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Journey_95

What do you think about Trevor?

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SchizNitz
I've been playing through GTA V again recently and I have to say Trevor certainly had some potential as an interesting character, but overall just ends up becoming the butt of jokes to the point where almost none of his deeper moments can be taken seriously.


One of the best examples of Trevor at his prime, what his character should've been (at least in my opinion) is shown in his conversation with Lamar during Pack Man, and in the starting cut-scene of Fresh Meat with Franklin. In both of these scenes there is a level of reasonable anger and frustration, actual emotion that can be felt within Trevor after Bury the Hatchet, along with a stubborn coldness that can be heard in his tone of voice. He actually gets some real character development and even briefly references himself having a difficult upbringing (even if it is at an odd moment to be brought up). In both of these missions he isn't just crazy for the sake of being crazy, but instead there is an actual cause and reason for him to act out aggressively. It also feels like he's on the verge of losing control but is holding it back, having an internal struggle within himself to fight back against his mental issues (if he actually does have a mental condition).

There was another moment where I switched to Trevor and he was intoxicated, lying on a beach with a drink in his hand, and I kind of felt bad for him as it potentially alluded to his mental issues, depression and alcoholism, but then I was completely taken out of it and my suspension of disbelief ruined as he stood and said some dumb one liner. The whole situation just became a joke and any thoughts I had regarding to the context of Trevor waking up drunk on a beach just disappeared because the game fails to take any of its potential more meaningful moments seriously.


It's just disappointing Trevor ended up so inconsistent. I think it would've been more interesting if Rockstar had of decided to explore the themes surrounding Trevor's mental issues and his struggles with them in a more serious manner instead of having him pull off one liners, randomly flushing body parts down toilets and eating reheated eyeball stew for the sake of lulz. Hell the could've even completely ignored most of Trevor's feelings and made him just a completely morally bankrupt psychopath, but done so in a consistent manner. I guess it represents a larger problem with GTA V overall, as the game does sort of present themes and little bits of social commentary, but never explores any of them very well or just wants to make a joke of it all to the point where nothing of value can be taken away from the experience of the game.

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Official General

I can see where you are coming from but I wouldnt really be comfortable playing as a kiddie killer who also has a fetish for gore and dismemberment. He also has a really f*cked up childhood with a parents who abused him sexually. However, with Trevor, he seems to know when to stop and also had a rough childhood with abusive parents rather than a f*cked up one like Eddie.

 

I have to admit there is no way I'd wanna play as Eddie Low, but I get the other parts of Anthony's post.

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NumberNineLarge

I think he's the best character in the entire series. Don't mess with Trevor. He's also much more intelligent than he sometimes appears. Hood Safari is an example of that.

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Sleepwalking

I love how people hate Trevor but when they get into GTA online they become more asshole than Trevor, lol.

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Mocozmo

Trevor's one of the most bizarre characters I've ever played as. If you think he's completely psycho 100% he has quite a few moments of rational thought and funny dialogue that's not about him whipping his dick out. But then he'll go completely batsh*t 5 minutes later.

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Cutter De Blanc

Trevor is great fun, but EDDIELOWFILTHSLAYER is still my favorite psycho in the series

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DylRicho

I instantly knew that I'd play as him most of the time. When I saw the trailer for his character, I was reminded of the good days of previous protagonists. Michael doesn't really fit in with any of them, and Franklin can only be compared to CJ.

 

His sense of humor is great. I love it. His personality fits perfectly with a game like this.

 

I imagine myself becoming like him (though less of a murderer, obviously) as I approach my mid-life crisis. :lol:

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Ertan Soner

Overrated character, he is sometimes funny...that is it.

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VVipeSide

I like him for most of the reasons people here hate him for.

GTA V's story has its issues and the character development as well.

On their own...M, T and F can't compete with a Niko Bellic, Gerry or Packie (so stupid how Packie has just these nostalgia lines and acts like a generic goon when he was a fully fleshed out character in GTA 4 with protagonist potential).

 

I see the whole ensemble. Like id, ego and superego.

Franklin just stopped being interesting after the 1st heist.

Michael and Trevor keep the game vivid for better or worse.

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iiCriminnaaL 49

Bump.

 

I don't feel like writing an essay of why I dislike his character, especially since everybody already recognizes how unlikable, goofy and inconsistent he is, but in brief: he could've been executed in a similar psychopath level of Ricardo Diaz on Mikhail Faustin. The former is even a calmer psychopath.

 

However, I still think that Trevor could've made a better antagonist than protagonist either way. He realizes that Michael betrayed him (and I can see why), so he progressively becomes more aggressive towards him, eventually becoming the main antagonist within the half of the story. Unfortunately, he only becomes an antagonist in Ending A, which means only during an optional choice of the very last mission of the story.

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Just now, iiCriminnaaL 49 said:

Bump.

 

I don't feel like writing an essay of why I dislike his character, especially since everybody already recognizes how unlikable, goofy and inconsistent he is, but in brief: he could've been executed in a similar psychopath level of Ricardo Diaz on Mikhail Faustin. The former is even a calmer psychopath.

 

However, I still think that Trevor could've made a better antagonist than protagonist either way. He realizes that Michael betrayed him (and I can see why), so he progressively becomes more aggressive towards him, eventually becoming the main antagonist within the half of the story. Unfortunately, he only becomes an antagonist in Ending A, which means only during an optional choice of the very last mission of the story.

Couldn't agree more. 

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ChiroVette

Trevor is one of my all time favorite GTA characters. I know he gets some hate in this forum, but the thing is that even when GTA is grounded and realistic it is still a sandbox where you can absolutely make some insane, wacky, over-the-top sh*t happen and cause such psychotic mass destruction that Trevor, to me, is the most honest character, fitting perfectly in with that theme. I think another thing that makes him fantastic is the way he is offset by Michael and Franklin. The three are an incredibly divergent triumvirate, and they really complement each other so well. I know that, given the A and B ending, Franklin is meant to be seen as the canonical center of the story. But I honestly feel like Trevor is the glue that holds it all together. Everyone plays off of him.

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TheSantader25

One of the better GTA Protagonists R* have created. I hated him pre release. Loved him after release because he was more than what I expected. The only part R* f*cked up was his interaction with Madrazo which really ruined Madrazo's character. Shame. GTA V would be absolutely dreadful without him. He keeps the game going. Brilliant character which is loved by many and hated by many. But a heavily splitted fanbase for him was expected anyways due to his personality. 

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Shadowphanto

I feel that Trevor is a somewhat inconsistent character. Sometimes he has clear (relatively) thought, and sometimes he just goes flat out crazy. We were never really given an explanation as to his hatred for the bikers, besides them being competitors (Heck, they're a group and Trevor is only one guy yet he manages to take out all of them). Overall I felt that at times he's too much to bear and I just skip the cutscenes with him in it (especially that one where he goes back to the condo to kill Floyd and his girlfriend)..

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billiejoearmstrong8

I think he's a good character but had the potential to be better if they toned down the silliness and focused more on the dark/serious side of things (same with other characters and the entire story but the wasted potential is particularly clear in Trevor). Unfortunately because the silly side is played up too much he's often seen as just a wacky/crazy joke character but you can see there's much more going on than that. It's interesting for a start that he's Canadian rather than just some redneck, that he's intelligent, witty, and in some ways moral and loyal and wants affection but ultimately is damaged and disturbed with severe anger and aggression issues. And this leads him to live a hedonistic lifestyle that only exacerbates his damaged/disturbed behaviour. He's played brilliantly by Steven Ogg and you can tell he put a lot of effort into the more complex and emotional side of his character. Unfortunately the writers chose to make him into too much of a joke and didn't write a story that was compelling enough to make him as good a character as he could've been and fully explore that complex side. There are times when the writing/story direction is good and he shines (usually in darker moments) and he's my second favourite GTA protagonist after Niko due to that, just wish it was that way consistently. 

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Yinepi

Trevor is one of only two protagonists in the series that aren't total hypocrites. Trevor is the embodiment of what a person would have to be like in reality to do the things you can do in GTA. Trevor suffers from PTSD, as well as Split personality and psychosis. You bundle this with abandonment issues (part of the PTSD, which all goes back to his former pilot days where his dream and passion in life was rejected and from also having absent parents) and, of course, the drug abuse.

To understand and like Trevor as a character you have to understand mental illnesses deeply and possibly even have to suffer from it. And that is where people typically start to hate Trevor. Societal norms dictate serious mental illnesses as being a near-taboo subject. So there is no doubt a subconscious fear in play that they may just end up seeing a part of themselves in Trevor.
 

Taking it a step further, the game takes place in a fictional LA-based city, a type of city where celebrities and rich folk (like Micheal) tend to get therapy simply for the fact they're caught up in their own mind. While you have people like Micheal who tend to neglect their treatment by creating and falsifying their perspectives and are actually consciously aware they're doing it, but still keep doing it, you then have people like Trevor who genuinely act on impulse because they're genuinely unaware of how much all of the trauma in their life has effected their perspective of the world.

 

Rockstar are genius writers, and Trevor certainly wasn't a badly written character when one looks at it from different angles.

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billiejoearmstrong8
2 hours ago, Yinepi said:


To understand and like Trevor as a character you have to understand mental illnesses deeply and possibly even have to suffer from it. And that is where people typically start to hate Trevor. Societal norms dictate serious mental illnesses as being a near-taboo subject. So there is no doubt a subconscious fear in play that they may just end up seeing a part of themselves in Trevor.

Tbh I don't think that's why people dislike him. I think it's because they added too much silliness/wackiness and it make him seem like just a joke over the top crazy guy to a lot of people with the serious reasons behind his personality and behaviour and the darker side of his character taking a back seat.

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TheSantader25
4 minutes ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

Tbh I don't think that's why people dislike him. I think it's because they added too much silliness/wackiness and it make him seem like just a joke over the top crazy guy who is basically a clown to a lot of people with the serious reasons behind his personality and behaviour and the darker side of his character taking a back seat.

Unfortunately I think most people just couldn't understand his personality and just saw him as "this crazy funny psycho". A Shame really. 

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billiejoearmstrong8
1 minute ago, TheSantader25 said:

Unfortunately I think most people just couldn't understand his personality and just saw him as "this crazy funny psycho". A Shame really. 

Yeah like I can see a lot more going on than that and always thought he was one of the most interesting GTA characters. Bit of a shame to go online and see he's mostly seen as a clown. I do think it's the writer's fault for focusing too much on the silly side of things though, they just didn't get the fun/serious balance right.

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danosky

He grew on me as the story progressed. At first he was just an unhinged psycho who killed Johnny. But then, amidst his crazy antics and some moments, he starts developing as a character. The moment I realized he was more complex than I thought was when he told Michael that he mourned him. The voice actor really nailed that line, delivered it with audible pain and anger in his voice.

 

His cut-scenes also made me laugh at some of the stuff he did.

 

Maybe the reason I liked him was that I didn't expect a completely realistic character in a GTA game, but rather an exaggeration of a character, much like the GTA world is an exaggeration or satire of our world.

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Charlesalb8777
On 2/7/2018 at 2:37 AM, Typhus said:

Literally every single time he was on screen doing his whole shtick, I had this internally playing in my head:

 

How do you go from Grand Theft Auto IV talking about PTSD and the existence of the human soul, to making people feel tangibly embarrassed at the poor writing and hokey characters? It's not just a drop in quality, it's the equivalent of sowing yourself inside a suitcase and jumping off a cliff.

I think the biggest problem about GTA V Story and Characters is the fact that GTA V has 3 protagonists with 69 missions, no sh*t, you cant have good writing with only 69 missions with 3 protagonists, not even 15 missions more would justifiy the rest, i mean did R* maded another make with multiple protagonists? Nope

 

If guess if they scrapped Franklin or Trevor and have GTA V with 2 protagonists (Michael with Trevor or Franklin) with like 84 missions it could have good story with good character development, but i dont think more missions could fix the story

 

 

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Copcaller

Hes okay he has some funny moments but him punking out a cartel boss and not getting a Columbian necktie seemed ridiclous. His relationship with Michael was interesting and he had valid points but their arguments got old quick I was like yes thank you when lamar told him to stfu and quit whining.

 

Overall he was too inconsitent probably as a result of Vs limited missions he was portrayed as being hell on earth in dialogue but idk he failed to live up to it in a believable manner

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StreetSweeper
On 2/7/2018 at 10:40 AM, Tycek said:

Trevor on other hand is clearly based on something called Borderline Personality Syndrome and his every act and thought in the game is taken from said illness. It creates quite funny paradox, because character with no personality has a personality disorder.

 

To be diagnosed with aforementioned syndrome, you have to show 3 of 10 of specific signs, yet Trevor has all of them at the same time. In real life he would be closed in psychiatric hospital for rest of his life as extremely specific case not able to live in society, but here he's cool and funny protagonist.

 

I had relationship with BPD girl, and you can trust me on 100% it was f*cking awful, and kind of destroyed me, for first yes Trev seems like that but he is clearly a typical gta gamer person, he do crazy stuff, kill people, animals and stuff, but he is not borderline at all, just because I for sure know, there is a kind of borderline PD character in game, a random eccounter stranger called Ursula, she is more or less borderline but Trevor is just crazy character with low life typical stuff person - his father, hooker of mother, bullying, killing animals, and do drugs, there is nothing psychological in him for having such a huge PD, more like he is just sociopathic character than psychotic loser. 

Anyway Ogg and R* writes did a great job, truly one borderline thing is the fact that he is extremly complex well crafted character, with really low life humour and psycho stuff literally for gameplay puprose. 

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Ryo256

Despite my dislike for Trevor, I have massive respect and love for Steven Ogg. I feel like the way Trevor was written (along with other protags), it does feel like a disservice to the awesome voice actors.

 

Now my issue with Trevor is that he feels less like a character and instead feels more like a bag of random personalities. I have a theory on how to fix that which I'm not gonna discuss unless insisted upon but instead first I wanna point out the various Trevors we see in the game:

1. Bully Trevor (mostly how he is with everyone especially Floyd, Wade and Ron).
2. Free-spirit Rogue Trevor (this is how he is in the Strangers and Freak missions)
3. Intelligent friend (How he is with the other protags especially Michael)
4. Emotionally unstable Trevor (Some cases especially like when he killed Floyd and his girl or even threatened Franklin for laughing at him).

Now I'm not sure which Trevor is well.....the real one though. People argue that just makes Trevor a complex character but unfortunately his transition between these different personalities is not smooth enough. You can see how Michaels, the intelligent experienced criminal can go to being an angry sociopath but you can't see it coming from Trevor.

Furthermore different personalities is why people have different opinions about him, people who praise him only seems to remember the Free-spirit Rogue or the Intelligent friend when they talk about Trevor and people who abhor him seems to remember the Bully Trevor or the unstable one. Overall if you see all of his sides, he is an well, okay character that you can feel for but I think he is a bigger problem than anyone in the game because you just don't know who he is gonna piss off next and create another problem for everyone.

But one thing for sure, he is definitely not as honest or loyal as he claims to be. He shown to be as much of a hypocrite as Michaels e.g not telling him about the Hillbillies until Michaels has killed them for him, telling Franklin to laugh at himself yet gets angry when he laughed at him and he straight out took over and killed business clients he had such as the Lost, the Aztecas and Hiblillies despite them being straight with him. 

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HelloMyNameIsHuman

I know real people like Trevor, fwiw.

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Tengerecki
On 2/9/2018 at 6:43 PM, Journey_95 said:

I agree but Rockstar tried too hard to make Trevor appear as a badass imho. Like butchering Johnnys character or turning Madrazzo into a bitch all of a sudden was just Bad writing.

 

At least Eddie Low is actually terrifying

Lol Niko would sh*t on Eddie Low any time of the day.

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Charlesalb8777
On 7/21/2019 at 2:36 PM, Ryo256 said:

Despite my dislike for Trevor, I have massive respect and love for Steven Ogg. I feel like the way Trevor was written (along with other protags), it does feel like a disservice to the awesome voice actors.

 

Now my issue with Trevor is that he feels less like a character and instead feels more like a bag of random personalities. I have a theory on how to fix that which I'm not gonna discuss unless insisted upon but instead first I wanna point out the various Trevors we see in the game:

1. Bully Trevor (mostly how he is with everyone especially Floyd, Wade and Ron).
2. Free-spirit Rogue Trevor (this is how he is in the Strangers and Freak missions)
3. Intelligent friend (How he is with the other protags especially Michael)
4. Emotionally unstable Trevor (Some cases especially like when he killed Floyd and his girl or even threatened Franklin for laughing at him).

Now I'm not sure which Trevor is well.....the real one though. People argue that just makes Trevor a complex character but unfortunately his transition between these different personalities is not smooth enough. You can see how Michaels, the intelligent experienced criminal can go to being an angry sociopath but you can't see it coming from Trevor.

Furthermore different personalities is why people have different opinions about him, people who praise him only seems to remember the Free-spirit Rogue or the Intelligent friend when they talk about Trevor and people who abhor him seems to remember the Bully Trevor or the unstable one. Overall if you see all of his sides, he is an well, okay character that you can feel for but I think he is a bigger problem than anyone in the game because you just don't know who he is gonna piss off next and create another problem for everyone.

But one thing for sure, he is definitely not as honest or loyal as he claims to be. He shown to be as much of a hypocrite as Michaels e.g not telling him about the Hillbillies until Michaels has killed them for him, telling Franklin to laugh at himself yet gets angry when he laughed at him and he straight out took over and killed business clients he had such as the Lost, the Aztecas and Hiblillies despite them being straight with him. 

Yep, but i cant see how you can humanize a phychopath, like somebody say before; He was overdone, plus he is also unrealistic and overwhelming

 

The 3 protagonists thing is what really hurted the characters and the story, i mean bring me a game that provided great story and characters with 3 protagonists

 
psychopath

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GinsengElixir

Trevor was the most truthful character in game. Everything he did or said came from the heart. 

 

If he wasn't in the game or was just an antagonist the game would've fallen flat given how atrociously written the other two are. 

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JC_HUMBLE

T gets to much hate... he's the most humble of the trio, he loved Michael and his family. There's so much from his character than just a psycho... 

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UndeadPotat0

Not Canadian enough.

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