Aztecas and Vagos don't have sets?

[GroveStreetOG92]

Why didn't these 2 have their neighborhoods broken down into sets like Ballas & Families? I still look at Vagos different territories as separate sets tho. And Aztecas have 3 general areas they are in which is El Corona,Unity Station and Little Mexico so to me those are different sets of Aztecas. Like the ones in the Projects and the ones on the Dead End street aren't the same Aztecas set to me. They all are Aztecas but each function differently and each is its own neighborhood set? What do yall think? Let me know because Vagos and Aztecas are confusing compared to their counter parts Ballas and Families.

[endochronic_]

I dont think Vagos would work on group set because Vagos isn't give a lot of impact on the storyline, Vagos mostly appears on Big Smoke mission but after than that, Vagos appears on Gang War and only take a minor role on another mission. Aztecas only have small area which is Little Mexico area and LVA isn't involved too much on the mission beside on Cesar mission. I don't think it necessary to add a set within the both gang itself

Edited September 30, 2017 by Terrc87

[TripleOGJohnson]

In my game, we gave the VAGOS set names and treated Vagos/Eses more like an alliance than a hood using the number 19 (S in Spanish is ESE/19). The names/sets were 13th Street Gang, Flores 19, Jamestown 18th Street, Varrio East Side 19th Street, Mara Salvaje 19, and El Corona 19. Varrio Los Aztecas was independent but I will mention them none the less. Those were the Ese/Vagos hoods in my game, they were based on geographical location and it became a tradition that I carried on with me into GTA V.

 

 

Edited July 22, 2018 by TripleOGJohnson

[Ballas King]

No, and sets dont affect Ballas much either except for their graffities, I dont even remember them mentioned in dialogues. Only GSF have story wise inter set feud....

[Copcaller]

It is weird cause the vagos and rifas should be the oldest Street gang likely been around since the late 60s. Some even older

[Jeansowaty]

I believe there are sets, we just don't know too much about them because it wasn't necessary for the story. Anyways, in my game there are the following sets (1993):

 

The LSV are split into:

-The normal Los Santos Vagos organisation, they are holed up in East Beach and Las Colinas

-26th Street Vagos (they control Los Flores, heavily into arms trafficking)

-Temple Drive Vagos (a small set that activated after the Vagos were kicked out from Madd Dogg's Mansion, they are active in a small strip of Temple and Mulholland)

 

The Aztecas in turn:

-Normal VLA, they run El Corona, Unity Station and Little Mexico

-Varrios Los Nueves (a really weak set, known to wear purple at times. Tried to become independent and had an on/off relationship with the regular VLA cats and the Russian Mafia. They hang out in a few boroughs of Ocean Docks)

-Kilo Tray Aztecas (a set that boycotted and split from the VLA for good and became their fierce enemy, they have a tight alliance with the Ballas and deal drugs from Verdant Bluffs)

[Ballas King]

On 6/3/2019 at 1:49 PM, Jeansowaty said:

I believe there are sets, we just don't know too much about them because it wasn't necessary for the story. Anyways, in my game there are the following sets (1993):

 

The LSV are split into:

-The normal Los Santos Vagos organisation, they are holed up in East Beach and Las Colinas

-26th Street Vagos (they control Los Flores, heavily into arms trafficking)

-Temple Drive Vagos (a small set that activated after the Vagos were kicked out from Madd Dogg's Mansion, they are active in a small strip of Temple and Mulholland)

 

The Aztecas in turn:

-Normal VLA, they run El Corona, Unity Station and Little Mexico

-Varrios Los Nueves (a really weak set, known to wear purple at times. Tried to become independent and had an on/off relationship with the regular VLA cats and the Russian Mafia. They hang out in a few boroughs of Ocean Docks)

-Kilo Tray Aztecas (a set that boycotted and split from the VLA for good and became their fierce enemy, they have a tight alliance with the Ballas and deal drugs from Verdant Bluffs)

Fan made but I appreciate the effort XD.

[Jeansowaty]

10 hours ago, wfank said:

Fan made but I appreciate the effort XD.

Obviously!

[santosvagos]

I think every gangs in SA suppose to be divided in many different sets and each set is working independent from each others . Vagos can separate in to 3 sets : East beach vagos , North side vagos , Las colinas vagos and Aztecas don't have sets since they are the smallest gang in LS and if they divide into separate sets , they won't stand a chance to survive the ballas and vagos . Just my thought .

Edited June 23, 2019 by santosvagos

[Ballas King]

On 6/23/2019 at 10:23 PM, santosvagos said:

I think every gangs in SA suppose to be divided in many different sets and each set is working independent from each others . Vagos can separate in to 3 sets : East beach vagos , North side vagos , Las colinas vagos and Aztecas don't have sets since they are the smallest gang in LS and if they divide into separate sets , they won't stand a chance to survive the ballas and vagos . Just my thought .

Nah Aztecas have insufficient territories to be divided in sets lol. Sets are useless, unrecognizable,different gangs are good enough.

Edited August 21, 2019 by wfank

[Baniqua]

On 7/23/2018 at 12:39 AM, TripleOGJohnson said:

 

 

Edited December 16, 2019 by Baniqua

[Guest]

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Edited June 10, 2020 by Guest

[Big_Smiley]

 I always liked to think Vagos at least had some influence in east beach before being taken over by GSF (players choice). From the normal game on, Vagos and Aztecas always seemed like the smallest gangs to me in LS. Almost like they didn't even matter after the events of the story line. As of now looking back to my progess, Vagos are fighting their way to become the biggest gang since they seen opportunities to expand their influence in LV.

Edited December 16, 2019 by Big_Smiley
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[santosvagos]

On 8/22/2019 at 6:42 AM, Ballas King said:

Nah Aztecas have insufficient territories to be divided in sets lol. Sets are useless, unrecognizable,different gangs are good enough.

That because Rockstar is too lazy to do it . The ballas and the families are divided into many different sets but you see no differences in game .

[Ballas King]

On 12/17/2019 at 2:51 AM, Big_Smiley said:

 I always liked to think Vagos at least had some influence in east beach before being taken over by GSF (players choice). From the normal game on, Vagos and Aztecas always seemed like the smallest gangs to me in LS. Almost like they didn't even matter after the events of the story line. As of now looking back to my progess, Vagos are fighting their way to become the biggest gang since they seen opportunities to expand their influence in LV.

Vagos are pretty big. Its just the main gang rivalry is the GSF-Ballas rivalry. Vagos are initially the 2nd biggest gang with 13 territories compared to GSF's 11. I actually feel the SF gangs deserved better, they hardly have any influence even in SF, the Triads - Da Nang rivalry is only explored in missions otherwise its non existent.

 

On 12/17/2019 at 1:05 PM, santosvagos said:

That because Rockstar is too lazy to do it . The ballas and the families are divided into many different sets but you see no differences in game .

. Still SA imo has the best and most diversified gangs. Sets dont matter, but I wish gangs like the Triads and Da Nangs in SF had more territorials and visible street gunfights like Ballas and GSFs do in LS.

[Big_Smiley]

14 hours ago, Ballas King said:

Vagos are pretty big. Its just the main gang

is the GSF-Ballas rivalry. Vagos are initially the 2nd biggest gang with 13 territories compared to GSF's 11. I actually feel the SF gangs deserved better, they hardly have any influence even in SF, the Triads - Da Nang rivalry is only explored in missions otherwise its non existent.

From the main game yes Vagos are the biggest. But obviously it's up to the players choice when gang wars become available after dobermen. From the my main save file, Vagos as of know are in a tight spot in LS since half of Los Colinas has Grove ST influence. And I decided Aztecas needs to rack up some other sets in LS. The aztecas are really the only true smallest gang here. So they have half Los flores controlled while GSF and Vagos go at it. It's not a fun show when Vagos and Aztecas meet each other at the end of the hood, lol. Aztecas also have influence in Vinewood which also has Vago influence again but is controlled by Temple Drive Hood  which is borderd by temple run by Temple Drive Families. While Market is completely ran by Vagos.

 

It's a whole different story in LV. Each gangs are separated. Meaning violent confrontations are a bit rare on the streets in LV except for any territories close to each other. LS is becoming a sh*t hole with rivalries so Vagos have moved out of town to settle down in LV along with a Balla set. Because...well I couldn't resist, lol. I miss these guys when I visit other Grove sets in LV. So I had to give them influence aswell. Familes have 5 different sets in LV as they're currently the biggest gang in LV. Vagos now have 3 different territories. The only hood under constant attack is Rockshore west which is run by the "Rockshore West Side Familes" as I call them. Rockshore east is exactly the next block off of the west side. And of course Vagos moved in to claim their turf. "East side Vagos or varrio Rockshore have been in check ever since. Confrontations happen often here. Leading up to shootouts.

 

Ballas controll a small part of Starfish casino. A small hood I gave them, but it's extremely dark purple meaning these Ballas, now called ThruWay EastSide Ballas have a major influence here. The name Thurway comes from the nearby freeway called " Julius Thurway East". My f*cking tires are constantly getting shot at when I pass through here lmao....I just had to bring these guys here. Ballas are fun as hell to mess with. Now I can hear "I PAY TAXES TOO! MUTHAF*CKA!!" everytime I pass here, lmaoo my favorite balla member. Starfish is on the border line with Creek so there's always major confrontations with 

CreekSide Familes or just simply "Creek Hood". Redsands West is run by the familes as well but since Aztecas also have a large presence there (Varrio RedSand) it's really the only rough and crappy neighborhood in LV. Drug dealers spawn to the max, Prostitutes risking their lifes at night, police helicopters flying all over the place with it's search light on, pedestrians do their best to avoid the large group of gangs. And a big increase in LVPD patroll cars. In short Vagos rarley get attacked except for their east side allies which are checked occasionally by the westside familes across the street.

 

Currently I'm making WhiteWood have both GSF and Balla density so that will be interesting, lol. For this save I have decided not to include any other gangs in SF for now. No Vago sets, Ballas, Aztecas, etc... Currently only GSF have 4 sets in SF. Soon with other handy glitches, I'll make third party gangs most notably the San Ferrio Riffa appear in LS in certain locations while the Dang nang Boyz have a cut of turf back in LV. Keep forgetting these guys even exist, lmao.

 

All I did here is just expand these gangs out to other cities. And since each street has it's name, each gang had it's own set name so they can be distinct with the original gangs in LS. Just my own perspective. All this started mostly with the vagos since I low-key ruined their strong hold in Los Colinas, lol. But decided to also include the Ballas along with a single Azteca set. Found these ways a bit more reliable compared to the fly off the map glitch since that radomly juts puts gangs anywhere and with a low density. And of course I do agree SA having a grate diversity of gangs. It's really been the only gta game to truly capture street gangs perfectly. V's familes and ballas are just a bit washed out. Their damn hoods border line with each other but yet in the normal game you never see any confrontations. The same with Vagos and Aztecas. It's almost like their scripted to avoid one another. Mods are the only answer to see any SA related type of gang confrontations in V. 

 

Edited December 19, 2019 by Big_Smiley
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[Ballas King]

Before giving Aztecas sets, they need to give them more territories..