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[Aby]

What happened to Sting4S? (Sorry if I got his name wrong.)

Maybe he got bored of whining.

[Potato_Smuggler]

 

What happened to Sting4S? (Sorry if I got his name wrong.)

Maybe he got bored of whining.No way, that's his favorite thing to do.

[trip]

 

 

What happened to Sting4S? (Sorry if I got his name wrong.)

Maybe he got bored of whining.

No way, that's his favorite thing to do.I recall seeing a post from him stating that this place isn't what he thought and people are mean -signing off for good. Something to that effect.

[Potato_Smuggler]

 

 

 

What happened to Sting4S? (Sorry if I got his name wrong.)

Maybe he got bored of whining.

No way, that's his favorite thing to do.I recall seeing a post from him stating that this place isn't what he thought and people are mean -signing off for good. Something to that effect.Yeah, it's his about me page.

[trip]

 

 

 

 

What happened to Sting4S? (Sorry if I got his name wrong.)

Maybe he got bored of whining.

No way, that's his favorite thing to do.

I recall seeing a post from him stating that this place isn't what he thought and people are mean -signing off for good. Something to that effect.Yeah, it's his about me page.'Hope he's got the balls to just return with his regular account and not do that thing where people say they leave and then return with a new account. Not too many people fully leave here (on their own)

[GTA_stu]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For anyone who's read George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four:

 

 

Do you think Winston was executed? I mean, at the end of the novel we are told that his spirit is now completely broken, he now loves Big Brother. Now, if we take into account what O'Brien says during Winston's torture sessions, the Party always converts thought criminals, so that their rebellion and individuality are eliminated (that way they won't turn into martyrs), and then they are physically executed. Anyway, there is also information to suggest Winston's life was spared... What do you think happened to him?

 

That's a possibility I had not thought of myself. It has a bit of an ambiguous ending to keep us guessing. When you say it, it does make sense that

he was killed shortly after. And like said on the page before, he was already "dead".

 

 

I can see it happening both ways, since

 

at the end he was just a shell of his former self. Great move on Orwells part to keep us guessing

 

 

In my opinion,

 

Winston, at the end of the book, was alive. His spirit, on the other hand, had been killed while he watched the stuff on TV. He got converted. And as he "died", the conversion was finished. And he probably was killed after that for realsies.

 

I might misremember some details, but I've given my book to a friend, so I can't quickly re-read the end. Love the book, though.

 

So we can all agree then,

Winston was dead regardless; both figuratively and possibly literally.

 

 

Personally I think

 

Winston doesn't get killed. I think it's more disturbing to think he lives on, being completely broken and brainwashed. I think it's a more powerful dystopian thought, that Winston would end up like that, than for them to just kill him.

 

 

But why

would Winston be the exception, the one that they didn't kill?

 

 

Yeah,

 

Winston is NOT an exception. The same way most people who read 1984 probably thought that Winston and the girl (can't remember the name) won't get caught in their room, they'll end up doing something and so on, but then the book punches you in the face and captures, and tortures them. Why would Winston stay alive at the end then? (or shortly after the end)

 

 

 

Well

 

 

It's been a long time since I've read it and my memory of the book isn't perfect, but do they actually kill literally every person who committs thought crime like Winston? I don't remember it saying that. And when O'Brien interrogates Winston he is quite ambiguous about his fate.

 

Also, and correct me if I'm wrong because my memory is particularly not great about this part, but doesn't Winston at the end see a famous dissident/criminal in the cafe? Throughout the book they mention some famous "plotters" who are widely known, and Winston sees one of them doesn't he? (I could just be getting it confused for something else) but if he does see them, then that demonstrates they don't kill everyone or even some of the most famous enemies of the state.

 

Maybe they execute every "person" as in they completely destroy people and their minds, rendering them drones of the party. But they still have use for the body. Like I said I think that is a more powerful idea and message, because that sort of complete and total control over someone is much more sinister and scary.

 

Edited February 1, 2015 by stu

[Alexander]

How would you justify the use of lethal force by the national guard/police against protests, and in which scenario would it be ok?

I mean, even if it is used as a last resource, wouldn't this create more problems that the ones that might solve?

[mr quick]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For anyone who's read George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four:

 

 

Do you think Winston was executed? I mean, at the end of the novel we are told that his spirit is now completely broken, he now loves Big Brother. Now, if we take into account what O'Brien says during Winston's torture sessions, the Party always converts thought criminals, so that their rebellion and individuality are eliminated (that way they won't turn into martyrs), and then they are physically executed. Anyway, there is also information to suggest Winston's life was spared... What do you think happened to him?

 

That's a possibility I had not thought of myself. It has a bit of an ambiguous ending to keep us guessing. When you say it, it does make sense that

he was killed shortly after. And like said on the page before, he was already "dead".

 

 

I can see it happening both ways, since

 

at the end he was just a shell of his former self. Great move on Orwells part to keep us guessing

 

 

In my opinion,

 

Winston, at the end of the book, was alive. His spirit, on the other hand, had been killed while he watched the stuff on TV. He got converted. And as he "died", the conversion was finished. And he probably was killed after that for realsies.

 

I might misremember some details, but I've given my book to a friend, so I can't quickly re-read the end. Love the book, though.

 

So we can all agree then,

Winston was dead regardless; both figuratively and possibly literally.

 

 

Personally I think

 

Winston doesn't get killed. I think it's more disturbing to think he lives on, being completely broken and brainwashed. I think it's a more powerful dystopian thought, that Winston would end up like that, than for them to just kill him.

 

 

But why

would Winston be the exception, the one that they didn't kill?

 

 

Yeah,

 

Winston is NOT an exception. The same way most people who read 1984 probably thought that Winston and the girl (can't remember the name) won't get caught in their room, they'll end up doing something and so on, but then the book punches you in the face and captures, and tortures them. Why would Winston stay alive at the end then? (or shortly after the end)

 

 

 

Well

 

 

It's been a long time since I've read it and my memory of the book isn't perfect, but do they actually kill literally every person who committs thought crime like Winston? I don't remember it saying that. And when O'Brien interrogates Winston he is quite ambiguous about his fate.

 

Also, and correct me if I'm wrong because my memory is particularly not great about this part, but doesn't Winston at the end see a famous dissident/criminal in the cafe? Throughout the book they mention some famous "plotters" who are widely known, and Winston sees one of them doesn't he? (I could just be getting it confused for something else) but if he does see them, then that demonstrates they don't kill everyone or even some of the most famous enemies of the state.

 

Maybe they execute every "person" as in they completely destroy people and their minds, rendering them drones of the party. But they still have use for the body. Like I said I think that is a more powerful idea and message, because that sort of complete and total control over someone is much more sinister and scary.

 

 

That is a very good theory. I think the way they

"kill off" Winston's person without him actually being dead

may be metaphoric and a warning of totalitarianism.

[Spaghetti Cat]

Well if said protesters are engaged in violence against the Guard members. Or if Guard was sent in to protect property from damage, say a nuclear power plant for example, and protesters overrun the barricades or fences. But these would be extreme circumstances. National Guard is only called out in times of emergency (like Katrina) or massive riots (like Rodney King Riots in LA). Usually there is a declared State of Emergency and Guard is activated. Most other times it would be state/local police. Not sure where you are going with the question, so I hope that helps

[epoxi]

I dunno, the way I understood it was

 

 

You guys are just doing this because you love the freaking quote train.

 

[Potato_Smuggler]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For anyone who's read George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four:

 

 

Do you think Winston was executed? I mean, at the end of the novel we are told that his spirit is now completely broken, he now loves Big Brother. Now, if we take into account what O'Brien says during Winston's torture sessions, the Party always converts thought criminals, so that their rebellion and individuality are eliminated (that way they won't turn into martyrs), and then they are physically executed. Anyway, there is also information to suggest Winston's life was spared... What do you think happened to him?

 

That's a possibility I had not thought of myself. It has a bit of an ambiguous ending to keep us guessing. When you say it, it does make sense that

he was killed shortly after. And like said on the page before, he was already "dead".

 

 

I can see it happening both ways, since

 

at the end he was just a shell of his former self. Great move on Orwells part to keep us guessing

 

 

In my opinion,

 

Winston, at the end of the book, was alive. His spirit, on the other hand, had been killed while he watched the stuff on TV. He got converted. And as he "died", the conversion was finished. And he probably was killed after that for realsies.

 

I might misremember some details, but I've given my book to a friend, so I can't quickly re-read the end. Love the book, though.

 

So we can all agree then,

Winston was dead regardless; both figuratively and possibly literally.

 

 

Personally I think

 

Winston doesn't get killed. I think it's more disturbing to think he lives on, being completely broken and brainwashed. I think it's a more powerful dystopian thought, that Winston would end up like that, than for them to just kill him.

 

 

But why

would Winston be the exception, the one that they didn't kill?

 

 

Yeah,

 

Winston is NOT an exception. The same way most people who read 1984 probably thought that Winston and the girl (can't remember the name) won't get caught in their room, they'll end up doing something and so on, but then the book punches you in the face and captures, and tortures them. Why would Winston stay alive at the end then? (or shortly after the end)

 

 

Well

 

 

It's been a long time since I've read it and my memory of the book isn't perfect, but do they actually kill literally every person who committs thought crime like Winston? I don't remember it saying that. And when O'Brien interrogates Winston he is quite ambiguous about his fate.

 

Also, and correct me if I'm wrong because my memory is particularly not great about this part, but doesn't Winston at the end see a famous dissident/criminal in the cafe? Throughout the book they mention some famous "plotters" who are widely known, and Winston sees one of them doesn't he? (I could just be getting it confused for something else) but if he does see them, then that demonstrates they don't kill everyone or even some of the most famous enemies of the state.

 

Maybe they execute every "person" as in they completely destroy people and their minds, rendering them drones of the party. But they still have use for the body. Like I said I think that is a more powerful idea and message, because that sort of complete and total control over someone is much more sinister and scary.

 

 

That is a very good theory. I think the way they

"kill off" Winston's person without him actually being dead

may be metaphoric and a warning of totalitarianism.

a good theory indeed, especially since

I have No idea what you're talking about

 

[LightningLord]

-snip-

Edited February 1, 2015 by LightningLord411

[mr quick]

I dunno, the way I understood it was

 

 

You guys are just doing this because you love the freaking quote train.

 

[Fonz]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For anyone who's read George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four:

 

 

Do you think Winston was executed? I mean, at the end of the novel we are told that his spirit is now completely broken, he now loves Big Brother. Now, if we take into account what O'Brien says during Winston's torture sessions, the Party always converts thought criminals, so that their rebellion and individuality are eliminated (that way they won't turn into martyrs), and then they are physically executed. Anyway, there is also information to suggest Winston's life was spared... What do you think happened to him?

 

That's a possibility I had not thought of myself. It has a bit of an ambiguous ending to keep us guessing. When you say it, it does make sense that

he was killed shortly after. And like said on the page before, he was already "dead".

 

 

I can see it happening both ways, since

 

at the end he was just a shell of his former self. Great move on Orwells part to keep us guessing

 

 

In my opinion,

 

Winston, at the end of the book, was alive. His spirit, on the other hand, had been killed while he watched the stuff on TV. He got converted. And as he "died", the conversion was finished. And he probably was killed after that for realsies.

 

I might misremember some details, but I've given my book to a friend, so I can't quickly re-read the end. Love the book, though.

 

So we can all agree then,

Winston was dead regardless; both figuratively and possibly literally.

 

 

Personally I think

 

Winston doesn't get killed. I think it's more disturbing to think he lives on, being completely broken and brainwashed. I think it's a more powerful dystopian thought, that Winston would end up like that, than for them to just kill him.

 

 

But why

would Winston be the exception, the one that they didn't kill?

 

 

Yeah,

 

Winston is NOT an exception. The same way most people who read 1984 probably thought that Winston and the girl (can't remember the name) won't get caught in their room, they'll end up doing something and so on, but then the book punches you in the face and captures, and tortures them. Why would Winston stay alive at the end then? (or shortly after the end)

 

 

 

Well

 

 

It's been a long time since I've read it and my memory of the book isn't perfect, but do they actually kill literally every person who committs thought crime like Winston? I don't remember it saying that. And when O'Brien interrogates Winston he is quite ambiguous about his fate.

 

Also, and correct me if I'm wrong because my memory is particularly not great about this part, but doesn't Winston at the end see a famous dissident/criminal in the cafe? Throughout the book they mention some famous "plotters" who are widely known, and Winston sees one of them doesn't he? (I could just be getting it confused for something else) but if he does see them, then that demonstrates they don't kill everyone or even some of the most famous enemies of the state.

 

Maybe they execute every "person" as in they completely destroy people and their minds, rendering them drones of the party. But they still have use for the body. Like I said I think that is a more powerful idea and message, because that sort of complete and total control over someone is much more sinister and scary.

 

 

That is a very good theory. I think the way they

"kill off" Winston's person without him actually being dead

may be metaphoric and a warning of totalitarianism.

 

Yep,

 

Orwell was such a visionary and so far ahead of his time, it's unreal. I read the other day that he based the idea of the Brotherhood (since it was a fake movement designed to lure real thought criminals out) on the Trust Operation, which was a fake anti-Bolshevik movement designed to aid the OGPU in finding intellectual enemies of the party.

 

[Potato_Smuggler]

accidental post

Edited February 1, 2015 by Potato_Smuggler

[Alexander]

Well if said protesters are engaged in violence against the Guard members. Or if Guard was sent in to protect property from damage, say a nuclear power plant for example, and protesters overrun the barricades or fences. But these would be extreme circumstances. National Guard is only called out in times of emergency (like Katrina) or massive riots (like Rodney King Riots in LA). Usually there is a declared State of Emergency and Guard is activated. Most other times it would be state/local police. Not sure where you are going with the question, so I hope that helps

No special reason, just wondering how it works in other countries, see what can be considered "normal" and what not.

[Potato_Smuggler]

Do agnostic fish not believe in Cod?

[PhillBellic]

Do agnostic fish not believe in Cod?

I don't know. If you find an answer, you can let minnow.

[Potato_Smuggler]

 

 

Do agnostic fish not believe in Cod?

I don't know. If you find an answer, you can let minnow.Sorry, I didn't hear you. I'm hard of herring.

[theadmiral]

Do agnostic fish not believe in Cod?

Any fin is possible.

[PhillBellic]

 

 

Do agnostic fish not believe in Cod?

I don't know. If you find an answer, you can let minnow.

Sorry, I didn't hear you. I'm hard of herring.

 

 

 

 

Do agnostic fish not believe in Cod?

Any fin is possible.

 

I smell something fishy here.

[Potato_Smuggler]

 

Do agnostic fish not believe in Cod?

 

Any fin is possible.What about not having a sole?

 

 

 

 

Do agnostic fish not believe in Cod?

I don't know. If you find an answer, you can let minnow.

Sorry, I didn't hear you. I'm hard of herring.

 

 

 

 

Do agnostic fish not believe in Cod?

Any fin is possible.

 

I smell something fishy here. We're having a halibut time, though. Don't need to be a brain sturgeon to figure that out. Edited February 1, 2015 by Potato_Smuggler

[Fonz]

I knew there would be a wave of puns. And lo and behold, water we have here?

 

 

 

Do agnostic fish not believe in Cod?

Any fin is possible.

What about not having a sole?

 

Whale, whale, whale, that's an interesting thought.

Edited February 1, 2015 by Black_MiD

[Potato_Smuggler]

Fish puns are a load of pollacks

[K^2]

How would you justify the use of lethal force by the national guard/police against protests, and in which scenario would it be ok?

I mean, even if it is used as a last resource, wouldn't this create more problems that the ones that might solve?

 

It tends to work out in favor of protesters in the long term almost every time. It shows that there are no lines that government isn't willing to cross. But as pointed out above, there can be legitimate reasons. They just tend to be pretty exceptional.

 

 

[PhillBellic]

Fish puns are a load of pollacks

What do you have against those of Polish ancestry, you pollock!

 

 

 

 

 

[Fonz]

you pollock!

[theadmiral]

Can anyone explain this?

 

[Potato_Smuggler]

Can anyone explain this?

 

A combine is a type of farm vehicle that uses a lot of fuel. so, the scumbag borrowed one and returned it with an empty tank