_kamikatsu_ 12 Posted May 31, 2018 Hey guys, I'm Kamikatsu from the GTA Wiki. I just opened the GTA Advance ROM (.gba file) with a text editor and I found several interesting things that were removed from the game. I found a line with a list of vehicles from GTA III and that would probably be in that game, such as the Mr. Whoopee, Perennial, Enforcer. Also I found a mysterious vehicle called "LAND ROVER" (I don't have any idea what kind of vehicle was that). At least five missions from Joey Leone have been removed from the game. "Bomb Squad," "Runaway Idaho," "Final Negotiations," "The Big Leagues," and "Driving Mr. Mawson." Two very early screenshot by Crawfish Interactive (GTAA formely dev.) shows two of this missions (Final Negotiations and another mission given by Joey). Apparently, a transvestite character named Mr. Mawson would be in the game. Also, Freddy (from the mission Show The Money) early name was "Jonnie S", and this mission was given by another character (possibly Joey or Mawson). See my full post at GTA Wiki for more information. Also, if anyone can found a way to see the game sprites, contact me 😃 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helegad 837 Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) Did you really have to watermark those images? Also, I'm not sure what parts of that Wiki page you edited, but there's a lot of guesswork in there, including crap about the barrel being used to crush people and... cars? And somehow it was confirmed that the list of cars was for an import/export side-mission? Nice finds, but this needs a lot of refinement. Edited June 1, 2018 by Helegad 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_kamikatsu_ 12 Posted June 1, 2018 I created the entire page. I didn't mentioned the barrel cuz everyone already know about that due to the GTASeriesVideos video. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeansowaty 5,893 Posted June 1, 2018 This would explain why there are absolutely no missions regarding the Triads (I think they only appear during The Big Score?). There's also an unused "L" mission sprite - leftover from GTA3 GBA port or possibly a comeback of Luigi? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_kamikatsu_ 12 Posted June 2, 2018 22 hours ago, Jeansowaty said: This would explain why there are absolutely no missions regarding the Triads (I think they only appear during The Big Score?). There's also an unused "L" mission sprite - leftover from GTA3 GBA port or possibly a comeback of Luigi? How I can see the game sprites? I neved found any way to open .gba sprites =/ On 6/1/2018 at 5:07 AM, Helegad said: Did you really have to watermark those images? Also, I'm not sure what parts of that Wiki page you edited, but there's a lot of guesswork in there, including crap about the barrel being used to crush people and... cars? And somehow it was confirmed that the list of cars was for an import/export side-mission? Nice finds, but this needs a lot of refinement. I created the entire page. I didn't mentioned the barrel here cuz everyone already know about that due to the GTASeriesVideos video. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeansowaty 5,893 Posted June 2, 2018 I'm not sure where I found it but I noticed it somewhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TakeshiSantos 72 Posted June 7, 2018 I bet that the "Runaway Idaho" mission from Joey would be a throwback to GTA III's Mike Lips' Last Lunch. Also, it looks like Mr. Mawson was regarded as an interesting character from Crawfish's GTA build, as he would appear in Digital Eclipse's final game. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helegad 837 Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) Would have been nice if they finished more missions. We only got like 40 in total, it was a bit short. I've been doing some research of my own inside the ROM: Cars First car list, unused in bold ...REEFER..MONSTER TRUCK...TAXI....BRIT....F1..BARRACKS....YAKUZA..STRETCH.RCBANDIT....PREDATOR....SENTINEL....PONY....PEREN...BANSHEE.ESPERANTO...DIABLO..COACH...ENFORCER....BOBCAT..BORGNINE....BLISTA..YARDIE..WONG....WHOOPY..TRASH...TANK....STALLION....RUMPO...MANANA..LINE RUNNER.LAND ROVER..INFERNO.IDAHO...FLATBED.BF INJECTION....BUS.BELLY...HOODS...SECURITY....POLICE CAR..PATRI...COLUM...CHEETAH. Second car list, emergency vehicles ....BARACKS OL..RHINO...FIRE TRUCK..AMBULANCE...FBI CAR.SWAT VAN....SQUAD CAR... The barrel ..OIL SLICK... Insane stunts! ....INSANE STUNT....OF..FOUND... Import/export ...IMPORT/EXPORT GARAGE....EMERGENCY CRANE. Army surplus .ARMY SURPLUS.... Radio .....MSX.LIPS 106....K-JAH. Unused missions Early mission list, notice the placement of Joey's missions before Jonnie's ....multi4..multi3..multi2..multi1..dummy_start.start_vinnie2...start_vinnie1...start_last5.start_last4.start_last3.start_last2.start_last1.start_mystery3..start_mystery2..start_mystery1..start_asuka7....start_asuka6....start_asuka5....start_asuka4....start_asuka3....start_asuka2....start_asuka1....start_cisco3....start_cisco2....start_cisco1....start_king4.start_king3.start_king2.start_king1.start_bartender7....start_bartender6....start_bartender5....start_bartender4....start_bartender3....start_bartender2....start_bartender1....start_joey5.start_joey4.start_joey3.start_joey2.start_joey1.wirethecar_carlo5...mission4a...mission3a...mission2a...mission1a... Business And Pleasure ....YOU'RE STARTING TO MAKE A NAME FOR YOURSELF!....MISSION FAILED!.TRY NOT TO KILL THE CLIENTS NEXT TIME!..HEY KID, I'VE GOT AN EMERGENCY..THERE ARE SOME IMPORTANT CLIENTS WHO WANT SOME ACTION AT LUIGI'S..THEY ORDERED A CAR TO PICK EM UP BUT I HAVE NO ONE TO DRIVE THEM..I NEED YOU TO GO AROUND THE CITY, PICK THEM UP AND TAKE THEM TO THE CLUB..BE CAREFUL THOUGH, NONE OF THAT FANCY DRIVIN, THESE GUYS ARE IMPORTANT, YOU UPSET THEM AND YOU UPSET ME CAPICHE?..'BUSINESS AND PLEASURE'. Bomb Squad .NICE ONE KID!...ONE OF OUR CONTACTS HAS BEEN CAUGHT BY THE COPS..WE NEED TO TAKE HIM OUT BEFORE HE SPILLS HIS BEANS ON OUR OPERATIONS..HE IS BEING TRANSFERRED FROM THE POLICE STATION TO A MORE SECURE PLACE, SO WE NEED TO ACT NOW..STEAL THE SQUAD CAR OUTSIDE THE STATION AND TAKE IT TO 8 BALL'S, THEN PUT IT BACK BE CAREFUL WHILE TAKING THE CAR, IF YOU ARE SPOTTET WE'RE SCREWED...'BOMB SQUAD'.... Runaway Idaho ....THANKS A LOT, YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB....SOME JOKER HAS STOLEN AN IDAHO FROM THE GARAGE,.IT BELONGS TO AN IMPORTANT ASSOCIATE OF OURS AND HE WANTS TO PICK IT UP IN ONE HOUR..I NEED YOU TO RUN THIS GUY OFF THE ROAD, AND GET THE CAR BACK HERE PRONTO..'RUNAWAY IDAHO'. Final Negotiations .GOOD JOB!...MISSION FAILED..YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO PICK THEM UP.. NOT KILL THEM STRAIGHT AWAY!....MISSION FAILED..A COUPLE OF FRIENDS OF THE POLICE HAVE BEEN TAKING BRIBES FROM JOEY FOR SOME INFO ON PATROLS..THEY'RE THREATENING TO TAKE HIM IN UNLESS HE DOUBLES THEIR PRICE..WE NEED TO END THIS DEAL, SO GET A CAR AND PICK THEM UP FROM JOEY'S..THEY'LL EXPECT TO BE TAKEN TO THE SUBWAY, BUT TAKE THEM SOMEWHERE QUIET AND SILENCE THEM..NO WITNESSES! WE CAN'T AFFOR THE HEAT ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY ARE SO FRIENDLY WITH THE COPS.0..'FINAL NEGOTIATIONS'.... Company Car ....WELL DONE KID!..MISSION FAILED!.THE CAR WAS DESTROYED...YOU DONE WELL KID, I SEE BIG THINGS FOR YOU HERE..DOWN TO BUSINESS, I HAD TO DUMP MY NEW CAR NEAR CHINATOWN TO LOSE THE COPS AND I'VE GOTSOME GEAR STASHED IN THE TRUNK, I NEED YOU TO GET IT BACK BEFORE THEY CHECK IT.IT'S LIKELY THEY'RE STAKING IT OUT, SO I YOU GET FOLLOWED HAVE THE CAR RESPRAYED AND BRING IT BACK HERE.....'COMPANY CAR'... The Big Leagues ...GOOD WORK! HERE'S YOUR SHARE....ONE OF OUR MEN, JONNIE S, HAS TAKEN A LARGE SUM OF OUR MONEY..HE THINKS HE CAN EXCHANGE THE CASH FOR HIS FREEDOM..MEET HIM UNDER CALLAHAN BRIDGE AND EXCHANGE THE CASH FOR A GUNSHOT IN HIS FACE..GET THE MONEY AND BRING IT BACK HERE..'THE BIG LEAGUES'... Driving Mr. Mawson ...OK, NOT THE BEST DRIVING BUT YOU MADE IT....DRIVE!! THE COPS ARE AFTER ME!..YOU JUST PUT MR MAVSON IN A BODY BAG.. MISSION FAILED!..WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING!? YOU AIN'T GETTING ANY CASH FOR THIS.. I'LL FIND MY OWN WAY!...OK FIRST THINGS FIRST, I WAS SUPPOSED TO PICK UP A CLIENT IN SAINT MARKS..HIS NAME IS MR MAWSON AND HE SHOULD BE AT THE SUBWAY, GET A CAR AND BRING HIM HERE..A WORD OF WARNING, HE HAS A SHORT TEMPER, SO WATCH YOUR MOUTH OR YOU COULD END UP WITH A CRACKED SKULL....'DRIVING MR. MAWSON'.... Possible debug options ...FLAKEY CHECK ON. ....YAKUZA NO LONGER ANGRY..HOODS NO LONGER ANGRY...DIABLOS NO LONGER ANGRY.CARTEL NO LONGER ANGRY..YARDIES NO LONGER ANGRY.TRIADS NO LONGER ANGRY..MAFIA NO LONGER ANGRY...YAKUZA NOW ANGRY....HOODS NOW ANGRY.DIABLOS NOW ANGRY...CARTEL NOW ANGRY....YARDIES NOW ANGRY...TRIADS NOW ANGRY....MAFIA NOW ANGRY.DISTANCE.... Possible multiplayer references .A BUTTON TO CONNECT.CONNECT CABLE...B BUTTON TO CANCEL..CONNECTING..MAXED OUT...FLAKEY CHECK ON. ..'SPECIAL DELIVERY'..'CAR JACK CRAZY'....'CITY CIRCUIT'..'LIBERTY CITY SURVIVOR'. ...LINK ERROR..HIGH....MEDIUM..LOW.OFF.ON..NO..YES.NULL....UNLIMITED...45 MINS.40 MINS.35 MINS.30 MINS.25 MINS.20 MINS.15 MINS.10 MINS.5 MINS..60..55..50..45..40..35..30..25..20..15..10..9...8...7...6...5...4...3...2...1...0...CIRC310.CIRC39..CIRC38..CIRC37..CIRC36..CIRC35..CIRC34..CIRC33..CIRC32..CIRC31..CIRC210.CIRC29..CIRC28..CIRC27..CIRC26..CIRC25..CIRC24..CIRC23..CIRC22..CIRC21..CIRC110.CIRC19..CIRC18..CIRC17..CIRC16..CIRC15..CIRC14..CIRC13..CIRC12..CIRC11..SHORESIDE...STAUNTON....PORTLAND.... ..PACKAGES....CARS....WEAPONS.LAPS....CIRCUIT.AI OPPONENTS....FRAG LIMIT..TIME LIMIT..AREA....SPECIAL DELIVERY....CAR JACK CRAZY..CITY CIRCUIT....LIBERTY CITY SURVIVOR... .MULTI PLAYER.... Unknown .NO SPECIAL HERE. . SAY HELLO TO MR PAGER ... ...PAINT CAR... Edited June 7, 2018 by Helegad 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeansowaty 5,893 Posted June 7, 2018 The gang hate respect thing is still kinda present in the game. If you anger gang members in some area they will be hostile to you all the time. However, it's not always the case. For example if you anger the Triads in Chinatown, those in the Red Light Districts won't be hostile. There's also a cheat that removes gang hostility. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_kamikatsu_ 12 Posted June 8, 2018 On 6/6/2018 at 10:20 PM, TakeshiSantos said: I bet that the "Runaway Idaho" mission from Joey would be a throwback to GTA III's Mike Lips' Last Lunch. Also, it looks like Mr. Mawson was regarded as an interesting character from Crawfish's GTA build, as he would appear in Digital Eclipse's final game. Nice theory... (Aliás... huehue br) On 6/7/2018 at 11:54 AM, Jeansowaty said: The gang hate respect thing is still kinda present in the game. If you anger gang members in some area they will be hostile to you all the time. However, it's not always the case. For example if you anger the Triads in Chinatown, those in the Red Light Districts won't be hostile. There's also a cheat that removes gang hostility. Yes, i know... But I think this respect feature thing would be like GTA 2 On 6/7/2018 at 6:25 AM, Helegad said: Would have been nice if they finished more missions. We only got like 40 in total, it was a bit short. I've been doing some research of my own inside the ROM: Cars First car list, unused in bold ...REEFER..MONSTER TRUCK...TAXI....BRIT....F1..BARRACKS....YAKUZA..STRETCH.RCBANDIT....PREDATOR....SENTINEL....PONY....PEREN...BANSHEE.ESPERANTO...DIABLO..COACH...ENFORCER....BOBCAT..BORGNINE....BLISTA..YARDIE..WONG....WHOOPY..TRASH...TANK....STALLION....RUMPO...MANANA..LINE RUNNER.LAND ROVER..INFERNO.IDAHO...FLATBED.BF INJECTION....BUS.BELLY...HOODS...SECURITY....POLICE CAR..PATRI...COLUM...CHEETAH. Second car list, emergency vehicles ....BARACKS OL..RHINO...FIRE TRUCK..AMBULANCE...FBI CAR.SWAT VAN....SQUAD CAR... The barrel ..OIL SLICK... Insane stunts! ....INSANE STUNT....OF..FOUND... Import/export ...IMPORT/EXPORT GARAGE....EMERGENCY CRANE. Army surplus .ARMY SURPLUS.... Radio .....MSX.LIPS 106....K-JAH. Unused missions Early mission list, notice the placement of Joey's missions before Jonnie's ....multi4..multi3..multi2..multi1..dummy_start.start_vinnie2...start_vinnie1...start_last5.start_last4.start_last3.start_last2.start_last1.start_mystery3..start_mystery2..start_mystery1..start_asuka7....start_asuka6....start_asuka5....start_asuka4....start_asuka3....start_asuka2....start_asuka1....start_cisco3....start_cisco2....start_cisco1....start_king4.start_king3.start_king2.start_king1.start_bartender7....start_bartender6....start_bartender5....start_bartender4....start_bartender3....start_bartender2....start_bartender1....start_joey5.start_joey4.start_joey3.start_joey2.start_joey1.wirethecar_carlo5...mission4a...mission3a...mission2a...mission1a... Business And Pleasure ....YOU'RE STARTING TO MAKE A NAME FOR YOURSELF!....MISSION FAILED!.TRY NOT TO KILL THE CLIENTS NEXT TIME!..HEY KID, I'VE GOT AN EMERGENCY..THERE ARE SOME IMPORTANT CLIENTS WHO WANT SOME ACTION AT LUIGI'S..THEY ORDERED A CAR TO PICK EM UP BUT I HAVE NO ONE TO DRIVE THEM..I NEED YOU TO GO AROUND THE CITY, PICK THEM UP AND TAKE THEM TO THE CLUB..BE CAREFUL THOUGH, NONE OF THAT FANCY DRIVIN, THESE GUYS ARE IMPORTANT, YOU UPSET THEM AND YOU UPSET ME CAPICHE?..'BUSINESS AND PLEASURE'. Bomb Squad .NICE ONE KID!...ONE OF OUR CONTACTS HAS BEEN CAUGHT BY THE COPS..WE NEED TO TAKE HIM OUT BEFORE HE SPILLS HIS BEANS ON OUR OPERATIONS..HE IS BEING TRANSFERRED FROM THE POLICE STATION TO A MORE SECURE PLACE, SO WE NEED TO ACT NOW..STEAL THE SQUAD CAR OUTSIDE THE STATION AND TAKE IT TO 8 BALL'S, THEN PUT IT BACK BE CAREFUL WHILE TAKING THE CAR, IF YOU ARE SPOTTET WE'RE SCREWED...'BOMB SQUAD'.... Runaway Idaho ....THANKS A LOT, YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB....SOME JOKER HAS STOLEN AN IDAHO FROM THE GARAGE,.IT BELONGS TO AN IMPORTANT ASSOCIATE OF OURS AND HE WANTS TO PICK IT UP IN ONE HOUR..I NEED YOU TO RUN THIS GUY OFF THE ROAD, AND GET THE CAR BACK HERE PRONTO..'RUNAWAY IDAHO'. Final Negotiations .GOOD JOB!...MISSION FAILED..YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO PICK THEM UP.. NOT KILL THEM STRAIGHT AWAY!....MISSION FAILED..A COUPLE OF FRIENDS OF THE POLICE HAVE BEEN TAKING BRIBES FROM JOEY FOR SOME INFO ON PATROLS..THEY'RE THREATENING TO TAKE HIM IN UNLESS HE DOUBLES THEIR PRICE..WE NEED TO END THIS DEAL, SO GET A CAR AND PICK THEM UP FROM JOEY'S..THEY'LL EXPECT TO BE TAKEN TO THE SUBWAY, BUT TAKE THEM SOMEWHERE QUIET AND SILENCE THEM..NO WITNESSES! WE CAN'T AFFOR THE HEAT ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY ARE SO FRIENDLY WITH THE COPS.0..'FINAL NEGOTIATIONS'.... Company Car ....WELL DONE KID!..MISSION FAILED!.THE CAR WAS DESTROYED...YOU DONE WELL KID, I SEE BIG THINGS FOR YOU HERE..DOWN TO BUSINESS, I HAD TO DUMP MY NEW CAR NEAR CHINATOWN TO LOSE THE COPS AND I'VE GOTSOME GEAR STASHED IN THE TRUNK, I NEED YOU TO GET IT BACK BEFORE THEY CHECK IT.IT'S LIKELY THEY'RE STAKING IT OUT, SO I YOU GET FOLLOWED HAVE THE CAR RESPRAYED AND BRING IT BACK HERE.....'COMPANY CAR'... The Big Leagues ...GOOD WORK! HERE'S YOUR SHARE....ONE OF OUR MEN, JONNIE S, HAS TAKEN A LARGE SUM OF OUR MONEY..HE THINKS HE CAN EXCHANGE THE CASH FOR HIS FREEDOM..MEET HIM UNDER CALLAHAN BRIDGE AND EXCHANGE THE CASH FOR A GUNSHOT IN HIS FACE..GET THE MONEY AND BRING IT BACK HERE..'THE BIG LEAGUES'... Driving Mr. Mawson ...OK, NOT THE BEST DRIVING BUT YOU MADE IT....DRIVE!! THE COPS ARE AFTER ME!..YOU JUST PUT MR MAVSON IN A BODY BAG.. MISSION FAILED!..WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING!? YOU AIN'T GETTING ANY CASH FOR THIS.. I'LL FIND MY OWN WAY!...OK FIRST THINGS FIRST, I WAS SUPPOSED TO PICK UP A CLIENT IN SAINT MARKS..HIS NAME IS MR MAWSON AND HE SHOULD BE AT THE SUBWAY, GET A CAR AND BRING HIM HERE..A WORD OF WARNING, HE HAS A SHORT TEMPER, SO WATCH YOUR MOUTH OR YOU COULD END UP WITH A CRACKED SKULL....'DRIVING MR. MAWSON'.... Possible debug options ...FLAKEY CHECK ON. ....YAKUZA NO LONGER ANGRY..HOODS NO LONGER ANGRY...DIABLOS NO LONGER ANGRY.CARTEL NO LONGER ANGRY..YARDIES NO LONGER ANGRY.TRIADS NO LONGER ANGRY..MAFIA NO LONGER ANGRY...YAKUZA NOW ANGRY....HOODS NOW ANGRY.DIABLOS NOW ANGRY...CARTEL NOW ANGRY....YARDIES NOW ANGRY...TRIADS NOW ANGRY....MAFIA NOW ANGRY.DISTANCE.... Possible multiplayer references .A BUTTON TO CONNECT.CONNECT CABLE...B BUTTON TO CANCEL..CONNECTING..MAXED OUT...FLAKEY CHECK ON. ..'SPECIAL DELIVERY'..'CAR JACK CRAZY'....'CITY CIRCUIT'..'LIBERTY CITY SURVIVOR'. ...LINK ERROR..HIGH....MEDIUM..LOW.OFF.ON..NO..YES.NULL....UNLIMITED...45 MINS.40 MINS.35 MINS.30 MINS.25 MINS.20 MINS.15 MINS.10 MINS.5 MINS..60..55..50..45..40..35..30..25..20..15..10..9...8...7...6...5...4...3...2...1...0...CIRC310.CIRC39..CIRC38..CIRC37..CIRC36..CIRC35..CIRC34..CIRC33..CIRC32..CIRC31..CIRC210.CIRC29..CIRC28..CIRC27..CIRC26..CIRC25..CIRC24..CIRC23..CIRC22..CIRC21..CIRC110.CIRC19..CIRC18..CIRC17..CIRC16..CIRC15..CIRC14..CIRC13..CIRC12..CIRC11..SHORESIDE...STAUNTON....PORTLAND.... ..PACKAGES....CARS....WEAPONS.LAPS....CIRCUIT.AI OPPONENTS....FRAG LIMIT..TIME LIMIT..AREA....SPECIAL DELIVERY....CAR JACK CRAZY..CITY CIRCUIT....LIBERTY CITY SURVIVOR... .MULTI PLAYER.... Unknown .NO SPECIAL HERE. . SAY HELLO TO MR PAGER ... ...PAINT CAR... Army Surplus? So, Phil's store was supposed to be in the game? I wonder what this "wirethecar_carlo5" mission was supposed to be... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helegad 837 Posted June 9, 2018 6 hours ago, thekamikatsu17 said: I wonder what this "wirethecar_carlo5" mission was supposed to be... Knowing GTA, somebody has pissed off this "Carlo" boss and he wants them taken out. So get his car, fit a bomb to it, and drop it back where you got it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
