Players are voting for you to be removed from the session. Improve your behavior or you will be kicked.

[Fatsanchez]

happened to me once some time ago.

I am a really peaceful player who will only attack if provoked (or if you have a bounty on you obviously). But one thing GTA has taught me is to

. For the good or for the worse.

Anyway for the discussion regarding crew sessions, I guess its one thing when the crew is already in that session and someone pops up, and then another completely different is when you are in a session with few people and then some crew randomly decides that the session belongs to them (the case of my fist video for that matter).

As for the first case, there will always be newbies, kids and foreign people who doesn't fully understand this unwritten law of crew sessions. So I guess that is a problem we'll always have, unless of corse R* decides to allow us to do these jobs on invite only, which I guess is unlikely.

[Big Molio]

happened to me once some time ago.

I am a really peaceful player who will only attack if provoked (or if you have a bounty on you obviously). But one thing GTA has taught me is to

. For the good or for the worse.

 

Anyway for the discussion regarding crew sessions, I guess its one thing when the crew is already in that session and someone pops up, and then another completely different is when you are in a session with few people and then some crew randomly decides that the session belongs to them (the case of my fist video for that matter).

As for the first case, there will always be newbies, kids and foreign people who doesn't fully understand this unwritten law of crew sessions. So I guess that is a problem we'll always have, unless of corse R* decides to allow us to do these jobs on invite only, which I guess is unlikely.

 

No unwritten law as far as I am concerned. Lobbies are public. Crews can vote if they want, but I'll have my 30 minutes if they do.

[Skeve613]

The issue is once one person joins, more follow. I use to say, well they seem ok I will let them stay then one more would join then 4 will join, killing will start and its out of control.

 

/\ This. As more random players join, the chance of more people joining increases, so unfortunately the best way to keep a public session is to instantly kick anyone who joins before that can happen.

 

It's especially problematic if it's someone from one of those huge open crews full of people you usually really don't want to play with, like IGN or MP3, where crew/friends randomly joining becomes a big problem.

[We Are Ninja]

 

^Because its kinda hard to relocate a lobby of 20+ players into a new lobby evertime some dude joins the session.

My crew and I had to do it for a few times because we had some moles from a scriptkid crew in our ranks who basicly made their scriptkid buddys follow us around.

We do not kick players joining our lobbys but i can see why people do it and on the ocasion it happens to me i simply take the hint and leave myself.

Wow, I missed this one...

 

You feel the need to force out a single player when playing in a lobby of 20+ players? You really cannot handle a lone player when you have at least 19 others to back you up should they turn out to be hostile?

 

If you have a lobby of 20+ players you're pretty much safe. There's absolutely no reason to have to kick. If the lone player is a troll, they get dealt with easily by 20+ players. If not, they will more than likely keep themselves to themselves or leave by themselves.

 

Having to relocate a lobby of 20+ friends is not the issue. You should never have to relocate with that many players.

 

He beat me to it. What kind of scrubs do you run with if a lobby full of y'all can't deal with one player? Is it everybody's first day? Are y'all robbing liquor stores together? 20+ people working together in one lobby?

 

*INB4: "He'll bring other randos in with him if we don't kick him"...*

 

Even if he brought 5 trolls with him, you've STILL got the numbers to make Los Santos hell on earth for them. If I had twenty friends working together in one session, I'd wait giddily for some troll to to try us. I wait giddily for a troll to try me when I'm alone too, honestly. Sorry, but that's probably the worst argument in this entire thread... o.O

 

 

 

The issue is once one person joins, more follow. I use to say, well they seem ok I will let them stay then one more would join then 4 will join, killing will start and its out of control.

/\ This. As more random players join, the chance of more people joining increases, so unfortunately the best way to keep a public session is to instantly kick anyone who joins before that can happen.

 

It's especially problematic if it's someone from one of those huge open crews full of people you usually really don't want to play with, like IGN or MP3, where crew/friends randomly joining becomes a big problem.

 

That's the thing, though. It's not your lobby to "keep". It's a public lobby. Merriam Webster defines public as: "accessible to or shared by all members of the community". That said, when you play a public lobby, it's very likely that you'll encounter players outside of your circle. They might be cool, or they might not be. Either way, it's a public lobby. If you want to play with your friends only, R*'s got you. There are Invite-Only and Crew lobbies.

Edited September 20, 2017 by We Are Ninja

[Guest]

So because YOU don't want to be in the session anymore, in case some random troll enters, it's the other players who have to leave?

 

So I can kick people out of sessions purely because I want to be in public sessions but want to maintain my K/D and don't want any risk of it dropping? It all seems very petty.

 

It's like kicking someone from the other side in an LTS because they wiped the entire team out fairly. Or kicking a player who is winning a race by a mile just because you don't want your crew to lose.

[We Are Ninja]

I try to refrain from throwing the E[ntitlement] word around nowadays, but the belief that you're somehow entitled to your very own "public" lobby is probably the GTA epitome of the word...

Edited September 20, 2017 by We Are Ninja

[Black-Dragon96]

 

Wow, I missed this one...

 

You feel the need to force out a single player when playing in a lobby of 20+ players? You really cannot handle a lone player when you have at least 19 others to back you up should they turn out to be hostile?

 

If you have a lobby of 20+ players you're pretty much safe. There's absolutely no reason to have to kick. If the lone player is a troll, they get dealt with easily by 20+ players. If not, they will more than likely keep themselves to themselves or leave by themselves.

 

Having to relocate a lobby of 20+ friends is not the issue. You should never have to relocate with that many players.

We found out in the past that you have a little reading problem so I quote myself again:

We do not kick players joining our lobbys but i can see why people do it and on the ocasion it happens to me i simply take the hint and leave myself.

If you read it in full context you will see that the we means, my crew and I.

The only people we kick are scriptkids because there is no other way to deal with them. The regular person who starts sh*t with us has a few jets and several rifles up his a$$ in a matter of seconds because we are so many that there are not enough ceo/biker slots for all of us in a session so there are always some people who can deal with them.

However, it takes just one guy to f*ck everything up, one OTR/ghost org using hydra that sneaks through our defenses. Stuff like this happens very very rarely to us since we are well organized, but other less organized crew may have that happen more often to them. Simply kicking the oposing player/s is also a way faster than what my crew and I are doing so I can see why they are doing it.

 

Like many on here have already said: "If you get the message that you are voted to be kicked, simply take the hint and leave yourself.".

[SilverRST]

Give them the D.

[We Are Ninja]

Like many on here have already said: "If you get the message that you are voted to be kicked, simply take the hint and leave yourself.".

Like many on here have already said: "If you get the message that you are voted to be kicked, start up CEO work, then wreak havoc, pausing only to invite every player on your Friends List, until you're actually kicked. Go out with a bang and both middle fingers in the air, baby. You intend to ruin my session (by ejecting me from it), I'm going to return the favor."

[SHADOW OPS]

 

Like many on here have already said: "If you get the message that you are voted to be kicked, simply take the hint and leave yourself.".

Like many on here have already said: "If you get the message that you are voted to be kicked, start up CEO work, then wreak havoc, pausing only to invite every player on your Friends List, until you're actually kicked. Go out with a bang and both middle fingers in the air, baby. You intend to ruin my session (by ejecting me from it), I'm going to return the favor."

I don't want to speak for you but I read this as...don't tug on supermans cape.

[Fatsanchez]

 

happened to me once some time ago.

I am a really peaceful player who will only attack if provoked (or if you have a bounty on you obviously). But one thing GTA has taught me is to

. For the good or for the worse.

 

Anyway for the discussion regarding crew sessions, I guess its one thing when the crew is already in that session and someone pops up, and then another completely different is when you are in a session with few people and then some crew randomly decides that the session belongs to them (the case of my fist video for that matter).

As for the first case, there will always be newbies, kids and foreign people who doesn't fully understand this unwritten law of crew sessions. So I guess that is a problem we'll always have, unless of corse R* decides to allow us to do these jobs on invite only, which I guess is unlikely.

No unwritten law as far as I am concerned. Lobbies are public. Crews can vote if they want, but I'll have my 30 minutes if they do.

Yes I agree, what I meant is that I can respect crew sessions if I eventually join one, specially if some communication and politeness is involved. Otherwise I'll fight fire with fire

[Black-Dragon96]

 

Like many on here have already said: "If you get the message that you are voted to be kicked, simply take the hint and leave yourself.".

Like many on here have already said: "If you get the message that you are voted to be kicked, start up CEO work, then wreak havoc, pausing only to invite every player on your Friends List, until you're actually kicked. Go out with a bang and both middle fingers in the air, baby. You intend to ruin my session (by ejecting me from it), I'm going to return the favor."

Well thats exactly the reason why so many people kick on sight. You are basicly making the whole thing worse yourself. But hey, do what you gotta do, Im not the one complaining about getting kicked.

[We Are Ninja]

 

 

Like many on here have already said: "If you get the message that you are voted to be kicked, simply take the hint and leave yourself.".

Like many on here have already said: "If you get the message that you are voted to be kicked, start up CEO work, then wreak havoc, pausing only to invite every player on your Friends List, until you're actually kicked. Go out with a bang, and both middle fingers in the air, baby. You intend to ruin my session (by ejecting me from it), I'm going to return the favor."

 

I don't want to speak for you but I read this as...don't tug on supermans cape.

 

Nah. I'm hardly Superman. But egregiously self-entitled players arbitrarily abusing an in-game feature at the expense of all other players, and the belief that one person's wants and desires supersede those of EVERYONE ELSE, will definitely cause me to shed my usual mild-mannered demeanor and "live and let live" attitude.

Edited September 20, 2017 by We Are Ninja

[jwdrinkwaterjr]

This has only happened to me once. Got into a session with a couple from the same crew. Instantly got the kick message. I sent the two other players a "Peace?" text. Got back an "you leave us be and we leave you be"

The three of us had the lobby to ourselves for hours. I never saw either of them. I don't know what they were doing, but I ran I/E sales and VIP jobs and made gobs of $$$.

 

Someone earlier said pay attention and feel out your session. This is so true. When I spawn in first thing I check the lobby list. Any IGN or MP3 and I'm gone. If there's only a couple orgs and a bunch of randos I'm gone. If all you can hear is explosions, or if there's a single Oppressor in session, that's right, I'm gone. I also try to sell mostly at night, paint all cars black, and run with no headlights.

 

I think I'd be really pissed if I got kicked simply for minding my own business. Those two other players cut themselves a break yesterday. If they had continued with that track I would have invited my kids troll friends with their Hydras and rocket bikes and watched the carnage from the top of Maze Bank.

[We Are Ninja]

 

 

Like many on here have already said: "If you get the message that you are voted to be kicked, simply take the hint and leave yourself.".

Like many on here have already said: "If you get the message that you are voted to be kicked, start up CEO work, then wreak havoc, pausing only to invite every player on your Friends List, until you're actually kicked. Go out with a bang and both middle fingers in the air, baby. You intend to ruin my session (by ejecting me from it), I'm going to return the favor."

 

Well thats exactly the reason why so many people kick on sight. You are basicly making the whole thing worse yourself. But hey, do what you gotta do, Im not the one complaining about getting kicked.

 

LOL. So players are supposed to passively bow to your whims?

 

"My apologies, your Lordship. Please do with me as you wish. I take no issue with you arbitrarily terminating my tenure within your esteemed lobby. It pleases me to be at your mercy. I am completely at fault for having the audacity to simply exist within your session."

 

 

Clearly, it's a vicious circle. You're the reason that I'm the reason that people like you kick on sight. If people like you left people like me alone, you would never, ever have to deal with people like me.

Edited September 20, 2017 by We Are Ninja

[Ker Juice]

Start haulage, look for person(s) doing delivery work, because it will be them, and then go and grief them mercilessly.

How long does Haulage last for? Wouldn't it be better to use something else (Fully Loaded?) because some noob could potentially steal & deliver the trailer and end your time prematurely?

Edited September 20, 2017 by Ker Juice

[Guest]

 

 

Like many on here have already said: "If you get the message that you are voted to be kicked, simply take the hint and leave yourself.".

Like many on here have already said: "If you get the message that you are voted to be kicked, start up CEO work, then wreak havoc, pausing only to invite every player on your Friends List, until you're actually kicked. Go out with a bang and both middle fingers in the air, baby. You intend to ruin my session (by ejecting me from it), I'm going to return the favor."

 

Well thats exactly the reason why so many people kick on sight. You are basicly making the whole thing worse yourself. But hey, do what you gotta do, Im not the one complaining about getting kicked.

 

How is anyone but those voting to kick a player making anything worse?

 

Being voted to be kicked and being a dick after isn't making it worse for me, it's an invitation to be a dick and the justification that I sometimes need to go f*ck sh*t up so much that people will learn not to vote kick for no reason. Very few will attack in a crew controlled session. No troll is that stupid to think they can go toe to toe with 20+ friends.

 

Inviting my whole friends list (thanks for the tip, I hadn't thought of that one) to join in, grabbing whatever OP toy I can and sending out muggers, merryweather and doing pretty much every dick trick in the book because I received a vote for absolutely nothing makes it no worse for me, in fact, it sometimes adds to the enjoyment. How much sh*t can be f*cked up in the 30 minutes I have until this VIP work ends?

 

Sure fire way to lose a crew controlled session - vote someone to be kicked.

[Big Molio]

How long does Haulage last for? Wouldn't it be better to use something else (Fully Loaded?) because some noob could potentially steal & deliver the trailer and end your time prematurely?

 

I think it is 30 minutes. Fully loaded might be better, I don't know.

[Mrnrfan182]

I usually get vote kicked when I take down the griefer. It's ironic really. Help out the lobby by taking to the sky and eliminating the problem only to be vote kicked by the actual, guilty party.

 

Also, if you start some kind of activity like "stand your ground" or anything club/ CEO related, that's an invite for others to PLAY with you. In a game like this, playing WITH someone in those scenarios actually means killing one another. I know, I know, how dare I attack your yacht during Piracy Prevention...I'm soooooo evil.

[Guest]

 

How long does Haulage last for? Wouldn't it be better to use something else (Fully Loaded?) because some noob could potentially steal & deliver the trailer and end your time prematurely?

I think it is 30 minutes. Fully loaded might be better, I don't know.

 

Fully Loaded is better. They can't make it finish earlier plus you get a nifty Ruiner 2k with unlimited rockets and buffed armour to play with

[Big Molio]

Also, if you start some kind of activity like "stand your ground" or anything club/ CEO related, that's an invite for others to PLAY with you. In a game like this, playing WITH someone in those scenarios actually means killing one another. I know, I know, how dare I attack your yacht during Piracy Prevention...I'm soooooo evil.

Yeah, happens a lot. I love to ghost org parachute down onto their yacht then hold them off with rockets to win the game. It drives crews mad and the abuse you get is epic lol

[Black-Dragon96]

Clearly, it's a vicious circle. You're the reason that I'm the reason that people like you kick on sight. If people like you left people like me alone, you would never, ever have to deal with people like me.

The players who kick other people do it so they can do their stuff in peace. They fear that they get their cargo destroyed because they made a bad experience. Well if you now hunt them for trying to kick you they will think that you were hostile from the start and that it was a good decision to kick you. Its a never ending cycle (just like the threads about it).

[MisFit-138]

Man, it hadn't even occurred to me that I'm getting bad sport points, that makes the whole thing even worse. I've been racking up bad sport points all week while sincerely avoiding conflict because of others paranoia and insecurities. I was trying not to validate their fears by attacking after vote kicks, but now its on, every. Single. Time. To help with some of your skewed views, vote kicking someone for no reason other than what "could" happen is basically "guilty until proven innocent", with no chance to prove anything. As far as taking a hint and leaving, I guess its the same as not "taking the hint" of a burning cross in your yard, because they shouldn't have to. Same reason "the jews" didnt take the National Socialists hints. Its a seriously garbage position to hold and its real world equivalent is dispicable anyway you slice it. From here on out, I'm goint to earn the bad sport points your forcing on me. Every time. If you're reading this, you should do the same. When you start recieving kicks, start fully loaded from youe ceo work menu and wreak havok for the next 30 mimutes.

Edited September 20, 2017 by MisFit-138

[We Are Ninja]

 

Clearly, it's a vicious circle. You're the reason that I'm the reason that people like you kick on sight. If people like you left people like me alone, you would never, ever have to deal with people like me.

...Well if you now hunt them for trying to kick you they will think that you were hostile from the start and that it was a good decision to kick you...

If you try to kick me without provocation while I'm standing in the discount store in Paleto Bay, then you literally ARE hostile from the start, and I feel zero remorse for meeting your hostility with some wholly justified hostility of my own.

 

You say that players should graciously accept getting kicked. I say that players that arbitrarily boot players should graciously accept getting their asses kicked.

Edited September 20, 2017 by We Are Ninja

[Black-Dragon96]

How is anyone but those voting to kick a player making anything worse?

Being voted to be kicked and being a dick after isn't making it worse for me, it's an invitation to be a dick and the justification that I sometimes need to go f*ck sh*t up so much that people will learn not to vote kick for no reason.

The only thing they will learn is that it was a good decision to kick you. They will think that you were hostile from the start. Instead of stoping the whole votekick thing, they will do it even more often and thats where you making it worse.

 

Very few will attack in a crew controlled session. No troll is that stupid to think they can go toe to toe with 20+ friends.

Well believe it or not there are people who are that stupid. Mostly members of the ign crew.

[We Are Ninja]

So you preemptively retaliate against players for things that they haven't done, but you maintain that they shouldn't retaliate against you for things that you HAVE done?

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

So I landed the other day in a session with four players in it. So I started to glitch my coke factory. Bought supplies and waited for them in passive mode.

 

Then two players left and there was a CEO, his associate (they weren't from the same crew even) and me.

 

Then I got the notification.

 

I would appreciated that they asked me if I was peaceful? Of course. Could I griefed them in relatation? Yeah, they were both low levels. Could have asked to let me finish with my business first? Actually, I could.

 

But anyway, I choose to leave the session instead, why disturb someone who only wants to grind peacefully?

 

I lost 15,000 for my supplies (the glitch didn't work because I changed sessions), but I don't mind really, that's chump change compared to whatever I could spend in ammo and time spend in ruining their grinding pointlessly.

[Big Molio]

...why disturb someone who only wants to grind peacefully?

They didn't exactly afford you the same courtesy.

[TankGirl]

 

 

 

^Because its kinda hard to relocate a lobby of 20+ players into a new lobby evertime some dude joins the session.

My crew and I had to do it for a few times because we had some moles from a scriptkid crew in our ranks who basicly made their scriptkid buddys follow us around.

We do not kick players joining our lobbys but i can see why people do it and on the ocasion it happens to me i simply take the hint and leave myself.

Wow, I missed this one...

 

You feel the need to force out a single player when playing in a lobby of 20+ players? You really cannot handle a lone player when you have at least 19 others to back you up should they turn out to be hostile?

 

If you have a lobby of 20+ players you're pretty much safe. There's absolutely no reason to have to kick. If the lone player is a troll, they get dealt with easily by 20+ players. If not, they will more than likely keep themselves to themselves or leave by themselves.

 

Having to relocate a lobby of 20+ friends is not the issue. You should never have to relocate with that many players.

 

He beat me to it. What kind of scrubs do you run with if a lobby full of y'all can't deal with one player? Is it everybody's first day? Are y'all robbing liquor stores together? 20+ people working together in one lobby?

 

*INB4: "He'll bring other randos in with him if we don't kick him"...*

 

Even if he brought 5 trolls with him, you've STILL got the numbers to make Los Santos hell on earth for them. If I had twenty friends working together in one session, I'd wait giddily for some troll to to try us. I wait giddily for a troll to try me when I'm alone too, honestly. Sorry, but that's probably the worst argument in this entire thread... o.O

 

 

 

 

The issue is once one person joins, more follow. I use to say, well they seem ok I will let them stay then one more would join then 4 will join, killing will start and its out of control.

/\ This. As more random players join, the chance of more people joining increases, so unfortunately the best way to keep a public session is to instantly kick anyone who joins before that can happen.

 

It's especially problematic if it's someone from one of those huge open crews full of people you usually really don't want to play with, like IGN or MP3, where crew/friends randomly joining becomes a big problem.

 

That's the thing, though. It's not your lobby to "keep". It's a public lobby. Merriam Webster defines public as: "accessible to or shared by all members of the community". That said, when you play a public lobby, it's very likely that you'll encounter players outside of your circle. They might be cool, or they might not be. Either way, it's a public lobby. If you want to play with your friends only, R*'s got you. There are Invite-Only and Crew lobbies.

 

 

LOL no need to define the word public, I know what it means. People do all kinds of glitches on GTA, money dupes, clothing ect and I do a public lobby glitch and I don't feel bad about it. I know people outside my crew/friends can join and if they do I just vote to kick them. I went through the trouble of creating the solo session and I will do what I want with it. I just own up to it, right up front. If someone wants to put up a fight about being vote kicked that cool too, its their right to. Im not going to ask people to leave because there is nothing polite about it, its just what I need to do to ensure my session stays a positive one. Also R doesn't have me covered. You cant do any business stuff such as resupply/ selling, sourcing in crew only invite lobbies, I thought everyone knew that.

 

I only do this every so often if I am helping really low levels make money or if I just want a break from PvP for abit. My crew usually ends up taking over public lobbies anyways just because there are so many of us, its not done on purpose. I mean we don't storm in invading public sessions that others are in like we are playing Risk ffs.

Edited September 20, 2017 by TankGirl

[TankGirl]

 

...why disturb someone who only wants to grind peacefully?

They didn't exactly afford you the same courtesy.

 

 

I agree with you. If someone gets vote kicked they have every right to start up a VIP mission and fight back.