Spider-Vice Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 In a surprising turn of events, Imran Sarwar, the new producer for Grand Theft Auto at Rockstar North, has given out an exclusive intervew to GameInformer about GTA Online, its past, present and future. This interview also reveals some details on why a SP DLC never happened (and likely never will) and many other confessions about what GTA Online has become, how surprising it was, even how it was seemingly dying up until 2014 and how difficult Heists were to develop. Check it out! slohbur, livejoker, Red Lynx 23 and 15 others 18 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
livejoker Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) Does he say how difficult it was to escort The Benz out the door? "At first the door was locked but we finally got it unlocked and we pushed him out the door!" Lengthy article, will definitely read this and will pop back with thoughts. Thanks for this! So far I've seen pics by ChaosZake and EVO. That's insane! "With GTA V, the single-player game was absolutely massive and very, very complete. It was three games in one." - Rockstar guy. That's not true. It's a shoddy story with 3 main characters, not 3 stories intertwined for 3 characters. The way he discusses the business model for shark cards and how people not rich enough can ignore the new stuff scares me. I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see that business model used for RDR2 where richer or grind-hungry players will get better guns/mounts/etc. Edited October 23, 2017 by livejoker Ivan1997GTA, R a f a e, B Dawg and 17 others 20 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069900130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronic lumbago Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Took them a long ass time to admit SP DLC is never coming. It's still great news R* loves and cares for singleplayer. Xiled, Red Lynx 23, lol232 and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069900148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrelith Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Good interview. The news about the SP DLC isn't that surprising, but it's good to see that they at least considered it, but ultimately didn't make it due to other projects. I can imagine it would be quite hectic to work at Rockstar. ''multiplayer games don’t rival single-player games'' QFT Red Lynx 23, Ivan1997GTA, nkjellman and 3 others 6 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069900187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 >Bikers has the Lost MC helping you set up shop Did Sawar even play the game he's talking about? B Dawg, APB, REXX and 9 others 12 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069900203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghetti Cat Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Clicked on the link, but after six minutes of loading I rage quit. OVO and robban 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069900220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuke Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) The way he discusses the business model for shark cards and how people not rich enough can ignore the new stuff scares me. I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see that business model used for RDR2 where richer or grind-hungry players will get better guns/mounts/etc. Its pretty much a given at this point that next GTA:O will have a sh*tty sp at best along with an overly expensive PVP based online mp. Edited October 23, 2017 by HeavyDuke Iroquois, livejoker and Red Lynx 23 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069900221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeTheOne Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Singleplayer comes first, always will. highspeed, Iroquois, Lioshenka and 4 others 7 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069900227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Hombre Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) MAKE SINGLEPLAYER GREAT AGAIN Edited October 23, 2017 by Good Hombre Ivan1997GTA, Spadge, APB and 7 others 10 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069900251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dacelo Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Quoting a comment I found elsewhere cuz it sums it up better than I could Just in time for the marketing engine to start up for the new Red Dead Redemption. Actions speak louder than words, we'll see what really ends up happening. I'd wait until we actually see SP updates in RDR2 to start believing that R* GAF about postlaunch singleplayer content. Pink Pineapple, Red Lynx 23, Humzz and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069900256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOUGL4S1 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) If anything, this means that, theoretically, GTA Online didn't kill Rockstar, as they are working in Red Dead Redemption II and "future projects". I say theoretically because anything could change or go wrong in the meantime. With both GTA IV and Red Dead Redemption, we sold DLC and unfortunately both times, it fractured the audience and helped to kill the games much faster than they deserved.I don't really agree with this. Both games had a pretty huge community before GTA V. The only thing EFLC did was split the community in Multiplayer, as people with only IV couldn't play with people with EFLC. Still, I could easily find lobbies in GTA IV, with all gamemodes, not to count the people doing events. With GTA Online, if there’s content people don’t like or want, they can simply ignore it and do something else, while still being in the same core world as everyone else.I don't like the Hydra, or the lock-on missiles. Will this prevent me from being killed by them? One of the enjoyable things about working on a project like this is that you can iterate quickly, and change and evolve plans fairly quickly too, so we don’t have to be as clear in our plans as with other projects.So, you like Online because you can copy-paste stuff with minor changes and minimal effort and release it as new with noone knowing? Yeah, sounds like GTA Online. Edited October 23, 2017 by DOUGL4S1 Xiled, JRC99, Pink Pineapple and 15 others 18 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069900303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVOLUT7ON Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) Check it out! Seems like I'm very dangerous Is it possible to see full article here (on GTAforums)? Like you (we) always do with R* Newswire, please? Edited October 23, 2017 by EVOLUT7ON highspeed and Cryo The Hunter 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069900356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider-Vice Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 The article is very big, which is why I chose not to include its body. You can try this archive.is link, it should work: https://archive.is/vE49g Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069900363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Pink Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) Haven't finished the article but did read about the SP DLC situation. It's so refreshing just to hear a comment on the DLC issue. I was angry there was no SP DLC just goes to show what a little transparency can do. I also think this more candid interview about Rockstar's thinking and rationale behind the creative/production decisions is signalling the "beginning of the end" for GTA V/Online. It's a bit of an autopsy if you will. We never ever really hear Rockstar's thinking behind their motives. It's great to hear even if I disagreed with some of the choices. Also, this is nice to read... ...but we still love single-player open-world games more than anything. I don’t think you could make a game like GTA V if you did not like single-player games and trying to expand their possibilities! I don't know about the freemium model of GTA Online. They seem to be doubling down on it being the best way. Well if that's case, I think they should adjust the pricing in the in-game economy and/or if you buy a Shark Card, you get matched with other Shark Card players. Those of us that earn cash through playing can go against each other. I think that's only fair. Competing in a game where someone pays real cash for in-game cash is kills immersion for me. It's the pursuit of the almighty dollar in a game yet guy the next is using real money. Do they not see how that's kind of ridiculous? It's nice flashing a sweet car of having a great apartment early-on but there's zero bragging rights to be had seeing as people can "pay to win." I don't mean to be cheap either, I bought GTA V twice and I buy DLC. I just don't like freemium models Otherwise, great article and nice to read about how things were difficult regarding heists etc. Heists were probably a highlight of Online for me. Edited October 23, 2017 by Mister Pink Ron Horse, livejoker, DOUGL4S1 and 5 others 8 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069900384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
raebbitos Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 three games into one? no, not at all more like 1 game divided in 3 plus a cashgrab online mode. Spadge, Kiyone_Alien_Cop, EVOLUT7ON and 5 others 8 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069900412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVOLUT7ON Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 The article is very big, which is why I chose not to include its body. You can try this archive.is link, it should work: https://archive.is/vE49g Doesn't work... Well, I've just installed VPN app, and changed my ip. Works fine now Thanks for your help. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069900417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maibatsu545 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 This Imram sounds like an ignorant c*nt. Just another mindless greedy drone just like Straus Zelnick. f*ck him. Pink Pineapple, Red Lynx 23, Rafae and 3 others 6 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069900622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaundi. Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Imran Sarwar and Strauss Zelnick are definitely f*ck buddies. Rafae, BUT THE BENZ, DOUGL4S1 and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069900658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 That's one hell of a lengthy interview for Sarwar. Is he familiar with GTA:O though? It doesn't seem like that. The SP DLC was a long overdue. Hopefully they don't make it crappy. He should have mentioned the insane amount of money they've been making from those Shark cards. Rafae and Criminal-Fox 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069900757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Odyssey Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) With GTA V, the single-player game was absolutely massive and very, very complete. Yes, because single player is "too complete" and doesn't need any add ons for property purchase, running organisations, import/exports, lowriders and yachts but they're completely necessary for GTA Online which is a totally different game, right? Hm. No. Online is still not complete enough. Better throw in parachute cars and flying RPG motorcycles. Edited October 24, 2017 by The Odyssey JRC99, Red Lynx 23, Hécate-II and 5 others 8 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069900765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic_Al Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I never believed they consciously abandoned single-player DLC. I've always believed Brendan McNamara's observation that Rockstar on the whole does one thing at a time, no matter how big they get they try to bring all their resources to bear on what they're releasing next. When problems came up, it ate into the time to do whatever they may have planned to do. There was limited time to do it because GTAV was released toward the tail-end of a console generation that was going to be discontinued, and then you lose all those millions of potential DLC buyers. Things happened that pushed SP DLC off the table. GTAV came out, Online launched, but Heists were not ready, not close to ready, they had to be done over. They had explicitly promised Heists and had to fulfill that, priority one. They also had to immediately remaster the game for next-gen consoles so the game would have a future, priority two. Between those two things everybody who might have worked on SP DLC was best utilized helping to get those top priorities done sooner. By the time those two things were done, the window for SP DLC that could have sold successfully on both last-gen and current-gen had closed. The new information this interview reveals is that Online was "failing" in its first year, pre-heists, losing players. That would have been bad for their SP DLC plans too, because it meant the active user base was shrinking — even fewer potential customers. It was obvious in this and past interviews that Rockstar is disappointed that the really excellent SP DLC they did last-gen wasn't played by more people and that they blame the structure and timing of how it was released. They weren't going to risk doing SP DLC that they'd be proud to make with all these other challenges going on at the same time and keeping them from having perfect timing and control over how to market and launch the product successfully. Mister Pink, MostlyPonies, Mas u Sees and 7 others 10 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069900769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Dawg Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) With both GTA IV and Red Dead Redemption, we sold DLC and unfortunately both times, it fractured the audience and helped to kill the games much faster than they deserved. I don't really agree with this. Both games had a pretty huge community before GTA V. The only thing EFLC did was split the community in Multiplayer, as people with only IV couldn't play with people with EFLC. Still, I could easily find lobbies in GTA IV, with all gamemodes, not to count the people doing events The fact that they were separate is a good thing imo. I certainly wouldn't want TLAD's Street Sweeper in IVMP, or TBOGT's Buzzard and Explosive Shotgun. Edited October 24, 2017 by B Dawg Rafae, lol232 and raebbitos 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069901039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
highspeed Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 A very interesting read. I find it very shady that the fact they talk about in game money and shark cards, but not once is it anywhere mentioned about thousands of players accounts being "adjusted" by R*. As a business practice, this is beyond f*cked. I haven't even played online (yet), so I have no money to lose. After reading all the stories on the thread on this site, I feel for a lot of the players. For it not even to be mentioned in this interview, it's low. Damn it R*, you are making it really easy on yourselves to make me hate you some days.. Shaundi., APB, Lonely-Martin and 3 others 6 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069901074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
REXX Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Half of what I read was literally pure bullsh*t. They didn'didn't apologize for all the legit accounts that had hard earned money removed. They mostly spoke about Sharkcards... not even a thanks to the players. Leslie Benzie needs a come back to give this company a kick up the ass. I appreciate their game and I will continue play like I do But after reading that, they really need to pull their finger out. Humzz, Suq Maddiq, Maibatsu545 and 3 others 6 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069901251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanches Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 "Hey, community is doing our job with the mods. Let's forbid that!" Alvarez and APB 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069901253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Dog with Cone Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 With GTA Online, if theres content people dont like or want, they can simply ignore it and do something else, while still being in the same core world as everyone else. Sure, cuz I can ignore completely all these spam calls wanting me to buy a MC Business, an Office Garage, a Bunker, a Hangar... Professional Amateur, Maibatsu545, B7R and 10 others 13 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069901266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
APB Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) It seems GTA V was the last GTA that I bought. Screw them for being greedy like everyone else these days. Also screw Adv modes, they should be the least important thing. Edited October 24, 2017 by APB Humzz, Sanches, Red Lynx 23 and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069901272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaniness Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Thanks to this article now I know that not liking the in-game prices and their fish card equivalents makes me a racist. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069901356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanches Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Sure, cuz I can ignore completely all these spam calls wanting me to buy a MC Business, an Office Garage, a Bunker, a Hangar... Yeah, now Oppressor isn't a problem anymore. I just ignore it's rockets. B Dawg, Cryo The Hunter and Pink Pineapple 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069901359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StangOne50 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 This turd would have been better off keeping his mouth shut. R looks like even bigger scumbags now then ever before. lol232 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/898954-rockstar-opens-up-to-gameinformer-about-gta-onlines-success/?do=findComment&comment=1069901361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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