HailHydra Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 So what's the best? Bonus point if it's good in mission too, and please don't auto lock because this thread already exist(maybe, idk), i think we need this kind of thread to be put on general discussion so people can save their money. Chevchelious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanches Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 (edited) Not gonna talk about Apache, but people are talking good stuff about Molotok. By the way, you may find more info here. Edited October 22, 2017 by Sanches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigmaness Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 The Molotok seems to be a good choice. It's currently on a 25% discount right now for another four days too, along with the Starling. Ryancoke66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedinhuh Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 So what's the best? Bonus point if it's good in mission too, and please don't auto lock because this thread already exist(maybe, idk), i think we need this kind of thread to be put on general discussion so people can save their money. Hydra and Buzzard. Forza Harrd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfoam Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 (edited) Motolok, Pyro and Starling are all good. But the P45 which is yet to be released and the Hunter will be special also. You wont go wrong with any of those. The Pyro is the best in air to air combat so far (it can kill Hyrdas and Lazers easily)... The P45 might be better though. The motolok has awesome air brakes for dive bombing with missles but the Pryo can pull out of a dive in a split second also.. and the starling is cool because it has rockets and can fly straight up very fast. I mean if you are on PS4 and want to test fly them just ask. PS out of everything I listed I'd chose the Motolok for missions, I ripped up base invaders pretty quick in one. Edited October 22, 2017 by elfoam Forza Harrd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy Vinewood Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I personally like the Rogue, it does alot of things for it's price. You have bombs, explosive guns, missiles, and countermeasures. And it seats 2 people so you can bring a friend - and while you're strafing your target the passenger can be dropping bombs at the same time. Good value for it's price, imo Geisterfaust, Tails Prower, marco6158 and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geisterfaust Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Rogue if you're short on cash, Pyro if you can afford it: best dogfighting jet now, proved by several videos made by pretty skilled pilots. Amy Vinewood, Wastelander (Suzuki), lll-H-I-M-lll and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forza Harrd Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I have all of them. I still spend most time in either the Hydra or Savage. Still use only the Buzzard for CEO missions (Headhunter etc). Out of the SR vehicles the Starling gets most of my time. In a dogfight (I'm not exactly great but I seem to destroy most randoms I come across) I still prefer a Lazer. Hydra for transpo, Savage or Starling for fun, Buzzard for missions and Lazer for Godmode. Amy Vinewood and Geisterfaust 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geisterfaust Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 That's the issue with these new toys: all of them are PVs and you can't have both your car/ bike and the aircraft. And since AA trailer is also a PV, you can't have it while operating your new PV aircraft too. $1000 insurance is not a big issue, but still annoying since you need to call Mors, then request your aircraft via interaction menu. Lazer is a very good and universal PvP vehicle, but Pyro is better in dogfights, that's it. Good Pyro pilot will always dominate even better Lazer pilot in the air due to better maneuverability and offensive capabilities: you can spam rockets with Pyro, forcing Lazer pilots to eavde and Pyro is just faster in the same maneuver which will result catch-up and damage via machine guns.Not to mention, you can get flares/ chaff on Pyro. Explosive cannons on Lazer are dangerous in general and against ground targets. TL;DR: Lazer is good universal jet and it's free on the base, Pyro is air king for now and it's PV which have both pros and coins. Forza Harrd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafae Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Rogue Molotok Pyro In that order. Wastelander (Suzuki) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 (edited) There's a reason the first poster said he's not going to talk about the Apache lol. It's strength is legendary, and countermeasures on an attack helicopter is (to this game) revolutionary in of itself. Other than that, the honourable Amy Vinewood is also correct on the Rogue - very good all-rounder. Edited October 23, 2017 by Happy Hunter Tails Prower, Geisterfaust and Amy Vinewood 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkylineGTRFreak Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Rogue has to be my favorite plane so far. Once you get a hang of the bombs it's really good in A2G. You can also Bump into buildings or the ground and the plane won't blow up (unless you Really nosedive into something). The explosive cannons make it a Good dogfighter which can easily take on your average jet pilot. Missiles are... well, good for helis, oppressors, and so on Amy Vinewood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerZ0neX Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I'd say the Hunter, but it's not out yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh750 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 (edited) So what's the best? Bonus point if it's good in mission too, and please don't auto lock because this thread already exist(maybe, idk), i think we need this kind of thread to be put on general discussion so people can save their money. any plane you you want and can afford. Edited October 22, 2017 by hugh750 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forza Harrd Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 That's the issue with these new toys: all of them are PVs and you can't have both your car/ bike and the aircraft. And since AA trailer is also a PV, you can't have it while operating your new PV aircraft too. $1000 insurance is not a big issue, but still annoying since you need to call Mors, then request your aircraft via interaction menu. Lazer is a very good and universal PvP vehicle, but Pyro is better in dogfights, that's it. Good Pyro pilot will always dominate even better Lazer pilot in the air due to better maneuverability and offensive capabilities: you can spam rockets with Pyro, forcing Lazer pilots to eavde and Pyro is just faster in the same maneuver which will result catch-up and damage via machine guns.Not to mention, you can get flares/ chaff on Pyro. Explosive cannons on Lazer are dangerous in general and against ground targets. TL;DR: Lazer is good universal jet and it's free on the base, Pyro is air king for now and it's PV which have both pros and coins. Since this post I was fighting a Pyro with my own Pyro, and got my ass handed to me because he was better at using that speed you're talking about. I could make a hard turn behind him and he'd accelerate and be gone before I realized he was accelerating. He only had to do that a couple times before I got mixed up and turned the wrong way and he was right there. Geisterfaust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Hunter Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 the hydra is still great for everything, but you will lose dogfights against some jets so you'll also need the pyro. a vtol hydra is basically a savage with better cannon range so it's not really needed when the hunter is coming out. the buzzard and hunter are the must have choppers, possibly the cargobob too. you may also want a bomber, the rogue is a cheap one for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lll-H-I-M-lll Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Rogue if you're short on cash, Pyro if you can afford it: best dogfighting jet now, proved by several videos made by pretty skilled pilots. Ive ended up in a few dances with these pyro's and they are hard to beat Geisterfaust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geisterfaust Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) Rogue if you're short on cash, Pyro if you can afford it: best dogfighting jet now, proved by several videos made by pretty skilled pilots. Ive ended up in a few dances with these pyro's and they are hard to beat Hydra is obsolete against them, Lazer is still dangerous. When countering a Pyro in Hydra NEVER pull the brakes, never: it's closer, than you may think. And never go VTOL, that's death sentence right here. Edited October 23, 2017 by hei3enberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows to Athens Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) Rogue if you're short on cash, Pyro if you can afford it: best dogfighting jet now, proved by several videos made by pretty skilled pilots. The Pyro's good, but many people know how to dodge rockets in jets, so it's not the best. Unless you spend 10 minutes trying to get them, and you finally do, but then they bail out or EWO, or you're accurate enough with the machine guns to make their jets smoke. Your own rockets can take you out as well. Edited October 23, 2017 by Arrows to Athens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter De Blanc Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Hunter/Lazer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonorableMan Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Honestly, any of the Smuggler's Run fighters are quite capable in PvP, if one takes the time to learn their quirks and play off of their strengths. They're all very well balanced, although some have capabilities others don't. It really boils down to personal preference. If you want a bit of everything, get the Rogue. You've got options for your killing, and that's real nice. Cannons, missiles, and bombs, everything the Rogue's got is useful. It does also have a second seat, which is good. If you want constant speed and agility, and missile spam, get the Molotok. It handles more like the Hydra and the Lazer do, which is good if you're used to them; however, it can stop on a dime, and is quite stable. You can keep your guns on a target reliably, and if you want to land on a small street, it's easy to do so. If you want to be pretty much untouchable, but a little less potent with your guns, get the Starling. The rocket boost can be employed to get you immediately out of danger- just shoot straight upwards or straight downwards, and most pilots will have no clue where to find you. However, it is a much less stable firing platform; you can't stay on people's tails quite as easily, so dogfights will take a slight bit longer. I can't speak too much to the Pyro- it's the only one I don't own. I've fought a couple, piloted one for a little while, and it would seem that it's very similar to the Molotok, except with two seats. It's also a much bigger target, so there is that. My personal favorite is the Starling, despite its deficiencies in constant speed and landing ability. It's a nice cruiser, and the first-person view is beautiful. It's also the most survivable thing in the air, which cannot really be overstated. IamCourtney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coelacanth72 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Id have to go with the starling. Highest top speed, top class maneuverability, countermeasures, and the full suite of weapons available to smugglers run aircraft short of explosive canons. The rocket power may not be as convenient as a standard air sucker but it more than makes up for it during combat maneuvering and the sheer speed gives you the initiative. Its a powerful threat to targets on the ground and in the air. Geisterfaust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryancoke66 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I'm not an avid pilot but my humble opinion would have to go to (without mentioning anything unreleased) the Molotok. It's fast to take off and easy to land pretty well anywhere. Spamming rockets is a huge advantage against most players but against a skilled pilot.. typically, they're able to dodge and strafe enough to make it hard to even lock on. I flew the Pyro and it's quite good aswell but since I already own the Molotok, I don't see the point in buying the pyro - aside from the second seat lol (maybe when it's on sale) I'm interested in the fact a lot of people are mentioning the Starling. I actually thought it would be a gimmicky at first and maybe fun as a toy but I never thought of it as a real competitive plane. I'll have to give this jet more testing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Hunter Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I'm not an avid pilot but my humble opinion would have to go to (without mentioning anything unreleased) the Molotok. It's fast to take off and easy to land pretty well anywhere. Spamming rockets is a huge advantage against most players but against a skilled pilot.. typically, they're able to dodge and strafe enough to make it hard to even lock on. I flew the Pyro and it's quite good aswell but since I already own the Molotok, I don't see the point in buying the pyro - aside from the second seat lol (maybe when it's on sale) I'm interested in the fact a lot of people are mentioning the Starling. I actually thought it would be a gimmicky at first and maybe fun as a toy but I never thought of it as a real competitive plane. I'll have to give this jet more testing the molotovs is useless in air combat. it simply cannot turn fast enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
