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qyuubi786

Theory of what happened after the events of San Andreas

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qyuubi786

After the killing of Big Smoke and Officer Tenpenny. CJ stayed in the Grove with the leader of the Grove, his brother Sweet. All of Sweet's family members wanted to leave Los Santos but due to Sweet's naivety Carl stayed until his brothers death. Carl kept in contact with Mike Toreno and would do favours for him on the occasion. Due to Carl not having a reason to stay in LS anymore, due to his brothers demise, Kendal's and Ceaser's move to San Fierro and that Carl having set business opportunities in both San Fierro and Las Venturas. Grove Street families fell apart.

 

Whilst Sweet was alive Carl had a son that was named Franklin Clinton. Franklin's mother decided not to go with Carl and stayed in LS with Franklin, they decided the name Johnson as a surname would cause Franklin grief and decided to stick with Clinton.

 

As the events of GTA V unfold. Franklin wants to get out and expand. Through Toreno, CJ is able to keep tabs on his son's wellbeing and sympathises with his son's desire to expand his horizon, seeing a younger Carl inside his son.

 

Wishing a better life for his son CJ decides to sell Franklin his house in Mulloholand through Toreno. Prior to selling he renovated the house to have an additional floor.

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Evil empire

Nothing happens after the San Andreas events, all the characters are fictional.

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qyuubi786
Posted (edited)

Nothing happens after the San Andreas events, all the characters are fictional.

That's the most retarded thing I've heard in a long time. What has fictional characters got to do with events that take place after the story. That's why I stated it as a theory, not fact. Is the next thing you're going to tell me is between God of War 3 and the new God of War nothing happens? Cratos just suddenly has a son.

Edited by qyuubi786

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lil weasel

Whilst Sweet was alive Carl had a son that was named Franklin Clinton. Franklin's mother decided not to go with Carl and stayed in LS with Franklin, they decided the name Johnson as a surname would cause Franklin grief and decided to stick with Clinton.

 

As the events of GTA V unfold. Franklin wants to get out and expand. Through Toreno, CJ is able to keep tabs on his son's wellbeing and sympathises with his son's desire to expand his horizon, seeing a younger Carl inside his son.

Fiddle-Sticks... And magically, the three Island State of San Andreas suddenly, overnight, becomes an Atoll. With only one major city.

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Am Shaegar

There's no rule saying that CJ has to stay in LS to look over the operations in Grove Street, and even in general terms. I mean, CJ is the king of the entire state, and runs a bigger empire than just Grove Street.

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DirtCheap

I doubt CJ is Franklin's dad.

The oldest Franklin could be by V's events is 20 years (GTA SA takes place in late summer/early autumn so him being born in 1992 is impossible)

I know Franklin is a young man, but him being 20 sounds silly

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Blaze

According to GTA Wiki (grain of salt) Franklin was born in 1988, SA is in 92 - Giving 9 months or so for pregnancy one could argue Franklin was conceived in 1987, and after 5 years on the east coast it was time to go home. CJ confirmed Franklins father.

 

but remember Denise Robinson?

 

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what if she was to say get married and take the name Clinton?

 

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Jeansowaty

No. Don't you f*cking see all of Los Santos is different? Don't you see the city is different? Don't you see EVERYTHING is different in those games?

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Copcaller

He traveled back to San Fierro or Las ventarus to oversee his assets while sweet remained in Los Santos to deal with the gang.

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Evil empire
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Nothing happens after the San Andreas events, all the characters are fictional.

That's the most retarded thing I've heard in a long time. What has fictional characters got to do with events that take place after the story. That's why I stated it as a theory, not fact. Is the next thing you're going to tell me is between God of War 3 and the new God of War nothing happens? Cratos just suddenly has a son.

 

Fictional characters don't do anything on their own so imagining what might happen after the San Andreas events is irrelevant since the scenario stops there.

 

It's very simple but maybe is it too complicated for your intellectual capacities?

Edited by Evil empire

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lil weasel
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Arguments over what can and cannot be in a Fictional publication belongs to the Publisher, Author and Editor.
A Fan may have any thoughts on the subject. Back filling, and future thinking is subjective for all.
1. Make your statements.
2. Arguing is not worth the trouble. As ANYTHING, even improbable occurrences, may exist in Fiction.
3. HUGE Quote Trains, are Not necessary when making a suggestion.
4. Linking prublictions, and their characters, is Fun for some, and teeth grinding for others to read. ONLY the Publisher has the right to link, and should say so.

5. Rockstar *loves* to leave frayed ends, for the Fans to pickup and make Subjective connections, without confirmation. Sam Houser* has said as much in old interviews

Nearly everyone has an opinion, there is no need to get nasty because someone else does not agree.

 

*Examples:

”Claude didn't talk because "The lead player is the only person who never speaks. He has no personality. Or rather he has your personality, the player has to have freedom to act as they want, not as they think the model they are controlling should want.”

*-*-*

In another interview, Sam Houser said the following: “In GTA III, you had the main guy who never really had a name. I know that some people refer to him as Fido or Claude, but he was never officially given a name because we wanted it to be you.

 

Edited by lil weasel

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Am Shaegar

I guess even Evil empire has a right to confront the topic starter with certain facts that can't be really seen as a theory when it can be easily proven as invalid.

Fan fiction are not supposed to be discussed here. A theory is different. It is based on the in-game events, and cannot be irrational altogether by saying stuff like Franklin being CJ's son, based on what? There's no evidence in game that suggests such a possibility.

The theory clearly contradicts both the in-game universes.

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GTA_CAT

Is it me or everybody thinks that any black character has to be a relative of another black character? I don't like Tenpenny-CJ-Franklin succession. It's interesting to read these theories but you don't need to always relate black characters.

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Jeansowaty

Is it me or everybody thinks that any black character has to be a relative of another black character? I don't like Tenpenny-CJ-Franklin succession. It's interesting to read these theories but you don't need to always relate black characters.

maebe it wuz Smoke who wuz Ryder's daddy and Ryder was Sweet's bruh, CJ wus adopted and his mother was Old Reece maebe?

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Am Shaegar

Is it me or everybody thinks that any black character has to be a relative of another black character?

Not everyone, and surely not many either. Some people just enjoy the attention they get by making silly remarks. It's best to not get into such discussions, which unfortunately, not many are able to ignore and fall for the bait.

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lil weasel

Subjective thinking, by substituting the word "Think" or "Believe" for "Theory", does not make it One.

1. a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena:

2. a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.

 

[a lot of children do not remember the FIGHT and discreditation among "Scientists" over the Dinosaurs are Birds theory."]

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Domac

CJ and Franklin have something in common though:

They both wanted to 'abandon' the ghetto, and wanted to live a better life, which is (both with his annoying aunt Denise) the reason Franklin didn't hesitate to move in a mansion.

CJ would've probably done the same thing. If his mother didn't die, he would've stayed in Liberty City, who knows? If Sweet died instead of his mom, he'd probably return to Los Santos, and still become a kingpin, except that he wouldn't care much about Grove Street since Sweet wouldn't be there to pull him back and ask for his help regarding the gang.

 

OT:

In the ending cutscene, Kendl says how they got problems in San Fierro, in Las Venturas, etc. CJ probably continued helping Kendl and Cesar with the garage in SF, and Woozie with the casino in LV, and he wouldn't focus much on Grove Street, which Sweet would be mad about.

Sweet probably died in a gang attack or something, which is why Grove Street was taken over by Ballas (GTA V). CJ decided NOT to go back to Los Santos because he'd probably end up dying too, so he stayed in LV/SF and lived a good life.

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Reameb

Since its all theory and not official, a happy endimg would be.

 

CJ, Cesar, Kendl, etc, keep running the business on Ventura's and San Fierro, probably investing on more business, they get even more money, Families may stay at the top for a long time, but CJ could help the members get out of the gettho like he saids when sweet is released from jail, I think sweet would be mad about leaving the hood and all the gang related stuff but eventually would accept. With help from his family, so everyone would happily live in San Andrews or move to another like Vice City, doubt they would get in more trouble after the events I think CJ and company would be extra careful with business and all that.

 

Also, GTA V events are not canon to GTA San Andreas (saw some posts doing this)

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Many people have their theories about what happens after the story. They all have many things in common. Here is one idea turned into a series that connects San Andreas to Liberty City Stories:



Since many of you don't know Spanish, here is the summary:

Salvatore can't calm down after CJ robbed his casino. He decides to get his revenge by helping the Ballas attack the Grove Street Families. The mafia , with Toni, attacks Grove Street itself. The Aztecas and the Triads manage to defend Grove Street but Kendl is kidnapped by Toni. CJ goes to Liberty City to rescue her, eventually fighting against Toni. CJ fakes his death with a bulletproof vest in a shootout with Toni. Toni and Salvatore think that CJ is dead and everything else is the plot of Liberty City Stories. At the end, Claude uses a sniper rifle and kills Salvatore.



This (unfinished/most likely abandoned) series combines the previous story with the concept of GTA Series (the abandoned Vucko100 series):



This series is also in Spanish but here is the summary:

Salvatore had a secret son who was destined to have a fortune. CJ robbed Salvatore's casino, Toni earned himself the son's fortune after sparing CJ (the alternate ending to the previous story), and Claude killed Salvatore. The son grew up wanting revenge. Franklin joins the Grove Street Families and is assigned with killing the president, who wants the army to directly fight gangs. Salvatore's son becomes the new president and starts the war against gangs. Niko, Johnny, and Luis are assigned with arresting Sweet. Sweet is arrested but a cop kills Cesar when the Aztecas defend Grove Street. CJ calls Toni for help and receives all the other protagonists. Eventually, Niko and his allies join CJ. They attack military bases and free all the prisoners except one (for being a cliché character who only makes YouTube cause cancer). CJ is helped by Zero in finding the president, who is so paranoid that he even kills his most loyal helpers. A series of decoy locations are set, causing some protagonists to lose body parts or even their lives. In the last episode made, Woozie wants to help. CJ, Toni, and Claude are with the president, who lets the only prisoner who wasn't released to choose who is executed first. After saying their last words (except Claude), the screen goes black with a gunshot.

 

Edited by Male01

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SmokesWithCigs

According to GTA Wiki (grain of salt) Franklin was born in 1988, SA is in 92 - Giving 9 months or so for pregnancy one could argue Franklin was conceived in 1987, and after 5 years on the east coast it was time to go home. CJ confirmed Franklins father.

 

but remember Denise Robinson?

 

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what if she was to say get married and take the name Clinton?

 

CE_YpOOx.jpeg

denise is franklins aunt not his mom his mom died from drug overdose and its been confirmed that the 3d and hi def are two completely different universes. her name is a coincidence. I though everybody was over that childish notion that cj is franklins father.

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Blaze
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nah she his moms for sure

Edited by Blaze

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LSean

 

According to GTA Wiki (grain of salt) Franklin was born in 1988, SA is in 92 - Giving 9 months or so for pregnancy one could argue Franklin was conceived in 1987, and after 5 years on the east coast it was time to go home. CJ confirmed Franklins father.

 

but remember Denise Robinson?

 

maxresdefault.jpg

 

what if she was to say get married and take the name Clinton?

 

CE_YpOOx.jpeg

denise is franklins aunt not his mom his mom died from drug overdose and its been confirmed that the 3d and hi def are two completely different universes. her name is a coincidence. I though everybody was over that childish notion that cj is franklins father.

 

Whys does everyone say the 3d "universe" and hd "universe" are two different things? I've heard that for years but rockstar has never stated that the characters from gta 3 to vcs are different than 4 to 5. Now if we were to say 3d era and hd era, that would make more sense. Also why does Lazlow, Madd Dogg, Burger Shot, Cluckin Bell and Grove Street "exist" but everything else doesn't. You can't have it both ways. I think in any way it's rockstar just being too lazy to get the orignal voice actors/actresses of the original "3D" characters to come back and voice them thus making the two eras different "universes". That's always angered me.

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Jeansowaty
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No. Don't you f*cking see all of Los Santos is different? Don't you see the city is different? Don't you see EVERYTHING is different in those games?

Edited by lil weasel
adjusted quote.

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The Eddo
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Just because Franklin's aunt's name is Denise, it doesn't mean he's CJ's son.

Heck, it's even hard to say whether CJ married one of his girlfriends or not because they all can be killed, even after finishing the storyline.

 

Everything that EXISTS and HAPPENS in 3D-era is non-canon with the HD-era and vice versa, why you people don't understand?

Madd Dogg, OG Loc etc. are just recreations of 3D-era characters in HD-era, like IV's LC.

 

EDIT:

 

Like Jeansowaty said, everything is FREAKING different.

Now please, shut the topic.

Edited by The Eddo

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Jeansowaty
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Yeah man, it's just how Ryder's first name is Lance, does everyone think he's the same as Lance Vance? :catspider:

Edited by Jeansowaty

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Mark_Purayah_II

3D Universe is not connected with the HD universe. so Denise Robinson, is not the same character as Denise Clinton. Also 3D Los Santos is very different to HD Los Santos. So this theory is sadly to be scrapped.

 

Although I'm not saying its a bad theory, but 3D and HD has a barrier between the 2 universes.

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