Gravarty Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) Then again, can mute the music in the game and listen to the oringal music on your computer? thought of that? No? Why, because you and everybody else is just mopping and moaning over this whole ordeal. Why on earth would you listen to the soundtrack on PC like this while playing the game? Then you have to start/pause the tracks everytime you get out of the car and get back in? Also this ruins the feeling of having a real radio station in the game. Also you can no longer hear other NPC's listen to that station. Edited April 29, 2018 by Gravarty Journey_95, UltraGizmo64, -KM- and 8 others 11 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070212421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiroVette Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 I hadn't thought of it until the second I finished reading your post, but you may be predicting precisely how things will unfold in 5 years time. The fact of the matter is that V is a cash cow for shark card sales, and GTAO shows absolutely no sign of slowing down at all. I can definitely see Online going another few years, maybe even forcing Rockstar to continue rolling out the updates and milking the shark card sales, perhaps even up until GTA VI launches. If so, they would feel obliged to pay for the renewal of the music licensure. They should do it for IV and the Episodes just out of cusomtomer loyalty, BUT I am thinking now, after reading your post, that they will renew the music for V out of necessity. Exactly my point. Funny to see you in the IV section since you've been replying here for a while. I thought you hated IV's guts I mean, lmao your signature. This is bigger than V vs IV though. IV driving vs V driving or light hearted vs dark and gritty are matters of opinion but nobody should have a game they already paid for butchered like this. That is something the entire GTA community should agree on and they probably will butcher V when VI comes out. 100% my point! This issue is much bigger than debates over fanboy allegiance to a specific GTA or the teasing and trash talking that goes on in the V section. My feelings about IV or IV vs V are completely irrelevant to this issue. This is about the GTA community being screwed over, once again, by the rapacious, corporate avarice of a juggernaut of a company more concerned with shark card sales than good customer service. Matt_STS, CarsonGT, LowTierDude and 3 others 6 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070212495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Se7en-Rus Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 I've reorganized my Xbox 360 data to have my episodic DLC on a USB drive. Is there a way to make a backup copy of this? It lets you transfer to USB but then you still just have one copy. How do you make a spare that will work if the originals are corrupted? It is possible to copy files from Xbox 360 USB drive to PC, and vice versa to restore from the backup. Look for GTA IV episodes at: \Content\0000000000000000\545407F2\00000002\B66716ED23BE790FCF1210AB932119501DC7405E54 (TLaD) \Content\0000000000000000\545407F2\00000002\C7CE183800831B6FF277AAFC71B9B904C676354154 (TBoGT) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070212813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Who tf is this Fuzz clown? NeonDolphin 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070212870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VollgasPilot Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) So when is Cockstar bringing an update to fix the messed up translations ? They just had to replace the song names and even failed that slight change. Edited April 29, 2018 by VollgasPilot Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070213153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acetaminophen Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Are disc based ones affected? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070213222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_CP_ Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Probably never. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070213223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haruko Haruhara Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 I just booted up EFLC, and San Juan Sounds just doesn't feel the same anymore....there are only 4 songs standing. Schachmatt777, lol232 and XxElBigMex913xX 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070213225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zanesix Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 4 in TOTAL? Jesus, and I remember in pre-patch TBOGT hearing the same songs over and over again... Schachmatt777, Haruko Haruhara and lol232 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070213230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acetaminophen Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 I just booted up EFLC, and San Juan Sounds just doesn't feel the same anymore....there are only 4 songs standing. I'm playing EFLC on PS3 and there was no update. So maybe disc based GTA4+EFLC don't need to update? Haruko Haruhara 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070213232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zanesix Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 The disc versions don't get the update, only digital. VollgasPilot, Haruko Haruhara and Acetaminophen 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070213233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acetaminophen Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 The disc versions don't get the update, only digital. Is that confirmed? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070213235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
At_six Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Hi guys, I have updated my GTA IV Steam version and just now I found out what the latest "patch" was all about. Fortunately, I have a full backup of both GTA IV and EFLC folders. Can I just replace the current folder with my backup? Or should I just install George's downgraders? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070213260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zanesix Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Is that confirmed? Yeah, by multiple people here a few pages back. Hi guys, I have updated my GTA IV Steam version and just now I found out what the latest "patch" was all about. Fortunately, I have a full backup of both GTA IV and EFLC folders. Can I just replace the current folder with my backup? Or should I just install George's downgraders? It doesn't really matter, you get the same thing either way. It would probably be easier to just replace with your backups. At_six and Acetaminophen 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070213293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
At_six Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Hi guys, I have updated my GTA IV Steam version and just now I found out what the latest "patch" was all about. Fortunately, I have a full backup of both GTA IV and EFLC folders. Can I just replace the current folder with my backup? Or should I just install George's downgraders? It doesn't really matter, you get the same thing either way. It would probably be easier to just replace with your backups. OK, thanks. But after replacing the folders with the backups, would I need to set Steam to offline mode before starting the game? Wouldn't Steam try to download the latest updated files if I start the game while Steam in online? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070213313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollschuh2282 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Hi guys, I have updated my GTA IV Steam version and just now I found out what the latest "patch" was all about. Fortunately, I have a full backup of both GTA IV and EFLC folders. Can I just replace the current folder with my backup? Or should I just install George's downgraders? It doesn't really matter, you get the same thing either way. It would probably be easier to just replace with your backups. OK, thanks. But after replacing the folders with the backups, would I need to set Steam to offline mode before starting the game? Wouldn't Steam try to download the latest updated files if I start the game while Steam in online? nope, steam doesn´t check all the files on the game startup to see if they are outdated. steam just reads the installscript.vdf to see if the current version is a outdated version. this means: if you made the update and then replace the audio folder, steam won´t notice it At_six 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070213320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
At_six Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 nope, steam doesn´t check all the files on the game startup to see if they are outdated. steam just reads the installscript.vdf to see if the current version is a outdated version. this means: if you made the update and then replace the audio folder, steam won´t notice it I see, thanks for the help! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070213327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfury9 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 I have GTA 4 GTA EFLC and GTA 4 CE all of which are Physical copies are any of the soundtrack changes going to effect me? Since I have never played any of those titles Online? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070213684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan1997GTA Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 I have GTA 4 GTA EFLC and GTA 4 CE all of which are Physical copies are any of the soundtrack changes going to effect me? Since I have never played any of those titles Online? Lucky for owners of the physical copies, no. As long as you're playing the game on the original consoles (Xbox 360 or PS3) offline, you'll be fine. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070213782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyTheMan Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Wow. Just wow. Rockstar has changed to one of the greediest and disgusting companies out there over the recent years and I'm really worried what the future beholds, I'm afraid the good times are over and all we can do is to enjoy their older creations with the help of user-made modifications to retain their originality. On a side note, if I were to buy GTA IV from Steam now would there be some patches already that revert the game back to it's original self? I don't care if I can't play the online of the game anyway as it's most likely dead. Then again, I am starting playing the series from the beginning so I wont be playing GTA IV for a while yet anyway. PeterParkerHUMANSPIDER, NightmanCometh96, Haruko Haruhara and 5 others 8 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070215410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zanesix Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) On a side note, if I were to buy GTA IV from Steam now would there be some patches already that revert the game back to it's original self? I don't care if I can't play the online of the game anyway as it's most likely dead. Then again, I am starting playing the series from the beginning so I wont be playing GTA IV for a while yet anyway. Yes, to restore songs there's already a IV/EFLC Radio "Downgrader" and you can downgrade to the most commonly used patch 7 from Rockstar's website. Edited May 1, 2018 by zanesix Haruko Haruhara 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070215434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyTheMan Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Allright, and does using these downgraders block achievements from Windows Live? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070215467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lol232 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) Sun Juan is f*cking awful, who listens to that anyway? /s What pisses me off much more that Rockstar didn't mention anything about IV's anniversary. f*ck them. Edited May 1, 2018 by lol232 Haruko Haruhara, 78 lil red express, Olanov and 4 others 7 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070215474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olanov Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I have GTA 4 GTA EFLC and GTA 4 CE all of which are Physical copies are any of the soundtrack changes going to effect me? Since I have never played any of those titles Online? Lucky for owners of the physical copies, no. As long as you're playing the game on the original consoles (Xbox 360 or PS3) offline, you'll be fine. They seem to be fine online, too. I have yet to get any updates on those platforms. PS3 for me. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070215743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonDolphin Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Sun Juan is f*cking awful, who listens to that anyway? /s More people than you think. Awesome station. Haruko Haruhara, Hmmm nice bike, XxElBigMex913xX and 4 others 7 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070215771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock n' Stock Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) A little late to the party but...they f*cking did it didn't they? They replaced the entirity of Vladivostok (including 'King Ring'), one of the stations that virtually MADE the game's atmosphere, all because they're a bunch of lazy assholes who can't be bothered to renew the licences. Just to be safe, there's not a chance I'm installing the latest update. Edited May 1, 2018 by Lock n' Stock Hmmm nice bike, -KM-, LowTierDude and 4 others 7 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070216086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmmm nice bike Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Pretty much the entirety of Vladivostok FM got replaced with music that's fairly unremarkable compared to what used to be on there (and some were even made after 2008, I guess they don't care about continuity). It's still funny how they apparently can't work on licensing the original tracks again, but they're alright on licensing new songs. Rockstar Logic. Liberty Rock Radio, Vice City FM and San Juan Sounds also took a few hits and had more great tracks removed. I'm just glad I still have the game on a 360 that's not connected to the internet, so they can't force me to update anything. Lock n' Stock, Haruko Haruhara, Jeansowaty and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070216138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olanov Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) Sun Juan is f*cking awful, who listens to that anyway? /s More people than you think. Awesome station. You might've missed it, but the "/s" indicates sarcasm. GTA IV, EFLC, those were games where I can honestly say I actually enjoyed most of the music there. Edited May 1, 2018 by Olanov Haruko Haruhara and lol232 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070216189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darealbandicoot Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Pretty much the entirety of Vladivostok FM got replaced with music that's fairly unremarkable compared to what used to be on there (and some were even made after 2008, I guess they don't care about continuity). It's still funny how they apparently can't work on licensing the original tracks again, but they're alright on licensing new songs. Rockstar Logic. Liberty Rock Radio, Vice City FM and San Juan Sounds also took a few hits and had more great tracks removed. I'm just glad I still have the game on a 360 that's not connected to the internet, so they can't force me to update anything. Good thing disc copies on 360 are unaffected Hmmm nice bike, Ivan1997GTA and Lock n' Stock 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070216591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxElBigMex913xX Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Nay, East Los FM is way f*cking awful than San Juan, Both versions of San Juan had way better mixes than that station to be honest with you. Sun Juan is f*cking awful, who listens to that anyway? /s JimFitzgeraldBiker, Haruko Haruhara, ROCKSTAR MANIC and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/33/#findComment-1070217381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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