The Criminal Mastermind, (Original Heists) **Please Read

[just do it bob1]

I've tried to do the criminal mastermind, and we can do it no problem, and I know that.

My issue is that when we try to get together, it says loyalty challenge failed. (This is when we join up for the prison break)

 

This is the way we did it:

 

Two teams, with two members each, complete the fleeca and join up for the prison break.

 

*Loads up prison break*

"Loyalty challenge failed"

Could someone please help? I don't know what I'm doing wrong. It's the same team, four of us.

[aFinn]

Did you have one of the Fleeca hosts also host Prison Break?

[just do it bob1]

Did you have one of the Fleeca hosts also host Prison Break?

 

Yes, I hosted one of the fleecas and then hosted the prison break

[Lonely-Martin]

Run the Prison Break as a 4 person team, do 1 setup. (Dying here doesn't matter, must complete though).

 

Then split up, run Fleeca's in pairs until finished (Naturally, no dying here, hard etc.)

 

Then cancel and restart the Prison Break from the beginning, should all be good.

 

The game needs to 'register the team' on a 4 man heist, then start from the top basically.

 

Invite sessions are essential too, progress can be lost joining busy sessions via errors in loading.

 

Hope it helps, happy heisting.

Edited March 30, 2018 by KWF1981

[aFinn]

Hmm. I remember back in the day when we did it, the 2 members of our team who did not host Fleeca did not get the loyalty award (but got mastermind). If they'd done Fleeca afterwards together they might have gotten it.

Mastermind is the big bucks one, so what if you proceeded anyway?

[just do it bob1]

Hmm. I remember back in the day when we did it, the 2 members of our team who did not host Fleeca did not get the loyalty award (but got mastermind). If they'd done Fleeca afterwards together they might have gotten it.

Mastermind is the big bucks one, so what if you proceeded anyway?

Me and my friend Azar got the message that it failed.

 

The other two guys didn't. Doesn't the CMM need loyalty for it to be the Criminal Mastermind?

 

*EDIT* when i reloaded the fleeca again to start over I got this message:

 

"Starting this job will reset All in order and Criminal Mastermind Challange progress, do you wish to continue?"

Notice how it did not mention the loyalty challenge...

Edited March 30, 2018 by just do it bob1

[Lonely-Martin]

Hmm. I remember back in the day when we did it, the 2 members of our team who did not host Fleeca did not get the loyalty award (but got mastermind). If they'd done Fleeca afterwards together they might have gotten it.

Mastermind is the big bucks one, so what if you proceeded anyway?

 

This is correct too.

 

The loyalty award doesn't need to pop to get CMM award here. From experience too.

 

Like you said, those missing the loyalty can just run Fleeca after with another from the 4 and all is good there.

 

@ OP... My 1st post would be your best bet, looking at your responses since.

 

So messed up for new folk to understand.

[aFinn]

Check out KWF's post a few's posts above, hope that helps.

Edited March 30, 2018 by aFinn

[Mrs. Buzz]

I made/helped dozen of crewmates with their CMM on the classic and DD ones. My best advice to keep it right:

 

Classic:

Choose two of you who host Fleeca and after that only one, one! who host the "rest" - always from a "invite-only" sessions!

 

Check progress after each heist (HL, Series A and so on)

 

For the DD-heist-CMM:

Follow the order - even you can make all preps at 1st - do it how its meant to be played! Same like classic, start from "invite-only" once the freeroam setups are made. 1st invite to the session, invite to your CEO/MC-team and go on.

 

It's a annoying here and there, but following the "path" is a "+" doing it right.

[aFinn]

 

Doesn't the CMM need loyalty for it to be the Criminal Mastermind?

 

 

No, they are separate awards, Criminal Mastermind is the one you can't die in, but you could still get All In Order and Loyalty awards even if you die but do everything else in order with same team.

[just do it bob1]

 

 

Doesn't the CMM need loyalty for it to be the Criminal Mastermind?

 

 

No, they are separate awards, Criminal Mastermind is the one you can't die in, but you could still get All In Order and Loyalty awards even if you die but do everything else in order with same team.

 

Thank you guys!

[just do it bob1]

Guys, We are on Humane labs and so far its worked well, and we have had no problems. Again, thank you guys so much for your help

[The Wandering Hunter]

do a 4 man heist with your cmm team before doing any of the cmm challenge.

 

my last group did psj all the way just for practice, although 1 setup is all you need

[Lonely-Martin]

Guys, We are on Humane labs and so far its worked well, and we have had no problems. Again, thank you guys so much for your help

 

Awesome stuff.