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mustafa the king

Why rockstar cut curtly novy darkel

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mustafa the king

I see those characters don't need to cut 

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Evil empire

Darkel was probably removed because of the 11th september 2001 attacks.

 

None knows about Novy.

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stef_92
11 hours ago, mustafa the king said:

I see those characters don't need to cut 

Explain how do you think they don't need to be cut since there's barely any information about Darkel and no information about Curtly and Novy?

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TEMPL4R

Curtly and Novy? Never heard of them, Darkel is cool as he's leader of hopo gang and was suppose to be a psychopath blood-thirsty, shame they cut him for some reason.

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Helegad
Posted (edited)
15 hours ago, Evil empire said:

Darkel was probably removed because of the 11th september 2001 attacks.

 

None knows about Novy.

Nope, Darkel was removed because he was "odd" and the devs ended up trimming too many of his missions to justify his continued inclusion in the game.

 

Novy is DJ Tom Novy. His track Back To The Streets was used in a trailer. His character model clearly indicates a cut cameo of some description, my guess is a scrapped cheat, or used as a placeholder for unfinished characters.

 

There's no info about Curtly sadly. Probably a minor character in a cutscene that was cut.

Edited by Helegad

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Blaze

It's funny seeing how misinformation spreads so easily, ie darkel being the homeless terrorist communist sociopathic serial killer commanding homeless goons from the tunnel whilst plotting to fly planes into Donald Love's building.

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Helegad

That's an ollllld rumour. Like one of the first. SA-Bigfoot bullsh*t type.

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Ma-mothers-Ma-Sister

They was cut and turned into shark cards rockstar saw the future 

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universetwisters

Who's Curtly Novy Darkel?

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stef_92
Posted (edited)

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And these rumors had been spreading back in the day when fake news wasn't even a thing :D

Edited by stef_92

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Crossbones
Posted (edited)

Who the f*ck are they ? Never heard of them. 

 

Not sure about Curtly and Novy, but after reading about Darkel on Wikia, he would have been interesting character if he was in the game. 

Edited by Crossbones

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Evil empire

I set some parts of my first message in yellow. The reason is not esthetics-related if you get what I mean.

 

I also think Darkel would have been an interesting character and I'm dubious about Rockstar's explanations.

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stef_92
23 hours ago, Crossbones said:

Who the f*ck are they ? Never heard of them. 

 

Not sure about Curtly and Novy, but after reading about Darkel on Wikia, he would have been interesting character if he was in the game. 

Curtly and Darkel appear on the credits at the end of the game (the part with the voice actors list). Novy was just found in the game files because he has a texture and a model.

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ClaudeIzABadAzz

Well, blowing up a school bus full of children wouldn't fly very well with parents, ya see.

 

As for Curtly and Novy, who knows.

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stef_92
33 minutes ago, ClaudeIzABadAzz said:

Well, blowing up a school bus full of children wouldn't fly very well with parents, ya see.

 

As for Curtly and Novy, who knows.

We already discussed that in many topics - the thing with the school bus is a rumour which rockstar themselves debunked. This mission never existed

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TEMPL4R
11 hours ago, stef_92 said:

We already discussed that in many topics - the thing with the school bus is a rumour which rockstar themselves debunked. This mission never existed

And also there's no kids in GTA.

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stef_92
7 hours ago, TEMPL4R said:

And also there's no kids in GTA.

Who said that there were kids in GTA?

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TEMPL4R
4 hours ago, stef_92 said:

Who said that there were kids in GTA?

No I said it because of reason why this mission (blowing up school bus) never existed.

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Evil empire
Posted (edited)

Even if there aren't children in GTA 3's files except if I'm wrong nothing prevents adding kids during a specific mission, like these "perverts" who only appear once you completed Big n' veiny.

 

The fact there aren't children in the games files doesn't mean Rockstar never planned to create a mission where you blow a school bus. Rockstar maybe removed the files like for the buskers.

 

All doubt is allowed about Darkel's set of missions, nothing proves the rumors surrounding him to be true or false.

Edited by Evil empire

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Helegad

Killing children in a game like Grand Theft Auto crosses multiple lines, both tonally and morally (depending on how sick you are). What sort of pleasure should be gained from killing children if gaming is primarily for fun? Fallout and Fallout 2 allows you to kill children but there are severe consequences for doing so, but in considering the game's tone the ability to do so fits very well. A sequence in Prey (2006) shows the pretty disturbing, graphic deaths of a couple of children, but it was totally uninteractive and really drove home the horror of what the aliens were doing to humans, therefore it was still appropriate without crossing reasonable lines.

 

Rockstar has always defended the level of violence in GTA by reasoning that the game is only as violent as you are, and I find it extremely difficult to believe that they would ever have made you kill a heap of children if you wanted to finish the game. It just doesn't fit with their MO.

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