Potter145 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) The place for everything RDRII. [Last Update: May 4th]Confirmed World/Map/Setting - 1899 (Year of the Blackwater Massacre) - Map (High-res version + RDR map) - snowy and lush regions, prairies, dense forests, redwoods, mountains, bayous, farms, settlements, villages, towns, more water, camps Characters - Van der Linde Gang (referred to as "Sons of Dutch") - Dutch Van Der Linde (Leader, trusts Arthur, charismatic) - Protagonist outlaw Arthur Morgan (Dutchs right-hand man, chief enforcer of Van der Linde gang, provides outlaw camp with food and supplies, intimidating, slowly questions Dutch, raised by the gang, feels responsible and has a sense of duty for the gang, has a conflict between the gang he calls family and his own ideals) - Hosea Matthews (Oldest member, Dutchs friend, met him 1878 when they tried to rob each other) - Bill Williamson - John Marston (became part of the gang after leaving orphanage) - Charles Smith ("We need an extra gun") - Sadie Adlers (Arhur Morgan is the only one she trusts) - Javier Esquela - Uncle - Micha Bell ("Sometimes... brothers make mistakes") - Pearson (Cook of the Gang, will task you to get food) - Federal Agents - Edgar Ross ("You are a wanted man, Mr. Morgan.") - Other Persons - Seth - Unknown woman (related to Arthur, "You will never change. I know that.") - Teasure Hunters, Prostitutes (Arthur can interact with them) Online Multiplayer (Red Dead Online) - Will feature options for recurrent consumer spending Story/Plot/Synopsis - "an epic tale of life in America at the dawn of modern age" - Lawmen in 3 different states are after the Van der Linde gang - "The end of the wild west era has begun as lawmen hunt down the last remaining outlaw gangs." - "After a robbery goes badly wrong in the western town of Blackwater, Arthur Morgan and the Van der Linde gang are forced to flee." - "With federal agents and the best bounty hunters in the nation massing on their heels, the gang must rob, steal and fight their way across the rugged heartland of America in order to survive." - "As deepening internal divisions threaten to tear the gang apart, Arthur must make a choice between his own ideals and loyalty to the gang who raised him." - For the members the gang feels like family, they are like brothers - Fire imagery as an analogy (resembles technical progress, industrialization, warmth of a group sitting around a fire, but also the burning of old ideals, the age of outlaws will fade away, just like fire) - They struggle for survival, relevance and to keep up the old (wild) way to live, without government regulation - Arthur Morgan and John Marston suspect were they are heading at and question the sanity of Dutch - Dutch becomes more egoistic and insane - At some point John Marston is captured by authorities - Dutch wants to make as much money in the east, before heading to the west for freedom - Dutch later becomes a little paranoid, asking Arthur "Do you have my back?" Gameplay Features - Dual wielding (even with two different handguns), Holster your guns, Have them out by your side, - Canoeing - Sneaking, Stealth kills, Executions - Brawls, Interrogation/Intimidation, Pistol-whipping, tackle people down, Disarm them - Lead your horse, Holding a lantern - Change clothing (Jackets, Coats, Boots, Shirts, Hats), Wearing different bandanas differently (open, as a knot/mask, different colors) - Hunting, Taming horses, Cattle herding, Set up camp, Horse riding, Driving a Carriage, Selling/Buying equipment/items - (No instant death if the water reaches your hip) - Poker (Gambling Minigames) - Dueling (You can even challenge people yourself), Empty a whole magazine in one moment, Dead Eye - You can trigger contextual dialogue (New Lock-On-System, where you can antagonise people for example, or be friendly, greet them, rob them) - Hunting (Shooting animals with a bow makes the meat more valuable / , Fishing - Robbing people even without drawing your gun if they are easily scared (Bully people into giving you money) - You can open drawers or steal things from other objects, such as kidney beans, or Open World - Day/Night cycle - Woolly Blue Curl, Cactus - Fightclub - Live Entertainment (Theater) - Dynamic weather - You contionuously move, maintain and walk around your outlaw camp to talk to certain gang members - Improved physics (Horse precipitates a small-scale avalanche by kicking up pebbles) - People in all kinds of places (including your gang members in your camp) have their own schedules (people cutting wood for a fire and getting water for cooking meat etc. / people washing clothes / the group eats at certain times / dancing / playing guitar / different guards for the camp at different times / farmers herding their sheep....) - Gang members make comments depending whether or not you provide for them - People have branching conversations that change depending on the circumstances and if Arthur is nearby, plus you may interact with them which may result in new opportunities - People react on you based on what you are doing, where you are, what you have done in the past, if you carry your weapon open and what your honor is (A sherrif may ask you to be law-abiding if he suspects you will cause trouble, A man may banish you from his property, People may run away or retaliate if you have your gun out, People may respect you if you have a dead animal on your horse, they despise you if you have a decaying animal on your horse, they a scared of you if you have a dead human body on your horse or see you as a threat and attack you) - People may greet you (Good day!), give you probs for the animal you hunted or are dismissive of you (e.g. if you carry a gun, you may intimidate people, they may be scared, they may want to threaten you) - The world will respond differently if you wear certain clothes or if you have a dead body on the back of your horse - You can take a cup out of your satchel and put coffee in it and drink from it and walk with the cup in your hand - You will find some optional missions naturally in your camp - Every encounter can be the start of a short, dynamic and unpredictable story (the next step for random events) - People may alert lawman if you break the law and you have to decide if you stop them by intimidating them, killing them (which gets you a higher wanted level) or flee Missions - Train/Bank heists - You acquire new members during missions - You will make choices during missions influencing dialogue, objective and certain mission outcomes in side- and main-missions - different side-missions with gang members will occur naturally (e.g. small-scale bank robbery) - errands for gang members (e.g. get meat) - they are more seamless than ever before (for example a side-mission where you rob a bank has no cutscenes or cuts, but is still filled with dialogue, cinematic moments and narrative choices) Animals - Greater animal interaction (Coyote hunting fisher (weasel), dog barking at vultures eating coyote, alligator attacking boar drinking on river shore out of nowhere, Dogs scatter up from a bush as you go past) - Deer, Rat, Sheep, Coyote, Birds (Great Egret, Crow, Cardinal), Bison, Cattle (Cow), a variety of Dogs, Turkey Vulture, Insects, Alligator, Boar, Grizzly Bear, Elk, Weasel (Fisher), Flies, Rabbit - Different horse breeds (thick/thin) - Animals have different ages - Your horse grunts if exhausted and kicks you off if it is spooked by a bear attack for example, but if it trusts you more, it won't get easily scared anymore - Your current horse will die permanently and you need to get a new one if you don't heal it as soon as possible - Bigger dead animals (like deer) on your horse can decay - Humans and animals react to each other (A dog may alert a fisherman by barking if you steal things from him) Weapons/Tools - They come in a variety of forms/looks/variations (different grips/intarsia/colors) - Some rifles have straps on them / can be stored on your horse - Double Action Revolver, Cattleman Revolver, Schofield Revolver, Winchester Revolver Volcanic Pistol - Repeater Carbine, Bolt Action Rifle, Winchester Repeater, Henry Repeater, Springfield Rifle - Double-barreled Shotgun, Sawed-off Shotgun - Bow, Knife (Bowie Knife, other knives), Lasso, Dynamite - Lantern, Bandolier, Bandana, Campsite, a bag for storing items Means of transport - Trains (several, different kinds of locomotives, they contain weapons and can be raided), A variety of horse-drawn carriages/wagons (including armored ones), Horses (muscle/skinny) - Streetcars Locations/Areas - Oil field - Valentine - Cemetery - Cornwall Tar & Kerosene - Blackwater - Van Horn Trading Post - Annesburg (Roanoke Ridge) - New Hanover Stores/Shops - Valentine - J. Worths General Store - Gunsmith R.L. Dalton - Doctor - Barbers (in Saloon) Other buildings - Valentine - Law Office - Smithfields Saloon - Church - Blacksmith - House for rent (Keanes room) - Sheriff - Fitzgerald Lock & Safe Company - Blackwater - Blackwater Grand Theater - Van Horn Trading Post - Van Horn Inn - Annesburg - Annesburg Mine (Jameson Mining and Coal Company) Lore/Groups/Institutions/Companies - Boles Overland Stagecoach Company - Van der Linde Gang - Fitzgerald Lock & Safe Company - Repeating D.D.P. Arms Company - Pacific Union, Central Union - Sheriff, Lawmen - Roanoke Cumberland Railroad Co. - Jameson Mining and Coal Company - Southern and Eastern (Train/Railroad Company) Extras - Artbook (Coming October 30th, 2018 / "storyboards and behind-the-scenes inner workings of the game's creation, with a mix of detailed original art, concept, story, and character studies, sketches, and actual screengrabs of the end result") - Newspaper - Different saddlebags - Dutch has two rings on his right hand (one shows a lion head, the other shows the letter 'D') - A allows you to unlock an exlusive variation of the Double-Action Revolver for RDR2 - PS4 players are first to earn select content in Red Dead Online - Single-Player focused >> "For all the single player fans, who hate multiplayer games - please be aware of this - we are working flat out on Red Dead Redemption 2" - Imran Sarwar, Director of Design at R* - Trailers captured on PS4 - You can turn the HUD off - You can loose your hat (for example if someone shot it from your head) and retrieve it or get/buy a new one - Your beard will grow and you can shave it - You can store animal skins in your inventory, though it's capacity is limited Sources:T2 Investor CallOfficial WebsiteNewswireArtbook on amazon.comimfdb - Weapons of RDR2 Rumored Outdated Screenshot of an early build / Alleged Concept ArtStory - Starts when you find out someone in your gang is a Pinkerton Spy Mechanics - You will decide who to take on your missions (Similar to Mass Effect/Dragon Age) - Gold-Mining, in-depth Fishing (buy baits/tackles/can of worms), Weapon and Horsemanship challenges to increase rider skill, Plants/Herbs gathering (Clamshell, Ghost, Night Scented, Rat Tail, Spider Orchids) - Gambling Minigames - Driving either armoured or fast minecarts, handcarts and carriages - Dialog with unique inhabitants of the railway trains - First and Third person perspective - Dead Eye (tracks bounties, detects animals nearby) - Random Events / Strangers (Bounty hunting quests, treasure hunts, adventure with a mysterious stranger) - Improved Wanted level system - You can trigger contextual dialogue and force your injured enemies to offer information or money - Swimming - Crafting - Beard growth / change (facial) hair / visit barber World - Spans five zones - Environments more interactive (like Skyrim) - Gang hideouts - NPCs will decorate storefronts, pack things way, go about their day/wander the streets, according to Day/Night cycle - Armadillo and Ridgewood - Slums Market (Buying items at a reduced price) Game Plus - You end up playing as John Marston at Beechers Hope - There are a lot of quests dealing with building the ranch - You do several things to build a gazebo - There is a minigame, where you help a mare give birth Online Multiplayer (Red Dead Online) - Battle Royale, Revive and Survive (LTS where you can revive your teammates), Money Grab (Capture the Flag but with bags of money) - Frequent rewards for tasks (Travelling a distance, shooting someone with a bow) - Purchasable and upgradable tents come in a variety of different themes - Free events (spontaneous treasure hunts/deathmatches) - Standard Playlists - May feature Cross-Play between PS4 and Xbox One - 'Bonds' are the 'Shark Cards' of Red Dead Online (Micotransaction: You pay real-life money to receive in-game currency) - Character Creation, Hunting Companion App - Social Elements, Poker Minigame Sources:Reddit postTrusted Reviews article Images Videos Articles/Websites Official WebsiteIGN First Look PreviewTelegraph First Look PreviewWho is Arthur Morgan? - IGNWhy it is more than just a Prequel - IGNEvery secret in Trailer#3 - IGNTakeaways from the Info Drop - GameInformerFirst Look Previews SummaryCharacter Thread - GTAForumsJeuxActu First Look Preview - Google TranslateGamePro First Look Preview - Google TranslateEveryeye First Look Preview - Google TranslateHobbyConsolas First Look Preview - Google Translate Edited July 13, 2018 by TheExecutor10 Len Lfc, Kirsty, 1898 and 12 others 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee-account-with-1kbans Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Nice thread! phenetole and Potter145 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandSoap2811 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) Maybe include some pictures and have sources to the unconfirmed info? And we also have a everything we know type of post in the general chat http://gtaforums.com/topic/871075-red-dead-redemption-2-general-chat/page-1 Edited April 23, 2018 by mombo2811 Potter145 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenrock Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 native american influence? when was this leaked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uNi Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Maybe include some pictures and have sources to the unconfirmed info? And we also have a everything we know type of post in the general chat http://gtaforums.com/topic/871075-red-dead-redemption-2-general-chat/page-1 It's also here, other pages will be added once we have better info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DexMacLeod Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 native american influence? when was this leaked? I'm guessing this is a reference to that Dream Catcher in the first trailer and the "Native Guy" in the second. Potter145 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzy Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 And the type of canoe being used in the first trailer in the same scene as the dream catcher Potter145 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potter145 Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) Update #1 (April 24th 2018)*Confirmed*1. Van der Linde Gang added to *Lore/Groups/Institutions/Companies*2. Mysterious Man replaced by Edgar Ross in *Characters*3. "Big, sprawling, optimistic view of America" / "incredible emotional depth" added to *Story/Plot/Synopsis*4. Sources added:https://www.gamespot.com/articles/red-dead-redemption-2-will-offer-big-sprawling-opt/1100-6445515/https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption2/https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/tags/716*Rumored*1. April 26th added to *Next news*2. Sources added:https://www.rdr2.com/forums/topic/481-spoilers-3-year-old-reddit-leak-correct/http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/red-dead-redemption-2-leak-reveals-battle-royale-first-person-more-3388634 Maybe include some pictures [...] I think this would blow this thread out of proportion. Besides, there is already a huge media thread (also linked under *Sources*) Edited April 25, 2018 by TheExecutor10 Dee-account-with-1kbans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandSoap2811 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Update #1 (April 24th 2018) *Confirmed* 1. Van der Linde Gang added to *Lore/Groups/Institutions/Companies* 2. Mysterious Man replaced by Edgar Ross in *Characters* 3. "Big, sprawling, optimistic view of America" / "incredible emotional depth" added to *Story/Plot/Synopsis* 4. Sources added: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/red-dead-redemption-2-will-offer-big-sprawling-opt/1100-6445515/ https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption2/ https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/tags/716 *Rumored* 1. April 26th added to *Next news* 2. Sources added: https://www.rdr2.com/forums/topic/481-spoilers-3-year-old-reddit-leak-correct/ http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/red-dead-redemption-2-leak-reveals-battle-royale-first-person-more-3388634 Maybe include some pictures [...] I think this would blow this thread out of proportion. Besides, there is already a huge media thread (also linked under *Sources*)You can tag the pictures as spoilers or upload a imgur album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potter145 Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) Update #2 (April 25th 2018)*Confirmed*- States and Regions of the Red Dead Universe (click here) + more water added to *World/Map/Setting*- Arthur blinks with his eyes when shooting added to *Graphics/Details**Rumored* - States and Regions of the Red Dead Universe (click here) added to *The alleged Map*PLUS You can tag the pictures as spoilers [...] *Images* and *Videos* sections added I will let these sections be there for a while and then decide if we should keep or remove them. We will see... [...] we also have a everything we know type of post in the general chathttp://gtaforums.com/topic/871075-red-dead-redemption-2-general-chat/page- Yeah, kind of, but the general chat post basically only lists the Newswire posts. Edited May 1, 2018 by TheExecutor10 ivarblaauw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivarblaauw Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 This thread. I wanted a thread like this for quite a while. Thank you mate! Lots of information, and while I knew most of it already, it is good to reread it and see some details I had missed (birds fly away with sound, footsteps in mud, blinking etc.) Potter145 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DexMacLeod Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I feel like you maybe need a speculation thread or something. There's a whole lot of stuff in the Confirmed Section that isn't at all confirmed. Grizzy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potter145 Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) I feel like you maybe need a speculation thread or something. There's a whole lot of stuff in the Confirmed Section that isn't at all confirmed. If it is shown, heard or seen in trailer, statements or screenshots, then it is confirmed. I don't think we need to be fussy and need for example explicit statements from R* like: "Canoeing is in the game" ... Because it obviously is. However, like I said, I'm open for feedback and will remove certain things if they aren't confirmed or too much speculation. Feel free to let me know if things I listed aren't confirmed from your perspective. Edited May 1, 2018 by TheExecutor10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DexMacLeod Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Well, the trailers don't show any gameplay at all so everything in the gameplay features section is just assumptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1898 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) Good thread. Not being picky here but "guide your horse" should be "lead your horse". Just fyi I think this is a pretty cool feature. Also I think swimming or at least not drowning is pretty much confirmed. Edited April 25, 2018 by 1898 Potter145 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potter145 Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 Well, the trailers don't show any gameplay at all so everything in the gameplay features section is just assumptions. In a way you're right, I also thought about that. But for example we have a screenshot where Dutch holds two Schofield Revolvers, in the first trailer we have someone riding and dual wielding and of course in the second trailer we have Arthur Morgan dual wielding and shooting. So that's one example for the gameplay section. Dual wielding is basically confirmed at this point, just like holding a lantern (as we can see in Trailer #2) and canoeing (as you can see in the first trailer). I can go on with all the other things listed and I bet all of them will be included in the game. But, still then, I get your concerns, I can fully understand what you mean. You know, but I have a different opinion on this. And I think the trailers actually sometimes show gameplay, but from another perspective and without the HUD and highly edited. 1898 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potter145 Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) Update #3 (April 29th, 2018)*Confirmed*- Between 1890s and 1906 replaced by Turn of the 20th century (1899-1901) in *World/Map/Setting*- Tex and German Psychiatrist added to *Characters*- R* want to add innovative, not derivative, elements added to *Online Multiplayer*- (No instant death if the water reaches your hip) and Dual wielding (even with two different handguns) added to *Gameplay Features*- Artbook (Coming October 30th, 2018 / "storyboards and behind-the-scenes inner workings of the game's creation, with a mix of detailed original art, concept, story, and character studies, sketches, and actual screengrabs of the end result") added to new *Extras* section- Source added: Artbook on amazon.com- Fitzgerald Bank + Repeating D.D.P. Arms Company + Boles Overland Stagecoach Company added to *Lore/Groups/Institutions/Companies*- Cornwall added to *Locations*- Lawmen in 3 different states chase/are after "them" + Starts before the Van der Linde gang broke apart + Dutch worries about Arthurs loyalty added to *Story/Plot/Synopsis*- Different horse breeds (thick/thin) added to *Animals**Rumored*- (High-res verion + RDR map) added to *The alleged Map*- Before May 16th added to *Next news*- Crafitng and Swimming added to *Mechanics*- Standard Playlists added to *Online Multiplayer**Images*- Original Announcement Artwork + Double-Action Revolver Artwork added On another note...What do you guys say, should I add the leaked Map to the confirmed section, since everything seems to line up? I re-watched the trailers, looked up the locations and compared it to the map. My conclusion is that there is no way this is not the official map, or at least was at some point and changed a bit over time.So, what do you think? Edited April 29, 2018 by TheExecutor10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee-account-with-1kbans Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 No. That isn't confirmed yet although it looks extremely real, that doesn't mean its confirmed Potter145 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilalKurd Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 No. That isn't confirmed yet although it looks extremely real, that doesn't mean its confirmed Same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1898 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Just a suggestion to see if wanted to add this link to the IMFDB. This is the place to go for any movie or gaming firearms info. These guys know their guns and like us, they'll be updating as new info is presented. http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Red_Dead_Redemption_2 Potter145 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potter145 Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) Just a suggestion to see if wanted to add this link to the IMFDB. This is the place to go for any movie or gaming firearms info. These guys know their guns and like us, they'll be updating as new info is presented. http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Red_Dead_Redemption_2 Yeah, I looked that up for the weapon section. I will add it to the sources for anyone who is interested in what the real-life counterparts of these guns are. On an unrelated note: Today I added a lot more than just what you can see in my most recent post and I'm still looking for more. Currently I am reading some interesting old threads in this forum and watching analysis videos on YouTube. Man, I realised there is already a lot of info out, I mean, just look at the thread^^ Edited May 1, 2018 by TheExecutor10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potter145 Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) Update #4 (April 30th, 2018)*Confirmed*- Trailer#3 coming May 2nd, 11AM ET added to *Next news* - Woolly Blue Curl added to *Open World**Rumored* - Outdated Screenshot of an early build added- Alleged Concept Art added*Images*- Trailer#3 Announcement Artwork added*Videos*- Trailer#3 Announcement GIF addedLooking forward to the third official trailer... this thread will contain a lot more information this Wednesday! Edited April 30, 2018 by TheExecutor10 damienrayemusic, ivarblaauw and UltraGizmo64 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...