N69 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) So, PS3 PSN versions got updated too. GTA IV Old size 10.27 GB. New size 10.17 GB GTA EFLC Old size 7.81 GB. New size 7.72 GB I'm not sure what version you get, if try redownload game from PSN account. PS. I'm sure, Rockstar will not release any cut songs updates for physical versions on 360, PS3 and most likely PC too. For store version, in 360. If you redownload game from Xbox Live you got cut version. Edited April 27, 2018 by N69 UltraGizmo64 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
logoutgames1 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Is it possible for someone (probably a modder) to create a downgrader for GTA IV, that would bring the old songs back (keeping the new songs would be nice too XD) and fix the issues with the patch? (The new patch broke my game and it simply blackscreens). Edited April 27, 2018 by lazygamer3210 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rockstar Gamer 108 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I didn't update the game. I won't update it in future neither. Gnocchi Flip Flops 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatSafeMurderer Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Is it possible for someone (probably a modder) to create a downgrader for GTA IV, that would bring the old songs back and fix the issues with the patch? (The new patch broke my game and it simply blackscreens).Already done for PC. Posted a few pages back. Not to mention that (for now atleast) you can use Steam's console with the download_depot command to download the delta of the new and the old patch...or indeed just the unchanged 1.0.8.0 in its entirety... Edited April 27, 2018 by MeatSafeMurderer Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetectivePhelps Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Ive officially lost it with this corporate c-ck snobs! YES! I know its licensing copyright music issues, blah, blah spare me the paper talk! As an Xb1 ower I deinstalled EFLC & IV! I have a remarkable xb360 with no internet because the hell for?!! I installed EFLC & IV. I sign in my profile & played out a few...TF is wrong with this shark card cocain company?!?! Sorry Im ranting but I payed $$ for this as it was, so R*, Them! They could have worked out a deal, re-new and in the process both the artist or bigger Picture here, record company & fans who suppport R* would all be happy. After allll the money they made from online V, jeez man, clearly they are greedy and I swear I will not buy sh!t from thfm, no cowboys & Indian prequel. The last game I had bought from them was LA Noire...Now after this epic slap in the co-k from them removing songs like David Bowie, man no respect! Im done with all this. IV was & is one of the greatest games ever made! Ino longer support Rockstar games. As Niko said; So this is what the American dreams feels like! Done. PeterParkerHUMANSPIDER and logoutgames1 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
logoutgames1 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Is it possible for someone (probably a modder) to create a downgrader for GTA IV, that would bring the old songs back and fix the issues with the patch? (The new patch broke my game and it simply blackscreens). Already done for PC. Posted a few pages back. Not to mention that (for now atleast) you can use Steam's console with the download_depot command to download the delta of the new and the old patch...or indeed just the unchanged 1.0.8.0 in its entirety... I tried the audio mod, but for some reason, only commercials play on Vladivostok, I guess I will wait until a mod that works comes up. Or since I new here how can I download the 1.0.8.0 patch? Ivan1997GTA 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash_735 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Forget, man: people here are doing nothing but trying to accuse Rockstar of the next thing. And it'd be absolutely fine if they complained about the real things. As I already wrote here, they must've had some renewing issues as many other songs have remained in the game. But yeah, GTA Forums dudes always know better. The localization f*ckup is surely one, however, that's what we've always been getting from Rockstar – their games always suck technically as well as updates. But the issue ISN'T that they've lost songs, yes that happens, it sucks, it's HOW Rockstar then decide to be lazy and just patch it out of ALL copies, that's the issue, most of us own GTA IV now so if they did the right thing, we wouldn't be affected. It's down to Rockstar not wanting to branch builds because they're just that lazy for some reason, here's how literally EVERYONE ELSE does it... STUB 1: Full Game with ALL SONGS ------------------------------------------------- LICENCE EXPIRES ------------------------------------- STUB 1 gets delisted, will no longer be sold, STUB 2 gets put in place. STUB 2: Full Game with some songs removed Anyone who buys the game AFTER the licence expires would get STUB 2, those who purchased the game BEFORE the licence expires would still get STUB 1. The downside to this is that the developer would now have to maintain TWO branches incase any further updates are done to the games code/EXE/etc (which let's be honest, considering they didn't do any changes in this build, just mess up some text files, I doubt we're going to see more patches for IV). This is how the rest of the industry does it, some even maintaining multiple stubs and builds through Steam. Rockstar even did it right, sort of, once with Vice City, where there's different versions of the game on Steam depending on when you bought it, if you owned it before the licence expired, you still get to keep that version with all the music, if you purchased it after that expiration then you got the version with some songs removed. However at some point they messed up the switch and NOW if you buy Vice City, you'll get the full version. With San Andreas they messed it up royally by removing the songs for EVERYONE (just like with IV) but attempted to restore that by having the original radio as DLC for those who owned the game before they lost the licence, but again, something messed up and they never released it. NightmanCometh96, WildBrick142, GypsyYT and 10 others 13 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWIST_OF_HATE Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Good to see last reviews on Steam, GTA IV rating just falls. VollgasPilot, NightmanCometh96 and NeonDolphin 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GypsyYT Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 This is a really sh*tty situation for everyone and I too am somewhat angry about it, however it's not that big of a deal for most players. I'm pretty sure if you're on console you could just delete the update or choose not to install it. And if you're on PC you can install an old patch. Most people don't play this game online anyways so the only people this really effects are the small percentage of people that do these days. Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember being able to delete updates back when I had an Xbox 360 by deleting the cache or something? UltraGizmo64 and DEMO1209 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimFitzgeraldBiker Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 This is a really sh*tty situation for everyone and I too am somewhat angry about it, however it's not that big of a deal for most players. I'm pretty sure if you're on console you could just delete the update or choose not to install it. And if you're on PC you can install an old patch. Most people don't play this game online anyways so the only people this really effects are the small percentage of people that do these days. Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember being able to delete updates back when I had an Xbox 360 by deleting the cache or something?Yes you can delete patches in Xbox 360, however i don't remember what you got to delete since it was a long time since i played on a Xbox 360. Anyway, is the patch ready for PS3? That way I can avoid it. (Again, I got the Complete Edition) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiroVette Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Good to see last reviews on Steam, GTA IV rating just falls. I am going to create some spite ratings for GTA IV and EfLC as well on Steam. Just grade them one star each and hope that collectively people on PSN and LIVE do it as well and that we can create the same kind of backlash that we did when Rockstar went on a Jihad against the modders. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.K.N. Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 And yet R* won't remove DRM and the since-defunct Games for Windows Live for the PC version of a 10-year old game. Goes to show how lazy devs can be. Not to mention that they don't want to renew expired songs, despite the fact that they've earned $6 billion from GTA V alone for the sake of GTA Online. NeonDolphin, DingoPachinko, Ivan1997GTA and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetectivePhelps Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Reality check & details! People are pissed. As for me? I have another console, oldie but no way im downloading GB of all that on my xb1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashRatchet008 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Any confirmation on the availability of the patch for console users? I just recently bought EFLC for PS3 and I have yet to install it on my console...don't want the original tracks patched out of the game. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zolika1351 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Thank god for the fact that the patch didn't have a new EXE, this way we can play MP with people who have it while we still have the old songs Edited April 27, 2018 by Zolika1351 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygrowls Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 By the way? V fans should also be concerned about this since that game just hit the 5 year old mark, or will in a few months. Time passes VERY FAST, and soon we will all be railing against Take2 yet again, 5 years down the line, for the very same reason. So anyone who thinks that their feelings about IV or V or that their allegiance to a game in the series has ANYTHING to do with this discussion, better think again. oh no, rockstar won't hurt their baby that is GTA V/Online, they'll renew the licenses for that, as long as it keeps making them money Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VollgasPilot Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) So when does Cockstar bring the update for the f*cked up graphics menue? (except english language) And when do they fix the existing graphical bugs like AMD water bug? Instead of messing around with CarsonGT these idiots should fix their stuff Edited April 27, 2018 by VollgasPilot Igor Bogdanoff, LavenYeo and NightmanCometh96 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOUGL4S1 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 By the way? V fans should also be concerned about this since that game just hit the 5 year old mark, or will in a few months. Time passes VERY FAST, and soon we will all be railing against Take2 yet again, 5 years down the line, for the very same reason. So anyone who thinks that their feelings about IV or V or that their allegiance to a game in the series has ANYTHING to do with this discussion, better think again. oh no, rockstar won't hurt their baby that is GTA V/Online, they'll renew the licenses for that, as long as it keeps making them money In 5 years GTA Online won't be anywhere near the top of Rockstar's priority list. Red Dead Online will be well established and maybe another GTA will be available, or at least be very close to release. Ivan1997GTA 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zolika1351 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) funfact: new songs in vladivostok are using hex codes, just like in gta 5 They just don't have a name that OpenIV recognizes (they're all encoded/encrypted/whatever). The songs do have actual names: ADD_SPEED└── ADD_SPEED_LEFT└── ADD_SPEED_RIGHTBEGO_RANCHO_SONG //this isn't a typo└── BEGU_RANCHO_SONG_LEFT└── BEGU_RANCHO_SONG_RIGHTCHIKI└── CHIKI_LEFT└── CHIKI_RIGHTHOT_SUMMER└── HOT_SUMMER_LEFT└── HOT_SUMMER_RIGHTKARAOKE└── KARAOKE_LEFT└── KARAOKE_RIGHTMON_AMI└── MON_AMI_LEFT└── MON_AMI_RIGHTNOCHJU└── NOCHJU_LEFT└── NOCHJU_RIGHTPLAY└── PLAY_LEFT└── PLAY_RIGHTREPREZENTY└── REPREZENTY_LEFT└── REPREZENTY_RIGHTRIFFMASTER_TONY└── RIFFMASTER_TONY_LEFT└── RIFFMASTER_TONY_RIGHTUNDERGROUND└── UNDERGROUND_LEFT└── UNDERGROUND_RIGHTThe ones with "_left" and "_right" go into AudioTracks.txt, ones without go into strings/archives/RPF3/radio_vladivostok.rpf.txt if anybody wants to have a complete list of names or something. How do you even edit AudioTracks.txt? I tried using a text editor but it's just gibberish, also do I need to do this to export the songs to wav? Because that isn't working right now EDIT: Nevermind, somehow my export folder is unwritable, my HDD is probably dying (the AudioTracks.txt file is still gibberish though) Edited April 27, 2018 by Zolika1351 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp1dell Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Reality check & details! -snip- People are pissed. As for me? I have another console, oldie but no way im downloading GB of all that on my xb1 Off topic, but does anyone know where that thumbnail screenshot comes from? Whatever timecyc or ENB that is looks really nice IMO. Jeansowaty 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sami Uso Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Reality check & details! -snip- People are pissed. As for me? I have another console, oldie but no way im downloading GB of all that on my xb1 Off topic, but does anyone know where that thumbnail screenshot comes from? Whatever timecyc or ENB that is looks really nice IMO. I remember seeing that years ago and someone saying that was just a prerendered screenshot, like from blender or something. cp1dell 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 So it isn't 100% R*'s fault on this. Forget, man: people here are doing nothing but trying to accuse Rockstar of the next thing. And it'd be absolutely fine if they complained about the real things. As I already wrote here, they must've had some renewing issues as many other songs have remained in the game. But yeah, GTA Forums dudes always know better. The localization f*ckup is surely one, however, that's what we've always been getting from Rockstar – their games always suck technically as well as updates.I guess Rockstar can do no wrong in your eyes. How many times do they have to f*ck up for you to see it? Ain't enough being a fanboy in the world to take this sh*t. The only reason some people take this sh*t is because of the name of the game and the company that makes it. Matt_STS, B Dawg, D9fred95 and 4 others 7 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEMO1209 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Bad. Edited November 21, 2022 by DEMO1209 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomilovSenya Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) I guess Rockstar can do no wrong in your eyes. How many times do they have to f*ck up for you to see it? Ain't enough being a fanboy in the world to take this sh*t. The only reason some people take this sh*t is because of the name of the game and the company that makes it. Nice, another weirdo calling me a fanboy. Aren't you that Roger Murtaugh on YouTube? What should I see? That their games are a piece of sh*tty code? That I see. However, I've only got this branches thing Ash told me about. Rockstar are surely aware that the PC players will downgrade the game unofficially, which most of us did, so what's the big deal anyway? Edited April 27, 2018 by TomilovSenya Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatSafeMurderer Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Rockstar are surely aware that the PC players will downgrade the game unofficially, which most of us did, so what's the big deal anyway?Because PC players aren't the only ones out there. For many console players deleting the patch may not even be an option...and even if they can unlike on PC they DO have to sacrifice online....not only that but nobody should have to. They should have rereleased it in neutered form rather than neutering the copy I bought. NeonDolphin, UltraGizmo64 and HigorSM 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycek Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) I just leave it here for all these people who thought R* will bring something special for tenth anniversary of the GTA IV. (thankfully I am a realist). Edited April 27, 2018 by Tycek AndyGanteks, TheOriginalGunslinger, PeterParkerHUMANSPIDER and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdogg4089 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Reality check & details! People are pissed. As for me? I have another console, oldie but no way im downloading GB of all that on my xb1 GTA 4 remastered is already on PC. Edited April 27, 2018 by Jdogg4089 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectorlo Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I installed the game on Xbox One like a year ago and i'm pretty there's been an update sitting there for many months. I'll check it out later tonight (without updating) to see what happens. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterParkerHUMANSPIDER Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Reality check & details! People are pissed. As for me? I have another console, oldie but no way im downloading GB of all that on my xb1 GTA 4 remastered is already on PC. Listen, maybe you're not supposed to be genius posting those comments? That's why you keep falling. You'll always have a choice Jdogg.The optimisation, feels good(not)... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatSafeMurderer Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Reality check & details! -snip- People are pissed. As for me? I have another console, oldie but no way im downloading GB of all that on my xb1 GTA 4 remastered is already on PC. Listen, maybe you're not supposed to be genius posting those comments? That's why you keep falling. You'll always have a choice Jdogg. The optimisation, feels good(not)... Hey hey, be fair to it. It can maintain 60FPS now...most of the time... Edited April 27, 2018 by MeatSafeMurderer Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/28/#findComment-1070209465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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