Players are voting for you to be removed from the session. Improve your behavior or you will be kicked.

[Big Molio]

Well believe it or not there are people who are that stupid. Mostly members of the ign crew.

I enjoy ambushing convoys. I try to get in front of them on the highway or something and hide off to the side in the bushes and in ghost whilst in the tank or the APC ready for them coming by. They usually hammer me for it afterwards if I don't get away mind.

[We Are Ninja]

LOL no need to define the word public, I know what it means. People do all kinds of glitches on GTA, money dupes, clothing ect and I do a public lobby glitch and I don't feel bad about it. I know people outside my crew/friends can join and if they do I just vote to kick them. I went through the trouble of creating the solo session...

*Public session

 

You went through the trouble of creating a public session, then abusing an in-game feature to arbitrarily bar all unfamiliar players from said public session. There's a substantial difference. You create an actual solo session from the Online menu in SP mode.

 

 

Also R doesn't have me covered. You cant do any business stuff such as resupply/ selling, sourcing in crew only invite lobbies, I thought everyone knew that.

I'm acutely aware, actually. I said if you wanted to play with your friends exclusively, then R* had you covered. I never said a word about doing CEO business with your friends exclusively. I think that everyone understands that if you wish to take part in public lobby activities, you have to join a public lobby. If that weren't the case, this thread (and the other 100 threads just like it) wouldn't exist.

[TankGirl]

 

LOL no need to define the word public, I know what it means. People do all kinds of glitches on GTA, money dupes, clothing ect and I do a public lobby glitch and I don't feel bad about it. I know people outside my crew/friends can join and if they do I just vote to kick them. I went through the trouble of creating the solo session...

*Public session

 

You went through the trouble of creating a public session, then abusing an in-game feature to arbitrarily bar all unfamiliar players from said public session. There's a substantial difference. You create an actual solo session from the Online menu in SP mode.

 

Also R doesn't have me covered. You cant do any business stuff such as resupply/ selling, sourcing in crew only invite lobbies, I thought everyone knew that.

I'm acutely aware, actually. I said if you wanted to play with your friends exclusively, then R* had you covered. I never said a word about doing CEO business with your friends exclusively. I think that everyone understands that if you wish to take part in public lobby activities, you have to join a public lobby. If that weren't the case, this thread (and the other 100 threads just like it) wouldn't exist.

 

 

Of course I am going through the trouble of glitching a solo public so me and friends can do work we cant do in a private session, I mean why else would I do it? So we can all ride the Ferris Wheel on the pier? We like to sell some stuff take a break, do more work ect. Look if everyone is done doing what they need to do work wise then I don't care who joins the session. If I am starting up a crew event or something then of course I make a crew session only.

 

Also you can correct it to say public all you want. The fact is it is called making a solo public session, a session that you create via a glitch that you load into without anyone else in it, its really not hard to understand. I'm not trying to deny its a public session. Lets not get all nit picky about word use.

 

I'm abusing a feature? So be it. Voting to kick someone here and there is the least of the abuse that happens in this game, I'm not about to lose sleep over it.

Edited September 20, 2017 by TankGirl

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

I enjoy ambushing convoys. I try to get in front of them on the highway or something and hide off to the side in the bushes and in ghost whilst in the tank or the APC ready for them coming by. They usually hammer me for it afterwards if I don't get away mind.

...and this is why people kick so indiscriminately.

 

Literally anyone with any of the OP vehicles that plague the game and Ghost Org can (and will most of the time) destroy others players sales with such ease.

 

No ammount of planning or backing up can do anything against someone decided enough to ruin your day.

 

Seriously, it's 2017, I can't believe it either, Take Two is greedier than ever, the game's updates only focus in new shiny toys to f*ck other players and people keep destroying cargo for the salt or whatever.

 

If your kind are as smart as they claim, you should combat other grieferd and trolls instead of other players trying to make ends meet. You're not smart, cunning, a badass or whatever, totally the opposite, you're being played like a damn fiddle by R* and Take Two's prerrogative.

[We Are Ninja]

Of course I am going through the trouble of glitching a solo public so me and friends can do work we cant do in a private session, I mean why else would I do it? So we can all ride the Ferris Wheel on the pier? We like to sell some stuff take a break, do more work ect. Look if everyone is done doing what they need to do work wise then I don't care who joins the session. If I am starting up a crew event or something then of course I make a crew session only.

 

Also you can correct it to say public all you want. The fact is it is called making a solo public session, a session that you create via a glitch that you load into without anyone else in it, its really not hard to understand. I'm not trying to deny its a public session. Lets not get all nit picky about word use.

 

I'm abusing a feature? So be it. Voting to kick someone here and there is the least of the abuse that happens in this game, I'm not about to lose sleep over it.

Eh. Different strokes. If I wind up in an empty public session, then cool. If it stays empty, then also cool. If it fills up, it just fills up. That's cool too. I'm simply not self-entitled enough to believe that an entire, public, 30-person lobby should belong to me and a couple of friends exclusively.

Edited September 20, 2017 by We Are Ninja

[Big Molio]

If your kind are as smart as they claim, you should combat other grieferd and trolls instead of other players trying to make ends meet.

I do all that as well. Occasionally I even help people. I don't have any single agenda.

 

You're not smart, cunning, a badass or whatever, totally the opposite, you're being played like a damn fiddle by R* and Take Two's prerrogative.

Everybody is in the same boat fella, because they throw you grinders a bone and you'll happily slave away at the fetch and carry, prolonging their game's life for them. No demographic has the "Us against the system" moral high ground on this one. Edited September 20, 2017 by Big Molio

[Black-Dragon96]

If you try to kick me without provocation while I'm standing in the discount store in Paleto Bay, then you literally ARE hostile from the start, and I feel zero remorse for meeting your hostility with some wholly justified hostility of my own.

 

You say that players should graciously accept getting kicked. I say that players that arbitrarily boot players should graciously accept getting their asses kicked.

Like I already said, do what you gotta do. If attacking the guys who are trying to kick you makes you feel better, go ahead but I know for a fact that they wont stop kicking people if you attack them. If anything, they will kick the next guy even faster. They feel they did the right thing because you turned out to be hostile just like they feared. Thats how human psychology works Im afraid.

 

So you preemptively retaliate against players for things that they haven't done, but you maintain that they shouldn't retaliate against you for things that you HAVE done?

I personally do not kick other players but I understand why people do it. They fear that the guy who joins turns out to be a hostile player and attacks their sale and that maybe more people join the session.

Is it the optimal way? No, its far from optimal. But these guys are not the one to blame im afraid. The one to blame is Rockstar with their stupid public lobby only restriction and their sh*tty: "Hey you, go blow up dat dude doing a sale for a pocketchange of 2k that you cant even buy a pair of glasses for. KTHXBYE." message.

[We Are Ninja]

Like I already said, do what you gotta do. If attacking the guys who are trying to kick you makes you feel better, go ahead but I know for a fact that they wont stop kicking people if you attack them. If anything, they will kick the next guy even faster. They feel they did the right thing because you turned out to be hostile just like they feared. Thats how human psychology works Im afraid.

So, by your logic, if people passively accept getting booted out of a session without provocation, the kickers will stop. I'd reason that they'd do it even more since it's so easy each time they do it. In reality, they won't stop kicking people if I attack them, and they won't stop kicking people if I don't attack them. After all, they kicked me despite the fact that I had done nothing more than spawn in their lobby. Regardless of what I do, they're going to kick the next guy that happens to get dropped into the lobby after me. I don't know that you understand human psychology as well as you think you do...

 

That said, if every time they attempt to kick some undeserving player they wind up holed up in their office with a steadily-growing lobby outside, maybe they'll learn to stop kicking undeserving people.

 

 

I personally do not kick other players but I understand why people do it. They fear that the guy who joins turns out to be a hostile player and attacks their sale and that maybe more people join the session.

Is it the optimal way? No, its far from optimal. But these guys are not the one to blame im afraid. The one to blame is Rockstar with their stupid public lobby only restriction and their sh*tty: "Hey you, go blow up dat dude doing a sale for a pocketchange of 2k that you cant even buy a pair of glasses for. KTHXBYE." message.

Eh. I agree with the apprehension, but I disagree with the way you and yours choose to deal with your fears.

Edited September 20, 2017 by We Are Ninja

[Xiled]

Players won't stop kicking players and the more forced freemode public only bs they keep doing, the more players will kick others out. Remove the public only bs restriction and players can play in there private sessions and won't have to feel inclined to kick others out. Wishing that players won't kick you isn't going to make it go away. They just don't trust players who join there sessions. Especially how you kick someone and the person you kicked than decides to go out of there way to mess with you. Or when they get kicked they start up a freemode event to mess with the players some more. If you join a small session your probably going to be kicked. You could simply leave and find a new session. If griefers tell us to find new sessions they can to.

 

There was also a topic a few months ago where a lot of players said they shoot players who drive past them because they don't trust the players driving. And thats a smaller thing compared to kicking you for joining them because they don't trust that you won't go after them

Edited September 20, 2017 by Xiled

[Black-Dragon96]

So, by your logic, if people passively accept getting booted out of a session without provocation, the kickers will stop.

In the current state of the game I have my doubts that this is the case. The only thing I can see that will stop or atleast limit it is Rockstar allowing people to do their sales in actuall private lobbys because this would remove the reason for the kicking.

 

That said, if every time they attempt to kick some undeserving player they wind up holed up in their office with a steadily-growing lobby, maybe they'll learn to stop kicking undeserving people.

I doubt that. Like I said these people use the kick option because they think you are a threat. If you attack them they will feel proven. Not even for one second they will think that you attacked them because they kicked you. They will think that you attacked them because you are a cargo destroying tryhard.

I honestly understand your reaction but it wont make the whole issue better. If anything it will make it worse.

 

 

I personally do not kick other players but I understand why people do it. They fear that the guy who joins turns out to be a hostile player and attacks their sale and that maybe more people join the session.

Is it the optimal way? No, its far from optimal. But these guys are not the one to blame im afraid. The one to blame is Rockstar with their stupid public lobby only restriction and their sh*tty: "Hey you, go blow up dat dude doing a sale for a pocketchange of 2k that you cant even buy a pair of glasses for. KTHXBYE." message.

Eh. I agree with the apprehension, but I disagree with the way you and your choose to deal with you fears.

Like I said, I dont kick, my crew does not kick (unless its a scriptkid). If Im alone i simply open my taskmanager and lagg myself to a new solo public lobby, if Im with my crew we simply let them join and if someone starts stupid sh*t he is toast.

I have been voted to be kicked a few times. Sure its annoying I understand that, even more if it happens on a regular basis, but like I said I also understand the guys who a kicking and thats why I simply move on and leave myself.

I understand the reasons of both sides and I know for a fact that neither side can do anything about it. Nothing any player can do will change anything, the only one with the power to change it is Rockstar.

Edited September 20, 2017 by Black-Dragon96

[Kushology]

 

Just saying, if you're tech savvy.

 

Look into rooting an android phone and get NetCut. I don't use glitches, I just load up an app on my phone and limit my PS4's connection.

 

Most people are aware that I use a lag switch and can get empty lobbies with ease.

 

 

I'd also like to make it clear that I never use it against people when in PvP..although I've been tempted to use it against people that do... :x

 

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

Sadly, instead of doing the most logical solution, which is letting players do cargo/supply runs and sales in Invite/Crew lobbies, R* will probably remove the Kick function and call it a day. f*cking with both players who abuse it and those who use it legitimately to kick script kiddies.

 

I mean, I can't still bet $10k ever since that "At the races" glitch got patched so long ago.

[TankGirl]

 

Of course I am going through the trouble of glitching a solo public so me and friends can do work we cant do in a private session, I mean why else would I do it? So we can all ride the Ferris Wheel on the pier? We like to sell some stuff take a break, do more work ect. Look if everyone is done doing what they need to do work wise then I don't care who joins the session. If I am starting up a crew event or something then of course I make a crew session only. Also you can correct it to say public all you want. The fact is it is called making a solo public session, a session that you create via a glitch that you load into without anyone else in it, its really not hard to understand. I'm not trying to deny its a public session. Lets not get all nit picky about word use. I'm abusing a feature? So be it. Voting to kick someone here and there is the least of the abuse that happens in this game, I'm not about to lose sleep over it.

Eh. Different strokes. If I wind up in an empty public session, then cool. If it stays empty, then also cool. If it fills up, it just fills up. That's cool too. I'm simply not self-entitled enough to believe that an entire, public, 30-person lobby should belong to me and a couple of friends exclusively.

Please don't act like the empty lobby I made is the only lobby for players to get into, k? Its not like I'm hogging up the only public lobby on gtao ffs. I do it for my crew and friends if they ask, if that makes me entitled then so be it.

Edited September 20, 2017 by TankGirl

[We Are Ninja]

...Like I said these people use the kick option because they think you are a threat. If you attack them they will feel proven. Not even for one second they will think that you attacked them because they kicked you. They will think that you attacked them because you are a cargo destroying tryhard.

 

I honestly understand your reaction but it wont make the whole issue better. If anything it will make it worse.

Their reaction (or initial action) to my presence made it worse. Their actions are the reason that the situation is a situation in the first place. You can't admonish someone for responding to an aggressor. That's like me smacking you then telling you not o hit me back because it will only make the situation worse. That's completely ludicrous.

 

That said, I'll make it a point to be clear about what's about to transpire. I'll just message them before I kickstart the apocalypse...

 

"I just want you to know that initially, I meant you and your cohorts no harm. I was literally going to do my thing in peace. I want you to understand that anything and everything that happens for the next twenty to thirty minutes is a direct result your preemptive cowardice and your disgusting sense of entitlement. Thanks to you, we'll both have to find another lobby by the time I'm done. See you soon."

Edited September 21, 2017 by We Are Ninja

[Big Molio]

Sadly, instead of doing the most logical solution, which is letting players do cargo/supply runs and sales in Invite/Crew lobbies, R* will probably remove the Kick function and call it a day. f*cking with both players who abuse it and those who use it legitimately to kick script kiddies.

They should disable the kick feature and disable sales in empty / crew only lobbies.

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

 

Sadly, instead of doing the most logical solution, which is letting players do cargo/supply runs and sales in Invite/Crew lobbies, R* will probably remove the Kick function and call it a day. f*cking with both players who abuse it and those who use it legitimately to kick script kiddies.

They should disable the kick feature and disable sales in empty / crew only lobbies.

They should also disable your R*SC account too.

 

Why you can't understand that some people don't like PvP, or at least they don't like it in the broken state that it is right now?

[HamwithCheese]

 

Sadly, instead of doing the most logical solution, which is letting players do cargo/supply runs and sales in Invite/Crew lobbies, R* will probably remove the Kick function and call it a day. f*cking with both players who abuse it and those who use it legitimately to kick script kiddies.

They should disable the kick feature and disable sales in empty / crew only lobbies.

Sometimes I think you say things to annoy people.

[Smooth Longsack]

Players were voting to kick me today... and we came to an amicable resolution and, by golly, they retracted their votes! I was shocked. Several players were amazed and stated that was there first time seeing such a thing in Los Santos. Such a funny game.

[Big Molio]

They should also disable your R*SC account too.

Not sure how that would improve the game tbh

[Black-Dragon96]

 

...Like I said these people use the kick option because they think you are a threat. If you attack them they will feel proven. Not even for one second they will think that you attacked them because they kicked you. They will think that you attacked them because you are a cargo destroying tryhard.

 

I honestly understand your reaction but it wont make the whole issue better. If anything it will make it worse.

I see. I'll just message them before I kickstart the apocalypse...

 

"I just want you to know that initially, I meant you and your cohorts no harm. I was literally going to do my thing in peace. I want you to understand that anything and everything that happens for the next twenty to thirty minutes is a direct result your preemptive cowardice and your disgusting sense of entitlement. Thanks to you, we'll both have to find another lobby by the time I'm done. See you soon."

Well i doubt it will change something, but go ahead.

[Guest]

No ammount of planning or backing up can do anything against someone decided enough to ruin your day.

Sure, however playing smart will reduce the odds of that someone being in the session to begin with. Yes there's a chance they may join while you're doing your 5 minute sale however by the time they join, check the session and get whatever toy they need you're almost done, by the time they get to you, you are done. Then you deal with it however suits you best - find new session, ignore the player, attack the player. All three are valid choices.

 

You know I'm always going to say it's perfectly possible to sell in public, you have seen the videos, you have heard the statements yet you tend to feel you can completely ignore them. I guess it must be because you rarely play in public, as you have mentioned numerous times, which pretty much makes your opinion invalid since there's little to nothing to back it up.

 

Rather than complain about what you think it is like, perhaps you should actually check what it's like from time to time.

 

 

Seriously, it's 2017, I can't believe it either, Take Two is greedier than ever, the game's updates only focus in new shiny toys to f*ck other players and people keep destroying cargo for the salt or whatever.

And you still play why? Oh, I remember because you want it to get better or something along those lines... knowing full well Take Twos intentions.

 

 

If your kind are as smart as they claim, you should combat other grieferd and trolls instead of other players trying to make ends meet. You're not smart, cunning, a badass or whatever, totally the opposite, you're being played like a damn fiddle by R* and Take Two's prerrogative.

If I'm being played let it continue. I'm having a blast. You assume "our kind" don't attack other greifers and trolls, that's very misguided.

[am krooked]

Learn to make locked public lobbies. Only way to join is through friends or invites.

[Femme Fatale]

I don't care, lol. If they can't handle my personality, then I prefer getting kicked out instead of being surrounded by a bunch of dudes who are pussies.

[Xiled]

 

They should also disable your R*SC account too.

Not sure how that would improve the game tbh

 

Your in the minority thinking that wouldn't help the game.

[Prince_Polaris]

Technically, creating a solo public lobby makes you the host of it... so therefore, by the powers of their sh*tty Peer-to-Peer connection, get out of my damn lobby.

 

You wanna be a little bitch and call me entitled? Well, I'll have the game's main process frozen before your Hydra icon is even on my minimap. And if you activate off the radar or ghost org, thanks for the signal to leave!

 

It's super satisfying lagging myself out, even if I'm not paying attention, the moment a rocket hits me I'm putting it all on pause! Gee, if only this game had an option to play the game with friends, like... all the other games I own. Don't even try to tell me about invite only lobbies, I want to play the game, not the game with most new content and missions blocked.

[Skeve613]

Nah. I'm hardly Superman. But egregiously self-entitled players arbitrarily abusing an in-game feature at the expense of all other players, and the belief that one person's wants and desires supersede those of EVERYONE ELSE, will definitely cause me to shed my usual mild-mannered demeanor and "live and let live" attitude.

 

 

As well as the debate over non-public public lobbies, this also basically describes all the unbalanced mechanics that cause people to seek out these private public sessions in the first place.

 

People in public lobbies abusing the ever-living daylights out of this game's many bad gameplay features happens precisely because they are self-entitled and place their own enjoyment above that of others. The whole game is basically designed to work off that, and the slew of broken and unbalanced features merely exacerbate it.

 

So, even while I only rarely find myself doing it, as long as this game remains full of self-entitled assholes and abuse-friendly features that let these people have a disproportionate impact on the game, I won't judge anyone for spamming the kick feature to keep a public session to themselves so they can avoid that crap and enjoy the game how they wish to.

[Guest]

Surely it's best all round to just lag out again though?

 

I know how quick and easy it is to lag out, I used to do it, it takes 5 seconds to do. It's quicker than voting to kick, it saves you time, it saves other players BS points, loading times etc.

 

If you want "your" lobby so badly, lag out again and make it yours again.

 

Voting to kick when the player has done nothing to you is as much of a dick move as blowing up cargo or holding off a player who is attempting to attend their business being raided. Any dick move will generally result in retaliation. It's common knowledge that you cannot be kicked while doing an activity. Vote for a player to be kicked and expect a job to start up and retaliation to happen.

[EkaSwede]

Technically, creating a solo public lobby makes you the host of it... so therefore, by the powers of their sh*tty Peer-to-Peer connection, get out of my damn lobby.

 

You wanna be a little bitch and call me entitled? Well, I'll have the game's main process frozen before your Hydra icon is even on my minimap. And if you activate off the radar or ghost org, thanks for the signal to leave!

 

It's super satisfying lagging myself out, even if I'm not paying attention, the moment a rocket hits me I'm putting it all on pause! Gee, if only this game had an option to play the game with friends, like... all the other games I own. Don't even try to tell me about invite only lobbies, I want to play the game, not the game with most new content and missions blocked.

I generally prefer solo public not just because of solitude, but also that since I'm technically the host of it, I don't have to worry about some crazy lag causing crazy traffic and other things that are caused by someone with an internet powered by a hamster wheel.

 

Sometime I don't have to freeze the game's process. My com's al ittle old, but can handle gtao just fine, but if I "accidentally" put the game in wondowed mode either by alt-enter or pressing the CAPS lock key (Which seems to cause this too. It's an anoying model I've got) I'll be stuck for about 6-12 seconds and VOILA! Everyone left.

 

And as for R* disabling sales in solo public I'm just going to have to quote the US President on this one:

 

"Well I'll tell you what, it'll never happen!"

[Black-Dragon96]

Surely it's best all round to just lag out again though?

 

I know how quick and easy it is to lag out, I used to do it, it takes 5 seconds to do. It's quicker than voting to kick, it saves you time, it saves other players BS points, loading times etc.

 

If you want "your" lobby so badly, lag out again and make it yours again.

 

Well if you are alone or with just one or two buddys thats easily doable. However, if it is a lobby with 10+ crewmembers its much easier to simply kick the oposing players than relocating the whole 10+ people.

[Guest]

 

Surely it's best all round to just lag out again though?

 

I know how quick and easy it is to lag out, I used to do it, it takes 5 seconds to do. It's quicker than voting to kick, it saves you time, it saves other players BS points, loading times etc.

 

If you want "your" lobby so badly, lag out again and make it yours again.

Well if you are alone or with just one or two buddys thats easily doable. However, if it is a lobby with 10+ crewmembers its much easier to simply kick the oposing players than relocating the whole 10+ people.

 

Ah so the easier option is the way to go then? I'll remember that next time a low rank player is AFK and I want to pad out my KD... What a piss poor excuse!

 

In a session with that many crew members a single player joining should not pose an issue, certainly not enough of an issue that 10+ crew members couldn't handle without giving the player bad sport points and forcing them to load a session again. Are you that intimidated by a lone player? God help you if a crew ever joined, with a minimum of >50% of players voting to kick for it to work and the ways to extend the time in the session, with his friends who you wouldn't be able to kick for a while after, yeah - let me know how that goes for you...

 

It's on YOU to change sessions if you find yourself in one which you can't manage, not the players who, unwillingly ended up there.

Edited September 21, 2017 by Guest