Quinn_flower 13,198 Posted March 8 (edited) acoording to sites i been reading about the usa goverment wants to put the blame on video game because of late shooting as of late over there. as a outsider looking in and based on what i seen its not video games the lack of parenting. its because there no teaching or telling what is good or wrong. which is sad since kids or this generation are always in the phones or ipads. parents dont be parents anymore and shove a ipad in a kid face there not that human connection anymore. its not movies or game its just there no morals anymore, over here our laws are strict on guns but our customs are different and we show respect to others something i dont see in usa media or life as often. there are some who show kindness to others but little remains of the old guard as i like to say. i play mature games with guns and sex and gore and im fine i dont wanna go and do something just cause i seen it in a game. when i was a kid i used to play gta 3 for a hour under my dad watch while he tells me what i see in there isnt real its just a game. that what kids need these days actual parenting not youtube parenting. sit down with your kids at dinner and ask how is their day going things like that can make a big difference. those who are actual parents i say thank your like a dying breed in this day of age. it maybe late for us grown ups but for the future its never too late to show morals and how to treat your fellow man. because in the end we are all the same color,sex,race,ect and live in this beauiful big blue world. we shouldnt be afraid to step out to go see a movie or go see a concert or anything in this day of age. Edited March 8 by Quinn_flower Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hmmm nice bike 3,638 Posted March 8 And it's probably going to go over as well as it did the last time they tried blaming real life violence on violent video games. Honestly, when I heard that Trump was organizing some kind of meeting tomorrow with some people from the video game industry, it felt like 2003 all over again when a bunch of people thought that GTA III and Vice City were the end of common human decency. Or when they tried to blame Columbine on Doom back when that incident happened. I doubt much is going to come of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Am Shaegar 1,449 Posted March 8 Video games do tend to be violent in nature, but the aspect of violence influence on kids, or any individual that grew up in playing such games doesn't automatically lead to mass killings, or shootouts. The main concern for any responsible government should be whether any citizen actually possesses the means to carry out an act of violence, after playing games, or watching movies? The answer is NO, if I'm talking about the government in my country, because there are no weapon shops, or any thing that could easily make it possible to get my hands on a fully automatic rifle or something that could take away the lives of many people very easily. It's next to impossible. But, when it comes to America, I believe the government tends to neglect the "means" to carry out a crime, instead of blaming video games or movies that is meant for pure entertainment, and something that comes with appropriate ratings so that young minds don't become inadvertently exposed to violence in games, or movies. Ban the guns, problem solved. Instead of going round in circles, and blaming every body else, except for the gun lobby that is actually making it possible to turn their experiences in video games into reality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ClaudeSpeed1911 3,476 Posted March 8 The only reason we went back to the 90's/2000's is because of Trump, why you ask? Well, Trump is backed by the NRA and all these assholes who only think about owning military grade weapons and selling them. Over here where I live, you can have guns but you need to have a license, a special safe and can only take the gun out in special areas. The guns can't be anything more than a hunting rifle (no SMG's, AR15's or anything like that). You also have to pass a test that determines whether you can own a gun and are not a psychopath. Trump got rid of the law about this sanity test in the US a few months back so you could see where his interests are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coin 19,453 Posted March 8 It's been a while since we've heard from everyone's favourite florida (well, disbarred now-a-days) lawyer, Jack Thompson but he's back, baaaayybbeeee. The line of discussion is inherently flawed and absurd but inviting Jackie boy back to the table just doubles down on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Yokel 5,705 Posted March 8 They just want to distract people from talking about gun control. They're trying to shift the narrative. And the more time people spend defending video games the less time they're spending talking about guns and gun control. If you're an American, don't fall for their strategy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1972 2,693 Posted March 8 (edited) It's the same old discussion. Everyone knows they say it just to distract from the real gun control issues as well as ignoring the actual mental health of the shooters. Once again, parents are innocent. Every. Single. Time. How about looking at the parents for once?! Noooo, they didn't know ANYTHING while their son was getting his guns ready, was acting strange or was building a f*cking bomb upstairs. They say they didn't know sh*t and they're off the hook. It's everything else, but never the parents. The only involvement of video games is the parents that ignore their kids and put them in front of the console to keep them silent. It's also cute how they want to give weapons to every teacher and earn millions with it. Edited March 8 by fashion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nem_Wan 765 Posted March 8 The White House announced Take-Two Interactive and Rockstar Games CEO Strauss Zelnick is among those attending President Trumps meeting today to discuss violent video-game exposure and the correlation to aggression and desensitization in children according to CNN reporter Jake Tapper https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/971726411596730368 More from Polygon: https://www.polygon.com/2018/3/8/17095178/who-is-going-trump-video-games-meeting-white-house Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Scratch 10,888 Posted March 8 Gee, I wonder if Thompson is going to show up to tell his mom how bad her son is again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matrelith 6,272 Posted March 8 If anyone can convince Trump videogames don't cause violence, it's Rockstar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feckyerlife 3,040 Posted March 8 If anyone can convince Trump videogames don't cause violence, it's Rockstar. They beat Hillary when she tried this, they can beat Trump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tokasmoka 393 Posted March 8 It's that god dang vidya game the boy always seems to be playin' I tell you whut. That boy aint right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Yokel 5,705 Posted March 8 The White House announced Take-Two Interactive and Rockstar Games CEO Strauss Zelnick is among those attending President Trumps meeting today to discuss violent video-game exposure and the correlation to aggression and desensitization in children according to CNN reporter Jake Tapper https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/971726411596730368 More from Polygon: https://www.polygon.com/2018/3/8/17095178/who-is-going-trump-video-games-meeting-white-house These idiots aren't helping. In fact they're making it look like the criticism is legitimate. They should have just ignored the idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hmmm nice bike 3,638 Posted March 8 The White House announced Take-Two Interactive and Rockstar Games CEO Strauss Zelnick is among those attending President Trumps meeting today to discuss violent video-game exposure and the correlation to aggression and desensitization in children according to CNN reporter Jake Tapper https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/971726411596730368 More from Polygon: https://www.polygon.com/2018/3/8/17095178/who-is-going-trump-video-games-meeting-white-house These idiots aren't helping. In fact they're making it look like the criticism is legitimate. They should have just ignored the idiot.Honestly, all they're probably going to do is sit aroind listening to Trump ramble on and repeating himself. "We have to get smart," "We are going to change things," etc. He also suggested a ratings system of some kind a week or two ago, I'm sure that'll come up. Great idea though, they should call it something like the Entertainment Software Ratings Board! Oh wait... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Yokel 5,705 Posted March 8 (edited) I can't wait for Rockstar to utterly demolish Trump in the next GTA. You just have to know that they will parody the sh*t out of him. Edited March 8 by Darth Yokel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voodoo 36,607 Posted March 8 I wouldn't worry too much. This administration can't even find its own dick. Trump was just talking out of his ass as per usual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feckyerlife 3,040 Posted March 8 The White House announced Take-Two Interactive and Rockstar Games CEO Strauss Zelnick is among those attending President Trumps meeting today to discuss violent video-game exposure and the correlation to aggression and desensitization in children according to CNN reporter Jake Tapper https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/971726411596730368 More from Polygon: https://www.polygon.com/2018/3/8/17095178/who-is-going-trump-video-games-meeting-white-house These idiots aren't helping. In fact they're making it look like the criticism is legitimate. They should have just ignored the idiot.Honestly, all they're probably going to do is sit aroind listening to Trump ramble on and repeating himself. "We have to get smart," "We are going to change things," etc. He also suggested a ratings system of some kind a week or two ago, I'm sure that'll come up. Great idea though, they should call it something like the Entertainment Software Ratings Board! Oh wait... what they will end up doing is having all games with any type of violence in them start at the highest rating Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarksunDaFirst 179 Posted March 8 (edited) "Video games do not cause violence. Lag does." "Video games don't kill people. People kill people (often times with guns)". "Never bring a video game to a gun fight." Edited March 8 by DarksunDaFirst Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hmmm nice bike 3,638 Posted March 8 what they will end up doing is having all games with any type of violence in them start at the highest ratingI can see it now. "Lego Star Wars: rated M for Mature" It's sad how much of Saints Row 1's parody of conservative talk radio once again remains relevant beyond 2006. [/YouTube]Maybe they really will propose that a company makes a violent video game about Jesus and require you to always play the good guy in all games. I can actually picture these suggestions from the current administration, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feckyerlife 3,040 Posted March 8 (edited) "Video games do not cause violence. Lag does." "Video games don't kill people. People kill people (often times with guns)". "Never bring a video game to a gun fight." well too be honest i have seen quite a few fist fights over video games. Edited March 8 by feckyerlife Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ARTHUR. 16,095 Posted March 8 I can't wait for Rockstar to utterly demolish Trump in the next GTA. You just have to know that they will parody the sh*t out of him. I hope they don't. He's a low hanging fruit at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JON22 3,046 Posted March 8 The only violence caused by games is written verbal abuse by fanboys(girls) on a gaming forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carbonox 784 Posted March 8 I can't wait for Rockstar to utterly demolish Trump in the next GTA. You just have to know that they will parody the sh*t out of him. GTA Next would need to be actually made first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otter 7,876 Posted March 8 (edited) Given that there's evidence these days that media does, in fact, impact behavior and mores in some specific ways - perhaps it's time to retire our knee-jerk balking reactions to these sorts of claims? At least engaging with the possibility that we can be susceptible to messages PARTICULARLY when any critical thinking is immediately burned at the stake like a feminist witch or Jack Thompson type? I guess maybe that's a larger problem - pretending that anything is above/beyond critical thinking is f*cking assinine and then to say it's both beyond critical reproach AND held to zero accountability, we're just setting ourselves up for more over-reactions in the future. edit - plz don't burn me guys I'm just advocating for the devil Edited March 8 by Otter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaise 61 Posted March 8 (edited) What about violent movies and cartoons? What about music that glorifies sex, drugs, money and violence? This is just a scapegoat Trump is using, our world is built around glorifying violence as entertainment and that won't change anytime soon. Throughout human history we've always killed each other so trying to blame video games now won't solve anything. Honestly since video games have been created we've entered maybe our most peaceful time as a species, so blaming them has never made sense to me, it's just a scapegoat. Edited March 8 by Chaise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigereyesxx 368 Posted March 9 Isis must be watching a hell of a lot of video games... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ClaudeSpeed1911 3,476 Posted March 9 (edited) Video shows a lot of nazi's getting killed. That must be why they are mad. But seriously, a f*cking game montage on the damn official WH youtube channel??? Edited March 9 by ClaudeSpeed1911 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KY Jello 7,800 Posted March 9 It's funny that GTA wasn't included in that vid. Strauss Zelnick is trying to put the blame on the competition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexander 1,882 Posted March 9 (edited) Given that there's evidence these days that media does, in fact, impact behavior and mores in some specific ways - perhaps it's time to retire our knee-jerk balking reactions to these sorts of claims? The problem with these claims is that usually they solely focus on videogames as the problem. Yes, media can in fact negatively impact behaviour, specially on kids. But the thing is that the violence in games plays a very minor role, while being presented as if it was the main issue. Millions of people play videogames every day, yet the shootings occur in an alarming rate in US. Why is that? is it because videogames are violent only in the US and as soon as they cross the border, Stardew Valley turns into a copy of Manhunt? Or maybe is it because the weak regulations on gun ownership and background checks, along with a culture that for some backward reasoning seems to reinforce ideas like freaking war rifles are perfectly ok in the hands of civilians? not sure about you but the former is just laughable for me. It should be noted that, as Yokel mentioned, the pressure right now is not because they're trying to tackle the actual problem of mass shootings, but instead they're trying to shift the focus from the very needed gun control and putting the blame on their old scapegoat: violence in videogames. This is what it's just, for a lack of a better word, crazy. They don't seem to know how big this problem is. IMO if you're not at the very least insulted by how things are being handled (they're risking human lives for the sake of filling their pockets with sweet nra money), you're a part of the problem, you're letting them get away with this. And let's not talk about the people actively supporting them, crying for muh right to bear arms. E: I wouldn't worry too much. This administration can't even find its own dick. Trump was just talking out of his ass as per usual. ye admins suck :^) Edited March 9 by Alexander Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
