greenrock Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 towards the end of the game, he starts killing Native Americans but he should know about the historical treatment of the Natives, and yet he fights them shadyslady, The Tracker, Domand and 2 others 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domand Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 50th topic. I don't believe he would be racist. The natives had been apart of Dutch's gang. However of course they joined from what seemed to be described by the whites poor treatment of them made the Natives join Dutch. Still however they were criminals in this case when John was killing them. We also see from the mission "The Gates of El Presidio" that John calls out reyes and other mexicans for their poor treatement of the chinese workers in the country. John then proceeds to tell Reyes that no matter where a man is from, John will treat them right as long as they do the same in return. John was a good man, and I don't think he was particularly racist. The Tracker, sabitsuki, GN 92 and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemoyne outlaw Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 yea he wasent racist. him and nastas got along fine. marston was forced to kill the natives because they were part of dutches gang. if it werent for ross forcing him he never would have killed them. OREOBOREALIS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiarii Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 He was a privileged, cis-gendered, heteronormative WHITE man, so yes, he was racist. #MeToo. But yah, I don't recall him being racist at any point in the game. I do however recall one of the side characters calling the Chinese 'an inferior race'. Whether Marston was racist or not I don't really care. JaberDoe, JON22, lol232 and 15 others 15 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggsy pls Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 No, in Undead Nightmare he's disgusted with Herbert Moon's bigotry and lets him get eaten by zombies because of it. UD isn't canon but it still shows John's character. Lock n' Stock, The Tracker and OREOBOREALIS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi McCourt Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 He was killing natives because they were part of dutch's new gang, the natives were defending dutch and John kill them to get to and kill Dutch to get his family back. ~INDIO~ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesucristo Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Johnny being a racist? Man, are you mad? Marston was the more political correct person in the game. Also, killing Natives was a official sport in nineteenth-century America LOL (poor people) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooeyhole Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1911 wasn't the most progressive time to exist in lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinepi Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) John made it clear numerous times throughout the story that he wasn't fond of racism. He criticized the Mexican army for their treatment of Chinese laborers, he was comfortable being in Nastas' presence. In the zombie dlc, he left Herbert Moon for dead because of his bigotry. 1911 wasn't the most progressive time to exist in lmao. People in 100 years from now will be looking back at this time in history and saying the same thing. All of history is progressive. Back in the early 1900's it was acceptable to commit many of the acts and attitudes presented by some of the characters. Comparing the early 1900's culture to current day using current thought processes just isn't a feasible comparison.That'd be like saying calling an astronomer in the 1700s a witch is bad because nowadays they are respected. It's just not feasible given back in the 1700s not many even knew what an astronomer was. Edited January 18, 2018 by Yinepi sabitsuki, The Tracker and Peckinpah 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Spaz Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 If you played the game you'd know the answer. Max.pain, Mastah, OREOBOREALIS and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mde2 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 If you played the game you'd know the answer. Ikr? OP just straight up says John was killing Native Americans as if he was an ultra racist and the goal of the game was to track down and massacre as many Natives as possible. Peckinpah, FilipCRO and The Tracker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherifWayne Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 By today's standards everyone pre 1960 was racist. Heck, by today's standards everyone is still racist. John didn't have time to bitch about racism and sh*t, he was a man who cared for his mission and his family, our luxurious 1st world lifestyles give us the privilege of sitting around all day looking for idiotic things like racism in a fictional videogame character set in 1911. I'm excited for Red Dead because it'll be an escape from the government controlled orwellian dystopia the world is becoming. Mastah, Peckinpah, sabitsuki and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mde2 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 By today's standards everyone pre 1960 was racist. Heck, by today's standards everyone is still racist. John didn't have time to bitch about racism and sh*t, he was a man who cared for his mission and his family, our luxurious 1st world lifestyles give us the privilege of sitting around all day looking for idiotic things like racism in a fictional videogame character set in 1911. I'm excited for Red Dead because it'll be an escape from the government controlled orwellian dystopia the world is becoming. Why does this forum attract so many mentally insane people? OREOBOREALIS, Zello and TableTennisChamp 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter De Blanc Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 yes greenrock total racist he can kill black people and mexicans must be The Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maibatsu545 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 (edited) Greenrock. One of the greatest and the most legendary trolls to ever grace GTAForums. I salute you sir. Edited May 13, 2018 by Maibatsu545 ~INDIO~ and Cozzi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock n' Stock Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 (edited) Really? Is this a serious question? Who the f*ck cares and why does it even matter?!? Edited May 13, 2018 by Lock n' Stock sabitsuki and ~INDIO~ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherifWayne Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 By today's standards everyone pre 1960 was racist. Heck, by today's standards everyone is still racist. John didn't have time to bitch about racism and sh*t, he was a man who cared for his mission and his family, our luxurious 1st world lifestyles give us the privilege of sitting around all day looking for idiotic things like racism in a fictional videogame character set in 1911. I'm excited for Red Dead because it'll be an escape from the government controlled orwellian dystopia the world is becoming. Why does this forum attract so many mentally insane people? I don't want to live in a nightmare where the govornment has the power to restrict everything I do and arrest me for my opinions, kill my children and force me to support the destruction of my country? If that constitutes crazy then I don't wanna be sane. Go take your antidepressants sheep. mde2, ~INDIO~ and Jeansowaty 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter De Blanc Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 well that escalated quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenomDYOM Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Way to destroy racism. "How about you tell me about the color of your soul?" Scatman John Scatman's World And, why's this a question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isotonicsycophant123 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 They're are criminals and you can't use the excuse that there natives to make Marston a racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherifWayne Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 On 5/12/2018 at 3:33 PM, mde2 said: Why does this forum attract so many mentally insane people? Dumb comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mde2 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 hours ago, SherifWayne said: Dumb comment. thanks for your intelligent rebuttal on a year old post GN 92, universetwisters and rtie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leopagne Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 On 1/18/2018 at 5:10 PM, Yinepi said: People in 100 years from now will be looking back at this time in history and saying the same thing. All of history is progressive. Back in the early 1900's it was acceptable to commit many of the acts and attitudes presented by some of the characters. Way off point for me to throw this in, but history is not necessarily progressive just because it moves chronologically. Case in point, the period between the collapse of the Roman Empire and the Middle Ages threw civilization backwards in progress. Parts of Europe abandoned money and reverted back to the barter system during the Dark Ages, for example. AmigaMix and gooeyhole 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max.pain Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 he wasn’t. probably a troll question anyway. Niobium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherifWayne Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 On 10/22/2019 at 9:48 PM, mde2 said: thanks for your intelligent rebuttal on a year old post also i poo pood my pamts we live in a society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinepi Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 2:07 PM, Leopagne said: Way off point for me to throw this in, but history is not necessarily progressive just because it moves chronologically. Case in point, the period between the collapse of the Roman Empire and the Middle Ages threw civilization backwards in progress. Parts of Europe abandoned money and reverted back to the barter system during the Dark Ages, for example. Sounds progressive to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auditore Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 compared to some people nowadays John is progressive as hell. But of course greenrock made this thread,this is such a greenrock thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEALUX Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 I hope so. REVENGE777, Nappy and Max.pain 1 1 1 The Audiophile Thread XB271HU | TESORO Gram XS | Xtrfy MZ1 | Xbox Elite v2 | Hifiman Sundara | Fiio K9 Pro i7 4790K 4.4 GHz | GTX 1080 Ti | 32 GB Crucial DDR3 | ADATA 256GB | Samsung 860 PRO 2TB Xbox | Xbox 360 | Xbox Series X | PS2 | PS3 | Google Pixel 6 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tao Cheng Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) - Edited September 2, 2020 by Tao Cheng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATSXI0212 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 John wasn't racist against anybody. Skin color was not a thing in his eyes. However he had a deep hatred for the baby eating bigfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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