ha! ha! ha! Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 why CJ has turned his mind to help madd dog? it is him who steal ryime book to gave it og log and even kill the maneger so madd dog try to kill himself, suiside.. by deep depresion... but CJ suddenly prevent madd dog's dying and help him? to stand up again? it's no nonsence to me.. anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_CAT Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 http://gtaforums.com/topic/462466-why-did-cj-betray-og-loc/ In my opinion CJ finds out that OG Loc is just a c*nt, which in some point betrayed GSF only for money and fame, so he decides to redempt himself and do the right. SanLiberty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 CJ blindly helped Loc cause he thought Loc was his homie and loyal to GSF. But when GSF was betrayed, Loc sided with Smoke instead of CJ and Sweet. Then CJ realised that Loc only cared about money and fame and the whole Grove 4 life was just a charade. He saved Mad Doggs life cause CJ wanted to atone for nearly ruining the legit rappers life by blindly siding with a traitor and became his manager to help him stand up again, taking revenge on OG Loc in the process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisan™ Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 it's no nonsence to me What's the problem then? SanLiberty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jeansowaty Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 CJ blindly helped Loc cause he thought Loc was his homie and loyal to GSF. But when GSF was betrayed, Loc sided with Smoke instead of CJ and Sweet. Then CJ realised that Loc only cared about money and fame and the whole Grove 4 life was just a charade. He saved Mad Doggs life cause CJ wanted to atone for nearly ruining the legit rappers life by blindly siding with a traitor and became his manager to help him stand up again, taking revenge on OG Loc in the process I agree, though I admit that this should've been fleshed out in the story a bit better. You only hear on the radio that Smoke became Loc's new manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhoda Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 It could be argued that CJ saved Madd Dogg's life out of guilt just as much as his will to do the right thing. CJ always knew that stealing this rhyme book was morally wrong, but much like his other activities, this is justified by his upbringing, the hood life and the status quo. From the perspective shown at the beginning of the story, CJ (and the GSF by extension) are pushed down, whilst big-time stars live it up in houses on hills, simply for doing what they do. CJ knows OG Loc lacks the lyrical style to make it big but at this point he's thinking of his own, and how he deserves every bit of success MD has. Thus, he steals the book. CJ then goes on a journey of sorts - not only is he sent four times across the state and back again, but he's shown what it really means to be loyal and who is most important to him. He is taught a lesson in empathy. It isn't until the GSF falls apart and CJ realises the value of hard work and "honesty" that he does his best to put things right, and this includes righting the wrong done to Madd Dogg. I put "honesty" like that because obviously there's blurred lines here. Does CJ come clean about stealing the book in the first place? Likely not, as we aren't shown this and and admission of the crime would likely put strain on his new-found relationship with Madd Dogg. CJ lets Madd Dogg believe it was OG Loc because he feels he is merely the middle man, the lapdog who did the running around and dirty work for those who would use him time and time again to get ahead. j7n, Maibatsu545, universetwisters and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I agree, though I admit that this should've been fleshed out in the story a bit better. You only hear on the radio that Smoke became Loc's new manager. Agreed. In my opinion after his betrayal Smoke disappears somewhat when he should have had a larger presence overall. As we progressed through the game we should have kept getting updates as Smoke got stronger about what a dominant force he was becoming in the LS underworld. Atleast a few intimidating phone calls to CJ ala Sonny Forelli and Dimitri would have been nice. We could have had OG Loc send us some mocking phone calls with that annoying voice of his to rub it in our face that he was using us all along and had no true loyalty to GSF. Unfortunately we only get WCTR interviews from each of them to show their villainy, which can easily be missed by the player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 CJ blindly helped Loc cause he thought Loc was his homie and loyal to GSF. But when GSF was betrayed, Loc sided with Smoke instead of CJ and Sweet. Then CJ realised that Loc only cared about money and fame and the whole Grove 4 life was just a charade. He saved Mad Doggs life cause CJ wanted to atone for nearly ruining the legit rappers life by blindly siding with a traitor and became his manager to help him stand up again, taking revenge on OG Loc in the process Pretty much this..... That was what I gathered from it myself after first finishing the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
