El Penguin Bobo Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 I like Toni, i really do but some people say that he isn't that interesting. What do you guys think? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisan™ Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) You're goddamn right he is! I don't know why so many people don't like him, I love Lionel! Edited November 12, 2017 by ClaudeIzABadAzz Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1069926989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeansowaty Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) I'm not a fan of him because he's been written a bit flat. He's 99% of the time angry without any reason and does everything what everyone tells him. He's like Claude from III, just with the ability to talk. Hope I won't offend anyone, I just didn't like LCS that much compared to the other GTA's. Edited November 12, 2017 by Jeansowaty Copcaller, Ahmedmfroezspeed, NightmanCometh96 and 5 others 6 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1069927676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Penguin Bobo Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) I'm not a fan of him because he's been written a bit flat. He's 99% of the time angry without any reason and does everything what everyone tells him. He's like Claude from III, just with the ability to talk. Hope I won't offend anyone, I just didn't like LCS that much compared to the other GTA's. Yeah but, Toni was doing stuff for Vinchizo(however you spell his name), and he was demanding it and Toni had enough of it and destroyed his car. So i might have to disagree with Toni doing EVERYTHING they told him to do. Soon he snaps and has enough of it. And in my opinion, i thought Toni getting angry was funny. Edited November 12, 2017 by xXPinguXx NightmanCometh96, Copcaller, Ahmedmfroezspeed and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1069927871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeansowaty Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I admit, some scenes where he was incredibly angry were indeed funny Oh and I completely forgot about this mission. I personally think though that Toni exaggerated Vincenzo being so evil, him destroying his car just fuelled the guy with real hate so Vinnie decided to finish him off so he can regain his position in the mob. Their relation kind of reminded me Ryder and CJ in SA, just that Toni was taking everything too seriously, but in the end his suspicions became true. LCS lacked a proper main antagonist though, imo Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1069928706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Penguin Bobo Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 I admit, some scenes where he was incredibly angry were indeed funny Oh and I completely forgot about this mission. I personally think though that Toni exaggerated Vincenzo being so evil, him destroying his car just fuelled the guy with real hate so Vinnie decided to finish him off so he can regain his position in the mob. Their relation kind of reminded me Ryder and CJ in SA, just that Toni was taking everything too seriously, but in the end his suspicions became true. LCS lacked a proper main antagonist though, imo I won't disagree with LCS having a weak antagonist. I agree with you saying Toni is Claude from GTA 3 but can talk. I agree. Toni is really Claude but he can talk, he has emotion, and sh*tl like that. Jeansowaty and RaMMy 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1069929521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liver Buster Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) He is not definitely a bad one, but Toni seems so shallow in general, not possessing some sort of interesting complexity. Toni, almost always, fits the stereotype of macho tough mob guy with the baddest temper and strict loyalty, but that's it. The problem with Toni is that he lacks certain details that would make a character distinguishable and interesting. In short, Toni Ciprani is kind of a lesser "devil-in-the-details" Luca Brasi. Only dynamic put-in with Tony's persona was his psycho whore of a mother (who had some Olivia Soprano aura) but even that can't save Toni from being dull in the end. Edited November 14, 2017 by Rebel Yell just do it bob1 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1069930000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaMMy Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) I always said it, and I will say it again, it all comes down to every person, personally I don't like other protagonists besides Niko, one of my friends likes only CJ so it's basically up to the player to decide witch protagonist he like's the most and connects better with. I don't mind the variety of protagonists so far, but from all of them, Claude, Toni and (for me) Victor Vance are only shells, empty characters for the player to interact with the game, nothing interesting about them. As for you liking Toni, I appreciate it, it's nice to see people discussing different protagonists and pointing out things they like/care about that protagonist. Edited November 14, 2017 by RaMMy HenriqueV5 and Ballas King 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1069930417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisan™ Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 I always said it, and I will say it again, it all comes down to every person, personally I don't like other protagonists besides Niko, one of my friends likes only CJ so it's basically up to the player to decide witch protagonist he like's the most and connects better with. I don't mind the variety of protagonists so far, but from all of them, Claude, Toni and (for me) Victor Vance are only shells, empty characters for the player to interact with the game, nothing interesting about them. As for you liking Toni, I appreciate it, it's nice to see people discussing different protagonists and pointing out things they like/care about that protagonist. I get what your saying, but to me the only protagonist who is a 'shell' is Claude. He has no emotion, he doesn't talk, AND HIS FACE DOESN'T CHANGE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE GAME. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1069930526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Penguin Bobo Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 I always said it, and I will say it again, it all comes down to every person, personally I don't like other protagonists besides Niko, one of my friends likes only CJ so it's basically up to the player to decide witch protagonist he like's the most and connects better with. I don't mind the variety of protagonists so far, but from all of them, Claude, Toni and (for me) Victor Vance are only shells, empty characters for the player to interact with the game, nothing interesting about them. As for you liking Toni, I appreciate it, it's nice to see people discussing different protagonists and pointing out things they like/care about that protagonist. I get what your saying, but to me the only protagonist who is a 'shell' is Claude. He has no emotion, he doesn't talk, AND HIS FACE DOESN'T CHANGE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE GAME. That's weird for a dude with a name ClaudeIzABadAzz. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1069930721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisan™ Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I always said it, and I will say it again, it all comes down to every person, personally I don't like other protagonists besides Niko, one of my friends likes only CJ so it's basically up to the player to decide witch protagonist he like's the most and connects better with. I don't mind the variety of protagonists so far, but from all of them, Claude, Toni and (for me) Victor Vance are only shells, empty characters for the player to interact with the game, nothing interesting about them. As for you liking Toni, I appreciate it, it's nice to see people discussing different protagonists and pointing out things they like/care about that protagonist. I get what your saying, but to me the only protagonist who is a 'shell' is Claude. He has no emotion, he doesn't talk, AND HIS FACE DOESN'T CHANGE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE GAME. That's weird for a dude with a name ClaudeIzABadAzz. Yeah, you'd' think so? He's an empty shell, but I still think he's a badass. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1069931694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaljax Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I've stated this in a similar topic before , but i think Toni is just a talking version of Claude Copcaller and Steezy. 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1069938530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
guard3 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Well, LCS was meant to be just a GTA for PSP, along side the main ones. It wasn't supposed to be a hit, so everything is kinda flat. But, still, hell of a great game! jaljax and El Penguin Bobo 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1069941593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danilchek Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) In my opinion, Toni was the most memorable character after CJ and Tommy. Edited December 4, 2017 by Imperator233 El Penguin Bobo, Ahmedmfroezspeed, Nappy and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1069956045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPayne123 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Nope. Awful story and ZERO character development. I didn't hate the game, but it has one of the worst protagonists in my opinion. NightmanCometh96, Jeansowaty and Ahmedmfroezspeed 2 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1069971523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleSal Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Yes, i like so much her personality. Also, the story of LCS is one of the best in my opinion. Copcaller, El Penguin Bobo and Ahmedmfroezspeed 2 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1069984455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prasdana21 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 He isn't unique nor has that much of charisma in my opinion, but he's still a good protagonist in his own right. He's a badass protagonist, The Portland Chainsaw Masquerade mission is a great example how Rockstar portrayed his toughness. I won't compare him to Claude (who is also a great protagonist in my opinion) as he reminds me more of Tommy Vercetti. Toni in my opinion IS Tommy without being a boss. Well, Tommy has more memorable quotes/one funny liners and much more charismatic protagonist in my book (it's possible Tommy possess countless charisma as he was voiced by Ray Liotta). El Penguin Bobo and Ahmedmfroezspeed 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1070024460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adminsaredicks Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 No, its twisted psycho that do everything without thinking for few bucks. I liked him in GTAIII more. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1070047350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennart - Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Toni was not the deep story kind of guy but he made up with a funny character and overall, good skills. Cold blooded and tough. He is like Tommy, just darker and not as famous (I myself prefer Tommy). I like both, the GTA 3 and the GTA LCS Toni. They are both awesome even if GTA 3 Toni seems to be more badass. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1070047390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Lupino Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I quite like Toni Cipriani. Not my favorite protag but i prefer him more than Vic(who was kinda bland and boring) or Nikko. The way Toni says "Diiicckk" cracks me up everytime . Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1070047893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liver Buster Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) It's actually interesting that some people brought Tommy into the conversation. Well, it's right on its own term because when Tommy plays the "tough guy" card, he sounds too similar to Cipriani. Tommy and Toni are pretty alike in their ways of solving problems but being a boss, Tommy steps up as more of a quick thinker than Toni is... and Toni is more prone to use bursting violence and go bloody. However, Toni generally fails in class because he has not that kind of characteristic complexity and interesting background story that Tommy has. Edited January 15, 2018 by Rebel Yell HenriqueV5, gooeyhole and Jeansowaty 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1070048193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementia Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) Yes, i like so much her personality. Also, the story of LCS is one of the best in my opinion. I also like her lol Edited January 16, 2018 by SMACKED! Copcaller 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1070048626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooeyhole Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) Toni doesn't give a sh*t about running an empire like Vercetti. At the end, all he wants is a payoff. Most likely takes whatever money he has and cleans it up through the restaurant, Leone businesses, etc. It's more grounded in reality, but overall less exciting. Plus Ray Liotta is the man so it's hard to compare the two objectively. Edited January 17, 2018 by Mr_Rager Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1070050675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
just do it bob1 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 he's not a good protagonist IMO. He's F*cking Bad Ass! Journey_95 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1070057182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journey_95 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) He is kind of bland and an asskisser. Really expected more. Edited January 22, 2018 by Journey_95 Jeansowaty 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1070058419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlingMaster Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I think he is. He shows extreme loyalty to the Leone family, maybe because of his mother's pressure for him to be like his father. He also has an obscure past, since we have no idea of who he killed before laying low for a while. Toni is Sal's lapdog, but a very dangerous lapdog who can blow Fort Staunton without second thoughts. HenriqueV5 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1070071417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*DERGaming Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Hes like Claude if Claude could talk. Jeansowaty 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1070071465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhus Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 You know what trips Toni up? His side cast. Who does he have to speak to? Sal, who treats him like sh*t. His Mother, who treats him like sh*t. Oh, and JD, a fat guy who is only there to be in a gimp suit because Rockstar has the sense of humour of a five year old. Now, what if they included Luigi? Clearly a tough character in the mold of Toni himself, who he could respect. Or Joey, a younger guy Toni could take under his wing and talk to about the mob life, and how Joey clearly doesn't have much interest in it. Boom. Then you've got a real character with relatable relationships, relationships more complex because Toni either might kill or be killed by his own friends at some point. But instead, everyone feels flat, and the omission of some key figures from III is really jarring. I don't know about you, but I was excited to see what 8 Ball and Luigi were like before Fido met them years later, but either they don't show up, or their characterizations are completely wrong (Looking at you, Donald.). In that kind of setting, what chance did Toni really have to stand out? It's a heartless game. NightmanCometh96, Jeansowaty, LowTierDude and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1070071823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylen pizarro Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 yes Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1071176730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Ryan. Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 As I said the other day he was better as side character in GTA III, but as a protagonist nothing really stands out about him. Don't get me wrong he's not really a "bad" character persay, but he's not a remarkable protagonist. Infact I would've preferred if 8 Ball was the protagonist in LCS. NightmanCometh96, KingAJ032304, Lord Criminal and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/899869-is-toni-a-good-protagonist/#findComment-1071178925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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