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[Speculation Topic] Why Arthur is not mentioned in RDR1?

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MarlboroMan1995

I read in some interview that they started writing RDR2 just prior to rdr 1’s release. Think how long before this that 1’s writing began... Yet, we don’t know what ideas and thoughts were in the writers head. 

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Mysterious hero
18 hours ago, MarlboroMan1995 said:

I read in some interview that they started writing RDR2 just prior to rdr 1’s release. Think how long before this that 1’s writing began... Yet, we don’t know what ideas and thoughts were in the writers head. 

I definitely want to see what R* writing process was when creating RDR2's story, because there is an oddity....

 

In the first game, The Strange Man mentions that John got shot during a ferry robbery, heavily implying that this was the same robbery John was telling Landon Ricketts about. However, RDR2 reveals that he got shot and left for dead during a train robbery and the ferry robbery was a separate robbery where John just so happen to get shot on.

 

This wouldn't be so odd.... except the RDR1 GOTY guide (released in 2011) mentions that John got shot and left for dead during a train robbery. This means that sometime between RDR1's release and RDR2's writing, R* decided to change the robbery John got left behind on from being a riverboat robbery to a train. My question is, why?

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l*o*l*

Probably because Rockstar probably did not have time think of arthur and bout that they did not want to make a new character.

 

 

 

Also John probably did not want to talk of his past, Dutch leaving him to die, wanted in Blackwater, ect

 

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"Revenge is a fool's game" Arthur Morgan

 

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UncleTacitus

Honestly, I think that even though Rockstar had a general idea about Dutch having a gang with several followers, they came up with some of the memebers only after the first game was either ready or nearing it. Arthur's role in the gang is so central, remember that he and Hosea were "the original ganstas" with Dutch, I'm 100% sure that he would have been mentioned in RDR1, if his character would've existed back then.

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DamoclesUk

Aliens brainwashed everyone into forgetting about him.

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xd DoubleHelix

Maybe the reason is that Marston doesn't want to remember Morgan. In two of the three endings, Morgan is killed by Micah Bell, either by getting stabbed or shot in the head. In the other ending, Morgan dies to a disease. In the epilogue, Marston kills Micah because he betrayed the Van Der Linde gang and (depending on your ending) killed Arthur Morgan.

 

If a loved one dies, people don't regularly talk about it because it would hurt them. A man like John Marston doesn't seem like one to talk about his feelings, especially with his memories in the gang weren't all that good seeming he was nearly killed by them. The only reason Marston would go back to hunt down the Van Der Linde gang for the safety of his family.

 

I'll end on Dutch's two best quotes: 

When I'm gone, they'll just find another monster. They have to, because they have to justify their wages. - Dutch Van Der Linde

"They're chasing us hard, because we represent everything that they fear" - Dutch Van Der Linde

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Copcaller

Probably cause it brings up painful memories Arthur was like a big brother to John. Uncle brought him up once and Abigail instantly burst into tears but at least Arthur's satchel is in rdr 1

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