Igor Bogdanoff Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 How long should we wait for "era of IV fixes" ? I mean, III VC and SA got fixed and updated by great modders community, pretty much got fixed in all areas. But IV still lacks in it IMO. 3D gtas got patches around 8-10th anniversary, sadly IV is more complex and more broken so noone really wants to touch it. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edups Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 How long should we wait for "era of IV fixes" ? I mean, III VC and SA got fixed and updated by great modders community, pretty much got fixed in all areas. But IV still lacks in it IMO. 3D gtas got patches around 8-10th anniversary, sadly IV is more complex and more broken so noone really wants to touch it. B-But why?Are they scared because they 'got a lioness and want a pussy cat'. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 How long should we wait for "era of IV fixes" ? I mean, III VC and SA got fixed and updated by great modders community, pretty much got fixed in all areas. But IV still lacks in it IMO. 3D gtas got patches around 8-10th anniversary, sadly IV is more complex and more broken so noone really wants to touch it. B-But why?Are they scared because they 'got a lioness and want a pussy cat'. RenderWare vs. RAGE engine... RAGE is way way heavier and more complex than RenderWare, so I'm not surprised if there isn't any "mod fix" created by the community. Sadly if we want a good fix for the moment we have to wait Rockstar's updates, maybe in some years we'll see something like SilentPatch for IV. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryptorelic Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) R* became the only publisher I'd buy from in the past 15 years, but recently it's really turning into sh*t. Too bad, will skip RDR2 and hope for a greater GTA6 in the next five years or so. Edited April 14, 2018 by cryptorelic deathdealer, Hmmm nice bike and NightmanCometh96 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zello Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 What if they added this though? [Video] The only problem is that it wasn't a song from 2008 or before. SanLiberty 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Are they scared yes SanLiberty, AlexanderPierce, Igor Bogdanoff and 4 others 7 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderPierce Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 How long should we wait for "era of IV fixes" ? I mean, III VC and SA got fixed and updated by great modders community, pretty much got fixed in all areas. But IV still lacks in it IMO. 3D gtas got patches around 8-10th anniversary, sadly IV is more complex and more broken so noone really wants to touch it. B-But why?Are they scared because they 'got a lioness and want a pussy cat'. GTA IV has securom, guess that's the main problem. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edups Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 Are they scared yes silentpatchiv.we ned it. DOUGL4S1 and SanLiberty 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) GTA IV has securom, guess that's the main problem.SA has securom too, pretty sure III and VC retail do too. silentpatchiv.we ned it.What's wrong with the game? Edited April 14, 2018 by Silent SanLiberty and Igor Bogdanoff 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edups Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 silentpatchiv.we ned it. What's wrong with the game? V-Sync broken on Patches 6 and 7,performance issues,certain shadows missing from patch 8,out of commision 60fps bug,grainy night shadows,yada yada yada im out of ideas. (all i want is fixed v-sync and better fps) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Bogdanoff Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 patch 8 fixes at least two of those things SanLiberty 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravarty Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) The recoil bug is also a big issue in GTA IV, i know there's a "fix" for it, but then the recoil is tremendously broken with a controller.. and i like to switch between keyboard/mouse and controller while playing the game also cutscenes tend to break if you play it on 60 FPS Yep, this happens on 1.0.8.0 Edited April 14, 2018 by Gravarty Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edups Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 patch 8 fixes at least two of those things lol I know,but not many mods work,so putting these fixes on older patches will still be a good idea. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Bogdanoff Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 i know even better idea bring those mods to newer patch wow Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceJunk Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Was this already implemented? I haven't played IV in two months and when I loaded it up today there was an update, I backed out before it finished. I'll download TBOGT tomorrow to get that soundtrack too if the update didn't happen already. How do you disable automatic updates on the Xbox 360? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edups Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 i know even better ideabring those mods to newer patchwoweven better,fix patch 8 along with bringing over mods. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Improving performance wouldn't even be trivial, as performance profiling without sources* for binaries is usually tricky and hard to get right. * Profiling with sources isn't exactly easy too. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtafaninwest Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Rockstar and Take-Two are a joke. Rockstar and Take-Two aren't jokes. You're weird, do the housers or Strauss zelnick f*ck you or something? What? Do you really defend Rockstar and T2? Probably in this case it isn't much their fault, but with all the money they gained from GTA Online they could at least renovate the licences this time... Rockstar is changing a lot, probably, if it wasn't for GTA Online, we would wait for GTA VI this year (or 2019).Sadly, most game companies are going down the tube. Hey, while Rockstar is at it how about adding the weapons from TLAD & TBoGT to vanilla IV... I wanna run around with Niko carrying that big ass Heavy MG from TBoGT. If licensing weren't a problem, it would have been amazing to finally merge the vanilla, DLC, and EFLC exclusive tracks together while we're at it. But that's looking to be a pipe dream at this point. Of all the money Cockstar has in the world... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zello Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Rockstar and Take-Two are a joke. Rockstar and Take-Two aren't jokes. You're weird, do the housers or Strauss zelnick f*ck you or something? What? Do you really defend Rockstar and T2? Probably in this case it isn't much their fault, but with all the money they gained from GTA Online they could at least renovate the licences this time... Rockstar is changing a lot, probably, if it wasn't for GTA Online, we would wait for GTA VI this year (or 2019).Hussein Sonic is a troll jaljax 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtafaninwest Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Some of you might remember the debacle around the OpenIV cease and desist. If we actually want Take2 to attempt to renegotiate the licenses for the music we should make our voices heard. This is a bad PR incident waiting to happen. I've already seen some in this very thread expressing an attitude of "what's the point in buying it if 10 years later it isn't what I bought anymore". We need to channel that and make this a bad PR incident. Then maybe they'll reconsider. Of course we still might not get all the tracks to stay...but "alot" of Vladivostok screams "we're not even going to bother to try". This case is very, veeeeeeery different. Back in the OpenIV case the C&D against the OpenIV team prompted the community to start writing negative reviews about the game on Steam. The flow of negative reviews was so big it actually affected the game's "rating", which was pretty high before the scandal. And this was -and still is- Rockstar and Take Two's stellar product, and having tons of bad community reviews on the same page where they sell the game for PC was definitely more harmful than what they originally intended to chase down, the possibility of exploiting GTA Online through OpenIV which was non-existant at all. So they had to trace their steps back. This showed extraordinarily well that the Take Two execs simply do not care about their customers at all, they wanted to prevent any sort of possibility of losing income without giving a damn if their measures were actually effective or not. They ended up shooting themsevles in the foot. This is a completely different story. IV is a nearly 10 year old game, and obviously with its reputation among casual gamers, it simply doesn't sell nowhere near as good as GTA V. If the people start making negative reviews about the upcoming changes, I can assure you it will never be as massive as the amount of repudiation Take Two received with the Open IV case. I believe mostly what Spider-Vice said, probably most of these licensing contracts were never meant to be renewable. We all know that if the contracts were renewable, Rockstar definitely has the money to renew them, but maybe that's simply not possible. GTA IV may not be that popular among the mainstream crowds but it's important to remember the context here. This is about more than IV. In another 5 years GTA V will be 10 years old (they grow up so fast) and it will be getting exactly the same treatment. They do have other options. If they can't renegotiate the licenses and thus can no-longer sell IV in its original form then the right course of action is not to butcher the current release that people have already purchased, expecting the complete product, but to pull it from sale on steam and re-release a mutilated version as they did with Vice City.Mainstream which consists of children today who have nothing better but to play Online and moronic teens who continuously buys Cockstar's shark cards. This just proves that Rockstar sh*ts on GTA IV and it's fans. They don't give a flying f*ck about us and would love to force us to play GTA sh*tline and pay them for Shark Cards or something. I have stayed at 1.0.7.0 and never bothered updating, and I won't. f*cking greedy capitalists. Hey, while Rockstar is at it how about adding the weapons from TLAD & TBoGT to vanilla IV... I wanna run around with Niko carrying that big ass Heavy MG from TBoGT. You gotta be kidding. Cockstar would NEVER do that They've long abandoned their original fan base. UltraGizmo64, Darealbandicoot, Jeansowaty and 3 others 6 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edups Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 This just proves that Rockstar sh*ts on GTA IV and it's fans. They don't give a flying f*ck about us and would love to force us to play GTA sh*tline and pay them for Shark Cards or something. I have stayed at 1.0.7.0 and never bothered updating, and I won't. f*cking greedy capitalists. Hey, while Rockstar is at it how about adding the weapons from TLAD & TBoGT to vanilla IV... I wanna run around with Niko carrying that big ass Heavy MG from TBoGT. You gotta be kidding. Cockstar would NEVER do that They've long abandoned their original fan base. Agreed.All they care now about is shark cards and money coming from 5yr olds. NightmanCometh96, Jeansowaty, Darealbandicoot and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Dawg Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) The recoil bug is also a big issue in GTA IV, i know there's a "fix" for it, but then the recoil is tremendously broken with a controller.. and i like to switch between keyboard/mouse and controller while playing the game also cutscenes tend to break if you play it on 60 FPS Yep, this happens on 1.0.8.0 I don't ever recall bulletspread getting screwed up on the controller when playing with the Bulletspread fix, although I only ever played with the fix on 1070, so maybe it's a 1080 issue then? Edited April 15, 2018 by B Dawg Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Too bad, will skip RDR2 People often say but don't follow. I'd like to see this time many people to actually walk the talk and make Rockstar realise that fans are not going to take everything they throw at their feet. I was planning to pre-order RDR2 when they announced it back in 2016, but now I decided that I'll wait a little bit after its release to see how it really is. A few years ago I would have pre-ordered a Rockstar's game immediately, without even thinking, but now I can't say the same thing. Rockstar is becoming the new Ubisoft/EA, I don't like at all this "Games as Services" model. I'm very curious to see how they'll implement microtransactions in RDR2, I'm ready to spend 80€ on a "Megalodon Bullet Ultra Wonderful Card" for buying new horses and "upgrade" them in a sort of LSC. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmmm nice bike Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 I was planning to pre-order RDR2 when they announced it back in 2016, but now I decided that I'll wait a little bit after its release to see how it really is. A few years ago I would have pre-ordered a Rockstar's game immediately, without even thinking, but now I can't say the same thing. Rockstar is becoming the new Ubisoft/EA, I don't like at all this "Games as Services" model. I'm very curious to see how they'll implement microtransactions in RDR2, I'm ready to spend 80€ on a "Megalodon Bullet Ultra Wonderful Card" for buying new horses and "upgrade" them in a sort of LSC. Agreed. I won't be skipping Red Dead 2, but I probably won't be pre-ordering it and paying full price once it's first out. After seeing Take Two and Rockstar's new model in place with GTA and how Take Two has said that they want to make more games that specifically focus on microtransactions and how to get people to keep spending money even after paying for the game, I'm not looking forward to seeing how much they force "Red Dead Online" or if they push single player aside for multiplayer yet again. Ivan1997GTA and Lock n' Stock 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070190792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darealbandicoot Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 I was planning to pre-order RDR2 when they announced it back in 2016, but now I decided that I'll wait a little bit after its release to see how it really is. A few years ago I would have pre-ordered a Rockstar's game immediately, without even thinking, but now I can't say the same thing. Rockstar is becoming the new Ubisoft/EA, I don't like at all this "Games as Services" model. I'm very curious to see how they'll implement microtransactions in RDR2, I'm ready to spend 80 on a "Megalodon Bullet Ultra Wonderful Card" for buying new horses and "upgrade" them in a sort of LSC. Agreed. I won't be skipping Red Dead 2, but I probably won't be pre-ordering it and paying full price once it's first out. After seeing Take Two and Rockstar's new model in place with GTA and how Take Two has said that they want to make more games that specifically focus on microtransactions and how to get people to keep spending money even after paying for the game, I'm not looking forward to seeing how much they force "Red Dead Online" or if they push single player aside for multiplayer yet again.You know well they will. Scrooge Zelnick wants microtransactions in EVERY game going forward and even admitted that he believes loot boxes are harmless. I'm also not pre ordering OR buying RDR2 and that's a promise. That is unless it's a masterpiece and NOT downgraded and has features moved to or pushed aside for the garbage cash grab online. Ivan1997GTA 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070191343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonDolphin Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Burnout Paradise is 3 months older but EA is keeping all the songs for the remaster. EA > R* Darealbandicoot, D9fred95, LavenYeo and 8 others 11 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070191630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Dawg Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Burnout Paradise is 3 months older but EA is keeping all the songs for the remaster. EA > R* What a funny world we live in NightmanCometh96, Los Santos citizen, Darealbandicoot and 6 others 9 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070191690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Too bad, will skip RDR2 People often say but don't follow. I'd like to see this time many people to actually walk the talk and make Rockstar realise that fans are not going to take everything they throw at their feet. Easy for me because I don't care for RDR. Also easy because I don't buy Shark Cards and by the time GTA VI comes out I'll probably be far too busy to care. wacky woohoo pizza man, Jeansowaty and Am Shaegar 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070191899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARKUS. Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 All this previous posts reminds me of... 2013: GTA V will not have realistic steak - preorder cancelled 2012: GTA V main character is too old and fat - preorder cancelled GTA V has an ugly character - preorder cancelled 2008 GTA IV will not have drivable planes - preorder cancelled GTA IV will not have character customization - preorder cancelled 2007 GTA IV is set in Liberty City - preorder cancelled GTA IV has an old-drama-ugly character - preorder cancelled GTA IV is not even able to preorder yet - preorder cancelled —————- Still this games have beaten records. #FACT wacky woohoo pizza man, Frito-Man and Lock n' Stock 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070191986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9fred95 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Burnout Paradise is 3 months older but EA is keeping all the songs for the remaster. EA > R* You know you're screwing up when EA is doing something positively better than you. Archangel0934, AlexanderPierce, Lock n' Stock and 10 others 13 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/6/#findComment-1070192003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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