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Blasterman4EVER

If Dutch is alive, so is John Marsten.

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Blasterman4EVER

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has thought about this, and then considered what this means for our chances of seeing a young John Marsten.

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Rafae

You're definitely the first person who thought of this

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Blasterman4EVER

You're definitely the first person who thought of this

Not possible.

 

I know there are thousands like me who are simply hoping to meet him young, or for fantasy's sake, play as him.

 

Now that we know the trailer mentions Dutch at the height of his gang power, or reaching for it, that means John Marsten should be hanging around, since he was in his gang.

 

Figured everyone is amped and wondering about this.

 

I speculate that the trailer and trailers will do much to avoid the jaw-dropping reveal to us all:

 

John Marsten will be one of the characters we get to play as, as a young man.

 

I could see the slow motion epic scene as he takes off his cowboy dash and suddenly you are him.

 

It may be a pipe-dream to hope to play as him, but it is not arguable that he will be in this game. And not just for a few minutes.

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Rafae

lol for fk sake

 

We've been discussing this since last year and you suddenly realize John Marston is alive in RDR2 too

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Blasterman4EVER

lol for fk sake

 

We've been discussing this since last year and you suddenly realize John Marston is alive in RDR2 too

Are you extremely sarcastically saying that you and everyone else together knew that RDR2 was going to be a prequel?

 

Because I didn't know for sure that it would be a prequel.

 

Either way, went down the threads and didn't see anyone talking about it.

 

Anyways..........

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Rafae

No but everyone had a good intuition about it considering it was called RDR2 and the West came to end for the most part at the end of RDR

 

Not to mention the towns and other little details in Trailer 1. It was pretty much a given. This trailer just confirmed it.

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Blasterman4EVER

Well, we weren't sure that we'd be focusing on characters previously in RDR. Based on GTA V, and its almost complete disavowal of everyone in IV, I wasn't sure if we'd ever even hear the words John Marsten, so the only surprise in the trailer story wise was when they revealed Dutch is going to be a big part.

 

When I qualified my original post by saying I am sure I am not the only one who thought about this, was it really so transparent that I said that, that you had to be sarcastic?

 

 

Or do you really, really, really think it has always been extremely obvious that a young John Marsten would be in RDR2?

 

If so, fine. I'll go fantasize about playing as young JM by myself thank you very much!

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Rafae

Considering the game focuses on the adventures of the Van Der Linde gang, I'd say we're due for a John Marston appearance easily

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Blasterman4EVER

Considering the game focuses on the adventures of the Van Der Linde gang, I'd say we're due for a John Marston appearance easily

I didn't know until this trailer that it would be focusing on that gang.

 

I'm someone who tries to avoid hype leading up to a release past a certain point. After this, I'll be trying to ignore details.

 

When I fired up GTA V on day one, I actually wasn't aware that you could play as multiple characters. So I'm pretty good at putting my head in the sand regarding a game series I like so that I can experience some surprises.

 

So... I don't know anything about his game besides what I just saw in the trailer.

 

I don't like knowing everything about a big game or movie before I play it.

 

It ruins it.

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NikosUncle

Maybe we'll kill John in this game.

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Rafae

Marston

Oh, and this. First and foremost.

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Johnson Johnson

Maybe they dont consider RDR1 as canon anymore, like they did with gta 3d and hd era, RDRevolver 3D era, RDR1 sub HD era, RDR2 HD era

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Rafae

Maybe they dont consider RDR1 as canon anymore, like they did with gta 3d and hd era, RDRevolver 3D era, RDR1 sub HD era, RDR2 HD era

You just now picked up on this?

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Blasterman4EVER

 

Marston

Oh, and this. First and foremost.Oh yeah yeah way to jump on the puncuation grammar spelling train now... sheesh!!!!!!

 

ARGGGHHHH

 

 

Why would they not consider RDR canon. That doesn't make sense to me.

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Mach1bud

They are messing with you Blaster. Most people that kept up with this knew Marston would be in it in some fashion. Also it appears he is in the artwork.

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Rafae

Why would they not consider RDR canon. That doesn't make sense to me.

Because this game literally has some of the recurring characters from RDR. We picked up on this with the artwork they released a year ago.

 

JESUS

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Holland_Hicks

Might be kind of early for this but I really hope we get a single player expansion where you play as Arthur and John. Perhaps they team up in an Undead Nightmare scenario. Wouldn't make sense for them to interact much in the main game since you know, Arthur isn't mentioned at all.

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Blasterman4EVER

 

Why would they not consider RDR canon. That doesn't make sense to me.

Because this game literally has some of the recurring characters from RDR. We picked up on this with the artwork they released a year ago.

 

JESUS

Would you say that you know most of what there is to know about this upcoming game?

 

Am I in a threatening place here where I cannot speculate on this game without being harassed by men and boys who are far more accomplished at knowing the leaks, previews, and ongoing speculations about RDR2?

 

I still don't understand how not making RDR canon is even the slightest possibility.

 

I assert that there is a ZERO chance that Red Dead Redemption is not canon in relation to RDR2.

 

Why?

 

Because it's called Red Dead Redemption TWO!!!!

 

I'm beginning to assume this thread will result in me having to block rafae, when historically we have been so friendly, simply because he is having a difficult time dealing with my perspective on RDR.

 

I'm being video game preview knowledge-shamed. Woe is me.

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Rafae

 

^ Do you know the meaning of canon?

 

It means in entirely separate universes ala the 3D GTAs and the HD ones. Clearly that's not the case with RDR and RDR2.

 

 

Why would they not consider RDR canon. That doesn't make sense to me.

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Static

Thats not what canon means at all.

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Rafae

 

Well f*ck

 

Guess I got the meaning of canon wrong because this dude used it in the wrong way and I just went along with it smh.

 

Maybe they dont consider RDR1 as canon anymore, like they did with gta 3d and hd era, RDRevolver 3D era, RDR1 sub HD era, RDR2 HD era

Regardless, the message I'm trying to get across should be clear: RDR and RDR2 share similar universes.

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Blasterman4EVER

^ Do you know the meaning of canon?

 

It means in entirely separate universes ala the 3D GTAs and the HD ones. Clearly that's not the case with RDR and RDR2.

 

 

 

Why would they not consider RDR canon. That doesn't make sense to me.

What?

 

Canon means part of the same universe, with stories that are consistent. Characters, etc.

 

Star Wars Episode 1-7 are canon.

 

Why would the second installment in a series not be canon?

 

By saying RDR is not cannon, you're saying they're starting over with a....

 

 

Wait forget it just hold on....

 

 

 

Rather than go through something where we arenoverexplaining ourselves, here:

 

Red Dead Redemption 1 and 2 are in the same universe. If a character is dead, he is dead. If 2 is before 1, the story will be true with respect to 1.

 

I think there is a ZERO chance that this is not the case.

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Rafae

^ Read my above message. We had the same idea, I just had the wrong understanding of the meaning of "canon"

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Blasterman4EVER

Ok Rafae buddy, please tell us whether or not you think we are going to get to play as John Marsten.

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Rafae

Marston*

 

And probably not. We'll most likely get to see him from a third person POV though.

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Mach1bud

I think we will play as him after Arthur dies at the end.

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Eastern Outlaw

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has thought about this, and then considered what this means for our chances of seeing a young John Marsten.

It takes some serious brain power to figure this one out

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sSiL3NZz

Nice troll.

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Matrelith

It's almost as if RDR2 will be a prequel.

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