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Journey_95

City vs countryside- How should it be handled in GTA VI?

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More city, less countryside.

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jpm1
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for me a big countryside is important. not because of the stuntjumps (even if they can be cool), but for relaxation. i want a small shack in a swamp, where i could just sit, watch around and relax. i want, i need this. and about the city, the city in solo is pretty much cool. i mean it doesn't have to blush in front of LC. GTAO, for obvious hardware restrictions has been spoiled of a lot of details. but in solo, the city isn't bad at all. if you contemplate LS from a plane, you can see that the city is pretty huge

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.Smaher.

I’d love more than one city + countryside.

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Johnny Spaz
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I'd rather them skip countryside and just go full head on with the city, unless they do the countryside like in San Andreas, where you can actually get lost in the forests, and with the eerie Back o Beyond feel added into it, if not, then don't bother.

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TheGeneralZarbin

For me they have to get a better balance between both the countryside and the city or cities. V was a good game overall i think but the map design didnt have the right level of balance.

 

I hope the same as others that they look and learn from when they got it spot on in the past with San Andreas.

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Algonquin Assassin
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Basically every open world nowadays is dominated by countryside it's become tiresome. I miss 100% city focussed maps like GTA III, GTA IV, LA Noire etc.

 

Countryside's so boring and uninteresting to me no matter how pretty it looks. In San Andreas it was ok as it served as a thoroughfare to get from city to city, but if I'm honest I never spent hours exploring as looking at the same trees and empty fields wore pretty thin.

 

It's one of the reasons I don't like doing the countryside missions and GTA V's is poorly designed feeling like it's there for the sake of it. So yeah. Give me a concrete jungle thanks.

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Sinner!
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After playing Far Cry 5 I wouldn't mind if there was no rural location included, don't get me wrong it's beautiful & fun to explore for a period but the novelty wears off a lot quicker than a more vibrant City location.

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Tao Cheng

10% city 50% beaches 130% swamp. You must shoot 500 small 1x1 pixelated mosquitoes (no autoaim) that fly in inconsistent flow as a form of hidden packages to save Vice City from a virus disease.

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MDNA

I'd rather have it somewhat like San Andreas;

at least two big cities, a big desert area, a rural area and a mountainous area.
That'd be great fun. I'd love some big lakes or rivers as well.

 

As for the cities, I'd love one to be very vibrant and busy, like Las Venturas, and one a bit more laidback.

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zuckmeslow

it depends. if the game takes place in liberty city then i would love for it to be 80% city with a small amount of open grass/ small towns to the north in the area that is the hudson valley. if it takes place in las venturas then i wouldnt mind a big city in the middle surrounded by a huge desert.

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Mr_Rager

Just make it feel distant from the other cities. MAFIA did this beautifully. Going into the countryside in that game feels like a journey.

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TheOneLibertonian
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The city is the biggest party piece in all of the GTA's. I'd be very disappointed if GTA would have a map dominated with a countryside again. A giant metropolis will always be more interesting than a rural town or countryside.

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Official General
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Basically every open world nowadays is dominated by countryside it's become tiresome. I miss 100% city focussed maps like GTA III, GTA IV, LA Noire etc.

 

Countryside's so boring and uninteresting to me no matter how pretty it looks. In San Andreas it was ok as it served as a thoroughfare to get from city to city, but if I'm honest I never spent hours exploring as looking at the same trees and empty fields wore pretty thin.

 

It's one of the reasons I don't like doing the countryside missions and GTA V's is poorly designed feeling like it's there for the sake of it. So yeah. Give me a concrete jungle thanks.

 

I agree to some extent. Continuous exploration of the countryside is very nice at first because you're surveying new vast swathes of uncharted territories and landscape and it's just general fun to explore. But the novelty wears off very quick, and it does very soon get a bit boring - especially if there is not much to do within the countryside, with V being the most classical example. I'd very much rather prefer much more city than countryside, and I aint gonna lie, I had much more fun exploring Liberty City in IV than I did with Los Santos in V, simple because LC was pure big city environment, which for me made it much more vibrant and interesting to explore. I just find city environments much more fun and interesting than countryside in general.

 

Having said that though, I still would rather some countryside at least. I would still like to see enough variety for the option of travelling from city to countryside/small towns. San Andreas did that combination best for me, and what I liked about it still had a number of things to do - you could do the oil tanker missions, the trucking missions, gamble in the betting shop, chase the courier and more.

 

But for V, as beautifully detailed as it looked, a lot of it was a colossal waste in my eyes - I'd rather have seen a much bigger LS, and with more interiors.

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Algonquin Assassin
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I agree to some extent. Continuous exploration of the countryside is very nice at first because you're surveying new vast swathes of uncharted territories and landscape and it's just general fun to explore. But the novelty wears off very quick, and it does very soon get a bit boring - especially if there is not much to do within the countryside, with V being the most classical example. I'd very much rather prefer much more city than countryside, and I aint gonna lie, I had much more fun exploring Liberty City in IV than I did with Los Santos in V, simple because LC was pure big city environment, which for me made it much more vibrant and interesting to explore. I just find city environments much more fun and interesting than countryside in general.

 

Having said that though, I still would rather some countryside at least. I would still like to see enough variety for the option of travelling from city to countryside/small towns. San Andreas did that combination best for me, and what I liked about it still had a number of things to do - you could do the oil tanker missions, the trucking missions, gamble in the betting shop, chase the courier and more.

 

But for V, as beautifully detailed as it looked, a lot of it was a colossal waste in my eyes - I'd rather have seen a much bigger LS, and with more interiors.

 

 

I will say one thing though if GTA VI does have countryside I hope it encapsulates the feeling of isolation as good as San Andreas did. In GTA V the countryside often feels a bit too populated. In San Andreas the lack of wildlife actually made it feel more disconnected from civilisation which isn't a bad thing. It just added more atmosphere and creepyness to it.

 

With GTA V no matter where you are on the map you never truly feel alone. San Andreas done a great job in that respect even if the map's not as big. Clever design processes and placement went a long way.

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Official General

 

I agree to some extent. Continuous exploration of the countryside is very nice at first because you're surveying new vast swathes of uncharted territories and landscape and it's just general fun to explore. But the novelty wears off very quick, and it does very soon get a bit boring - especially if there is not much to do within the countryside, with V being the most classical example. I'd very much rather prefer much more city than countryside, and I aint gonna lie, I had much more fun exploring Liberty City in IV than I did with Los Santos in V, simple because LC was pure big city environment, which for me made it much more vibrant and interesting to explore. I just find city environments much more fun and interesting than countryside in general.

 

Having said that though, I still would rather some countryside at least. I would still like to see enough variety for the option of travelling from city to countryside/small towns. San Andreas did that combination best for me, and what I liked about it still had a number of things to do - you could do the oil tanker missions, the trucking missions, gamble in the betting shop, chase the courier and more.

 

But for V, as beautifully detailed as it looked, a lot of it was a colossal waste in my eyes - I'd rather have seen a much bigger LS, and with more interiors.

 

I will say one thing though if GTA VI does have countryside I hope it encapsulates the feeling of isolation as good as San Andreas did. In GTA V the countryside often feels a bit too populated. In San Andreas the lack of wildlife actually made it feel more disconnected from civilisation which isn't a bad thing. It just added more atmosphere and creepyness to it.

 

With GTA V no matter where you are on the map you never truly feel alone. San Andreas done a great job in that respect even if the map's not as big. Clever design processes and placement went a long way.

I really wished IV had some countryside. Not in sense of farmland and remote wilderness, but enough to distinguish it from city areas complete with a handful of small towns, similar the suburban towns in the heavily wooded areas seen in real life New Jersey and upstate New York.

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TheHolyNZF
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Simple; make it unpredictable and active. It should be teeming with dangerous animals and rural gangs running wild. Some parts of it could be totally lawless as well as having no phone signal preventing unwanted interference. They could throw in some weirdos roaming around in the woods at night and abandoned ghost towns with hidden secrets to find. It should be a very different place at night to day, but that should really go for the city as well.

 

Basically give the country some character instead of being just a waste of memory in order to tick off the big map box.

 

Thank you.

 

Size does not matter if it's junk anyways.

 

I want for the next GTA:

 

  • a couple of cities
  • multiple islands
  • some big lakes
  • Beaches, both cliff and sand
  • Huge desert / wastelands
  • Multple different forest and swamp biomes
  • Fields
  • Interiors and interactions in each and every different zone ; a reason for everything to exist.
  • Eateries from hot Dog carts to Ice Cream vans to cafes to high-end restaurants.
  • Friend activities from GTA IV - now with Online revolution, these could for the first time ever make sense.
  • Highways, and efficient and semi-realistic aircraft, to sort-of fast travel.

Just the tip of the iceberg. Most of all, I want GTA to take a little break (2013-2023?) to allow for new ideas and competition arise to rise the expectations

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Catskill

I think having the option is cool. I see what some people mean about they're tired of countryside/rural areas as it's been done so much but to me it just adds variety.

 

San Andreas by far made the best use out of having countryside, as we used it to get from one city to another. Hopefully in the next GTA we'll see multiple cities which would make a countryside/rural/desert/mountainous area have a purpose. The rural part of GTA V was utilised horrendously which has probably put a lot of people off.

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Algonquin Assassin

 

 

I agree to some extent. Continuous exploration of the countryside is very nice at first because you're surveying new vast swathes of uncharted territories and landscape and it's just general fun to explore. But the novelty wears off very quick, and it does very soon get a bit boring - especially if there is not much to do within the countryside, with V being the most classical example. I'd very much rather prefer much more city than countryside, and I aint gonna lie, I had much more fun exploring Liberty City in IV than I did with Los Santos in V, simple because LC was pure big city environment, which for me made it much more vibrant and interesting to explore. I just find city environments much more fun and interesting than countryside in general.

 

Having said that though, I still would rather some countryside at least. I would still like to see enough variety for the option of travelling from city to countryside/small towns. San Andreas did that combination best for me, and what I liked about it still had a number of things to do - you could do the oil tanker missions, the trucking missions, gamble in the betting shop, chase the courier and more.

 

But for V, as beautifully detailed as it looked, a lot of it was a colossal waste in my eyes - I'd rather have seen a much bigger LS, and with more interiors.

I will say one thing though if GTA VI does have countryside I hope it encapsulates the feeling of isolation as good as San Andreas did. In GTA V the countryside often feels a bit too populated. In San Andreas the lack of wildlife actually made it feel more disconnected from civilisation which isn't a bad thing. It just added more atmosphere and creepyness to it.

 

With GTA V no matter where you are on the map you never truly feel alone. San Andreas done a great job in that respect even if the map's not as big. Clever design processes and placement went a long way.

I really wished IV had some countryside. Not in sense of farmland and remote wilderness, but enough to distinguish it from city areas complete with a handful of small towns, similar the suburban towns in the heavily wooded areas seen in real life New Jersey and upstate New York.

 

Despite what I say about countryside being boring and uniteresting I wouldn't have been upset with some in GTA IV. I just prefer cities and have the best memories of them.

 

Maybe we might see Liberty State, The Carraways etc in the future.

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DirtCheap

I am actually wondering what a countryside in the State of Liberty would have looked like.

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Catskill
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I am actually wondering what a countryside in the State of Liberty would have looked like.

 

Probably similar to Chilliad state wilderness/Paleto Bay

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Hmmm nice bike
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I am actually wondering what a countryside in the State of Liberty would have looked like.

I think it'd depend on which way they'd want to expand the map to include other parts of the state. If they wanted to go east and connect it to Dukes, then we'd have random suburbs and small towns with fields, small forests and farms inbetween, and then the Carraways (based on the Hamptons) located at the far-end of it. All based on Long Island, or "East Island" as it's probably referred to in the game (the area based on Long Island City in Queens is called "East Island City"). Upstate Liberty, which would connect to Bohan, would also have small towns, farms and forests, but with more mountains. A Niagara Falls replica at the far end of that map would be awesome, too!

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ColePhelps

San Andreas did it the best for me, driving from Los Santos to SF felt like a trip and a half whichever way you took it and you always felt away from civilization other than the small towns in between.

V the countryside felt like a waste of space, the prison, cannibal camp, mt chiliad, paleto and the rest of the mountains were just practically useless.. would have rather had a larger city with enterable interiors

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.Smaher.

Its not a waste if there was a town at the top of the map. Not a city, but if theres something there at all, then it cant be a waste.

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ColePhelps

There was literally 1 mission in paleto and nothing else, waste of space as far as i'm concerned

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Hmmm nice bike
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It also felt like there was no real reason to even venture out there. The countryside felt kind of half-assed. And even though SA's countryside was smaller, you felt way more isolated and it felt like it took longer to get places. In V, you're always near civilization no matter what. There's always random houses, warehouses, stores, roads passing through, etc.

 

I also think the placement of the desert was beyond weird. It's a small desert that happens to be surrounded by non-desert mountains and grasslands? In real life, the area that Sandy Shores is based on is located southeast of Los Angeles. In fact, it's much closer to San Diego than LA. Along the coastline is where you get lush vegetation and stuff like that, and then east when you get closer to Arizona is the desert.

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AdvangeMarius

To be honest, the city would be big and the countryside is also gigantic but you see in Russia country, remote area, village anywhere. I wish they have such design on this

 

classical-russian-village-view-2.jpg

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MuffinMcFluffin

I think one of the big problems is the word "countryside." When they make it, they do nothing but farms, hick towns, and bungalos. Where is the more general sprawl that brings about the discrepancy between the main city area and said countryside? They don't really have that in GTA V. They could definitely do a lot better with this.

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MARKUS.
On 2/1/2018 at 8:46 AM, CT1612 said:

San Andreas still had the best map design. It felt much larger than it was.

 

This. Even a smaller countryside than GTA V with multiple cities can make it look far more interesting and give the impression that is bigger than it is

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