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Legion of Hell

Things GTA IV/EFLC did better than GTA San Andreas

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SonOfLiberty
6 hours ago, KGBeast said:

The beauty of IV is that Niko is at the core of the game and everything revolves around him. In SA the ridiculous 'everything but the kitchen sink' mountain of content they threw in the game was the core, and CJ was simply inserted into it. In IV everything was conceived and crafted specifically to match Niko, his experience, and his environment. All the clothes he can wear make sense. All the vehicles he has access to make sense. The activities he can do make sense. Sometimes games are thought of in terms of width and depth. SA was very wide but had almost no depth, it was broad and shallow like a reflection pool. IV was far less wide but each aspect had far more depth, more like a lake. The thought that went into IV, and the depth, consistency, and quality they managed to achieve is why it stands head and shoulders above SA.

Took the words right out of my mouth sir.

 

I've often described San Andreas as being as wide as an ocean, but deep as a puddle. GTA IV is the opposite. Not quite as wide in scope, but a much deeper, better and more cohesive game.

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theNGclan
Posted (edited)

Niko’s nose is much more admirable than CJ’s, so that’s a bit +1 for IV.

 

I’m also glad silly weapons like the mini gun weren’t present. The weapon roster we got on the base game works and every weapon has a practical utility, unlike SA with dildos and flowers (which aren’t truly weapons)

Edited by theNGclan

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SonOfLiberty

Since I also added EFLC into the mix...

 

-TLAD's gang wars > the f*cking annoying gang territories in San Andreas. "Your hood is under attack" argh.

 

-Luis is a better fighter than CJ out of the box and doesn't need to learn different fighting moves. Default CJ is such a worthless weakling.

 

-I feel more attached to my brothers in The Lost when they die than the many nameless Grove Street gangbangers no one cares about  TLAD does the whole "gang" thing so much better.

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Yoona

Guys, I've had GTA 4 and EFLC for years on PC but it's a ghost town there so I'm considering getting the PS3 version to play at glorious 640p 25 fps if there's still people playing online there!

So guys, are there still players in GTA 4 and EFLC on PS3 in 2019? That's the only reason I'd buy this game again for PS3 so please tell me! Thanks.

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iiCriminnaaL 49

Since EFLC has been added into the mix:

  • Johnny & Luis > CJ.
  • Billy > Tenpenny. TLAD's story is very short, sure (but I find it more entertaining than San Andeas' anyway), but I personally prefer Billy when it comes to personality, and the fact that he started as a close friend and ended up being the main enemy, to me, does more than a corrupt cop who has been a straight douche and a blackmailer since the very beginning up to the final scene.
  • The Lost & Angels of Death > Families & Ballas.
  • TLAD's gang wars & TBOGT's drug wars > San Andreas' territory gang warfare.
  • TLAD's bike races & TBOGT's triathlons > Any race side-mission San Andreas has to offer.
  • TBOGT's fight club > San Andreas' gyms.

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billiejoearmstrong8
11 hours ago, theNGclan said:

Niko’s nose is much more admirable than CJ’s, so that’s a bit +1 for IV.

 

I’m also glad silly weapons like the mini gun weren’t present. The weapon roster we got on the base game works and every weapon has a practical utility, unlike SA with dildos and flowers (which aren’t truly weapons)

I have to say I do like how you can pick up dildos in the sex shops and throw them at people in IV though (and even attack Dimitri with them in Do You Have Protection if you want lol), and how there's a little SA easter egg of purple dildos found in piles of rubbish in Alderney. Funny little nod to the GTA dildo obsession without being over the top about it. But yes the weapons in IV are really cool and awesome, no need for silly ones.

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SonOfLiberty
2 hours ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

I have to say I do like how you can pick up dildos in the sex shops and throw them at people in IV though (and even attack Dimitri with them in Do You Have Protection if you want lol), and how there's a little SA easter egg of purple dildos found in piles of rubbish in Alderney. Funny little nod to the GTA dildo obsession without being over the top about it. But yes the weapons in IV are really cool and awesome, no need for silly ones.

This is why I love GTA IV so much. Despite its gritty exterior it still allows room for the most subtle humour/pisstakes. Most people probably wouldn't even think about picking up the dildos and throwing them at NPCs lol. Next time throw one at an NPC so they get pissed off and watch them being arrested by the cops.:D

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B Dawg
Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, iiCriminnaaL 49 said:

 

  • TLAD's bike races & TBOGT's triathlons > Any race side-mission San Andreas has to offer.

Speaking of triathlons, TBOGT has the only good triathlons in the series imo. Parachutes, boats and sports cars are just way better than running, swimming and bicycles. Shame V decided to regress in that regard (and ended up having the worst ones thanks to HD era's changed run/sprint mechanics).

 

But tbh, considering the extreme lack of difficulty in IV/TLAD's standard/bike races (maybe I'll fix it one day by giving opponents overpowered versions of existing vehicles), I'd have to go with San Andreas ones. But Multiplayer wise, IV/TLAD 4 life.

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billiejoearmstrong8
2 hours ago, SonOfLiberty said:

This is why I love GTA IV so much. Despite its gritty exterior it still allows room for the most subtle humour/pisstakes. Most people probably wouldn't even think about picking up the dildos and throwing them at NPCs lol. Next time throw one at an NPC so they get pissed off and watch them being arrested by the cops.:D

Throwing dildos is the best way to start off a huge gang/police battle in Hove Beach or a big thing involving loads of police and a traffic jam/cars exploding in Star Junction :D

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Kierolack666
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I can listen to Liberty Rock Radio and Vice City FM all day long. Those stations are awesome.

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