Fallout 76

[Skyline_Mad]

I don't like seeing the teaser nearly two weeks before the full reveal only to find out from reliable sources that it's going to be multiplayer. I'd prefer it to have been revealed in full at E3 without the teaser, that way i won't be hyped for weeks only to be disappointed at E3. Sort of like what they did with Fallout shelter, it looked interesting when they revealed it, but no hype leading up to the announcement, so i wasn't disappointed. 

And I understand it's not a main release Fallout game and trying something new is sort of fine by me, but the teaser not really showing much and the many rumors going around are making me a little worried that it's not going to be a game for me (even though there isn't really anything in the teaser that suggests it has multiplayer) and i wouldn't want to miss a fallout, but guess i may have to if it means my immersion and almost therapeutic gaming being ruined by people tea bagging each other and getting in the way of doing things at my own pace. But to be honest a multiplayer survival game with base building and defending said bases from attacks actually fits in a Fallout game, we sort of already have that with Fallout 4, just without other players. I'd just prefer that they created a similar game that wasn't fallout, that way i'd be ok with passing on getting it. Or better yet, having said multiplayer mode separate from the man game so i can avoid it if needed (as long as they don't go the Metal Gear Solid 5 route, forcing the FOB stuff on you if you want new content and updates like the daily rewards). 

And about that Kotaku guy who leaked info; one minute he's saying it's multiplayer, the next he's saying he THINKS it's multiplayer, make up your mind is it multiplayer or not?. He has also been blacklisted by Bethesda so they could just be feeding him false info to make him less reputable when his leaks turn out to be false. Also why would Bethesda do that whole #saveplayerone thing if they were actively developing a multiplayer Fallout?

Then there's the whole "Creation engine can't handle multiple players", which unfortunately is wrong, i have heard just today that there is a Skyrim mod close to release that will allow 8 player multiplayer, so it is possible, and with enough developers working on it i doubt they would have too much trouble if they were sure that's the direction they wanted to go (as apposed to just messing around trying to get it to work, because they were curious)

Side note: people keep forgetting that Bethesda Game Studios have triple the staff now, so there's no real need to worry that we are getting 2 fallout games between Elder Scrolls games, they can handle more games at a time now, so i doubt TES6 is going to be delayed much because of Fallout 76.

Edited June 2, 2018 by Skyline_Mad

[APB]

 I'm not the biggest Fallout fan (TES is superior to me), but even then I'm a bit worried for the future. Bethesda said they wanted to test new ground with 2 new projects before TES 6, but I think they will end up testing wrong things with those games. With all these rumors and leaks about Fallout 76 I think the uproar will be massive, 10x larger than the Creation Club uproar. Funny how the leaked stuff about F76 goes against their #saveplayer1 campaign too. 

They better have something else that will save them this E3, because otherwise sh*t will go down. 

Edited June 2, 2018 by APB

[Matrelith]

 

 

New information from ''leaks'', whether it's reliable or not is up to you. Put it in a spoiler in case people don't want to read it.

If the information is legit, it sounds pretty cool.

Edited June 2, 2018 by Matrelith

[Fireman]

If Chris Avellone is in on it atleast we know a part of the writing will be solid.

This is completely in contrast to the other rumor of it being online, by the way.

[Matrelith]

The journalist from Kotaku who came with the initial leak has already adjusted his statement on /r/Fallout;

Hi. I'm Jason Schreier, from Kotaku. I had forgotten how... passionate the Fallout community can get. After I reported on Fallout 4's existence in 2013, people here first spent two years calling me a liar, and then when it was confirmed, they just yelled at me for "spoiling the surprise." But hey, I'm also a big fan of the series, and in fact may or may not have just started replaying Fallout 4 on my PC in the wake of this week's news.

I've seen a lot of rage and confusion (and denial) on this subreddit so I just wanted to chime in to say a couple of things. One is that, after publishing my story, I heard from a few other sources (in addition to the three mentioned in the article) corroborating that Fallout 76 is an online game. If you're really still in denial, I guess you can wait until June 10, but hey, don't say I didn't tell you.

The second thing is that I'm very optimistic about this game. The buzz I'm hearing (both first- and second-hand) is that it's really cool, interesting, and just as story-focused as any other Bethesda Game Studios game. It might have multiplayer and base-building, but hey, it's still a Fallout game. I don't want to drive hype for a game I haven't seen or played, but I also don't want people to be so closed-minded that they spend the next nine days freaking out every day on Reddit because this game isn't going to be like the last three.

I mean, how many of you remember when hardcore Fallout fans flipped a sh*t because Bethesda was making a first-person shooter?

I think that in retrospect I shouldn't have tweeted that anyone expecting a traditional single-player Fallout will be "very disappointed" -- really, I should have said that they'll be very surprised. I wanted (and still want) to make sure people's expectations are calibrated accordingly.

Short version: Yes, Fallout 76 is going to be a multiplayer RPG. No, that's not automatically a bad thing. Just like all of you, I'm stoked to see the game on June 10, and I'm optimistic that it's going to be really cool.

(PS - Special shoutout to those of you who AREN'T sending me nasty and antisemitic messages on Twitter!)

 

People immediately jumped to conclusions when the rumors appeared it will be an online game / a ''Rust clone'' / a Battle Royale game / a game taking place only in a Vault, but it seems like the game will be more nuanced than that. I'd say wait until Bethesda's E3 presentation before you complete write off the game as a failure.

Edited June 2, 2018 by Matrelith

[OurJud]

Something no ones mentioned so far, but that is very very important to me (it will actually influence my decision on purchasing the game) is whether or not we’ll  be given a HUD opacity slider like in 4, so that every aspect of the HUD / interface can be hidden if so desired.

Edited June 2, 2018 by OurJud

[Fireman]

The fact that it's online is always bad for a RPG.

[OurJud]

3 hours ago, Fireman said:

The fact that it's online is always bad for a RPG.

I’m pretty sure this isn’t a fact.

Unless I’ve missed an announcement somewhere.

[Uncle Sikee Atric]

3 hours ago, Fireman said:

The fact that it's online is always bad for a RPG.

 

Not true at all, but it does depend a lot on the community and playbase an Online RPG generates, plus how they use it themselves....

 

Altis Life with servers of around 100 players, do okay depending on how the Staff deal with them, but some additional rules and a bit of imagination do help improve the experience. 

 

Speculating is bad.  Let's wait on E3, then decide how 76 could pan out.

[D9fred95]

I'm kind of skeptical about if being a full on multiplayer game if only because AlChestBreach is also skeptical. F4's engine would need to be modified a decent bit for any proper multiplayer to happen, though he does state he doesn't know much about multiplayer programming. He does state that Co-op is an option though so it could be that.

 

Edited June 2, 2018 by D9fred95

[luisniko]

16 hours ago, Matrelith said:

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So from that leak, it sounds more like co-op-ability single player game this time. Meanwhile the other leaks say that it's a full-fledged online survival like Rust.

[Fireman]

13 hours ago, OurJud said:

I’m pretty sure this isn’t a fact.

Unless I’ve missed an announcement somewhere.

 

13 hours ago, Uncle Sikee Atric said:

 

Not true at all, but it does depend a lot on the community and playbase an Online RPG generates, plus how they use it themselves....

 

Altis Life with servers of around 100 players, do okay depending on how the Staff deal with them, but some additional rules and a bit of imagination do help improve the experience. 

 

Speculating is bad.  Let's wait on E3, then decide how 76 could pan out.

 

I agree that we don't know anything yet, so it is kind of pointless to discuss these things.  Yet there's nothing else to talk about :P.

I just don't want be forced to play with randoms on the same server.

Edited June 3, 2018 by Fireman

[Shadowfennekin]

Optional co-op is always good

 

Forced PvP is always bad, no matter what there will be people griefing, try harding, trolling, and whatever else those pathetic low lives do.

I just want a new SP experience

[Tchuck]

On 6/1/2018 at 7:53 PM, sivispacem said:

Anyone else hoping for a party-based 3rd person TBT/RTT using the F4 engine? A bit like the revived Wasteland series?

 

Been playing Divinity 2 with a party of mates every week, and this would be awesome with a Fallout\Wasteland setting. Turn-based, tactical, RPG, good writing. The possibilities are tasty.

[chronic lumbago]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/8oc7ja/west_virginia_radio_distress_signal_found_in/

Reddit found a West Virginia radio distress call in Fallout 4. My guess is it's been secretly added with the latest F4 CC update.

[Skyline_Mad]

I can see The Greenbrier playing a big role in the story of Fallout 76, and i have a few ideas around how the Enclave could be a part of it:

 

A video on youtube i saw recently explained (with fallout wiki entries) that as you know the enclave were mostly based at Mariposa Military Base, but there were also other groups of the Enclave scattered throughout the continent, meaning it's very possible that we could see an enclave group of some kind even if small in Fallout 76, and that it's likley that they will be based at the Greenbrier resort Bunker/Vault seen as in the real world said resort has a bunker designed to house up to 1000 government officials.

 

So i feel we could see a group of the enclave who have lost contact with Mariposa and are trying to find a way to reconnect with them (similar to BoS in Fo4 with Danse trying to contact the Prydwen), maybe they have a vertibird they are trying to get working again to fly out to the west coast. Bethesda could use this opportunity to retcon the X-01 power armor into the original fallout game's lore by having another prototype (like the Quantum X-01 from Nuka World) used by someone at the Greenbrier who takes it with them to Mariposa which leads the main group of enclave basing the Enclave Advanced Power armor off of the X-01 prototype. Although according to the wiki's the Advanced power armor the enclave used was developed over 100 years after Fallout 76's setting (maybe any schematics they have if any become corrupted or the armor itself get damaged enough to slow down reverse engineering).

 

Maybe they already have contacted them at some point after the war and were told to hold their position because it's not safe to travel long distances, then some time after the game ends they end up leaving (shown during end game slides) and finally arrive at Mariposa base years later with the X-01 armor, which they use to make the Enclave Power Armor.

 

Whether this group of the Enclave reconnects with Mariposa or not, we could also get a hint (or shown during ending slides) as to where the Enclave end up later in the timeline, It could be mentioned by someone at Greenbrier that they have radio transmissions on repeat indefinitely just in case someone else in the Enclave is close enough to receive the signal, no matter how far into the future. Then when the larger group of the Enclave travel across the country to get to DC (for the events of Fallout 3), they could pick up the signal from Greenbrier and absorb this smaller group into the larger Enclave ready for their battle against BoS at DC.

 

 

OR, The Greenbier could be the location of Vault 76 and YOU are what's left of the east coast Enclave; you were the son/daughter of a government official and spent most of your life in the vault but sometime before the vault opened you somehow end up in a coma brought on by some medical condition (maybe a head injury) and 5 years later (with the help of automated medical equipment to keep you alive) you wake up to find everyone gone (similar to 28 Days Later/The Walking Dead) thus starting Fallout 76.

[Craigsters]

Sense they played John Denver's  -Country Road song in the teaser trailer or a cover of it   and the TV type style looked like the late 60's early 70's TV model, I wonder if they'll play songs from the med sixtys and seventys?

 

like bread,the carpenters, the beatles, Jump into the Fire" by Harry Nilsson, they'll have to look for either cover tunes or pay royalties  or look for versions of songs not copyrighted?

 

Also are they trying to get into another era genre style look for the game like the 1970's?

 

Yes I know the 76 is the vault the game takes place in, the TV and song in the video teaser got me thinking they are trying for a new era genre style look

Edited June 5, 2018 by Craigsters

[Skyline_Mad]

As much as i would like to see more music variety from different eras i think it would ruin the whole fallout art style and lore, but it is weird that there is a song from the 70s, maybe it's only used as a teaser to the location the game is set in, seen as we only see inside the vault. Or it could just be that only a couple songs will be from the 70s, similar to how "The Wanderer" was 1 of 3 songs from the 60s in Fallout 4.

 

But when it comes to the tv, there are actually colour tvs in the fallout universe already, as far back as the black isle fallouts, i can't remember exactly when they were seen in the games, but they are there. I saw a video on youtube explaining how colour tvs are canon, just very rare, and that a control vault probably has better technology/luxuries (apart from the older model of pip boy) than other test vaults.

 

Edit: found the video on yt, around 2:14 into the clip

 

Edit 2: wow didn't realise that this new version of gtaforums automatically embeds youtube videos by only posting the link lol

Edited June 5, 2018 by Skyline_Mad

[Exkabewbikadid]

I'd like to believe that this will be a full FO game much like NV was, and will precede FO5. But a name like 'Fallout 76' doesn't have the strong back perk like 'New Vegas' to carry a full-fledged Fallout experience. Hopefully I'm dead wrong.

[Shadowfennekin]

I'd actually love it if we could join the Enclave this time

Assuming this is a SP game

[Quinn_flower]

that confrims it 76 is multi that part with all the other vault ppl passing buy the suit. 

 

76 4x bigger than fo4 more like 4x buggier

Edited June 10, 2018 by Quinn_flower

[Fireman]

DEFINITELY not as bad as expected. Looks like an actual "RPG" like Fallout 4. Not sure yet if it'll be online so there's that question remaining.

 

 

Edited June 10, 2018 by Fireman

[Ciaran]

Looks beautiful. Excited for the full reveal!

[Original Light]

On 6/1/2018 at 4:47 PM, OurJud said:

Scuse my Fallout ignorance (I may be burned at the stake for asking this) but does that mean the whole 1950s vibe will be gone, because the teaser certainly doesn't suggest so?

I love 50s America with a passion, but I must admit I really like the idea of a 'modern' Fallout game.

All Fallout games have taken place in the far future, way ahead of us. Fallout 3, for example, took place in 2200's. The only reason everything looks old and "1950's" is because in the Fallout universe, the transistor was never invented in the 1940's. Technological progression halted, and this is where our real life world separated from their universe. The lack of them inventing the transistor resulted in them never having more powerful computers, no LCD displays (instead sticking with old cathode-ray tubes), and society never improved upon other inefficiencies... such as cars, appliances, and the culture also froze as a result. They were starting to run out of oil as a result, which caused the great war. Nuclear power (whether it was nuclear powered cars, home appliances, and so on) took the front stage as a result of the oil/gas shortage. 

 

Hopefully that explains it. Read the divergence article for a more accurate (and probably more interesting) summary than what I just stated: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Divergence

 

So even in 2077, when the bombs dropped, everything looked, functioned, and basically was a 1950's society. Or rather, a deception of what people in the 1950's thought the future would look like. 

 

Edited June 10, 2018 by Original Light

[OurJud]

Thanks, @Original Light

 

I'd always been aware of the 50s theme in the FA games, but 4 was the first one I played so never really bothered investigating the lore.

 

Anyway, thanks again.

[chronic lumbago]

Looks like a SP fallout to me and it looks amazing.

[Chaise]

I'm hyped, still need some more details obviously but when he said it was 4x bigger than fallout 4 my pants exploded.

[chronic lumbago]

Did they mention anything else? I'm not watching the conference itself.

[OurJud]

34 minutes ago, 1972 said:

Looks like a SP fallout to me and it looks amazing.

It does look good, but I'm just worried it doesn't look different enough. That trailer could just have easily been from 4. Same roads, same crack patterns in the tarmac, same abandoned vehicles...

 

I dunno.

[uNi]

Four times bigger than Fallout 4, damn.