Should the Orbital Cannon be removed?

[NULL AND VOID]

How about just remove the auto lock option for kills? It kills me this topic of wanting to remove thia gameplay feature. I'd rather have the mk2 OP gone than this thing. These losers in GTA aren't even pulling GTA's!!! It's just gay ass starswars crap. Bring back the old school... Drive bys and car chases. Not dancing sniper battles and flying bikes with 20 rockets...it's laughable.

Edited December 22, 2019 by NULL AND VOID

[BurntTamale]

Its annoying having to hide in my apartment all the time because of mad tryhards. I would like to see it removed.

[TheGhostFromPast]

55 minutes ago, Tao Cheng said:

or find a public lobby with no one around if you're trying to do criminal mastermind for doomsday heist.

If you want a pure PVP action experience expect to get rekt and find a way around to avoid getting rekt.

 

And here I thought that pure PVP action experience means fighting with weapons, which gives a chance to fight back, and having fights which requires balls not money.

 

  

50 minutes ago, NULL AND VOID said:

How about just remove the auto lock option for kills? It kills me this topic of wanting to remove thia gameplay feature. I'd rather have the mk2 OP gone than this thing. These losers in GTA aren't even pulling GTA's!!! It's just gay ass starswars crap. Bring back the old school... Drive bys and car chases. Not dancing sniper battles and flying bikes with 20 rockets...it's laughable.

 

That flying sausage Oppressor MK II is something, which players can notice before it attacks them, but I can't say the same about OC. In other words flying sausage at least gives some kind of a chance to fight back, but in OC case there isn't any chance to fight back! Not to mention that flying sausage can be used for money grinding while OC is nothing more than a griefer's and cheater's dream tool!

Edited December 22, 2019 by TheGhostFromPast

[NULL AND VOID]

Dream tool? How often do you get nailed during such an important moment? It takes skill to notice and nail someone during a sale... 

[Big Molio]

11 minutes ago, NULL AND VOID said:

Dream tool? How often do you get nailed during such an important moment? It takes skill to notice and nail someone during a sale... 

Every couple of minutes by players with billions of glitched money hopping in and out of the lobby if you listen to some people in here.

 

I’m yet to see this, but what do I know?

[NULL AND VOID]

I still don't see how it hurts you that bad. If you are unfortunate to get got by it then so be it. It's worth the price to hit someone if they cause you grief. 

 

If you get griefed by an orbital cannon you gotta figure to leave the session after the first hit. 2 times? Well obviously your up against a crew.. I dont have glitched money and when I fire a shot it's usually 5 - 15% of my total funds. Whats so bad? You mean the people who have cheated in a number of ways just to get money? In which fact it usually is not to abuse the orbital cannon.

 

Edit: You have to have the balls to leave the session if you see a hacker abusing this "hack" Most people have too much pride...

Edited December 23, 2019 by NULL AND VOID

[Lonely-Martin]

6 hours ago, Tao Cheng said:

or find a public lobby with no one around if you're trying to do criminal mastermind for doomsday heist.

Just a heads up, it's not essential for that as we can die/be killed by players or NPC's on the DDH public preps and not cause the challenge to reset. It's only the setups and finales we do away from lobbies that cause a fail.

[Tao Cheng]

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Edited September 2, 2020 by Tao Cheng

[TheGhostFromPast]

11 hours ago, NULL AND VOID said:

Dream tool? How often do you get nailed during such an important moment? It takes skill to notice and nail someone during a sale... 

 

Of course OC is only a cheater's and griefer's dream tool, because it can be used only for cheating and griefing. You don't need any skills in order to push some buttons, which activates OC, but you need skills for Oppressor MK II. 

 

And what skills do you need in order to notice someone, who's doing a sale, when the game already announces to everyone who exactly is doing a sale mission?! 

 

  

11 hours ago, NULL AND VOID said:

I still don't see how it hurts you that bad. If you are unfortunate to get got by it then so be it. It's worth the price to hit someone if they cause you grief. 

 

OC doesn't give any chance to fight back and cargo is gone with one shot while the rest of the tools at least gives some kind of a chance to fight back.  Not to mention that OC doesn't even make a noise, which would indicate that players have few seconds to get away from OC blast radius.

 

Besides in a game like GTA:O, where it's possible to cheat so much, OC only encourages toxic behavior and lousy playstyle. 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 23, 2019 by TheGhostFromPast

[Big Molio]

38 minutes ago, TheGhostFromPast said:

Of course OC is only a cheater's and griefer's dream tool, because it can be used only for cheating and griefing.

That's not true though, because using the OC for a single kill, no matter how "unskilled" that might be deemed, is not automatically cheating nor griefing. They are more often than not used for a revenge kill I would argue.

 

38 minutes ago, TheGhostFromPast said:

You don't need any skills in order to push some buttons, which activates OC, but you need skills for Oppressor MK II. 

The only skill that you need for the OP2 is to know that you need to chaff just before your opponent on his OP2 gets within lock-on range (To be fair, most players don't appear to know how to do this)

[TheGhostFromPast]

2 hours ago, Big Molio said:

That's not true though, because using the OC for a single kill, no matter how "unskilled" that might be deemed, is not automatically cheating nor griefing. They are more often than not used for a revenge kill I would argue.

 

The only skill that you need for the OP2 is to know that you need to chaff just before your opponent on his OP2 gets within lock-on range (To be fair, most players don't appear to know how to do this)

 OC itself can't be used for money grinding, just for cheating and griefing. It doesn't have any other purpose in GTA:O! Not to mention that with OC you don't have to get to someone in order to obliterate him. You can obliterate him with OC even if he's on the other side of the map while with with OP2 you can't obliterate someone, who is on the other side of the map. By the way! I could obliterate someone with OC at the same time when I drink coffee, tea or whatever is that I drink at that moment, but I couldn't do that with OP2.

 

Besides you need to learn how to fly with OP2! If you'll fly like a beginner or even worse than that then it wouldn't be a surprise if even noobs can destroy you and your OP2. (I'm not talking about you specifically)

 

 

P.S.

 

OP2 existence in GTA:O can be excused with a fact that OP2 can be used for money grinding. OC doesn't even have this excuse. The only reason why OC exists in GTAO  is because greedystar is hoping that players, who were obliterated with OC, will be forced to buy fish cards.

 

 

Edited December 23, 2019 by TheGhostFromPast

[NULL AND VOID]

You can kill people with your eyes closed on the mk2! If you have a good memory of the map and someone directs you. "He's in mirror park behind the bathrooms. Beep beep beep. Kill.

 

Can't kill someone blindfolded with the OC cause you would have to run blind down the hallway..get to your control console and select a name from the list. Odds in that are lowwwww

 

Orbital Cannon is fun and exciting when you don't auto aim. We should stop our rivals from making money at all costs. Why the hell is buying shark cards viewed as a negative? Don't answer that. Ya'll probably know people who spend 20 or 30 dollara a month on rinky dink little mobile games. Imagine if you knew someone paying 20 dollars a month on shark cards heaven forbid??? You'd call em a loser!

[TheGhostFromPast]

5 hours ago, NULL AND VOID said:

You can kill people with your eyes closed on the mk2! If you have a good memory of the map and someone directs you. "He's in mirror park behind the bathrooms. Beep beep beep. Kill.

 

Can't kill someone blindfolded with the OC cause you would have to run blind down the hallway..get to your control console and select a name from the list. Odds in that are lowwwww

 

Orbital Cannon is fun and exciting when you don't auto aim. We should stop our rivals from making money at all costs. Why the hell is buying shark cards viewed as a negative? Don't answer that. Ya'll probably know people who spend 20 or 30 dollara a month on rinky dink little mobile games. Imagine if you knew someone paying 20 dollars a month on shark cards heaven forbid??? You'd call em a loser!

 

Do I really have to remind you that a lot of players can't even pilot Buzzard without crashing in trees, let alone fly properly with MK2?!  OC in 99% cases will obliterate everything with one shot and all because someone pressed few buttons, not because he had skills. That doesn't happen with MK2. Players need to learn how to use MK2 before they can terrorize someone with it and last time I checked MK 2 doesn't obliterate everything with one shot.   And with MK2 you have to get close to your target. Fighting with OC doesn't require any balls and skills, just money and with it you can obliterate targets, which are on the other side of the map. In other words OC is a great tool for cowards, who are too scared to face their opponent. 

 

 

OC can be only used for that kind of a fun, which means terrorizing others. Other than that its purpose is griefing and cheating. Nothing fun about that.

 

MK2 can be used for that kind of fun, which doesn't affect other players in negative way. You can use it in missions or simply fly around with it. 

 

Actually I wouldn't call someone a loser just because he spent his money on shark cards! People can spend money on whatever they want. 

 

But OC shouldn't be in a game where it's possible to cheat so much. I can't comment about consoles, but I'm pretty sure that on PC it's not hard for cheaters to bypass cooldown and price tag. 

Edited December 23, 2019 by TheGhostFromPast

[Big Molio]

4 hours ago, TheGhostFromPast said:

 OC itself can't be used for money grinding, just for cheating and griefing. It doesn't have any other purpose in GTA:O!

It may well be used for cheating and griefing, but to assert that it is used just for cheating and griefing is not true. A single kill from the OC cannot be reasonably classed as griefing, and there are many reasons to use it.

 

For example I have seen the Orbital Cannon used to clear the scoring area of the defending crew members in Stand Your Ground, before the player's mates rushed in to occupy it. That isn't griefing, nor is it cheating, because the feature is legit in game and was used legitimately.

[Cahill--EFC]

Its a shame we cant have a player on the canon, when the rest of the heist team come out the Casino....... And wipe out all the Swat vans. 

[TheGhostFromPast]

8 minutes ago, Big Molio said:

It may well be used for cheating and griefing, but to assert that it is used just for cheating and griefing is not true. A single kill from the OC cannot be reasonably classed as griefing, and there are many reasons to use it.

 

For example I have seen the Orbital Cannon used to clear the scoring area of the defending crew members in Stand Your Ground, before the player's mates rushed in to occupy it. That isn't griefing, nor is it cheating, because the feature is legit in game and was used legitimately.

 

And this is a great example for lazy and lousy playstyle, which OC encourages. Instead of using weapons like shotgun players use a weapon which doesn't require any skills. Just press few buttons and voila! Enemy or enemies are obliterated with one shot!

Edited December 23, 2019 by TheGhostFromPast

[Big Molio]

Just now, TheGhostFromPast said:

 

And this is a great example for lazy and lousy playstyle. Instead of using weapons like shotgun players use a weapon which doesn't require any skills. Just press few buttons and voila! Enemy or enemies are obliterated with one shot!

Nah, it's just a bit of fun. Don't forget, they are a team member down because he is at the facility, and the players near the scoring area still have to hold the area down. I was lucky not to get caught in the blast myself playing alone, but it took about four of the defending players out at once. Pretty funny.

[Cahill--EFC]

4 minutes ago, TheGhostFromPast said:

 

And this is a great example for lazy and lousy playstyle, which OC encourages. Instead of using weapons like shotgun players use a weapon which doesn't require any skills. Just press few buttons and voila! Enemy or enemies are obliterated with one shot!

They should of made the OC as a co-op weapon....... requires 3 other players to paint the area to be hit with lazers. therefore communication required to operate it. 

 

that would feck up a lot players trolling antics

Edited December 23, 2019 by ferguson99

[TheGhostFromPast]

Just now, Big Molio said:

Nah, it's just a bit of fun. Don't forget, they are a team member down because he is at the facility, and the players near the scoring area still have to hold the area down. I was lucky not to get caught in the blast myself playing alone, but it took about four of the defending players out at once. Pretty funny.

Fun?! What's so fun about obliterating enemies with one shot?! It's very damn boring. It's actually as boring as using immortality cheat code in Warcraft 3, which also allows player to kill enemies with one hit.  

 

3 minutes ago, ferguson99 said:

They should of made the OC as a co-op weapon....... requires 3 other players to paint the area to be hit with lazers. therefore communication required to operate it. 

 

that would feck up a lot players trolling antics

 

I think this is a good idea. I would like to see this happening if they won't remove OC.

 

 

 

 

 

[Big Molio]

12 minutes ago, TheGhostFromPast said:

Fun?! What's so fun about obliterating enemies with one shot?! It's very damn boring. It's actually as boring as using immortality cheat code in Warcraft 3, which also allows player to kill enemies with one hit.  

Well I was there, and we were having fun mate. What can I say?

 

I haven't played it since MW2, but surely there are COD equivalents, I mean weren't there air strikes and other things you could call in? I seem to remember some sort of nuke you could set off. The OC is not really anything new

Edited December 23, 2019 by Big Molio

[TheGhostFromPast]

3 minutes ago, Big Molio said:

Well I was there, and we were having fun mate. What can I say?

 

I haven't played it since MW2, but surely there are COD equivalents, I mean weren't there air strikes and other things you could call in? I seem to remember some sort of nuke you could set off. The OC is not really anything new

 

It's fun for you, but it isn't for me. Killing enemies with one shot is way too easy, because it doesn't require any efforts.

 

 

Of course OC isn't anything new. In Battlefield 2 artillery is something similar to OC, but, like I said before, artillery in Battlefield 2 at least makes some kind of a noise, which indicates that players have only about 10 seconds to get out of it's blast radius. OC in GTA:O doesn't make any noise. And, as much as I remember, Battlefield's artillery can be used only to bombard base, when enemies are taking over it while OC can be used everywhere. At least I haven't found anything, which could confirm that OC is restricted to specific area.

[Big Molio]

16 minutes ago, TheGhostFromPast said:

 

It's fun for you, but it isn't for me. Killing enemies with one shot is way too easy, because it doesn't require any efforts.

Good job you aren't obliged to use it then lol

[TheGhostFromPast]

4 minutes ago, Big Molio said:

Good job you aren't obliged to use it then lol

 

As if I wouldn't know it already!  Of course I won't buy that boring thing, which is only killing all fun in GTA:O!  But that won't stop cowards, cheaters and griefers from using OC in order to terrorize me and other players.

Edited December 23, 2019 by TheGhostFromPast

[B7R]

10 hours ago, TheGhostFromPast said:

The only reason why OC exists in GTAO  is because greedystar is hoping that players, who were obliterated with OC, will be forced to buy fish cards.

I'd argue another reason for it being in free-mode is because some players would've b*tched and moaned to Rockstar to no end to include it in the game outside of the Doomsday heist mission. 

[Black-Dragon96]

10 hours ago, NULL AND VOID said:

1. You can kill people with your eyes closed on the mk2! If you have a good memory of the map and someone directs you. "He's in mirror park behind the bathrooms. Beep beep beep. Kill.

 

2. Can't kill someone blindfolded with the OC cause you would have to run blind down the hallway..get to your control console and select a name from the list. Odds in that are lowwwww

 

3. Orbital Cannon is fun and exciting when you don't auto aim. We should stop our rivals from making money at all costs. Why the hell is buying shark cards viewed as a negative? Don't answer that. Ya'll probably know people who spend 20 or 30 dollara a month on rinky dink little mobile games. Imagine if you knew someone paying 20 dollars a month on shark cards heaven forbid??? You'd call em a loser!

 

1. I doubt that anyone (and I mean 1 single person on this planet) would be able to move about the map while being blindfoldet. 

Second of all, if the target gets out of the vehicle there is no beep-beep-bomm. There is only click-bang-ouch when the mk2 kiddo gets picked of his tumbeling broomstick by a sniper.

And most people cant even fly a bloody helicopter without crashing into atleast 15 buildings while not being blindfolded. If you would blindfold these peoole and send them out to kill a target on a 1×1 mile completly flat surface, the target would die of old age instead of getting hit.

 

2. Actually you can. Have a friend sit in his facilty and tell you the spot on the list. The list is the same for everyone so just call the clicks till, you are on target.

 

3. The orbital canon is about as fun and exciting as Fifa 19s Lootboxes were fun and exciting to the general public and about a dozen of lawmakers.

"We should stop our rivals from making money at all costs." And why exactly? What do you get from stopping another person to make money?

The feeling that daddy R* is proud of you for stopping that other guy from getting money without forking cash over into R*'s/Strauss Zelnics bankaccount?

 

And for the record, I dont know anyone who is that stupid and spends 20-30 bucks a month on a mobile game. The people I know laugh at these people.

And if I would know someone who spend 20 bucks on sharkcards every month, I would tell that person to give the 20 bucks to me along with their login data and grind them more than double what they would get for a sharkcard.

[Big Molio]

7 hours ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

What do you get from stopping another person to make money?

The feeling that daddy R* is proud of you for stopping that other guy from getting money without forking cash over into R*'s/Strauss Zelnics bank account?

A lot of players are just quitting the Freemode lobby jobs such as Headhunter, Stand Your Ground, Piracy Prevention etc as soon as they lose or start to lose them. It has got that nobody actually wants to play this game.

 

These days, if I win and they don't quit, I share out 100% of the cash winnings to them, just as a thank you for playing to the end.

 

I had three players kick me yesterday because I made them work hard to win their Stand Your Ground. I gave the best game I could give on my own against them and they actually won the thing, but still got salty about having to play for it.

 

The game has generated a bunch of entitled addicts who become furious if you interrupt their cash generation.

 

 

[TheGhostFromPast]

12 hours ago, B7R said:

I'd argue another reason for it being in free-mode is because some players would've b*tched and moaned to Rockstar to no end to include it in the game outside of the Doomsday heist mission. 

I wouldn't be surprised at all if that would've happened.

 

 

1 hour ago, Big Molio said:

The game has generated a bunch of entitled addicts who become furious if you interrupt their cash generation.

Personally I don't know anyone, who becomes furious when someone interrupts their cash generation, because they all are aware that they are playing GTA:O not something like The Sims. But I do know few people, who doesn't like OC, because it can obliterate everything with one shot and that happens without any warning. These few people I know prefer to have a PVP, which requires skills and balls. OC doesn't offer that. 

 

 

P.S.

 

Video games like GTA:O has generated a bunch of lazy and cowardly addicts, who want to destroy everything with one shot, because they are too lazy to put some efforts and too scared to face their enemy. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 24, 2019 by TheGhostFromPast

[Big Molio]

12 minutes ago, TheGhostFromPast said:

Personally I don't know anyone, who becomes furious when someone interrupts their cash generation, because they all are aware that they are playing GTA:O not something like The Sims.

Then you must be playing a different game to me, because in my experience, the amount of abuse, quitting and other petulant behaviour players exhibit when they are played and beaten at those jobs is off the scale.

 

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But I do know few people, who doesn't like OC, because it can obliterate everything with one shot and that happens without any warning. These few people I know prefer to have a PVP, which requires skills and balls. OC doesn't offer that. 

P.S.

 

Video games like GTA:O has generated a bunch of lazy and cowardly addicts, who want to destroy everything with one shot, because they are too lazy to put some efforts and too scared to face their enemy. 

 

I wasn't referring to the OC in my post bub, it was a response to a specific question about stopping people making money.

Edited December 24, 2019 by Big Molio

[Black-Dragon96]

1 hour ago, Big Molio said:

The game has generated a bunch of entitled addicts who become furious if you interrupt their cash generation.

Because the odds of winning are heavily shifted towards the attacker and the prices for the stuff that you need to fight back are utterly ridiculous.

Want to fight an MK2? Then spend multiple millions of $ on a military jet or a bunker and research to get am explo sniper or a nightclub, terrorbyte and an mk2 with upgrades.

"What you managed to win against your attacker despite your disadvantage? Then better hope he does not TP to his facility and nuke your a$$ with a 50 megaton nuclear explosion."

 

People are fed up with having to fight OP toys used by griefing idiots who got nothing better to do, for every single $.

[TheGhostFromPast]

9 minutes ago, Big Molio said:

Then you must be playing a different game to me, because in my experience, the amount of abuse, quitting and other petulant behaviour players exhibit when they are played and beaten at those jobs is off the scale.

And once again it looks like you think that your experience speaks for everyone.  Do I really have to remind you once again that you are only one of the many players in GTA:O?! Of course there are players, who will behave like that, but not everyone behaves like that.

 

9 minutes ago, Big Molio said:

I wasn't referring to the OC in my post bub, it was a response to a specific question about stopping people making money.

I was pointing out that not everyone will become furious just because their cash generation was interrupted, that sometimes it depends how you'll interrupt their cash generation. If you won't give them any chance at all to defend their cargo then don't wonder that people aren't happy about that. 

Edited December 24, 2019 by TheGhostFromPast