Anyone else taken an instant dislike to Arthur Morgan

[TheSoda]

Arthur's a completely different type of badass than Red and John. Based on the second trailer, he's an asshole and I for one cannot wait to play as a scumbag and f*ck everyone's sh*t up in the game. I don't think he's unlikable - just interesting and completely fresh than the good guys we were so used to playing as.

Edited October 22, 2017 by TheSoda

[Mister Pink]

I like Morgan. But obviously I don't know him fully, yet. I got excited for Michael and Trevor but was let down by their characters so I'm going to be cautiously optimistic.

[ghostly dude]

He seems a hell alot nicer than Herbert Moon.

I would play RDR2 with Herbert Moon as the protagonist.

[saintsrow]

 

She could have been talking to someone else.

 

 

 

 

Could have been talking to Marston.

 

 

This was my expectation. Trailers in general are notorious for misleading edits, to create artificial drama, and to create questions that the audience feels compelled to resolve, leading to more sales.

Edited October 26, 2017 by saintsrow

[Mister Pink]

 

 

She could have been talking to someone else.

 

 

 

 

Could have been talking to Marston.

 

 

This was my expectation. Trailers ikn general are notorious for misleading edits, to create artificial drama, and to create questions that the audience feels compelled to resolve, leading to more sales.

 

 

Good point. Yeah, that's why lately I try to remain skeptical or not too involved lately for fear of misreading a a story premise and then being let down when it's something completely different in the game. With RDR, I'm avoiding speculation and just sticking to the trailers. I may talk about speculation but I'm trying to stay away from speculating in general. I want RDR2 to feel new to me as RDR did at the time. Want to go in with no expectations. I think with V, I hung on to every piece of info and created this expectation and hope of what the game would be, only to find it not close to how I imagined.

 

As a gamer, I do try take some responsibility for not over-hyping a game for myself or having unrealistic expectations. If only I had the foresight to do that back when IV and V release build-ups.

 

I've only watched the trailer a few times and forget most of it by now. I do like Morgan visually. By that, I mean he doesn't have a face I want to punch.

[DexMacLeod]

I think Rockstar trailers generally do a good job of accurately representing the characters and the theme/tone of their games. This is what worries me about Arthur as we mostly see him pushing around/intimidating smaller and weaker people. That just doesn't seem very compelling or fun to me.

 

I'm hoping it's all a big swerve though. The trailers tend to accurately represent their characters because there typically isn't a whole lot to them, growth wise. Who you see in the first minute is generally who see in the last minute and every minute in between. I hope Rockstar's finally created a character that evolves as the story does rather than just acquire more and more money, possessions and kills.

[HeteroDahmer]

No, I'm not going to take an instant dislike to a character after listening to quite literally a few lines of dialouge.

Edited October 31, 2017 by HeteroDahmer

[PwnageSoldier]

Okay if we're gonna joke about GTA protags, I'd say the best badass GTA protagonist would be the online character lel

 

Anyways, OT.

Personally, I like him a lot. I love playing as evil men who don't take sh*t. It allows me to feel okay when I "accidentally" put a hogtied woman on the train tracks.

Edited October 31, 2017 by PwnageSoldier

[Cutter De Blanc]

I wonder if they made him seem kind of unlikable to some people in order to push them to play online

[DeadEyeAdler]

I wonder if they made him seem kind of unlikable to some people in order to push them to play online

You've got to be kidding, right?

[PapasHota]

The first impressions ive had with John Marston is that he was just another Clint Eastwood impersonator, untill like 6 missions after i saw he had a personality and he turned out to be my favorite character in any kind of media, hopeful Morgan is something like this

[SeniorDerp]

I wonder if they made him seem kind of unlikable to some people in order to push them to play online

 

R* has already said that they have focused heavy on single player content for RDR2

[-Captain-]

Instant dislike? Definitely not. Neither am I sold on him, we got like one minute of footage. I am not basing my opinion on that little info.

 

I love the idea of being a big asshole outlaw. We essentially murder and rob in this game. Wouldn't make much sense of it would be a Mr. Niceguy. Anyway I just think it's weird that there have been quite a few comments like this. I really don't get why some people have a problem with Arthur being an ass. Should be actually really interesting and even refreshing.

Edited December 2, 2017 by -Captain-

[SS97]

Just throwing it out there, 1st trailer got me ultra excited for the game.

 

This second trailer was massively disappointing for me. The new protagonist seems like an absolute a hole, I mean I'm a RDR explorer and it just won't feel right exploring with this dude.

 

Really can't get my head round this new guy so thought throw it out to the community...

Dont know if someone already mentioned this but its probably because all the r* games protagonists were very succesful. Tommy, CJ, Niko,John , Trevor all made us to set our expectations too high.

 

But when it comes to character creation. I trust rockstar. So i dont have any worries about Arthur Morgan. When the game launches i believe he will be as succesful as Marston

Edited December 4, 2017 by SS97

[Heidi McCourt]

Yeah your gaining all this info from a video that was barely 2 mins, I honestly can't wait to play as a badass outlaw this time around. I loved John but I felt very restricted to doing good, I want to be able to do both good and bad and not feel that the character is out of place outside of the story. Now I didn't see an A hole in Arthur Morgan at all, yes he threatened a young man and yelled at a man demanding his money but you have no info about what those people did to him in the first place. For example the young man could've possible threatened to snitch on Arthur or the gang... my point is that theres two sides to the story in every encounter in a Rockstar game. I personally see Arthur as being more of a neutral character based on what I saw from him in the second trailer. Also for the people that say Arthur is another trevor or something similar to that... you are very special. You can clearly tell the difference between Arthur and trevor as Trevor is a 2D psychotic man baby and Arthur is a man that has to do what he has to do to survive in the old west, in my opinion is badass.

Edited December 30, 2017 by Heidi McCourt

[Oldsport]

ha

[White Shark]

Lol, the OP's post didn't age well.  

 

Arthur Morgan, hands down, greatest character I've ever played as.

[GTAgamerWyald]

Best rockstar protagonist imo and undoubtedly the most badass. He has great characterization and probably the most development along with John Marston. 

 

Dutch deserves a shoutout too for being the most interesting antagonist rockstar has created.

[White Shark]

14 minutes ago, GTAgamerCR7 said:

Best rockstar protagonist imo and undoubtedly the most badass. He has great characterization and probably the most development along with John Marston. 

 

Dutch deserves a shoutout too for being the most interesting antagonist rockstar has created.

Agreed on Dutch.  He had many bad-ass moments.

 

"That's right.  Burn this DUMP to the ground!!!"

[Furi0sa]

Where's op to admit how wrong he was

 

I want to shake the man's hand who provided that epic performance for dutch.

 

OT but I see a mafia 2 avatar up there. RIP Joe, another one of gaming's goats. I pretend Mafia 3 never happened.

Edited November 24, 2018 by scotthedge12

[FlyDog1608]

Boah, if you don't like Arthur, just imagine Micah Bell 3rd

[RyuNova]

I thought he was going to be a thug but what we got was a good man hiding behind the persona of a thug.

[Montana Actual]

I don't judge people by their looks. I judge them by their character. Unless you look like trash. For example: An obese female wearing a shirt that reads "Suck my giant woman balls" while pouring her rolls out of her yoga pants and flip flops through wal-mart in a snowy -9 degree northern Montana day, is pretty much stereotyping themselves for you. Pretty much 60% of people who go to wal-mart.

So no, in a video game, I cannot say that I instantly dislike a protag based on a trailer that was released before completion. I think Arthur still has the capability to be an explorer, they just failed to make it relevant in the story. Like, when you have already completed exploration of the map and done all stranger/side quests available in the mission time frame, but when told you are moving camp, Arthur acts like he has never been there before. It would be cooler to be on the same page and say something like "I have explored a bit up there", like Charles does when you clear out the Murfree Brood from Beaver Hollow.

Also: I loved Trevor. I loved all 3 of them in GTA V. Great story. Very unique.

On 11/24/2018 at 2:48 PM, scotthedge12 said:

Where's op to admit how wrong he was

This. Arthur has a very distinct "I don't care about you" persona early in the game, and through progress and health, learns that maybe regardless of his lifestyle choices, there is still a way to be an honorable person to those that deserve it.

[RJX74]

I just want to pop in to say I felt the exact same way when I saw trailer 2. I was like wow, what an evil guy.

 

But ofc I ended up liking him a lot.

[Couch99]

I doubt anyone will see this, but I came back here anyway just to let you know how wrong you were for disliking Arthur Morgan. He's turned out to be one of the best video game characters of all time and definitely surpasses John Marston, Trevor, CJ 

[Oldsport]

dont think he surpasses john marston

Edited August 27, 2019 by Oldsport

[Big Molio]

8 hours ago, Couch99 said:

I doubt anyone will see this, but I came back here anyway just to let you know how wrong you were for disliking Arthur Morgan. He's turned out to be one of the best video game characters of all time and definitely surpasses John Marston, Trevor, CJ 

I grew to like him, and he was a sympathetic character at the end when he was obviously dying, but when comparing them directly, I prefer John Marston.

[Guest Guest176525326]

On 8/26/2019 at 4:30 AM, Oldsport said:

dont think he surpasses john marston

Nope. Arthur Morgan is a great Rockstar character, but he just falls short of the legends like Niko Bellic, Trevor Philips and John Marston

[Cutter De Blanc]

On 8/25/2019 at 8:30 PM, Oldsport said:

dont think he surpasses john marston

I like John a whole lot less after seeing him in rdr2

[Grotti Vigilante]

3 hours ago, O.Z said:

Nope. Arthur Morgan is a great Rockstar character, but he just falls short of the legends like Niko Bellic, Trevor Philips and John Marston

I personally disagree about Trevor Philips being better than Arthur Morgan, and I wouldn't even dare go as far as call him a legend. Niko Bellic and John Marston are definitely deserving of course (especially since the two remind me so much of each other), but not Trevor for me. He's better than a good few GTA protagonists, especially Franklin Clinton, a co-star in his own game, but I'd never put him on the same level as Niko, John and Arthur. Maybe not even on the same level as CJ personally.

 

2 hours ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

I like John a whole lot less after seeing him in rdr2

I think RDR II strengthened his character personally. He had an arc of going from a deadbeat father to someone who at least made the effort to provide for his family. I can see why this deadbeat side might put people off and make them dislike him, but that was what he used to be, and we can't really hold it against him now. Even though I preferred Arthur, I didn't like John any less, so I'm not sure whether an arguably better protagonist would make a difference for most people. To each their own anyway.

Edited August 29, 2019 by Grotti Vigilante