I hope Arthur doesn't die at the end

[SuperKitsune]

Sure buddy, keep telling yourself that

[Hunter S. Compton]

Lol he did it again

 

Would you all want whoever you play as after the game to be a new character or an old character?

[tsycho]

I would like to play as John. It would "close the circle" to RDR 1.

[Hunter S. Compton]

I feel Arthur won’t die because it would be cliché. Plus, while a lot of people valued the ending of RDR1 they really didn’t like being stuck playing as a whiny kid. Once you hunted down Ross you were basically done.

If Arthur turns into a hired Bounty Hunter and stays east of W Elizabeth then it allows the opportunity for and extended story SP DLC. If Arthur dies then what? Another Undead?? I have faith that R* is a bit more original in thought than that

I think it won’t be an undead thing but I do think rockstar is going to do some kind of totally new thing for any SP DLC. I highly doubt it will continue the same narrative. And it’s like I said, even if Arthur becomes a bounty hunter, that’s exactly what John did, and he was eventually killed by his handlers. Regardless of any circumstances there is no way you play as Arthur after you beat the game

[SeniorDerp]

The best part of all this is that none of us actually know. We all have our speculation and feelings for whatever reason. I like the idea of R* coming up with a great, new ending to RDR2 and not one that simply regurgitates the story of John Marston.

[STARVING4NEWS]

I like how I opened this thread to have a civilised discussion and maybe come to an agreement with a certain ending,yet it's the complete opposite of that and 2 people that are clearly just as blind as the rest of us are fighting over whose right..... PERFECT!

[Journey_95]

I want him to die if it makes sense for the story. For RDR I just made a save before the last mission so I could enjoy free roam and side activities with John Marston even after the story ended.

[Sobchak]

It definitely feel like a cop out and a sh*t ending

[zachsterosu]

 

In the end hes gonna go to china with a chinese woman that he met in the railroad to take his father ashes home, so he aint dying

I don't know if that's sarcasm or not but c'mon not all of us read the leak and most of care about spoilers don't be an a hole

 

Don't worry, it's just a joke. The website didn't release any story details in the leak. Have you watched the AMC series 'Hell on Wheels'?

[Grizzy]

I'd rather Arthur not die just to end up playing as John. I've played as John for 8 years now, & personally I'm burnt out on him.

[Cozzi]

I'd rather Arthur not die just to end up playing as John. I've played as John for 8 years now, & personally I'm burnt out on him.

The best idea was on landmark analysis or general chat: Die as Arthur,end the game playing as John, and build the beecher's hope homestead, and then have the remaster take place as a DLC inside the main game but in a way that doesnt piss ppl off like Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare did. I mean honestly its a sh*tty cop out but shut up and take my money R*. it makes up for making me play as Jack all these years and gives me an RDR2 remaster and/or PC remaster.

Edited February 14, 2018 by Cozzi

[Safari]

 

I'd rather Arthur not die just to end up playing as John. I've played as John for 8 years now, & personally I'm burnt out on him.

The best idea was on landmark analysis or general chat: Die as Arthur,end the game playing as John, and build the beecher's hope homestead, and then have the remaster take place as a DLC inside the main game but in a way that doesnt piss ppl off like Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare did. I mean honestly its a sh*tty cop out but shut up and take my money R*. it makes up for making me play as Jack all these years and gives me an RDR2 remaster and/or PC remaster.

 

i mean they don't need to kill Arthur to go that route they can just simply follow the story of john after the gang split up and still manage to keep Arthur alive by finding an alternative ending to things.

[Grizzy]

Well regardless, I don't want Arthur to die & I don't want him to just disappear & then we play as John. That's just me lol

Edited February 14, 2018 by Grizzy

[Safari]

Well regardless, I don't want Arthur to die & I don't want him to just disappear & then we play as John. That's just me lol

I doubt we will be playing as john it would feel repetitive and draw us away from the main character of RDR2 and his focus regardless if he dies or not.

[DexMacLeod]

What would even be the point of playing as John after the game other than fan service? Building up Beecher's Hope would feel like such a pointless task knowing where it ends. Even if it didn't, John only barely had a working ranch to begin with in Redemption so it's not like building it up could be too elaborate.

 

I think they should do the opposite. Have us play as John in the prologue for a handful of missions, ending with the botched robbery where John was left for dead. Then we'd get an opening credit montage of the gang fleeing over the mountains into the new map before taking over as Arthur.

[SofaKingWet]

you know you lot all love john marston now after playing RDR, but remember if he does make an appearance in RDR2, from the stories, he wasn't such a nice guy

[ghostly dude]

He almost certainly will.

[Safari]

He almost certainly will.

Why do you think this? I personally don't think he will die, but want to hear your reasoning before i give any input.

[ghostly dude]

Because in RDR, John Marston finishes off the last of the Van Der Linde gang. Even if he's not dead by the end of RDR2, he's certainly dead by the beginning of RDR.

[Safari]

Because in RDR, John Marston finishes off the last of the Van Der Linde gang. Even if he's not dead by the end of RDR2, he's certainly dead by the beginning of RDR.

Its never specified whether Arthur is in their gang, in a very evidential leak it was said that Arthur was his own gang leader causing me to believe that Arthur wasn't only a part of the van der linde gang but his own gang with his own problems. Also it was specified in the story that after the gang broke up and john was left for dead he left with his family to work on the ranch until he was approached by government officials so where is the part in which he killed Arthur he wasn't approached by government officials until after he left to his ranch, I think it would be pointless to kill Arthur if they do it right he doesn't have to die.

[UAL]

Pretty obvious he dies, Rockstar kill off the protagonists in all their games now.

 

My guess is he dies and you take control of John Marston, same way how you took control of Jack at the end of RDR.

Edited February 20, 2018 by UAL

[Spider-Vice]

I hope they leave a big gap between the end of RDR2 and the beginning of RDR1 because the danger with prequels is that you always end up missing something, and connecting both games, if there are any plot holes, would be strange.

[Safari]

Pretty obvious he dies, Rockstar kill off the protagonists in all their games now.

 

My guess is he dies and you take control of John Marston, same way how you took control of Jack at the end of RDR.

Not all there characters are dead but they are just split up between different universes and there not all connected in the same universe, for example GTA 1 and 2 are the 2d universe, GTA 3, VC and san Andreas are the 3d universe and GTA4 and V are the HD universe so theres no evidence of them dying if we are in the HD universe cause they don't excise in the HD universe. Also Niko went into hiding after the events of GTA4 not dying just keeping out of the laws eyes. Also R* expects people like you that don't think outside the box to agree and say yea since they killed off all the characters in a whole other series then its expected in this one (theres no evidence to support they are all dead). Also Why would we play as john thats pointless AF especially because he was built up on his own problems after the events of RDR2 like hunting down his former gang so we wouldn't even get a chance to explore the open world without being hit with another story. Do i think we will learn a lot about john of course but it wouldn't make sense for them to give us a brand new character and then have him killed off just to play as the character from the last game. R* are focusing on giving us players a great character and that Arthur not john, They might as well just let us play as john in this upcoming game if Arthurs just going to die off as if he's not a new character, also what about Arthurs gang what happens to them i doubt they all die, in fact i think Arthur and a few of his gang members do something for the government to redeem their crimes i mean it says so in the title RED DEAD REDEMPTION so maybe he has to redeem himself to get his freedom back or maybe something more important back. All I'm saying is that if Arthurs killed off it would be pointless and would be repetitive to the last game and R* tend not to be repetitive but different each time take every GTA they've ever made yes they all have criminals but each criminal has his own unique story. You tend to bring up a lot from there past games but did you note when returning main character come into the game there usually a small role or a medium role, for example when we saw Claude from GTA3 in GTA san Andreas he wasn't anything big he was just in a few mission revolving around racing. Not saying john will be a small role but not as big of a roll as we think trust me R* always take this route

Edited February 21, 2018 by Safari

[UAL]

 

Pretty obvious he dies, Rockstar kill off the protagonists in all their games now.

 

My guess is he dies and you take control of John Marston, same way how you took control of Jack at the end of RDR.

Not all there characters are dead but they are just split up between different universes and there not all connected in the same universe, for example GTA 1 and 2 are the 2d universe, GTA 3, VC and san Andreas are the 3d universe and GTA4 and V are the HD universe so theres no evidence of them dying if we are in the HD universe cause they don't excise in the HD universe. Also Niko went into hiding after the events of GTA4 not dying just keeping out of the laws eyes. Also R* expects people like you that don't think outside the box to agree and say yea since they killed off all the characters in a whole other series then its expected in this one (theres no evidence to support they are all dead). Also Why would we play as john thats pointless AF especially because he was built up on his own problems after the events of RDR2 like hunting down his former gang so we wouldn't even get a chance to explore the open world without being hit with another story. Do i think we will learn a lot about john of course but it wouldn't make sense for them to give us a brand new character and then have him killed off just to play as the character from the last game. R* are focusing on giving us players a great character and that Arthur not john, They might as well just let us play as john in this upcoming game if Arthurs just going to die off as if he's not a new character, also what about Arthurs gang what happens to them i doubt they all die, in fact i think Arthur and a few of his gang members do something for the government to redeem their crimes i mean it says so in the title RED DEAD REDEMPTION so maybe he has to redeem himself to get his freedom back or maybe something more important back. All I'm saying is that if Arthurs killed off it would be pointless and would be repetitive to the last game and R* tend not to be repetitive but different each time take every GTA they've ever made yes they all have criminals but each criminal has his own unique story. You tend to bring up a lot from there past games but did you note when returning main character come into the game there usually a small role or a medium role, for example when we saw Claude from GTA3 in GTA san Andreas he wasn't anything big he was just in a few mission revolving around racing. Not saying john will be a small role but not as big of a roll as we think trust me R* always take this route

 

 

Not sure why you're talking about previous GTA eras I was just referring to Rockstars most recent titles from around 2010.

 

RDR - JM killed.

 

LA Noire - CP killed

 

GTA V - Michael or Trevor can be killed

 

RDR2 - Arthur possibly killed

 

p.s. I probably read about 4 lines of what you wrote, but have a good day.

[M0rk]

i hope he dies

[Safari]

 

 

Pretty obvious he dies, Rockstar kill off the protagonists in all their games now.

 

My guess is he dies and you take control of John Marston, same way how you took control of Jack at the end of RDR.

Not all there characters are dead but they are just split up between different universes and there not all connected in the same universe, for example GTA 1 and 2 are the 2d universe, GTA 3, VC and san Andreas are the 3d universe and GTA4 and V are the HD universe so theres no evidence of them dying if we are in the HD universe cause they don't excise in the HD universe. Also Niko went into hiding after the events of GTA4 not dying just keeping out of the laws eyes. Also R* expects people like you that don't think outside the box to agree and say yea since they killed off all the characters in a whole other series then its expected in this one (theres no evidence to support they are all dead). Also Why would we play as john thats pointless AF especially because he was built up on his own problems after the events of RDR2 like hunting down his former gang so we wouldn't even get a chance to explore the open world without being hit with another story. Do i think we will learn a lot about john of course but it wouldn't make sense for them to give us a brand new character and then have him killed off just to play as the character from the last game. R* are focusing on giving us players a great character and that Arthur not john, They might as well just let us play as john in this upcoming game if Arthurs just going to die off as if he's not a new character, also what about Arthurs gang what happens to them i doubt they all die, in fact i think Arthur and a few of his gang members do something for the government to redeem their crimes i mean it says so in the title RED DEAD REDEMPTION so maybe he has to redeem himself to get his freedom back or maybe something more important back. All I'm saying is that if Arthurs killed off it would be pointless and would be repetitive to the last game and R* tend not to be repetitive but different each time take every GTA they've ever made yes they all have criminals but each criminal has his own unique story. You tend to bring up a lot from there past games but did you note when returning main character come into the game there usually a small role or a medium role, for example when we saw Claude from GTA3 in GTA san Andreas he wasn't anything big he was just in a few mission revolving around racing. Not saying john will be a small role but not as big of a roll as we think trust me R* always take this route

 

 

Not sure why you're talking about previous GTA eras I was just referring to Rockstars most recent titles from around 2010.

 

RDR - JM killed.

 

LA Noire - CP killed

 

GTA V - Michael or Trevor can be killed

 

RDR2 - Arthur possibly killed

 

p.s. I probably read about 4 lines of what you wrote, but have a good day.

 

three characters out of all the other characters in previous R* games , lmao and you come to the conclusion Arthur will die. I was using GTA as an example as its there most known series of games to put a perspective in your head about how many characters where really killed and that would be 2, johnny from lost and damned, mike or trevor from GTAV. Did you miss all the other substantial points in my statement or do you just have a low attention span nip picking one point i made. You clearly know nothing about R* games titles

[DexMacLeod]

I think it's more about not wanting to try and decipher that giant wall of text than anything to do with attention span.

[Typhus]

John's death worked because he was a genuinely good man, and it tied into themes of government encroachment and the death of the old world. Arthur, by contrast, already seems like a total scumbag. His death wouldn't mean anything.

I'd much rather they have him kill Red Harlowe, to give that character some closure and emotional weight.

[Safari]

I think it's more about not wanting to try and decipher that giant wall of text than anything to do with attention span.

well thats his problem im just proving his reasonings behind Arthurs death as being weak if you want to say something say it with evidence and make sure it make sense instead of saying all the characters died in all R* games ( which they didn't).

 

John's death worked because he was a genuinely good man, and it tied into themes of government encroachment and the death of the old world. Arthur, by contrast, already seems like a total scumbag. His death wouldn't mean anything.

I'd much rather they have him kill Red Harlowe, to give that character some closure and emotional weight.

How tf does Arthur seem like a scumbag and how is he bland if you cant even tell me his purpose in the game. I honestly don't like people that are already judging the character in such a negative way after 2 trailers and 10 or so screenshots. I mean if thats your opinion then fine but have just a bit of an open mind... just a bit.

Edited February 21, 2018 by Safari

[UAL]

 

 

 

Pretty obvious he dies, Rockstar kill off the protagonists in all their games now.

 

My guess is he dies and you take control of John Marston, same way how you took control of Jack at the end of RDR.

Not all there characters are dead but they are just split up between different universes and there not all connected in the same universe, for example GTA 1 and 2 are the 2d universe, GTA 3, VC and san Andreas are the 3d universe and GTA4 and V are the HD universe so theres no evidence of them dying if we are in the HD universe cause they don't excise in the HD universe. Also Niko went into hiding after the events of GTA4 not dying just keeping out of the laws eyes. Also R* expects people like you that don't think outside the box to agree and say yea since they killed off all the characters in a whole other series then its expected in this one (theres no evidence to support they are all dead). Also Why would we play as john thats pointless AF especially because he was built up on his own problems after the events of RDR2 like hunting down his former gang so we wouldn't even get a chance to explore the open world without being hit with another story. Do i think we will learn a lot about john of course but it wouldn't make sense for them to give us a brand new character and then have him killed off just to play as the character from the last game. R* are focusing on giving us players a great character and that Arthur not john, They might as well just let us play as john in this upcoming game if Arthurs just going to die off as if he's not a new character, also what about Arthurs gang what happens to them i doubt they all die, in fact i think Arthur and a few of his gang members do something for the government to redeem their crimes i mean it says so in the title RED DEAD REDEMPTION so maybe he has to redeem himself to get his freedom back or maybe something more important back. All I'm saying is that if Arthurs killed off it would be pointless and would be repetitive to the last game and R* tend not to be repetitive but different each time take every GTA they've ever made yes they all have criminals but each criminal has his own unique story. You tend to bring up a lot from there past games but did you note when returning main character come into the game there usually a small role or a medium role, for example when we saw Claude from GTA3 in GTA san Andreas he wasn't anything big he was just in a few mission revolving around racing. Not saying john will be a small role but not as big of a roll as we think trust me R* always take this route

 

 

Not sure why you're talking about previous GTA eras I was just referring to Rockstars most recent titles from around 2010.

 

RDR - JM killed.

 

LA Noire - CP killed

 

GTA V - Michael or Trevor can be killed

 

RDR2 - Arthur possibly killed

 

p.s. I probably read about 4 lines of what you wrote, but have a good day.

 

three characters out of all the other characters in previous R* games , lmao and you come to the conclusion Arthur will die. I was using GTA as an example as its there most known series of games to put a perspective in your head about how many characters where really killed and that would be 2, johnny from lost and damned, mike or trevor from GTAV. Did you miss all the other substantial points in my statement or do you just have a low attention span nip picking one point i made. You clearly know nothing about R* games titles

 

 

Yeah read what I said again. It's been a trend in their games since 2010 starting with RDR and considering their last outing followed this trend, theres reason to believe their next outing will also follow suit.

 

I've been playing games by Rockstar since '98, so unfortunately you're wrong kiddo.

 

And not reading your post has nothing to do with my attention span as DexMacleod pointed out. It's very likely that post was 95% waffle. At least learn to structure your posts properly and not cram a thousand words into one big paragraph, that way people might actually take the time to read them.