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Western Gunslinger

Things GTA IV/EFLC did better than GTA San Andreas

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Nappy

I woulda said some posts of SonOfLiberty was fanboyism, but they are still opinions anyway. I’ll never get how he manages to dislike the game that much tho.

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Niobium
1 hour ago, Payne said:

I woulda said some posts of SonOfLiberty was fanboyism, but they are still opinions anyway. I’ll never get how he manages to dislike the game that much tho.

i don't even think it's fair to compare SA to IV. SA is a PS2 game while IV is a PS3 game. IV is supposed to have better shooting, driving, physics, AI, graphics, etc.

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Nappy

Donno about fair, but his dislikes were more about people likin San Andreas more than IV as far as i remember

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Algonquin Assassin
On 3/4/2020 at 4:58 AM, KingAJ032304 said:

I really don't get your disdain towards the ped interaction feature. I'm pretty sure if was a feature originally added to GTA IV, you would name it as a pro against SA not having it (also think it would fit GTA IV more in general though). I'm also pretty sure if GTA SA was the only GTA to have items you could pickup from the ground and GTA IV didn't have it, you would call it a random gimmicky feature of SA. 

 

My disdain for the ped interaction feature in San Andreas is less about the feature itself and more for the idea that it somehow makes GTA IV less immersive because it doesn't feature it in the same manner even though GTA IV employs its form of interaction features that were never present in San Andreas.

 

In an open world game I welcome anything that makes it more immersive/interactive, but like most of the decisions R* made with GTA IV they wanted to go in a different direction and besides it's not like GTA IV is completely rid of it. We can still give buskers/hobos money which I know isn't much, but it still makes the game world feel interactive. And like I said the random characters feel like a worthy substitute anyway and are far more interesting than randoms commenting on what CJ smells like or the clothes he's wearing, but that's just me. 

 

 

On 3/4/2020 at 5:40 AM, Payne said:

I woulda said some posts of SonOfLiberty was fanboyism, but they are still opinions anyway. I’ll never get how he manages to dislike the game that much tho.

If you want my honest opinion then clearly San Andreas is a good game and I would probably play it over many games from 2004, but within the confines of the series it's not a great GTA to me even compared to the games that preceded it let alone GTA IV and such.

 

Maybe some of the things I said about it were harsh, but I don't take anything back. It is what it is I guess. 

 

 

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Nappy

I remember looking at your very old posts SonOfLiberty. Some guy was once saying “Anyone else think San Andreas’ Story sucked?” or something and i saw you were saying something like “tbh It was far from sucked, i was glad the game left gang theme at some part...”. I still think you are blinded by the perfection of Gta IV 🤪. It’s more of a complete game than San Andreas imo.

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Algonquin Assassin
3 hours ago, Payne said:

I remember looking at your very old posts SonOfLiberty. Some guy was once saying “Anyone else think San Andreas’ Story sucked?” or something and i saw you were saying something like “tbh It was far from sucked, i was glad the game left gang theme at some part...”. I still think you are blinded by the perfection of Gta IV 🤪. It’s more of a complete game than San Andreas imo.

I don't remember saying anything like that.:lol:

 

With regards to the story I've been pretty consistent over the last couple of years that the story up until CJ is exiled from Los Santos is my favourite part which ironically mostly features the gang theme. I don't have anything against the gang theme just the way it was handled with the circus act that followed with green goo, CJ becoming a spy for hire and all the other garbage that drags San Andreas' story down post Los Santos.

 

If R* stuck with what was working I probably would've finished the game instead it felt like a movie changing genres halfway through. *shrugs*

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Americana
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Yeah, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas has a story, but only in Los Santos.

 

Everything else was just some random crap.

 


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El Penguin Bobo
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It seems like after the Los Santos chapter, Rockstar didn't really care too much about writing the story, at that point, they just wanted to show off the map and some...out of place features like the jetpack.

 

EDIT: Welcome home SonOfLiberty, glad to be back?

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Utopianthumbs

GTA IV did the Grand Theft Auto part better. Exotic Exports and Stevies Car Thefts > Import Export

 

GTA TLAD just about edges San Andreas in having better main antagonists imo. Billy and Brian > Tenpenny and Pulaski ( but only just, and I know this is subjective but while both pairs are excellent I think the TLAD duo are slightly more hateable)

 

GTA TBOGT had better a triathlon feature.

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Fruntmann212
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Compare the death of Big Smoke CJ's best friend to that of Mr. Faustin, yeah the first one became a meme and a punch line, the other became the guy everyone regretted killing

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Algonquin Assassin
3 minutes ago, Fruntmann212 said:

Compare the death of Big Smoke CJ's best to that of Mr. Faustin, yeah the first one became a meme and a punch line, the other became the guy everyone regretted killing

This is because when San Andreas tries to be "dramatic" it falls flat on its face and as you say it becomes a meme.

 

GTA IV's writing is leaps and bounds ahead.

 

 

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Nappy

I don’t remember a single meme about dimitri’s death. Whoa

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Utopianthumbs
2 minutes ago, Payne said:

I don’t remember a single meme about dimitri’s death. Whoa

I've seen a meme about Niko telling Dimitri to speak English or something like that, anyways yeah I'm being nitpicky again

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Algonquin Assassin

GTA IV's safehouses are way more interesting to be in despite there being less. All the safehouses in San Andreas are f*cking sh*t. Even the safehouses like the Johnson house, Madd Dogg's crib pale in comparison to GTA IV's apartments which are unquestionably more detailed and feel more "lived in". 

 

Sometimes when I'm eating dinner I like to watch the in game TV or surf the net. Being able to play pool at PBX's loft with friends is also really cool yet somehow it took me a few years to realise.:p

 

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Nappy

San Andreas interior system is garbage.

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Kierolack666

I think I said this before.

 

GTA IV has a better Girlfriend system, I got Kate and Michelle to 100% with ease.

 

San Andreas however, the Girlfriend mechanic is downright BS! I have CJ dating one person and I keep losing affection for her, because whenever I lose affection, im 1.) In a gang war. Or 2.) She is not available at the certain time.

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Kierolack666
On 7/3/2019 at 1:35 PM, El Penguin Bobo said:

^ Yeah, I can't stand CJ. People only give him praise because he can wear a variety of clothes

They also like CJ because he can Swim...

 

I mean seriously? A Good/Great Protagonist doesn't need to know how to freaking SWIM. A actual protagonist needs to be awesome at kicking some bloody arse.

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