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IV Song Removal Due to Licenses expiring.

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Hmmm nice bike

Hey, while Rockstar is at it how about adding the weapons from TLAD & TBoGT to vanilla IV...

 

I wanna run around with Niko carrying that big ass Heavy MG from TBoGT.

EFLC weapons would be cool, but what I wish they would have done was also added the EFLC radio stations to IV, just so the soundtrack stays cohesive between all three. Why shouldn't Niko have the option to jam to Terrence Trent D'Arby if he wanted to?

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jaljax

Niko:

This is the mansion?

 

Roman:

Just a temporary place. The mansion is coming cousin . That's the dream... follow me. Come in, come in! Make yourself at home... what's mine is yours! Got him! Little bastard. If he paid some rent i wouldn't care... Oh... sh*t... oh, that's not nice... Ah, cousin, it's so good to see you! Yeah! Hmm... Sh*t... well, I needed to change anyway... So!

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Wolver_321

It's supposed to be several of the songs on Vladivostok FM as well.

 

 

 

Bummer. Now when you start a new game this song doesn't rape your eardrums anymore when you drive Roman's Taxi to the "so-called" mansion.

"Why don't you show me around the city?"

"Fuc*ing terrorists!"

"What?"

"Terrorists. There's been a big scare and you can't go across the bridges so good. "

OMG this is true nostalgia :)

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CartmanKusanagi

Hey, while Rockstar is at it how about adding the weapons from TLAD & TBoGT to vanilla IV...

 

I wanna run around with Niko carrying that big ass Heavy MG from TBoGT.

If licensing weren't a problem, it would have been amazing to finally merge the vanilla, DLC, and EFLC exclusive tracks together while we're at it. But that's looking to be a pipe dream at this point. :r*:

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TWIST_OF_HATE

All that "anniversary" stuff made me tired.

Feels like upcoming SkyGfx and SilentPatch releases for classic GTA's will be much more interesting and useful than upcoming IV "patch".

One day IV will be fixed, but most likely not by R* ...

Edited by TWIST_OF_HATE

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Big_Smiley

 

Hey, while Rockstar is at it how about adding the weapons from TLAD & TBoGT to vanilla IV...

I wanna run around with Niko carrying that big ass Heavy MG from TBoGT.

 

If licensing weren't a problem, it would have been amazing to finally merge the vanilla, DLC, and EFLC exclusive tracks together while we're at it. But that's looking to be a pipe dream at this point. :r*: One can dream though :rol: That would have definitely been nice.

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ROCKSTAR MANIC

Look what Happened the butchered songs of GTA SA. It f*cked up the whole radio formatting thing. Now this, R* you need to renew those licenses with the money that has been made. I guess thats how it is.. Another great Soundtrack down the toilet. And with the coming of new talent of your studios. I doubt theres anyone with good music taste. SMH.

 

I hope those songs for Vlad FM for TBOGT aren't butchered. Those are some good ass club beats.

 

I would love the implementation weapons of Episodes of LC into Vanilla, hell even the parachuting we need that. Good idea guys now that they are at it.

Edited by ROCKSTAR MANIC

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confederatestatesgta

this sucks it really does. they have made so much money over these past years why do they have to be so stingy? plus im sure they are going to make a crap ton of money from red dead redemption 2 in a few months. its such a shame that they have to ruin our nostalgia and potentially other peoples first times on this game. i know its unlikely but there could still be some new people to play this game for the first time. i replay gta 4 a lot. so it sucks knowing im not going to hear the awesome song that is playing in romans car when he pulls up. vladivostock is the station that really sets the mood for gta 4s beginning part of the story. niko just arrived here from the old country. his first safehouse and missions are in a eastern european neighborhood. playing vladivostok made sense. it was a great station to immerse yourself in. just driving around in romans cab. in hove beach. looking at the stores in russian. and listening to the pedestrians talk in russian or have the accents. all of this made the game feel so good. to take all these nostalgic songs out is like taking out the rap and hip hop stations out of gta san andreas. the game is focused on gangs and the ghetto. especially for the first part. i mean multiplayer is already ruined with all the modders and crap. so why do they have to ruin this? next thing they are going to do is add shark cards and fix the swingset glitch. at least if they have to take out a station or songs from a station. take it out of san juan sounds or massive b radio. but honestly i would rather them not take anything at all.

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Lock n' Stock

Hey, while Rockstar is at it how about adding the weapons from TLAD & TBoGT to vanilla IV...

 

I wanna run around with Niko carrying that big ass Heavy MG from TBoGT.

The question is though whenever it would make sense for Niko be carrying around stuff like Streetsweepers and gold Uzis, and also the question of where he'd get them from. Maybe they'd have to put around spawn points or have Jacob or Packie provide them.

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DOUGL4S1

 

Hey, while Rockstar is at it how about adding the weapons from TLAD & TBoGT to vanilla IV...

 

I wanna run around with Niko carrying that big ass Heavy MG from TBoGT.

And some vehicles, I don't get why Johnny and Luis can drive vehicles that Niko can't even tho all games are set in the exact same time.

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ROCKSTAR MANIC

 

Hey, while Rockstar is at it how about adding the weapons from TLAD & TBoGT to vanilla IV...

 

I wanna run around with Niko carrying that big ass Heavy MG from TBoGT.

The question is though whenever it would make sense for Niko be carrying around stuff like Streetsweepers and gold Uzis, and also the question of where he'd get them from. Maybe they'd have to put around spawn points or have Jacob or Packie provide them.

 

 

^ I know that would kill the immersion of Vanilla but it adds more variety, aint saying vanilla guns suck but more is always good. Add parachuting to vanilla. The vehicles too, the APC, buzzard. just like spawn points, Hell that would be good 10 anniversary gift, but we get this sh*t...

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DOUGL4S1

 

 

Hey, while Rockstar is at it how about adding the weapons from TLAD & TBoGT to vanilla IV...

 

I wanna run around with Niko carrying that big ass Heavy MG from TBoGT.

The question is though whenever it would make sense for Niko be carrying around stuff like Streetsweepers and gold Uzis, and also the question of where he'd get them from. Maybe they'd have to put around spawn points or have Jacob or Packie provide them.

 

 

^ I know that would kill the immersion of Vanilla but it adds more variety, aint saying vanilla guns suck but more is always good. Add parachuting to vanilla. The vehicles too, the APC, buzzard. just like spawn points, Hell that would be good 10 anniversary gift, but we get this sh*t...

 

Yes, maybe even some vehicles introduced in GTA V/Online, the GP1, Comet Retro, Elegy Retro, Monroe, Stanier Civilian, the older Baller, Unmarked Cruiser, Rebel, the Utility Truck... All those vehicles would fit within the GTA IV lore and setting perfectly, and I'm sure R* could convert their LODs in a matter of days. They would be an interesting addition to the game, something new to play with, but we don't pay for their Shark Cards, so we don't get new stuff.

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DetectivePhelps

I guess I can dust off my 360 and play offline.

The smartest approach which I just did. No internet too which perfection. Besides, the Backward compatibly wasnt much of a difference. Case solved for me should I ever desire to play EFLC..

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TheOriginalGunslinger

On April 29th, I expect all of you to do another playthrough of IV... Just freaking do it!

 

10 years man! (Take that Michael and Trevor!) :D The realist 10 years I've had the pleasure of playing IV.

Edited by TheOriginalGunslinger

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MeatSafeMurderer

Some of you might remember the debacle around the OpenIV cease and desist. If we actually want Take2 to attempt to renegotiate the licenses for the music we should make our voices heard. This is a bad PR incident waiting to happen. I've already seen some in this very thread expressing an attitude of "what's the point in buying it if 10 years later it isn't what I bought anymore". We need to channel that and make this a bad PR incident. Then maybe they'll reconsider. Of course we still might not get all the tracks to stay...but "alot" of Vladivostok screams "we're not even going to bother to try".

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eCola

Welp, it's more or less gonna feel weird hearing sh*tty 2017 music in a game set in 2008...

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TheOriginalGunslinger

I really hope songs from Liberty Rock Radio aren't cut...

 

If they do it's time Rockstar adds this...

 

 

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Caysle

I'm hoping the Vladivostok FM playlists created by regular users on Spotify still keep the old songs so I can keep listening them from time to time, those club songs from EFLC are still awesome

Edited by Caysle

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Nico

Some of you might remember the debacle around the OpenIV cease and desist. If we actually want Take2 to attempt to renegotiate the licenses for the music we should make our voices heard. This is a bad PR incident waiting to happen. I've already seen some in this very thread expressing an attitude of "what's the point in buying it if 10 years later it isn't what I bought anymore". We need to channel that and make this a bad PR incident. Then maybe they'll reconsider. Of course we still might not get all the tracks to stay...but "alot" of Vladivostok screams "we're not even going to bother to try".

This case is very, veeeeeeery different. Back in the OpenIV case the C&D against the OpenIV team prompted the community to start writing negative reviews about the game on Steam. The flow of negative reviews was so big it actually affected the game's "rating", which was pretty high before the scandal. And this was -and still is- Rockstar and Take Two's stellar product, and having tons of bad community reviews on the same page where they sell the game for PC was definitely more harmful than what they originally intended to chase down, the possibility of exploiting GTA Online through OpenIV which was non-existant at all. So they had to trace their steps back. This showed extraordinarily well that the Take Two execs simply do not care about their customers at all, they wanted to prevent any sort of possibility of losing income without giving a damn if their measures were actually effective or not. They ended up shooting themsevles in the foot.

 

This is a completely different story. IV is a nearly 10 year old game, and obviously with its reputation among casual gamers, it simply doesn't sell nowhere near as good as GTA V. If the people start making negative reviews about the upcoming changes, I can assure you it will never be as massive as the amount of repudiation Take Two received with the Open IV case.

 

I believe mostly what Spider-Vice said, probably most of these licensing contracts were never meant to be renewable. We all know that if the contracts were renewable, Rockstar definitely has the money to renew them, but maybe that's simply not possible.

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Spider-Vice

Obviously they may just be stubborn, we'll never know, only they know the conditions of their contracts, but I don't see why they wouldn't try. But then again according to that Steam Community article, it's 5 to 30k dollars per track. Rockstar may just not want to allocate that budget to an old game.

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Gnocchi Flip Flops

Does Xbox One force you to update... like even if you turn Offline off? If so then I guess they just took my money and ran with it because I damn sure won't be playing BC IV ever again if so, depending on which tracks they remove.

Edited by Scaglietti

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DOUGL4S1

I kinda love how people don't even know which tracks are going to be removed (or which ones will be added) and they're already going crazy over it.

Edited by DOUGL4S1

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MeatSafeMurderer

 

 

Some of you might remember the debacle around the OpenIV cease and desist. If we actually want Take2 to attempt to renegotiate the licenses for the music we should make our voices heard. This is a bad PR incident waiting to happen. I've already seen some in this very thread expressing an attitude of "what's the point in buying it if 10 years later it isn't what I bought anymore". We need to channel that and make this a bad PR incident. Then maybe they'll reconsider. Of course we still might not get all the tracks to stay...but "alot" of Vladivostok screams "we're not even going to bother to try".

This case is very, veeeeeeery different. Back in the OpenIV case the C&D against the OpenIV team prompted the community to start writing negative reviews about the game on Steam. The flow of negative reviews was so big it actually affected the game's "rating", which was pretty high before the scandal. And this was -and still is- Rockstar and Take Two's stellar product, and having tons of bad community reviews on the same page where they sell the game for PC was definitely more harmful than what they originally intended to chase down, the possibility of exploiting GTA Online through OpenIV which was non-existant at all. So they had to trace their steps back. This showed extraordinarily well that the Take Two execs simply do not care about their customers at all, they wanted to prevent any sort of possibility of losing income without giving a damn if their measures were actually effective or not. They ended up shooting themsevles in the foot.

 

This is a completely different story. IV is a nearly 10 year old game, and obviously with its reputation among casual gamers, it simply doesn't sell nowhere near as good as GTA V. If the people start making negative reviews about the upcoming changes, I can assure you it will never be as massive as the amount of repudiation Take Two received with the Open IV case.

 

I believe mostly what Spider-Vice said, probably most of these licensing contracts were never meant to be renewable. We all know that if the contracts were renewable, Rockstar definitely has the money to renew them, but maybe that's simply not possible.

 

 

GTA IV may not be that popular among the mainstream crowds but it's important to remember the context here. This is about more than IV. In another 5 years GTA V will be 10 years old (they grow up so fast) and it will be getting exactly the same treatment. They do have other options. If they can't renegotiate the licenses and thus can no-longer sell IV in its original form then the right course of action is not to butcher the current release that people have already purchased, expecting the complete product, but to pull it from sale on steam and re-release a mutilated version as they did with Vice City.

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Gnocchi Flip Flops

I kinda love how people don't even know which tracks are going to be removed (or which ones will be added) and they're already going crazy over it.

:sigh: Considering Vladivostok is my most listened to station on TBOGT and I like just about every song, I think I know that I'll be pissed...

 

Really bruh?

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DOUGL4S1

 

I kinda love how people don't even know which tracks are going to be removed (or which ones will be added) and they're already going crazy over it.

:sigh: Considering Vladivostok is my most listened to station on TBOGT and I like just about every song, I think I know that I'll be pissed...

 

Really bruh?

 

The only thing I hate about EFLC's Vladivostok FM is how pretty much none of the songs are from Eastern Europe, like the GTA IV station. And if you're that much in love with the radio, export its file with OpenIV and place it on Independence FM. EFLC's radio stations are basically a 40-minute audio file anyways. saw your post about Xbox One. That sucks.

Edited by DOUGL4S1

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AlexanderPierce

In 5 years, Take-two will re-license GTA V music to please online kids and continue milking shark cards.

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Hmmm nice bike

In 5 years, Take-two will re-license GTA V music to please online kids and continue milking shark cards.

I doubt it. They're probably just going to do what they're doing with IV and replace everything. They've already added two new radio stations (full of songs made years after 2013 and DJ dialogue from Frank Ocean that sounds like it was recorded through a f*cking Skype call), so if that and IV's tracks being replaced is anything to go by, they'll just replace whatever needs to be replaced and add (what will probably be by that point) the 10th Blonded/Lab/FlyLo-style radio station.

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woggleman

This is a shame because IV looks great and plays very well on X Box one X.

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Nem_Wan

The only thing I hate about EFLC's Vladivostok FM is how pretty much none of the songs are from Eastern Europe, like the GTA IV station.

 

 

A fun fact from the GTA Wikia is that this inconsistency is based on real life. The New York Russian Pop station that Vladivostok FM was based on, WNYZ-LP, changed its format to Electronic Dance and relaunched as Pulse 87 in February 2008, when GTA IV was practically done but before TBoGT was made.

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Jdogg4089

On April 29th, I expect all of you to do another playthrough of IV... Just freaking do it!

 

10 years man! (Take that Michael and Trevor!) :D The realist 10 years I've had the pleasure of playing IV.

I can't. Ain't got a HP spectre x360

Or any other PC. And no way I'm playing it on last gen.

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