What is your strategy against Dive Bombers?

[RightOnTheDpad]

 

I also use OTR of course. Anyone who goes passive when I go OTR immediately loses my attention. I'd rather switch sessions than play against ninnies.

 

I fail to see your rationale there.

 

 

Generalisation...

 

The majority of players seem to believe their gameplay style should be the norm. Any deviation means the other players a noob, a p*ssy, scared etc etc. If i'm engaging in PvP i'll do it head on, in full view, win or lose. I'm a ninnie, if someone i've been fighting with doesn't have the gumption to stay visible, im passive/Lester invite asap. They can play how they want to, i'll do the same. I'd bet my left testicle that they'd be the first to moan if you used their tactics.

[flexcreator]

People like that aren't there to fight. They're there to pad their K/D. The best way to "win" is to deny them.

 

If every single player will deny them, you will lose together as the community. If you quit or go passive they will see it as a victory. If they see no resistance, they will continue to ruin the experience of other players. If you talk about "honor" in chat they will laugh at you and won't change their behaviour. On the other hand, if you kick their *** really hard, they won't return to their ways for a pretty long time. Instead, they'll stay driving in passive mode and sending insults. The world will lose a single tryhard for a few hours. It's a victory, if you ask me.

 

The best way to win is to unite and stand together against tryhards. Especially, if you are playing in the crew.

[Happy Hunter]

Well generally, I watch out for jets on the map, and people heading to jet spawn points. So I usually see them coming, and can prepare - I just go somewhere with cover, like the construction site.

 

Stay hidden when they attack; pop out and snipe when they're pulling up again.

 

If I'm caught off guard - off radar, and make my way to cover. Or off radar, call armoured vehicle, then hope it lasts long enough to get to cover.

[The Wandering Hunter]

find new session.

 

maybe try to do an otr explosive snipe first.

 

ideally i'd get my pyro but passive mode exists .

[Nutduster]

 

 

I also use OTR of course. Anyone who goes passive when I go OTR immediately loses my attention. I'd rather switch sessions than play against ninnies.

I fail to see your rationale there.

 

 

Generalisation...

 

The majority of players seem to believe their gameplay style should be the norm. Any deviation means the other players a noob, a p*ssy, scared etc etc. If i'm engaging in PvP i'll do it head on, in full view, win or lose. I'm a ninnie, if someone i've been fighting with doesn't have the gumption to stay visible, im passive/Lester invite asap. They can play how they want to, i'll do the same. I'd bet my left testicle that they'd be the first to moan if you used their tactics.

 

 

My rationale is that I'm not going to fight someone who literally presses a button to become invincible in order to win fights. It's not worth the aggravation to follow them around and constantly be on my toes, waiting for them to pick the perfect moment to un-passive themselves and then I have to try to beat them in that moment anyway. I'm not gonna bother myself; I will just switch sessions instead.

 

As far as the "gameplay style" discussion, exploits are not a style, period. Using passive to win fights is an exploit of a mechanic meant to remove yourself from PvP play entirely. Same thing with wall breaches, god mode glitches, teleporting back to your apartment via heist invites, or any of that sh*t. If you are exploiting a bug in the game or abusing a mechanic not designed for what you are using it for, your "style" is incompatible with people who choose to play straight up. If you want to counter off the radar in a battle, you have other options that are not exploitative: you can go off radar yourself, put yourself somewhere with limited points of entry, drive/fly away quickly until their off-radar elapses, use thermal vision, use homing rockets to lock onto their vehicles, or just look for where you think your opponent might be based on what you think they're trying to do. You see, off radar can be countered in many ways, which is why it is a legitimate tactic. Passive cannot be countered by anything except going passive yourself or waiting the person out, and usually at the end of that wait you're going to get smacked. No thanks.

 

(Still waiting for Rockstar to wake up and add a cooldown so ninnies can't go passive 5 seconds after murdering half the lobby.)

 

I will agree however with your general point that players are very judgmental of other players' legitimate tactics. Camping, leaning on explosives, rooftop sniping, combat rolling down the street, BP helmets, bullshark, even using the jet or whatever else - these things make people mad because they are effective and they can't, or don't want to, do it themselves. GTA is and should remain a blank canvas for us to play with in our different ways, even if it makes someone else mad (or jealous). But exploiting is not a tactic, and not a play style. So I feel free to judge passive abusers just like I judge idiots who hide in wall breaches and farm kills.

 

I will say this too - I have no problem if you turn on passive to bow out of a fight. That's what it's for. I only mind it when people do it to stop themselves being killed in a fair fight. No other game provides you a method like this to simply prevent another player's tactics from working against you. You can't go passive in Halo anytime someone has the rocket launcher. You can't go passive in COD anytime someone calls in an airstrike. The whole idea of it is ridiculous. If you object that much to the whole idea of off-radar, rather than using passive as a cheap counter, you should lobby Rockstar to change their game.

Edited March 14, 2018 by Nutduster

[No Use For A Name]

1. Go passive

 

2. Call for $2 million auto. I prefer the Vigilante because its a larger target

 

3. Park in the middle of a dive bomb warzone

 

4. Get out

 

5. Laugh when they cost themselves $20k blowing up your car

 

6. Repeat

[RightOnTheDpad]

@ Nutduster.

 

Are you referring to passive, or passive popping?

 

General-

 

Maybe i'm too old. I cba with all the otr/ghost aspect, plenty of players love it to get a kill on another player for whatever reason. If thats the only way they can do it, good luck to them. Like i said, toe to toe so to speak. If a particular player wants to use those tactics i'll move on to something else and they can do the same.

[Nutduster]

Passive popping? Do you mean going in and out of passive mode? If so then yes, that is what I have a problem with. If you're just going passive to opt out of a fight, more power to you; that's what it's for. I use it myself when I just want to sell or mod a car, or when I need to send a message to someone for a couple minutes, or when some fight is getting on my nerves and I just want to stop fighting.

 

So if someone starts ghosting and you don't feel like fighting them because of that, cool. But if you're just going to go passive long enough to wait the ghost org out, then turn it off so you can kill them again, I would consider that essentially exploitative. There's really no difference between doing that and going passive because you're being sniped and want to get closer, or because they're in a jet and you want to get in yours without dying. If you're using it to get on even footing with someone who has an advantage on you temporarily, that's what I hate most about passive. Using for its intended purpose of *actually being passive* is fine.

[Van_Hellsing]

Get a facility, start a heist and never complete it.

 

During haulage, 4 out of 5 times, some tryhard will come after you. Sit tight in a MOC cab and after delivery start the heist. It will teleport you to the facility.

Edited March 14, 2018 by Van_Hellsing

[Xadie]

Thanks guys for all the good tips

[Killer Whale]

(Not me)

 

And it works every time.

[Jenkiiii]

The OP has described the second worst-case GTA online scenario to me. There is almost nothing worse than having a very skilled jet pilot raining down bullets for his pleasure and your displeasure.

 

There is only one thing worse than a skilled jet griefer IMO, and that's EWO (easy way out). It's almost like a Matrix scenario in which you can slow down the bullet before the bullet reaches you, enabling you to escape with your life. I've seen people suicide off Oppressors and fall dead to the floor before the missile hits. It's pathetic, beyond pathetic, and when someone does EWO I mentally disassociate myself with that person. I will not fight or get involved with someone who cannot accept being killed by another player through suicide.

 

I usually see EWO as the predecessor to grabbing a jet. Once the player has established that he can't be killed, and you can't kill him, he will then roll his final dice - you know it's coming - the jet, and by that time I'm mentally done with the whole thing. It's stalemate and the game effectively stops until someone decides to leave the lobby.

 

So my advice is, when you see the EWO signals popping up on your screen, avoid combat unless you're an EWO hero yourself, as it'll all boil down to jets.

Edited March 14, 2018 by Jenkiiii

[Pedinhuh]

All of these people saying to park your expensive car near them so they blow it up and get poorer...

 

You guys know a griefer who knows the ways of dive-bombing also knows the way of dumping his money on a secondary character, right? If they don't have money enough in their bank account to actually care about it, that is.

Edited March 14, 2018 by Pedinhuh

[Cutter De Blanc]

Seriously, people usually leave me alone if I congratulate them for killing me

[LL Cool L]

Hide under some kind of overhang and wait them out. Guys like that usually crash eventually since the Hydra doesn't like to pull up, and they will probably keep pushing it closer and closer to the ground trying to figure out how to kill you.

 

If you want to get really fancy, call in a Merryweather airstrike and throw the flare at your own feet - probably won't work but if it does you'll laugh your ass off.

 

I also use OTR of course. Anyone who goes passive when I go OTR immediately loses my attention. I'd rather switch sessions than play against ninnies.

 

Finally, call in an Oppressor (easiest if you start an MC). You can get a lot of distance from the ground really quickly and maybe have a chance, and you're so small that jets will find it hard to hit you from any angle. Worst case scenario usually is that he blows up your Oppressor wherever it spawns, so keep hiding, call Mors Mutual, and let him bad sport himself to death if necessary.

I would have bet you were one of the people who hates the oppressor....

[Nutduster]

I'm not a fan of it on a few levels: it's so ridiculous that it breaks immersion (though the Deluxo is worse), it's one of the worst offenders of the recent weaponized personal vehicles for turning free roam into a sh*tshow, the fact that it has insurance costs is insane, and the combination of it with the MC "request bike" feature is obnoxious. On the other hand, it's fun to fly and a must have if you get into PvP, which I do often. So yeah I own one.

[Blasterman4EVER]

Everything except suicide is on the table at this point.

[gtafan26]

Go OTR then instead of phoning for a Pegasus Hydra, spawn the personal Hydra because the spawn locations are a bit more random (he will be watching the marina and the hospital spawn points if this is in Los Santos)

 

Get up in the air.

 

Kill him.

 

Watch him go passive.

 

Wait for abuse.

You left out a step , place a $1k bounty comes before you kill him.

Edited March 15, 2018 by gtafan26

[gtafan26]

Hide under some kind of overhang and wait them out. Guys like that usually crash eventually since the Hydra doesn't like to pull up, and they will probably keep pushing it closer and closer to the ground trying to figure out how to kill you.

 

If you want to get really fancy, call in a Merryweather airstrike and throw the flare at your own feet - probably won't work but if it does you'll laugh your ass off.

 

I also use OTR of course. Anyone who goes passive when I go OTR immediately loses my attention. I'd rather switch sessions than play against ninnies.

 

Finally, call in an Oppressor (easiest if you start an MC). You can get a lot of distance from the ground really quickly and maybe have a chance, and you're so small that jets will find it hard to hit you from any angle. Worst case scenario usually is that he blows up your Oppressor wherever it spawns, so keep hiding, call Mors Mutual, and let him bad sport himself to death if necessary.

Ive been seeing a lot of this and hiding behind Ghost Org from the air tryhards, and not just from the jet tryhards, but all armed aircraft tryhards. I had one a few days ago, I was going after a bounty ( yes, in my meme car) dude was OTR/Ghost/Akula( one of those) , I hear the lock on alert but couldn't get out or away in time and down I went.

 

Within the time of spawning back, and getting my meme car back, he quit being a CEO and was in passive, and stayed that way till he got back up in the air a while later, shocking , I know right....

 

The tryhards in the air seem to be using more and more sneaky tactics to get cheap and easy kills, and abusing the sh*t out of Ghost and OTR, its pretty sad what its come to.

Edited March 15, 2018 by gtafan26

[Skeve613]

I always seek somewhere with top cover, or which is right next to a building interior I can immediately enter, both of which will keep you alive if a jet gets too close. Of course, these tactics only work if you can spot the jet before it can attack.

 

At the low end of the scale, I'll put myself into passive right as they nose over to attack, and hope they blow up the personal vehicle I parked nearby. The insurance costs don't really hurt most jet people, and it doesn't always work either, but a few rounds of getting Bad Sport points without a kill will often make them leave the lobby alone for a while.

 

 

Of course, if you get lucky enough to find someone with more anger than sense, you might get lucky enough to get them sent to Bad Sport for a while, as demonstrated by our resident sentient attack helicopter:

 

 

[StangOne50]

Being impressed and texting them, "nice kill" when they kill me

When I grief I take pity on no one. Players have begged, raged.. no effect on me but this might actually work lol

[Jenkiiii]

Of course, if you get lucky enough to find someone with more anger than sense, you might get lucky enough to get them sent to Bad Sport for a while, as demonstrated by our resident sentient attack helicopter:

 

 

 

Brilliant idea, thanks for posting the video!

[CaptainMarvel]

If Im overpowered or outclassed, I become submissive and become their prison b!tch. As long as I feel some sort of affection/love as I get passed around the griefing crew like a bag of chips at fat camp, then so be it.

 

My father never loved me.

 

My digital body is yours Xx_420_NoScope_xX

[Cheesy_wotsit]

 

 

Always make sure you teleport away and then send a snapshot of them through psn of your wang. It gets the point across.

 

so your solution is to run away and then give them something to have a bloody good laugh at? Nice solution

[bombkangaroo]

One solution that I read on this very forum a while back was, if there is a lone jet griefer, to call them repeatedly. They can't use any vehicle weapons set to the primary button, either X or A, on their controller, while you're calling them. If there are multiple of them it may not work.

[jpm1]

generally these guys love populated servers. so just go on a roof and snipe them with Mk II. once their jet is damaged, mark them, and..:

 

- if you are into pvp: do your stuff

- if you are not into pvp (and i believe you already warned him/them not to engage you): go passive and put your ghost on their character/car until they leave the server. absolutely no counter measure exists. and if you are patient enough, the griefer will have no other choice than to leave. works 100% of the time. as i said sometimes you need to be a bit patient. then it's up to you to decide whose guy has to leave, a griefer, or the peaceful guy you are, that didn't ask anything to no one

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

Of course, if you get lucky enough to find someone with more anger than sense, you might get lucky enough to get them sent to Bad Sport for a while, as demonstrated by our resident sentient attack helicopter:

 

LOL, he got sent to Bad Sport, in which he and his kind belongs and should be.

[The Collector]

Teleport to my apt via open heist. Walk over to office, get on top of roof blow the douche up with my Mk2 Explosive Round Sniper. Done. Enjoy hate msgs.

[Ice_cold2016]

I give them a firm warning that if they don't stop i will be telling their mothers.

[fatdog]

I play the way I want other players would do, so no passive mode or teleport invite. I just suck it up, trying to damage his jet in a process, mb use otr if he's getting me too fast. Oppressor insta spawn should be pretty helpful, but I don't respect this bike and never owned one.