Rockstar reveals second trailer for Red Dead Redemption 2!

[wagszilla]

Alrighty guys, here's my stab at the old analysis machine.

 

Here's the lineup that I can ascertain thus far.

 

 

My guess at the plot:

 

We're set 15 years prior to the first Red Dead.

 

Dutch Van Der Linde is a semi-respectable outlaw. He's a combination of Al Swearengin and Powers Booth's character from Deadwood. Half protective angel, half mean sonofabitch. But other gangs and government interference threaten his operation and a young escaped outlaw comes into town and threatens to undo everything he's built. His eden is quickly crumbling.

 

Van der Linde's gang starts as a somewhat respectable operation but when a young Blonde Cowgirl (possibly Heidi McCourt? although that is too on-the-nose perhaps) gets in a brawl with one of Dutch's hoods by stabbing him in the hand (let's call him Fake Bill because his hat has 2 curls instead of just 1), as seen in the trailer, Dutch is one man short for a big train heist. A newcomer outlaw (Arthur) is just what the doctor ordered, coming in on the outskirts of the gang by working with the Native listed above. "We need an extra gun"

 

Look at the artwork above. If correct, it is Dutch and Bill that surround Arthur. They appear to be watching him like hawks. Soon jealousy turns Dutch mad and Bill turns into Dutch's lapdog.

 

"John.... When the time comes.... you got to run away and don't look back. This is over"

 

Arthur is portrayed as a heartless bastard in the trailer and he may well be but I think we will come to see him as more sympathetic and Dutch as more villainous as the plot unfolds. But not pure villainy, he will merely be a product of his circumstances and will have acted trying to stem the tide of fate. I also think we will come to see John as some who was somewhat manipulated by Arthur, and Dutch is a far sympathetic figure all along. "You always had a high opinion of yourself, John". It'll be something like the end of Vice City where Lance turns against Tommy but I think both Arthur and Dutch will turn against each other. Everyone else will have to choose sides.

 

Derby Hat guy would be the guy who says "Ain't no such thing as civilized" (who sounds mighty like the late Powers Booth, I might add) but I see no conclusive proof of him or Old Timer in the trailer, who has blonde or silver hair as portrayed by the specular highlight in the artwork.

 

Any way, I am excited as you can tell, but I must get back to work I've been avoiding all day. Damn you Rockstar. You beautiful developers you.

[MojoGamer]

The trailer was reuploaded (well, uploaded again, not replaced) to the R* channel with the PS4 adverts, they did the same with the debut trailer on some of the international channels. The end mentions details to follow on select RDR2 content on PS4.

A friendly reminder that PlayStation owners will get additional benefits for Red Dead Redemption 2, including first access to select online content. We’ll have more specifics to share there in the months ahead.

https://blog.eu.playstation.com/2017/09/28/check-out-rockstars-new-red-dead-redemption-2-trailer/

It has to be the deal that will allow PS4 gamers to play Online before Xbone.

Edited September 28, 2017 by MojoGamer

[Niobium]

after the piece of crap that was GTA V, i hate rockstar too much to be able to want to buy this game. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[MojoGamer]

after the piece of crap that was GTA V, i hate rockstar too much to be able to want to buy this game. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I feel it too, but look on the bright. Nostalgia works better for RDR and not Vice City.

[Igor Bogdanoff]

It has to be the deal that will allow PS4 gamers to play Online before Xbone.

 

Is that bad thing or good thing for xbox players?

[Ray_Velcoro]

Why the first thing i noticed on second shot was horse balls ?

[Nutduster]

after the piece of crap that was GTA V, i hate rockstar too much to be able to want to buy this game. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

GTA V was a quality game, it just had a cancerous growth attached to it.

[volta2001]

Possible the crying widow is Abigail and the boy is Jack? This could be 1 story told non linear. Would go along with that leaker who got Arthur correct.

[LegacyKillaHD]

Possible the crying widow is Abigail and the boy is Jack? This could be 1 story told non linear. Would go along with that leaker who got Arthur correct.

Who leaked Arthur?

[Corndawg93]

Holy crap, Dutch is in this, cool, I look forward to exploring those mountains and the forests

[Spider-Vice]

 

Possible the crying widow is Abigail and the boy is Jack? This could be 1 story told non linear. Would go along with that leaker who got Arthur correct.

Who leaked Arthur?

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/871075-red-dead-redemption-2-general-chat/page-642?do=findComment&comment=1069865570

 

From a reddit post that apparently appeared before announcement.

[volta2001]

 

Possible the crying widow is Abigail and the boy is Jack? This could be 1 story told non linear. Would go along with that leaker who got Arthur correct.

Who leaked Arthur?

 

 

thnx -edit

Edited September 28, 2017 by volta2001

[Spider-Vice]

Ninja'd

[MojoGamer]

Alrighty guys, here's my stab at the old analysis machine.

 

Here's the lineup that I can ascertain thus far.

 

 

 

the old timer, actually has to be Javier Escuella and his Mexican

[GourangaMaster]

The sky box and clouds in this new trailer are looking beautiful. I admit the first trailer had me concerned with how similar to GTAV the lighting and sky box were but this here is far beyond anything in GTAV. I can't wait to see a sunset in this game because judging by the glimpses in this trailer it will be really something special.

 

[Spider-Vice]

That last scene reminds me a lot of the Witcher 3 tbh.

[greenrock]

the old timer looks like Landon Ricketts, but its probably a new character (homage) to him

[MojoGamer]

the old timer looks like Landon Ricketts, but its probably a new character (homage) to him

his a duel weilder and has a similar hat and dark face like the Black Guy next to him

He also has a big nose like the old timer

Edited September 28, 2017 by MojoGamer

[oCrapaCreeper]

Most of the trees seen seem to be re-used from GTA5.

 

Or maybe, the current gen versions were using trees from RDR2 in the first place. That'd make sense.

[Spider-Vice]

Most of the trees seen seem to be re-used from GTA5.

 

Or maybe, the current gen versions were using trees from RDR2 in the first place. That'd make sense.

That's what I've been thinking. I mean, RDR2 was already in development then very likely. It's possible that V NG's engine was based on an earlier version of RDR2's too.

[MojoGamer]

 

Most of the trees seen seem to be re-used from GTA5.

 

Or maybe, the current gen versions were using trees from RDR2 in the first place. That'd make sense.

That's what I've been thinking. I mean, RDR2 was already in development then very likely. It's possible that V NG's engine was based on an earlier version of RDR2's too.

 

This is why I believe they delayed RDR2, after messaging them I want a 4k game.

[Kipsta]

I just wonder how much Sony paid them to keep this one off PC...

[Dee-account-with-1kbans]

Wish we got something more than a trailer.

Edited September 28, 2017 by Dee.

[MojoGamer]

 

 

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Edited September 28, 2017 by MojoGamer

[Marston1911]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/video_previews/e/z/ezazd1yze63x4a4_y-xux5kfqun5-kju.jpg?imwidth=450

 

It's probably a coincidence, but the entire time the middle character walks away at 1 min 14 of this clip, his right side faces Williamson. That is where Bill shot John at the beginning of RDR. It could be a younger John, but probably not.

 

 

[BaileyPoints]

Here's my opinion on the latest trailer and stuff I noticed:

The trailer for me, was a true masterpiece. The world & scenery combined with these outstanding graphics is absolutely beautiful. From first watching the trailer I did see a few locations that where from the leaked map, mainly the "Flat Iron" lake running through the map.

The new protagonist, Arthur Morgan is a fresh new face to the Rockstar universe. He has his own unique personality which was displayed throughout the trailer in his actions and dialogue. He seems to be a much more bolder & merciless character fitting the persona of a true outlaw of the Old American West. I see many people comparing Arthur Morgan to John Marston, which in some way I disagree with because Arthur is a completely different character with different ambitions & goals. However Arthur & John will have one thing in common, hence the name Redemption.It's still too early on to make a judgement on him and I think Rockstar will make him a character that in a few years time will say we loved!

Even though many of us speculated the game was going to be a prequel and focus around Dutch's gang, seeing this in the trailer didn't let me down however it made me even more interested. Most of John Marston's dialogue and even the story focused around John's past and Dutch's gang in Red Dead Redemption, so to finally see the event's which led to Redemption has got me super pumped. What caused the falling out? Why isn't Arthur Morgan in Redemption? What really happened in the botched boat/bank robbery? Who is Heidi McCourt? There is so many questions. This is a game for the fans, us.

I am eager to find out in the upcoming weeks/months through more information & news drops more about Arthur, Dutch and to see what type of role John will play in this story. I haven't been this anticipated for a game in such a long time. The hype for Red Dead Redemption 2 has made me replay the first game three times since announcement.

Also a few things I noticed in the trailer which I haven't seen noted yet:

• Dutch appears more than once in the trailer. He appears twice and gives two separate pieces of dialogue. First we see him wearing his hat and balaclava covering his face (00:57) and at the end were he speaks to Morgan.
  
• In one of the final scenes of the trailer, could this be Bill, John & Arthur walking away from the mansion on fire? (01:14). The smart attire from the person in the middle may make you dismiss this, but Dutch looks pretty well of and we know that Dutch took in John after he escaped an orphanage. So could the connection between John and Dutch be much stronger than what we already know?
  
• Also the person next to the female woman in the saloon wearing the bowler hat when she stabs the man in the hand is probably the other character from the artwork, now filling in another slot (01:03)?
  

Edited September 28, 2017 by BaileyPoints

[m8son]

That guy positioned in the back of the artwork has to be Edgar Ross, it's obviously his voice near the beginning of the trailer. I can see him being the lawman that "chased them from the west and over the mountains." Considering the leaked map is real maybe the game starts in West Elizabeth then something goes down in Blackwater, leaving the gang to flee East over the mountains being hunted by Ross and other lawmen throughout the game

 

Edit - And if that is really John on the far left it would make sense to have Edgar positioned in between him and the rest of the gang, considering he was the main factor that divided them

Edited September 29, 2017 by m8son

[Pepperjack]

Possible the crying widow is Abigail and the boy is Jack? This could be 1 story told non linear. Would go along with that leaker who got Arthur correct.

So she changed her hair color and got contacts after John died? Okay

[MojoGamer]

 

Possible the crying widow is Abigail and the boy is Jack? This could be 1 story told non linear. Would go along with that leaker who got Arthur correct.

So she changed her hair color and got contacts after John died? Okay

 

The boy looks older then 18, Dutch in RDR1 guessed Marston's son was 15 to 16 yrs old

RDR1 took place in 1911 and Jack was born in 1895, so his 16

Edited September 29, 2017 by MojoGamer

[HandSoap2811]

 

 

Possible the crying widow is Abigail and the boy is Jack? This could be 1 story told non linear. Would go along with that leaker who got Arthur correct.

Who leaked Arthur?

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/871075-red-dead-redemption-2-general-chat/page-642?do=findComment&comment=1069865570

 

From a reddit post that apparently appeared before announcement.

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