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El Penguin Bobo

Catalina is the #1 bitch on the universe.

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mde2

The ony thing I would blame Rockstar for about Catalina is the fact she doesn't appear more oftenly in GTA 3 and San Andreas.

 

She should definitely have appeared more in SA but not III.

 

In 3 she was always an ominous threat and the point of the entire game was following a breadcrumb trail which eventually lead directly to her.

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watersgta3

Honestly, I really don't understand what Catalina's role would be if she appeared more in the game considering CJ only worked for her to gain access to the garage in SF.

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mde2

 

Honestly, I really don't understand what Catalina's role would be if she appeared more in the game considering CJ only worked for her to gain access to the garage in SF.

 

Where does the game say CJ was working with her to gain access to the garage in SF?

 

 

Gonna have to agree with Am Shaegar on this one.

 

CJ only got ownership of the Doherty garage out of circumstance because he beat Claude in the race. CJ was working with Catalina strictly for money which was made pretty clear, plus some other benefits on the side, and if she was in the game more she could have been used as liberally as the developers wanted, doing more jobs with her and such.

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watersgta3

 

CJ only worked for her to gain access to the garage in SF.

 

Where does the game say CJ was working with her to gain access to the garage in SF?

 

Perhaps I worded it incorrectly. What I meant is that Catalina didn't seem to have any importance to the storyline other than CJ working with her for money for whatever reason and just happened to be the one who provides him the garage.

 

Seriously, though, outside of that, Catalina wouldn't have a role in the story at all if she had appeared more since she has no real importance in the storyline other than the sake of being another recurring character.

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LazlowsucksiloveslutS

I don't agree. Catalina is one of the coolest GTA characters ever. I wish there was a badass bitch like that in GTAIV and V-

 

By the way this penguin sh*t sucks. You should edit your sh*t.

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El Penguin Bobo
4 hours ago, DK06282000 said:

I honestly don't understand why even a single person likes Ryder. The guy has treated CJ like sh*t since the start of the game and even called him a liability (which is very annoying). Also, he criticizes CJ so much and picks on his driving a lot. How could anyone like this asshole at all?! If someone was talking sh*t to you IRL, you wouldn't like them either, would you? Honestly, Ryder is a very annoying character with an annoying attitude and a very annoying voice. He has no purpose in the game at all, and his design is wack! He's the only character of the game who had no point in the story at all, and if I had to be honest, the game would've been sooooo much better if it didn't have him in it, because he ruined the first half of the story! I don't understand how and why anyone likes this character....at all!

If you think Ryder is annoying, just wait until you get to Catalina. Catalina had no point to the story and she criticizes CJ's driving WAY MORE than Ryder. She even pointed a gun at him. Sure, Ryder was a little bit of an asshole but at least he was a good kind.

 

OT: I think he died at the exact right time. Sure, it would have been cooler if you get to kill him and Smoke on the final mission, or better yet, he should have sided up with CJ, but it was nice to kill him at Pier 69 with a boat chase. The one thing I didn't like is that he didn't have enough dialogue on the mission.

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TheSantader25
3 minutes ago, Penguin Bob said:

If you think Ryder is annoying, just wait until you get to Catalina. Catalina had no point to the story and she criticizes CJ's driving WAY MORE than Ryder. She even pointed a gun at him. Sure, Ryder was a little bit of an asshole but at least he was a good kind.

 

OT: I think he died at the exact right time. Sure, it would have been cooler if you get to kill him and Smoke on the final mission, or better yet, he should have sided up with CJ, but it was nice to kill him at Pier 69 with a boat chase. The one thing I didn't like is that he didn't have enough dialogue on the mission.

How did catalina had no point in the story? That part was to show a little bit of the events before GTA 3 . it's a companion part to GTA 3 . it's like saying EFLC was completely pointless. 

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El Penguin Bobo
3 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

How did catalina had no point in the story? That part was to show a little bit of the events before GTA 3 . it's a companion part to GTA 3 . it's like saying EFLC was completely pointless. 

Because robbing stores with her was kinda pointless. If SA had a actual robbing mechanic, then CJ should've done it himself. In fact, he could have robbed the stores himself. Mission wise of course.

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TheSantader25
Just now, Penguin Bob said:

Because robbing stores with her was kinda pointless. If SA had a actual robbing mechanic, then CJ should've done it himself. In fact, he could have robbed the stores himself.

CJ needed money and he didn't know anything about that area. Catalina knew where to Rob so she showed CJ the places to rob and they did it together. 

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El Penguin Bobo
2 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

CJ needed money and he didn't know anything about that area. Catalina knew where to Rob so she showed CJ the places to rob and they did it together. 

Oh. Well, regardless, she's still annoying as hell.

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Crossbones

I think Catalina was fine. She wasn't a bitch, but CJ behaved like a bitch around her, like when she puts a gun at CJ's head and even rapes him. This is one of the thing I don't like about SA, CJ's inconsistency. At one moment he is burying a guy alive for cat-calling Kendl and at one moment he is getting raped. 

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TheSantader25
18 minutes ago, Crossbones said:

I think Catalina was fine. She wasn't a bitch, but CJ behaved like a bitch around her, like when she puts a gun at CJ's head and even rapes him. This is one of the thing I don't like about SA, CJ's inconsistency. At one moment he is burying a guy alive for cat-calling Kendl and at one moment he is getting raped. 

You do realize that the person CJ is burying is a harmless construction worker but the person who is raping him is a Psycho right? It makes sense for CJ to get f*cked by one and f*ck the other. It sorta works like a pyramid. 

On the sidenote, CJ is the only protagonist in the series(maybe besides Franklin) who doesn't only gain wealth through the story but learns a lot as well. His skills Evolve and Improve so much. He turns from a normal gangster with potential, to a highly skilled all-rounder criminal. SA story is the longest in the series because Carl's journey takes such a long time improving his skills around a massive map with huge events. 

The skills you can improve aren't a joke just to say that 'yeah, we have RPG elements'. They are there because they make sense for Carl's improvement. They return again in V because we have another protagonist who improves throughout the story. 

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Crossbones

 I agree that we cannot compare CJ at different stages of the game. At the start he is just a petty gangbanger but he improves as time passes. But, the CJ working with Catalina is the same CJ who rescued his brother from a motel which was full of SWAT armed with MP5K, got involved in high speed car chase with all of the LSPD, fought the Russian Mafia, rescued a girl from a fully burning house, broke into Madd Dogg's mansion, killed almost every guard in there and rescued Sweet from the Ballas ambush. 

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TheSantader25
11 minutes ago, Crossbones said:

 I agree that we cannot compare CJ at different stages of the game. At the start he is just a petty gangbanger but he improves as time passes. But, the CJ working with Catalina is the same CJ who rescued his brother from a motel which was full of SWAT armed with MP5K, got involved in high speed car chase with all of the LSPD, fought the Russian Mafia, rescued a girl from a fully burning house, broke into Madd Dogg's mansion, killed almost every guard in there and rescued Sweet from the Ballas ambush. 

But this still doesn't change the fact that the guy Carl is burying is a normal Citizen but catalina is a psychopath. You can't compare these two situations. Carl is stronger than one of them so he buries him. He is weaker than the other(or simply doesn't want to kill Cesar's cousin because that would cause conflict. And we all know killing her was the only way carl could escape her)  so he obeys her orders. 

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Crossbones
14 minutes ago, Crossbones said:

 I agree that we cannot compare CJ at different stages of the game. At the start he is just a petty gangbanger but he improves as time passes. But, the CJ working with Catalina is the same CJ who rescued his brother from a motel which was full of SWAT armed with MP5K, got involved in high speed car chase with all of the LSPD, fought the Russian Mafia, rescued a girl from a fully burning house, broke into Madd Dogg's mansion, killed almost every guard in there and rescued Sweet from the Ballas ambush. 

But all this happens before meeting Catalina. So, it clearly shows CJ is a badass at one moment and at other moment he is totally different. 

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TheSantader25
2 minutes ago, Crossbones said:

But all this happens before meeting Catalina. So, it clearly shows CJ is a badass at one moment and at other moment he is totally different. 

CJ also NEEDS Catalina. Unlike many think CJ actually is a smart protagonist. He acted like a Bitch because he needed money and he needed her to Rob places. So he played it nice to keep her happy. As soon as he found other ways to make money(races) he dumped her for good. He definitely could deal with her ass but since He NEEDED HER at the moment he played it cool. 

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Crossbones

You are absolutely right that CJ needed Catalina, as he needed money and dumped her when he found some other ways of making money. But, acting like a bitch doesn't fits CJ's character which he shows in the most part of the game, especially the part where he pleads Catalina for letting him go. No one would act smart when a gun is pointed at their head, but bitching so much for letting him go and apologising like a little kid doesn't feels right.  

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TheSantader25
48 minutes ago, Crossbones said:

You are absolutely right that CJ needed Catalina, as he needed money and dumped her when he found some other ways of making money. But, acting like a bitch doesn't fits CJ's character which he shows in the most part of the game, especially the part where he pleads Catalina for letting him go. No one would act smart when a gun is pointed at their head, but bitching so much for letting him go and apologising like a little kid doesn't feels right.  

CJ is dealing with a psycho. He has to act like a Bitch to make her feel better otherwise they couldn't rob those places together. CJ is not dealing with an ordinary criminal. He is dealing with Woman who is nuts. You can't reason with people like Catalina. How doesn't it fit his character?Throughout the story CJ proves numerous times that he has a flexible character and is willing to do anything to reach what he wants. CJ was "role-playing". That's what smart people do. They act like a person they aren't to fool others and get what they want. 

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Crossbones

He was acting like a bitch to make Catalina feel better ? Ahh, man I don't get that. No doubt he is smart, but acting like a bitch ain't a smart move IMO. 

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TheSantader25
6 minutes ago, Crossbones said:

He was acting like a bitch to make Catalina feel better ? Ahh, man I don't get that. No doubt he is smart, but acting like a bitch ain't a smart move IMO. 

Imagine if he didn't act like a Bitch. LikeHe acts like a tough motherf*cker. Catalina would freak the f*ck out-->results in a fight. Catalina probably dies. CJ doesn't get his money. 

Catalina is pretty similar to Trevor. So if you can't understand it replace catalina with Trevor. Imagine if someone acts like a tough guy(which CJ is) in front of Trevor. He would freak out and kill him. This method doesn't work against psychopaths like Trevor amd Catalina. You always have to act like they have some "control" over you and wait for the right moment to dump them. Otherwise you'll be turned into their food. 

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Crossbones

Alright, man. I am still not totally agreed but that's makes some sense, acting tough in front of psychopaths is not always the best option. 👍

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DirtCheap
3 hours ago, Crossbones said:

I think Catalina was fine. She wasn't a bitch, but CJ behaved like a bitch around her, like when she puts a gun at CJ's head and even rapes him. This is one of the thing I don't like about SA, CJ's inconsistency. At one moment he is burying a guy alive for cat-calling Kendl and at one moment he is getting raped. 

 

Whaaaaat? Since when did Catalina rape CJ? She just ties him up and then whips him, which she really enjoys. Not once did she do anything to him sexually. 

 

But other than that, I agree that the Catalina parts of the story in a way ruined CJ’s character a slight bit. Throughout the game, he’s a One Man Army, yet he begs some idiot with a pistol not to shoot him (would’ve liked him to stay calm and collected rather than showing her he’s scared).

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Crossbones
4 minutes ago, DirtCheap said:

 

Whaaaaat? Since when did Catalina rape CJ? She just ties him up and then whips him, which she really enjoys. Not once did she do anything to him sexually. 

 

But other than that, I agree that the Catalina parts of the story in a way ruined CJ’s character a slight bit. Throughout the game, he’s a One Man Army, yet he begs some idiot with a pistol not to shoot him (would’ve liked him to stay calm and collected rather than showing her he’s scared).

Haha, damn. She just whips him, I thought all that was sex, because I never heard the sound of whip hitting CJ. 

 

And I agree that CJ should've stayed calm and diffused the situation without bitching and apologising to Catalina.

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lil weasel

This Topic is about Catalina, Do Not change the Discussion.

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burgershotmanhunter

all i gotta say is i'm glad she is dead

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El Penguin Bobo

Ha ha, I made this thread years ago!

 

I still think she's a bitch though. 

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muvdafucupouttahere

Hell Catalina makes Tenpenny and Pulaski look far more sympathetic in comparison.

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Lioshenka
On 12/30/2017 at 7:05 PM, CoolMods said:

Plus Rockstar Games should've use a remastered model of the one in GTA3. In gta 3 she looked pretty good but in GTA Sa she look trash

Not on PS2 though:

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Deep Verma
22 hours ago, muvdafucupouttahere said:

Hell Catalina makes Tenpenny and Pulaski look far more sympathetic in comparison.

Both of them were rapist i guess + they destroyed many families.

I wonder why cartel gang never killed her. Claude would have been a better boss of cartels, not this bitch. 

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Cjrememberthat

One thing, cj was so busy kicking his own ass so he didn't even have a little time

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