zero..kewl Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 did none of you read the article, the songs being removed are also being replaced.. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 did none of you read the article, the songs being removed are also being replaced.. did you not read the thread, we discussed why thats still a problem.. Big_Smiley, AlexanderPierce, Lock n' Stock and 3 others 6 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9fred95 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 did none of you read the article, the songs being removed are also being replaced.. Replacing GTA IV's songs with new ones is essentially the same as Greedo shooting first. Hybrid_Punk, Lock n' Stock and NeonDolphin 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycek Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) They will replace songs with static and put the blame on technical problems of Vladivostok FM. Edited April 11, 2018 by Tycek Samwell, Lock n' Stock, Igor Bogdanoff and 3 others 6 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonDolphin Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 did none of you read the article, the songs being removed are also being replaced.. Replacement is not an option. When I wanted extra songs I used Independence FM. AlexanderPierce 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zello Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) My 360 was never connected to the internet so the best way to avoid it would be to take it offline. Edited April 11, 2018 by Zello ROCKSTAR MANIC, AlexanderPierce and Lock n' Stock 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 If this update is just about the removal and replacement of a good portion of the soundtrack and the ability to play multiplayer I won't install it, I won't even think about it. I didn't even install the latest patch because of mods. I'd rather play my game with the mods I have installed than multiplayer anyway. I'm sticking with 1.0.7.0. It angers me just to think about what Rockstar is doing to their games. It's like they don't even care anymore about their past creations. Vice City and San Andreas' 10th anniversary were already bad, but since I have a physical copy of every GTA I never had to deal with this sort of situation - except on mobile but I don't play them that much anyway. Now what's next? In 2023 GTA V will suffer from this as well? Same goes for III/Vice City/San Andreas/IV's 20th anniversaries? and so on? Are other games affected by this? Or is it only a Rockstar kind of thing to remove songs from a 10 year old game due to expired licenses? ROCKSTAR MANIC, AlexanderPierce, Lock n' Stock and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmmm nice bike Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) They will replace songs with static and put the blame on technical problems of Vladivostok FM.To be fair, that might actually be more realistic! Real life radio stations like Vladivostok FM are not usually high power radio stations and you wouldn't hear much but static outside of the area they broadcast from anyway. Edited April 11, 2018 by Hmmm nice bike Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOUGL4S1 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Are other games affected by this? Or is it only a Rockstar kind of thing to remove songs from a 10 year old game due to expired licenses? Every form of media is affected by this. It's illegal to distribute anything with unlicensed music: video-games, movies, TV shows, etc, you name it. Alan Wake, a 2010 game, was pulled out of sale last year because the license for its songs expired after a 7-year contract and they couldn't legally sell it anymore, what changes here is Rockstar/T2's way of dealing with it. Instead of removing GTA IV from Steam and pulling it off the shelves, they just remove the songs which licenses expire. This might clear somethings. Silver and Spider-Vice 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetectivePhelps Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Its a good thing I never got rid of my loyal old console. No internet, no removal, no problem. Dusting it off to install both Eolc & IV. Last thing I want to hear & I cannot be the only coherent one here when I say, I dont need to hear teenagers poppy catchy cute fake house music or tiesto, or any annoying hip hop sounds that have no lyrical meaning. Nah, I wont allow that walking piece of mediocrity in my game. So R*, U. My apologies for my venting and in the process having a solution. NeonDolphin and Lock n' Stock 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedinhuh Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Oh no, they're killing Vladivostok FM? That's my favorite radio on EFLC!!! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edups Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 Oh no, they're killing Vladivostok FM? That's my favorite radio on EFLC!!! Well,not exactly.It'll stay,but most of the songs will be removed and replaced with trash 'music' instead. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Oh no, they're killing Vladivostok FM? That's my favorite radio on EFLC!!! Well,not exactly.It'll stay,but most of the songs will be removed and replaced with trash 'music' instead. Blonded Liberty City 97.8 FM incoming! What a good way to celebrate 10th anniversary!! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonox Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Copyrights, not even once. Lock n' Stock 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock n' Stock Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) This is a f*cking joke right? How hard is it to just renew the licenses? Unfortunately for them, I WON'T be installing any firmware update of GTA IV and EFLC that they force on us later this month. Those "new songs" can jog the f*ck on. Rockstar and Take-Two are a joke. Edited April 11, 2018 by Lock n' Stock Jeansowaty, Schachmatt777, Hmmm nice bike and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOUGL4S1 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 This is a f*cking joke right? How hard is it to just renew the licenses? Unfortunately for them, I WON'T be installing any firmware update of GTA IV and EFLC that they force on us later this month. Those "new songs" can jog the f*ck on. Rockstar and Take-Two are a joke. Exactly. GTA San Andreas had 17 removed songs, and according to the link I posted earlier, each license coasts between $5.000 and $30.000, so Rockstar would have to spend between $85.000 and $510.000 to renew all songs. How many seconds of Shark Card sales would they have to wait to get this money? ROCKSTAR MANIC, Hmmm nice bike, Jeansowaty and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) This is a f*cking joke right? How hard is it to just renew the licenses? Unfortunately for them, I WON'T be installing any firmware update of GTA IV and EFLC that they force on us later this month. Those "new songs" can jog the f*ck on. Rockstar and Take-Two are a joke. Exactly. GTA San Andreas had 17 removed songs, and according to the link I posted earlier, each license coasts between $5.000 and $30.000, so Rockstar would have to spend between $85.000 and $510.000 to renew all songs. How many seconds of Shark Card sales would they have to wait to get this money?http://gtaforums.com/topic/908085-gtav-most-profitable-entertainment-product-ever/ Spending that much money with how much profit they've made would be like spending 10 bucks. Also do you mean commas or periods? Use commas next time if it's thousands. Otherwise use two 0's instead of three. Edited April 11, 2018 by Scaglietti Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woggleman Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I don't realize why they never have to do this with movies but they always have to remove songs from games. Nobody is being forced to go back and remove music from classic movies but every GTA has had music removed after a while. MeatSafeMurderer, Lock n' Stock and NeonDolphin 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOUGL4S1 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Also do you mean commas or periods? Use commas next time if it's thousands. Otherwise use two 0's instead of three. Yeah, those are thousands. I wouldn't expect the license for a song to cost $5 or we'd be seeing a lot less royalty-free music. Screw math for not even being the same around the world. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if 99,9% of that money went straight into Strauss' bank account. Lock n' Stock 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The N. Bellic Man Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I don't realize why they never have to do this with movies but they always have to remove songs from games. Nobody is being forced to go back and remove music from classic movies but every GTA has had music removed after a while. Because they're not as greedy. Movie companies might be greedy but not as greedy as R* and Take Two. For example every time Miami Vice was released on different form (DVD and Blu-ray) they had to secure the rights to use licensed music. And that series has tons of (good) music. Somehow that series was released every time with original music intact even if some fans were sceptical about it. So there you go. NeonDolphin, Lock n' Stock and Zello 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
86DX Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 One of the reasons physical > digital. Boxed 1.0.7.0/1.1.2.0 here. Jeansowaty and ROCKSTAR MANIC 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Also do you mean commas or periods? Use commas next time if it's thousands. Otherwise use two 0's instead of three. Yeah, those are thousands. I wouldn't expect the license for a song to cost $5 or we'd be seeing a lot less royalty-free music. Screw math for not even being the same around the world. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if 99,9% of that money went straight into Strauss' bank account. I wouldn't be this mad about their decision if gta online looked and felt like take two was spending their income wisely. Probably did help Strauss buy a Bentley and a multimillion dollar house while screwing over loyal customers. Darealbandicoot and ROCKSTAR MANIC 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider-Vice Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Are other games affected by this? Or is it only a Rockstar kind of thing to remove songs from a 10 year old game due to expired licenses? Every form of media is affected by this. It's illegal to distribute anything with unlicensed music: video-games, movies, TV shows, etc, you name it. Alan Wake, a 2010 game, was pulled out of sale last year because the license for its songs expired after a 7-year contract and they couldn't legally sell it anymore, what changes here is Rockstar/T2's way of dealing with it. Instead of removing GTA IV from Steam and pulling it off the shelves, they just remove the songs which licenses expire. This might clear somethings. Most sensible response. There's also the possibility these contracts are not renewable. DOUGL4S1 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woggleman Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I don't realize why they never have to do this with movies but they always have to remove songs from games. Nobody is being forced to go back and remove music from classic movies but every GTA has had music removed after a while. Because they're not as greedy. Movie companies might be greedy but not as greedy as R* and Take Two. For example every time Miami Vice was released on different form (DVD and Blu-ray) they had to secure the rights to use licensed music. And that series has tons of (good) music. Somehow that series was released every time with original music intact even if some fans were sceptical about it. So there you go. I have always defended R but if it's a case of them just not wanting to pay then that is greedy. They can't use some of that shark card money to keep the music intact? If they did that and even bought back as much of the 3D era music as possible do they know how much good PR that would buy them? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The N. Bellic Man Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 "Say what you want about Americans but we understand capitalism. You buy yourself a product and you get what you pay for..." Seems like R* is forgetting that. What kind of asshats write this and then do exactly opposite. But then again R* is not originally an American company, so it obviously doesn't apply to them. T2 on the other hand is. Schachmatt777, Samwell, Lock n' Stock and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolleroz Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 And pirates superiority prevails again. (sadly). As developers keep acting like this it only gives people less and less of a reason to buy games. (hence why many 'fresh' games force you to use internet connection even when they're single player) ROCKSTAR MANIC, Jeansowaty and NightmanCometh96 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmmm nice bike Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 This is a f*cking joke right? How hard is it to just renew the licenses? Unfortunately for them, I WON'T be installing any firmware update of GTA IV and EFLC that they force on us later this month. Those "new songs" can jog the f*ck on. Rockstar and Take-Two are a joke. Exactly. GTA San Andreas had 17 removed songs, and according to the link I posted earlier, each license coasts between $5.000 and $30.000, so Rockstar would have to spend between $85.000 and $510.000 to renew all songs. How many seconds of Shark Card sales would they have to wait to get this money?Oh yeah, GTA V only made $6 billion USD and Shark Card sales have been (unfortunately) profitable. Half a million to renew licenses is small peanuts! What are they gonna do with these games in another 10 years or so when the other licenses gradually start to expire? Add a Spotify feature to make up for it? Lock n' Stock and ROCKSTAR MANIC 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtie Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 https://kotaku.com/rockstar-must-cut-some-music-from-gta-iv-but-plans-to-1825159152 “Due to music licensing restrictions, we are required to remove certain songs from the in-game soundtrack of Grand Theft Auto IV and its Episodes, in particular a large portion of the Russian pop station, Vladivostok FM,” You stupid motherf*ckers Interface 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSEPH X Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Maybe they don't want any Russian vibes in a HD remake. Give the fans a story about copyright, and say, "Hey it's not us, it's the Russians." Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamerzworld Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Rockstar has a support article now regarding the coming update - nothing more than what has already been revealed. Question: Are There In-game Soundtrack Changes Coming to GTAIV and its Episodes?Answer: Due to music licensing restrictions, we are required to remove certain songs from the in-game soundtrack of Grand Theft Auto IV, the episodes The Lost and Damned & The Ballad of Gay Tony, as well as the collection Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City. These soundtrack changes include a large portion of the Russian pop station, Vladivostok FM. While this means that some songs are being removed, we will be updating the station with a new set of songs.We will be updating this article with information regarding these soundtrack changes as soon as it is available. Lock n' Stock 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/908139-iv-song-removal-due-to-licenses-expiring/page/2/#findComment-1070186784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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