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Lennart -

GTA SA Special Vehicle Guide [2018]

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rrtyui :c

Really nice guide man,keep it up!

 

If you need help you can call me,I know much about vehicles in SA.

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SuperSisley
On 6/9/2018 at 4:57 AM, Ghost Pulaski said:

In some cases, such as after End of the Line or Reuniting the Families, there are no regular phone calls available.

Since Breaking the Bank at Caligula's can be finished after End of the Line, It is possible to have a phone call from Salvatore Leone repeatedly.

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OrionSR

As a general rule, once a call has been received a flag is set that prevents them from calling again about the same thing. Also, once all the calls in a group have been answered, the call thread shuts itself down. I'm not sure about Caligula's though. There's a random call thread that's always running and Salvatore might be in that group. Catalina is; I forget who else. Anyway, if you don't mind manipulating your global variables with SASE 1.00 or other tools,  then you can probably trigger one of her calls any time after the appropriate conditions have been met.

 

I'm sure I saw someone post a link to details of the phone calls but now I can't find it.

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OrionSR

Yeah, that's the reference I remember. So anything in the MOB_RAN thread could probably be re-triggered by undoing it's call taken flag. All the other threads will end with the strand. I'm not exactly sure when - probably after the last call is taken. There are some risks to messing up the game flow if some of these variables are adjusted inappropriately before EoL.  IIRC, when I looked at this before it seemed like the Catalina calls were easiest to manipulate. I seem to remember some criticism of her calls though. And... was there something odd about Toreno's purchase the airstrip calls?

 

So it looks like I've got SA on Xbone now. Not sure how that happened - free with gold maybe? How much testing has been done on Xbone?

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rrtyui :c
13 hours ago, SuperSisley said:

Since Breaking the Bank at Caligula's can be finished after End of the Line, It is possible to have a phone call from Salvatore Leone repeatedly.

Not to mention you can keep the AYGTSF call even after 100% like I did.

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toomuchinvigilation
2 hours ago, OrionSR said:

IIRC, when I looked at this before it seemed like the Catalina calls were easiest to manipulate. I seem to remember some criticism of her calls though. And... was there something odd about Toreno's purchase the airstrip calls?

Yeah, these calls are low priority calls, so the phone will ring once every minute instead of once every 15/20 seconds. Also, they have slightly more delay, so using Quarry or Bike School setup could be problematic.

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Ghost Pulaski

Yeah, you can also keep the call for Vertical Bird, if you'd like to.

 

Anyways, has anyone here attempted the UT/UC/UC2 conversion from Mountain Cloud Boys? On the Mobile version it's all straight forward, but on the PC version weird stuff happens. I can't leave the Sentinel, etc.

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Lennart -

Special thanks to Rhans who recorded all this hassle, Patrick and coin who helped with lots of suggestions.
With a second suicide, this could be about half an hour faster if I recall correctly as CJ should spawn at the Fort Carson hospital near the ranch. It might be interesting to note that players that have also tested this have experienced mission skips, however, nothing severe has happened as after a reload, everything went down normal. 

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toomuchinvigilation

Great discoveries! That RC Goblin looks like a real pain to collect, though.

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rrtyui :c
17 hours ago, toomuchinvigilation said:

Great discoveries! That RC Goblin looks like a real pain to collect, though.

It's really not,it's just time consuming. I obtained it first try with no pain at all and I hope you'll do aswell!

-coin

 

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ChasingCoyote

this question is for collectors of proofed cars in San Andreas.. I've managed to shoot the drivers and store the waltons in Verdant Meadows garage, but how to keep the proofings in vehicles? failing mission either by suicide or killing Paul or Maccy loses thte proofings.is it possible to keep the proofings ini these vehicles after the mission? 

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Ghost Pulaski

Great discoveries! I'll add them in once I get to them, but (for now) I am quite busy so not much will be added. In about 2 weeks I will have some spare time and I should be close to finishing the guide in mid July.

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OrionSR
3 hours ago, ChasingCoyote said:

I've managed to shoot the drivers and store the waltons in Verdant Meadows garage, but how to keep the proofings in vehicles?

If you are talking about the waltons from Don Peyote; you can't keep the proofing because there are none. These vehicles are protected by an "apply damage rules" code - something that can't be saved.

Spoiler
0674: set_car_model #WALTON numberplate "__TIM___" 
00A5: [email protected] = create_car #WALTON at -50.0 2358.0 24.0 
020A: set_car [email protected] door_status_to 3 
03F5: set_car [email protected] apply_damage_rules 0 
0175: set_car [email protected] Z_angle_to 188.0 
0519: set_car [email protected] locked 1 
0674: set_car_model #WALTON numberplate "_TAMMY__" 
00A5: [email protected] = create_car #WALTON at -46.0 2355.0 24.0 
020A: set_car [email protected] door_status_to 3 
0175: set_car [email protected] Z_angle_to 188.0 
0519: set_car [email protected] locked 1 
03F5: set_car [email protected] apply_damage_rules 0 

 

 

Check this post for a list of all vehicles with "immunity" flags. These are the only immunities that can saved in a garage

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rrtyui :c
14 hours ago, ChasingCoyote said:

this question is for collectors of proofed cars in San Andreas.. I've managed to shoot the drivers and store the waltons in Verdant Meadows garage, but how to keep the proofings in vehicles? failing mission either by suicide or killing Paul or Maccy loses thte proofings.is it possible to keep the proofings ini these vehicles after the mission? 

Waltons from Don Peyote possess no proofings.

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rhans

Be careful so what happened at 51:43 doesnt happen to you as well, it really got me by surprise even while having almost full health and armor. But anyway, at least this video should help player who want to know how the method works:

1. Start Trucking with OM0 and get a mission that tells you to  be quick
2. Get a mod menu from the Transfender shop in SF. Use whatever method you prefer for that
3. Setup the gym method in SF gym sso you can  teleport yourself there
4. While having a transfender mod menu go go to the airport to buy a flight, but while in the flight selection screen wait for your phone to ring and hold the call, then buy the flight to LV. Unlike do usual method, this time instead of failing a mission during it to break the cutscene and allow cj to move, this time we will accept the gym teleport. Accept the flight and wait NO MORE and NO  LESS than 2 seconds to accept the gym teleport. If you do too early or too late it will not work
5. If it worked, you should be able to exit the plane and go to Zero running and accelerating vehicles (no need to keep jumping or reversing cars). Go to zero while holding the call and careful not to let your mod menu get closed
6. Start NMA and close your mod menu by pressing your exit vehicle button a single time, otherwise cj will leave his Mountain bike while still in the interior world, and you wont be able to get an exterior view anymore unless by death
7. Jump/Punch all the way to Torenos Ranch and start VM
8.  Unlike the suicide method, doing this method your minimap with will be all screwed, so go to LV and start either Kickstart or Dirt Track to fix your minimap. Now use your minimap to determine where the RC Goblin is. When close to the Goblin position, hold LSHIFT for many minutes (strangely the Goblin at this point should have control somewhat similar to a jetpack) until the Goblin descends to ground level. Guide the Goblin to a Garage and exit the garage while the Goblin is inside there, and then go save your game. Check the Goblin and it should be there saved
9. Make sure the Goblin never gets too close to you or its INSTA DEATH

Also, pay attention to the part at 23:08, when accepting the flight, dont immediatly accept the teleport to gym, but don`t take too long either. You need to accept before the screen changes the viewing angle, and the teleport to the fighting ring should happen after the change of angle.

 

Edit: I just realized something: All I did from 17:45 to 22:40 on the video can be skipped. Valet + GF call is not needed and can be skipped. Just go to the flight ticket booth screen and wait for your phone to ring, then hold your call. Accept then flight and just vefore the screen changes accept the gym fight. Under normal circunstances you would be teleported to the gym, but you would be unable to exit the gym while holding a call. Since you are not teleported, the gym mission will automatically be cancelled., and you will get back OM0, while still holding the call that ringed while you were on the ticket machine buying the flight.

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Bometer fan

I tried this new UT UC conversion method, it really is great! Much faster and easier than the previous airport method if you are playing on PC or PS2! But does it work on all 3 gyms? So far I have only been able to do it using the LV one (which is already good enough for me, I am just wondering if others work).

 

Also, what happened on Rhans` video it was interesting, he was not teleported to the gym, and instead gained movement to exit the plane even though he had mod menu activated.

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rrtyui :c
3 hours ago, Bometer fan said:

I tried this new UT UC conversion method, it really is great! Much faster and easier than the previous airport method if you are playing on PC or PS2! But does it work on all 3 gyms? So far I have only been able to do it using the LV one (which is already good enough for me, I am just wondering if others work).

It works for all gyms,btw the more consistent method of not activating the second instance of Gym is to hold W when you enter the mini marker.

 

3 hours ago, Bometer fan said:

 

Also, what happened on Rhans` video it was interesting, he was not teleported to the gym, and instead gained movement to exit the plane even though he had mod menu activated.

Maybe the flight stopped the teleport somehow?

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Ghost Pulaski
4 hours ago, rrtyui :c said:

It works for all gyms,

How exactly do I do it with Los Santos? Every time I try it, my vehicle gets teleported into the gym.

 

Also, this method MAY work on all versions of the game, if you manage to fail something like Trucking while going in the marker. (This is just a theory, but worth a try). This means the UT/UC/UC2 conversion would be available by the time you reach Cesar Vialpando on all platforms.

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OrionSR

Will someone eventually be describing what this is all about? My computer tends to crash when I watch videos so I tend to skip them unless there's enough of a description to pique my curiosity. It would be sad if these topics evolve into a serious of video posts and replies.

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rhans

The only requirement is having Denise as GF (Burning Desire completed), or if using no wanted level glitch you can do as soon as Drive-By and use another GF. Basically the same method as before, but a little easier. Instead of using the flight trick to teleport back to LS Airport, you just accept a coffee similar to when doing AP conversions (but this time while not being inside a vehicle), to get teleported to your GF house while having the food menu active. This is easier because it doesnt require for you to walk 'blindly" in LS, just the SF part. If doing before Green Sabre, you will probably get wanted level on the SF part. I didnt because I duped the mission Drive-By, which disables wanted level until you do either Just Business or Reuniting the Families. Duping it will only skip Sweet`s Girls, so its alright to do so (though it gives +7 respect while Drive-By gives +6, so you will end up getitng 1 less respect than you would), but if you want so, you can just fail Drive-By after duping it, but you will get +2 mission attempts and no mission passed.

4 hours ago, OrionSR said:

Will someone eventually be describing what this is all about? My computer tends to crash when I watch videos so I tend to skip them unless there's enough of a description to pique my curiosity. It would be sad if these topics evolve into a serious of video posts and replies.

Is this regarding the gym teleport, the RC Goblin or both? Sorry, I forgot to explain what was done in the RC Goblin video, I will edit the post above in a few minutes.

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Ghost Pulaski
10 hours ago, OrionSR said:

Will someone eventually be describing what this is all about? My computer tends to crash when I watch videos so I tend to skip them unless there's enough of a description to pique my curiosity. It would be sad if these topics evolve into a serious of video posts and replies.

 

The new UT/UC/UC2 conversion that does not involve the airports:

 

> hold om0 call

> go to a gym (LS tends to work the least)

> go into the marker

> hold W, then release the call

> head over to a mod shop and go inside

> press Y, then defeat the guy (or leave the area to prohibit CJ from learning the moves)

> leave the gym

 

> you have the modding menu

 

Using this you can also convert vehicles to AP, just buy any modifications while the girlfriend is inviting you for coffee, then leave the menu and drive the car into the water. Then accept the coffee and push the car out of the water like normal.

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OrionSR

Thank you, good people. Your comments are appreciated.

 

6 hours ago, rhans said:

Is this regarding the gym teleport, the RC Goblin or both?

Both, and more. For example, in Rhan's most recent video above, "How to get Hotring A/B before Green Sabre" is only included in the title of the video, and is not searchable within the forums. On the plus side, the video title is descriptive and the post includes all the relevant information on how this method varies from other strategies. Sometimes posts include just the video with a cryptic title, which is fine when the player is uncomfortable with English, and in the past I got the impression that some players didn't feel welcome in the topic but wanted to contribute anyway. Still, I feel this topic would function better if players included a descriptive title and an overview of the contents when posting videos.

 

* Damn. Got the wrong word quoted twice. Series, not serious. This is not a serious issue. My worse case scenario is that topics contain nothing but videos, and video responses, and contains no text at all. 

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Namaloom

Hello great discoveres, please find some easy method to obtain HS LR AP Cars, the existing one is impossible for me and probably for most of us.

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Ghost Pulaski
2 minutes ago, Namaloom said:

Hello great discoveres, please find some easy method to obtain HS LR AP Cars, the existing one is impossible for me and probably for most of us.

Unfortunately there is no other way, you just need to release the action button and skip the cutscene at the right time.

 

Anyways, I'm finally done with my job so I'll be able to continue updating the guide starting from today or tomorrow!

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toomuchinvigilation
2 hours ago, Ghost Pulaski said:

Unfortunately there is no other way, you just need to release the action button and skip the cutscene at the right time.

I didn't have to release the action button. I was mashing the "exit the vehicle" button and skipped the cutscene. It works about once every 7-10 tries.

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rhans

Steps 1 to 6 are the same as the RC Goblin method.

1. Start Trucking with OM0 and get a mission that tells you to  be quick

2. Get a mod menu from the Transfender shop in SF. Use whatever method you prefer for that

3. Setup the gym method in SF gym sso you can  teleport yourself there

4. While having a transfender mod menu go go to the airport to buy a flight, but while in the flight selection screen wait for your phone to ring and hold the call, then buy the flight to LV. Unlike do usual method, this time instead of failing a mission during it to break the cutscene and allow cj to move, this time we will accept the gym teleport. Accept the flight and wait NO MORE and NO  LESS than 2 seconds to accept the gym teleport. If you do too early or too late it will not work

5. If it worked, you should be able to exit the plane and go to Zero running and accelerating vehicles (no need to keep jumping or reversing cars). Go to zero while holding the call and careful not to let your mod menu get closed

6. Start NMA and close your mod menu by pressing your exit vehicle button a single time, otherwise cj will leave his Mountain bike while still in the interior world, and you wont be able to get an exterior view anymore unless by death

From step 7 onwards is a bit different from the Goblin method:

7- Go to Quarry and Start Quarry. After starting Quarry move around until the RC Goblin is destroyed, since you will be after the Bandit, not the Goblin.

8 - Go to the undrowning spot to walk underwater and proceed to the spot where the Bandit falls, close to Garver Bridge and skip the Quarry mission with the Middle Mouse Button.

9 - Shot the Bandit with sawn-off shotgun until you can reach a beach to exit underwater, then keep shooting until you reach a garage.

Edited by rhans

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Bometer fan

So from what I understand this is just a video showing/explaining what a person would need in order to obtain the RC Bandit, not a complete guide. Will you actually obtain it and record like you did for the Goblin? Even though by watching it I kind of understand how to obtain the Bandit, I would still prefer watching a video showing everything exactly how is it done in order to gauge its difficulty.

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