Players are voting for you to be removed from the session. Improve your behavior or you will be kicked.

[Lonely-Martin]

 

 

I encourage patience and communication, they work for me. I don't expect anyone to agree, you and Demonic are most welcome to oppose that. No complaints there. He's shown to be trolling though, but others I speak with, I've no issues with.

Dude, Ninja pretty much said what I've been saying.

 

And as I've said many times now. I don't disagree it's a problem or something that should be addressed. Fairly though. I believe there's too many people that need to be kicked for the right reasons.

 

I mean trolling, because you clearly debunked players playstyles here, all the while doing pretty much the same. You profess to ignore my 'tripe', and BD (I think), and you even said to BD that you aggressively rejected his POV there purely because he did to you, while forgetting that you play similar at times, simply out of spite. (Using OP stuff for PvE things). You insult others and ask for none in return, though we're both guilty of getting a bit daft with this. I feel this came after the pettiness and was more deliberate than productive opposing/counter arguments.

 

(Again, I don't look to excuse my pettiness too, but I tried to apologise for that. And since, as I felt you were taking the piss, I slipped with me making another daft jab).

 

I agree with you on so many things here about GTA, that's why I was taken aback with this (businesses/public only) topic/s really. You show to play a very similar way to me. And we're both strong in our opinions so we clashed. But you just won't let it go now. I'm past all that. I was trying to put a positive spin on a sh*tty thing.

 

As I've said often, I agree for f*cks sake. Just I feel we (the players) should look to do more not to allow this poisonous gameplay to continue. Passive incomes, EWO's, passive abuses. glitches, cheats, seeking to go further than gaming for jollies, you name it. Too much to go into (and off topic really).

 

The game's going to sh*t, and we're allowing it by refusing to see more choice, freedom, creativity and working together as a way forward. We don't have to agree why something exists, but we could try to find a good alternative to present at least. This just being gone, has drawbacks. Staying too. So we should compromise. And you guys do profess it's online and interactive. The answers right there. So I pushed for folks to see it more.

 

Won't hurt. Peace out.

 

(Must dash, I just feel this keeps going the way it is, 5 years, I'll not be here - A GTA player, I mean. And I just don't want that, lol)

Edited March 15, 2018 by KWF1981

[Guest]

Dude, you're making things up again or have read something, misunderstood and gotten not only the wrong end of the stick but the wrong tree. I have never said that I aggressively opposed BD's claims because he did the same to me. I don't even think it was BD who made the claim you're thinking of, I'm pretty sure it was you.

 

Stick to what's actually been said. Double check it. You're often wildly incorrect when you are stating something I've said. You could cut this topic in half if you removed the posts where you (and BD) have completely misread or misunderstood something and I've had to attempt to explain how incredibly inaccurate it is.

[dragosani00]

 

I joined a session last night and got a message saying "sorry after going through much bs lately we ask you to leave or kick" my response was please don't kick me im just trying to sell my coke n bunker promise no problems. They let me stay they got on the mic and talked to me and we came to the agreement if anybody else joins outside of my friends to kick them, I thought that was pretty cool.

So you had to beg to stay in a public session.

 

This is why the game has gone down the tubes.

 

 

If I were given that 'ultimatum' as soon as I dropped into a session I'd be starting up a VIP job and calling for my Akula.

[Lonely-Martin]

Dude, you're making things up again or have read something, misunderstood and gotten not only the wrong end of the stick but the wrong tree. I have never said that I aggressively opposed BD's claims because he did the same to me. I don't even think it was BD who made the claim you're thinking of, I'm pretty sure it was you.

 

Stick to what's actually been said. Double check it. You're often wildly incorrect when you are stating something I've said. You could cut this topic in half if you removed the posts where you (and BD) have completely misread or misunderstood something and I've had to attempt to explain how incredibly inaccurate it is.

 

You deny saying you are ignoring our 'tripe', only then to react since?.

 

You called our PvE with OP toys as bullsh*t, aggressively so. As in, a lie. Again, your words dude. You then went on to say you do just this and even bought an OP vehicle purely for PvE.

 

(To argue this is pointless though, goes nowhere, and I really can't be arsed with one I feel is trolling me here).

[Guest]

 

Dude, you're making things up again or have read something, misunderstood and gotten not only the wrong end of the stick but the wrong tree. I have never said that I aggressively opposed BD's claims because he did the same to me. I don't even think it was BD who made the claim you're thinking of, I'm pretty sure it was you.

 

Stick to what's actually been said. Double check it. You're often wildly incorrect when you are stating something I've said. You could cut this topic in half if you removed the posts where you (and BD) have completely misread or misunderstood something and I've had to attempt to explain how incredibly inaccurate it is.

You deny saying you are ignoring our 'tripe', only then to react since?.

 

You called our PvE with OP toys as bullsh*t, aggressively so. As in, a lie. Again, your words dude. You then went on to say you do just this and even bought an OP vehicle purely for PvE.

 

(To argue this is pointless though, goes nowhere, and I really can't be arsed with one I feel is trolling me here).

 

When have I denied that I am reacting to your posts despite you being on my ignore list? That's not something that's been denied, why would you even suggest that? It's blatantly clear that I am clicking that "View it anyway" link right now. When and where have I ever denied this? Again, making things up.

 

I never called PvE with OP toys bullsh*t, check back and you will see what I was claiming as bullsh*t. (To save you checking it was that you want to earn money in game to buy these OP toys to do PvE with - that's very different to doing PvE with the OP toys). Yet another example of you misunderstanding or making claims that are incredibly incorrect.

 

Neither of the above was what I was stating that you had made up, misunderstood or gotten the wrong end of the stick. That was a separate issue which you conveniently have diverted away from by bringing up other issues which you have got ass about face.

 

If you have no intention of arguing or feel it's pointless why even respond? As I said earlier today, this topic would be half the size without your constant "misunderstanding" (I will presume it's genuinely misunderstood rather than a deliberate attempt to, somehow, attempt to discredit what I post since it is so incorrect). You're trolling yourself with your constant inaccuracies, immediate opposition to my posts only to do a 180 when someone else says the exact same thing.

 

Like I said, try checking what it is you are claiming before doing so. You have a habit of saying that I have stated things which I have not. I do not know if you genuinely believe I have stated those things or if you are purposely twisting what I have said to mean something else however, in every instance where I have called you up on your false claims I have been able to fully explain and justify that you are, in fact, extremely incorrect. This sh*t is getting boring now, I hate to think what the other people attempting to join in with this topic must think when you post some crap and I have to point out how you have misconstrued it so badly.

[We Are Ninja]

 

You acknowledge that it's "bad", but you refuse to condemn it. In fact, you seem to encourage it. That's so... odd.

I encourage patience and communication, they work for me...

Broooo. "Leave or be kicked" is not "communication" or "patience". It is a literal threat in the form of an ultimatum that will end with the same outcome regardless of which "option" the threatened party chooses. There's nothing benevolent about forcing a player to leave a lobby, whether you kick him, or you convince him to do it to himself.

[Lonely-Martin]

Can't do a 180 on something I said from the start is a poor remedy for a problem that shouldn't exist. Felt that then, still do. Because I haven't shown you, (a person who I felt/feel is a troll/taking the piss out of me) where I agree with you over what I disagreed with you on, doesn't mean I did a 180. I chose to see the positive in a poor situation there. No harm on trying to get other folk to see it can work. IMHO, at least.

.

You never denied reading me after ignoring me, obviously. You misread there or I wrote it wrong. (Grammar/expression isn't a strength here, I'll concede there, lol), But nevermind. It's irrelevant anyhow.

 

I engage others with a fair conversation, I feel, because they've not shown to be a troll/taking the piss to me. So I fully respect their opinions and give fair input if I feel it's warranted. Like I said, I felt you were/are out to take the piss - Troll me, so I didn't show to agree with you specifically when I do. I also disagree with many here (the forums as a whole), and yet no arguments or pettiness follows, often I'm shown others POV's and I then re-evaluate my own opinions on things with the more information I learn of things. Well, sometimes there is, lol - Some show to be deliberate. Some are obvious, as I said with you, I felt it was cute, but equally deliberate. Glad to see you say it wasn't, but I still feel it was something more personal in there. Anyway, I'm glad the moderators let us bash this out. I'll look to take negatives from this thread and see positives come of it as best my end.

 

That's all folks!. Peace out.

[Lonely-Martin]

 

 

<snip>

Broooo. "Leave or be kicked" is not "communication" or "patience". It is a literal threat in the form of an ultimatum that will end with the same outcome regardless of which "option" the threatened party chooses. There's nothing benevolent about forcing a player to leave a lobby, whether you kick him, or you convince him to do it to himself.

 

The guys sending the initial message did await his response/reaction. That showed a little patience, IMO. And from there, communication won out.

 

Again, don't disagree the problem/request should be there or made. But it is. So with that, we then make a choice based on the situation presented. They chose a peaceful way that I feel should be highlighted more, as in the longer run, more could learn that just a little bit of co-operation and less pre-empting players could also help ease this issue.

 

Like I said, I don't feel R* want to help, let alone feel there's an issue really. So it's on us more to spread positive methods to eradicate this crap. Rather than look to immediately kick, the very least one should do it ask if a player would help the peace stay in a session. (Again, based on the way things currently are, not how they could/should be with balance, options, and minimal/no cheats).

Edited March 15, 2018 by KWF1981

[Black-Dragon96]

Are you really this slow or is it an act? Did I ever say he was forced to leave? Learn to read if you insist on responding to me.

Here you go:

They demanded he leave or be kicked.

He pleaded to stay.

This is bullying and begging.

They "demanded" him to leave, as in forcing him to leave.

But I guess you will find a way to claim you meant something diffrent.

 

 

 

Asking is in the form of a question. He didn't ask a question, he pleaded not to be kicked and stated his business. I believe this is not the first time I have explained that, please read the topic.

He asked them if he could stay. Asked as in request or enquire.

I dont see anything wrong with requesting something.

 

A lot of gibberish among that but I guess you're attempting to claim that a P2P network of players runs on someone's internet and that there is a host? Which is incorrect. Research it, I am not about to explain the fundamentals of P2P networking to someone with a track record of struggling to understand the most simple of posts.

 

I did research it and every example I found mentioned that there is a host. Gta online even shows just that every time you start up a job. There is always someone who hosts the job.

P2P only means that there is no dedicated server and that the data is shared betweem the participants of the game.

 

Again, making things up though. I have never said messages never come. I have never complained that messages would never come. You are incredibly incorrect and stating things which are just untrue - again.

I wont go through the entire topic just so that you can take it and claim that you meant something else with what you wrote. Edited March 15, 2018 by Black-Dragon96

[Cutter De Blanc]

You guys are talking about communication and it being good, but honestly from my own perspective, I shouldn't be forced to have to message another player about anything in order to avoid being kicked from a Public session if I'm minding my own business.

[Guest]

@BlackDragon

 

1. He wasnt forced to leave. I have never said otherwise and neither has anyone else. The quote you claim I said that in doesn't say it at all and brings me back to requesting you read what is written.

 

2. He did not ask if he could stay. He pleaded and explained what he was planning. At no point has he said he asked anything.

 

3. Research more. P2P has no single host. Peer to peer is what it says. If you plan on arguing please at least check your facts. If you had researched this you would find that the first three websites google lists show it clearly. Wikipedia shows a diagram which clearly shows interconnected clients/servers and no centralised server.

 

4. You are wrong. I have never said any such thing. If you want to claim otherwise prove it.

 

What I write is what I mean. None of this "as in" stuff. You clearly misunderstand a lot. With that in mind it would be appreciated if you would stop altering what I have said claiming I've said something which has not been said.

 

Also I feel congratulations are in order for somehow making yourself look more ridiculous than normal.

Edited March 16, 2018 by Guest

[Black-Dragon96]

@BlackDragon

 

1. He wasnt forced to leave. I have never said otherwise and neither has anyone else. The quote you claim I said that in doesn't say it at all and brings me back to requesting you read what is written.

Well then please explain to me what "demanded him to leave" does mean.

 

2. He did not ask if he could stay. He pleaded and explained what he was planning. At no point has he said he asked anything.

Asked as in requested. He requested to stay in the lobby, he requested that they dont kick him. Basic english language.

 

3. Research more. P2P has no host. Peer to peer is what it says. If you plan on arguing please at least check your facts.

Then please explain to me why every single job lobby in gta online has a host, explain why the online mode of watch dogs 2 that runs on a peer to peer system has host migration.

How about you check your facts for a change.

 

4. You are wrong. I have never said any such thing. If you want to claim otherwise prove it.

Like I said I wont bother to go through the entire topic just so you can claim "but I did not mean it that way" like in point 1.

 

With that in mind it would be appreciated if you would stop altering what I have said claiming I've said something which has not been said.

I havent altered any of your posts, your claim is invalid.

 

Also I feel congratulations are in order for somehow making yourself look more ridiculous than normal.

The only one who makes himself look ridiculous are you, I'm afraid.

[Guest]

 

@BlackDragon

 

1. He wasnt forced to leave. I have never said otherwise and neither has anyone else. The quote you claim I said that in doesn't say it at all and brings me back to requesting you read what is written.

Well then please explain to me what "demanded him to leave" does mean.

 

Since I didn't say that either, it's moot. Again I urge you to read what has been said. You will find that he was asked to leave or be kicked. Until you can understand what is being discussed there's little point in your involvement here.

 

 

 

2. He did not ask if he could stay. He pleaded and explained what he was planning. At no point has he said he asked anything.

Asked as in requested. He requested to stay in the lobby, he requested that they dont kick him. Basic english language.

 

He did not request anything either. Pleading/begging and explaining are not requesting. Besides, in basic English we would capitalise a name, if you're going to attempt to call someone out on basic English at least use it correctly yourself.

 

 

 

3. Research more. P2P has no host. Peer to peer is what it says. If you plan on arguing please at least check your facts.

Then please explain to me why every single job lobby in gta online has a host, explain why the online mode of watch dogs 2 that runs on a peer to peer system has host migration.

How about you check your facts for a change.

 

The host in job lobbies has control over the game settings etc. it's a different kind of host. It is P2P, in P2P there is no centralised server. You are mixing up terms. Seriously, read the Wikipedia page on it, google it, look at diagrams on it, there is no centralised server/no single host. Each player is both a client and a server, each player connects to each other player.

 

Clearly you have not researched it at all.

 

My facts are fine.

 

 

 

4. You are wrong. I have never said any such thing. If you want to claim otherwise prove it.

Like I said I wont bother to go through the entire topic just so you can claim "but I did not mean it that way" like in point 1.

 

 

With that in mind it would be appreciated if you would stop altering what I have said claiming I've said something which has not been said.

I havent altered any of your posts, your claim is invalid.

 

In that case, show me the posts where I have said messages never come. I have not said you alter my posts either, I have said you alter what I have said and claim I have said something else. I post what I mean yet you continually misinterpret even the simplest of statements and then argue against something that's not actually been said nor implied.

[Black-Dragon96]

 

 

Well then please explain to me what "demanded him to leave" does mean.

Since I didn't say that either, it's moot.So, you didn't say that either, interesting, very interesting.

So this post of you:

They demanded he leave or be kicked.

He pleaded to stay.

This is bullying and begging.

, is my imagination or what?

 

He did not request anything either. Pleading/begging and explaining are not requesting.

Funny how I did not see him begging at all.

But I guess simply telling the other guys that you are friendly and to stop the votekicking is begging somehow in your mind.

 

The host in job lobbies has control over the game settings etc. it's a different kind of host. It is P2P, in P2P there is no centralised server. You are mixing up terms. Seriously, read the Wikipedia page on it, google it, look at diagrams on it, there is no centralised server/no single host. Each player is both a client and a server, each player connects to each other player.

 

Clearly you have not researched it at all.

 

My facts are fine.

Like I said I have found examples telling me that there is indeed a host in peer to peer systems. To my knowledge peer to peer only means that the data is shared between the systems of the players without a dedicated server.

If now a host would get the data from all other players and send the data of every player to everyone in the match there would not be a dedicated server and we wluld have a peer to peer system.

If you have proof that I am wrong, thats not wikipedia or "you are wrong", it would be appreciated if you show it.

Oh and you still havent answered how watch dogs 2 peer to peer online part has hostmigration if there arent any hosts in peer to peer.

 

I have not said you alter my posts either, I have said you alter what I have said and claim I have said something else. I post what I mean yet you continually misinterpret even the simplest of statements and then argue against something that's not actually been said nor implied.

How can I alter what you said without altering your posts?

If you post what you mean how come you claim you meant it diffrent everytime someone calls you out on your bullsh*t?

If one can misinterpret your post that means its not very clear what you are trying to say. Thats not my fault, but yours.

 

Edit:

You will find that he was asked to leave or be kicked.

Errr...:

Asking is in the form of a question. He didn't ask a question, he pleaded not to be kicked and stated his business.

Were exactly did they ask a question?

Another example of your strange logic.

Edited March 16, 2018 by Black-Dragon96

[Guest]

<snip>

Jesus dude, are you really being this slow?

 

To clarify, I said;

 

They demanded he leave or be kicked.

He pleaded to stay.

This is bullying and begging.

I did not say;

 

they demanded him to leave

Demanded him to leave doesn't even make sense and is not correct use of the English language.

 

They gave him an ultimatum, leave or we will kick you, both with the same outcome. In any case, nobody anywhere said they forced him to leave, he was not forced to leave as he begged to stay.

 

How is this so hard for you to grasp?

 

 

He pleaded to stay, I am not the only one who has said this. Nobody should need to beg to remain in a public session. Read Ninja's explanation of this since that's what made KWF take the blinkers off and understand this.

 

 

 

my response was PLEASE DON'T KICK ME im just trying to sell my coke n bunker promise no problems...

No player should be forced to prostrate himself before the Lobby Lords. No player should have to beg permission to play in a public lobby.

 

You are incorrect with your P2P information. As explained multiple times to you now in a p2P network each player is both a client and server, each player connects to each other player. It's all over google if you search. They even have nifty little diagrams to show it for those who cannot grasp the concept when in the written word.

Here is how GTA works;

 

This was the top image result when adding in GTA online to the google search of "P2P networking", it's from a very informative reddit post regarding how GTA Online works.

 

Are you disputing wikipedia now too? Let me guess, lizard people right? Wikipedia is correct in this instance. However it is irrelevant since you now have a snazzy diagram to explain how it works. Let me guess, you will refute the diagram because, well, because you are clearly wrong, did no research and are now attempting to save face at the cost of being 100% incorrect. It's the buffed vehicles all over again!..

 

Like I said, research before running your mouth and certainly research before arguing that an IT professional for over 20 years is wrong about it.

 

I haven't answered watchdogs because I don't play watchdogs, this isn't watchdogs and I do not know how watchdogs works. I have no interest in watchdogs nor any interest in how watchdogs works. It's a moot point since I have provided you with a very simple and detailed diagram of how GTA Online works and since it's GTA Online which we are discussing, other games do not matter. I suspect watchdogs host migration refers to the host, as in the player with the power to change options etc. rather than a network host.

 

You state I have said something, for instance, that messages never come. This is incorrect. You have not quoted this, you refuse to quote the post this is from, you have simply typed something and claimed I have said it when I have not. You have most likely remembered something similar and written down what you believe was said yet wasn't (I'd like to assume it's accidental anyway) or you deliberately alter what I have said, claiming something entirely different, however refuse too provide any information of when or where I said it.

 

I've never changed what I have said. I have explained what it means. In every instance I have explained it means exactly what I have written. Generally this is in response to others paraphrasing or in some cases, completely changing what's been said - for instance your entire argument about how I said this player was forced to leave according to you, when my words never mentioned forced at all.

 

I write "They demanded he leave or he would be kicked".

You claim I wrote "They forced him to leave"

You then claim "They demanded him to leave"

Neither of what you claim I wrote are true, that is true is that I wrote "They demanded he leave or he would be kicked", something very different to what you claim I wrote. This is only one example, there are many others.

 

 

They gave him an ultimatum, leave or be kicked. They asked him to leave, failing that they would kick him, either results in the same thing. How is explaining basic English "strange logic"?

[Lonely-Martin]

Read Ninja's explanation of this since that's what made KWF take the blinkers off and understand this

 

Be fair Demonic, I've said from the start that this issues shouldn't happen and that it's not right. Before we had our tiff, and much of what I posted came out of me feeling you were deliberately trolling me/the topic. (Again, that's how I feel/felt, not actually calling you names here).

 

I just tried to show a positive within this bullsh*t at the moment. If you are to involve me as an example in your arguments here, please be correct in your assumptions, as you clearly misread me/assume I'm in favour of all this.

 

I'm not. Never was. Be fair.

[Guest]

 

Read Ninja's explanation of this since that's what made KWF take the blinkers off and understand this

Be fair Demonic, I've said from the start that this issues shouldn't happen and that it's not right. Before we had our tiff, and much of what I posted came out of me feeling you were deliberately trolling me/the topic. (Again, that's how I feel/felt, not actually calling you names here).

 

I just tried to show a positive within this bullsh*t at the moment. If you are to involve me as an example in your arguments here, please be correct in your assumptions, as you clearly misread me/assume I'm in favour of all this.

 

I'm not. Never was. Be fair.

 

To clarify, I did not misread you nor assume you are in favour of bullying. I used you in the above example as I have had this same conversation with you, same argument, yet it come to an abrupt end when Ninja posted therefore assumed his explanation was clearer than mine.

 

Our whole argument stemmed from your response to my simple 2 line post regarding players begging to stay in public sessions. Ninja posted almost the exact same thing I said, worded a little differently, and that disagreement came to an abrupt end. I am hoping the same will happen with BD however based on the whole P2P network think looking like it's heading the same way as buffed vehicles in MC sale jobs, I highly doubt it will be the end of it.

 

I know you don't approve of kicking etc.

I also can see the good in this one example however it is hugely overshadowed by the bullying. Yes, it was good he managed to stay in the session, in the same way that it is good that Concentration Camp survivors are a thing. It's just too overshadowed by the bad part, the bullying, the kicks, the entitled douches who believe a public session can be owned.

[Lonely-Martin]

I used you in the above example as I have had this same conversation with you, same argument, yet it come to an abrupt end when Ninja posted therefore assumed his explanation was clearer than mine.

Our whole argument stemmed from your response to my simple 2 line post regarding players begging to stay in public sessions.

 

Our argument clearly started long before that, lol. Our argument stemmed from you calling/eluding regularly, including another thread (The petition, I believe) that I cheat, glitch, lie, and speak such tripe that you felt the need to tell me you are ignoring me, only to bait me further. (IMO, saying I'm 'selling bullsh*t' is calling one a liar really - And again, just to summarise. I don't care now as you cleared this all up since).

 

As I said, it was cute. But we're beyond that now as you and I aren't discussing the issue. You just assume I disagreed with you entirely because of this long running argument. I showed from the start this isn't right/good/ideal. I do feel there's too many cheats to be removing this feature entirely is all.

 

By saying 'I took off my blinkers' it eludes to saying 'he didn't agree, now does'.

 

I never agreed.

 

As shown with my responses to others. If they approach me with mutual respect, I return in kind. And then my points aren't lost in the bollocks I showed you, a person I though was taking the piss.

Edited March 16, 2018 by KWF1981

[Guest]

Don't make me quote you.

 

Edit: f*ck it, I'm quoting you.

 

 

You just assume I disagreed with you entirely because of this long running argument.

Not at all. I don't give a f*ck about past arguments in different topics. Topics are there for a reason, to segregate things. I don't drag sh*t from one to another (except once when in one topic someone stated one thing then in another, almost immediately after, stated the opposite).

 

I assumed you disagreed based on this following post of yours...

 

 

 

 

I joined a session last night and got a message saying "sorry after going through much bs lately we ask you to leave or kick" my response was please don't kick me im just trying to sell my coke n bunker promise no problems. They let me stay they got on the mic and talked to me and we came to the agreement if anybody else joins outside of my friends to kick them, I thought that was pretty cool.

So you had to beg to stay in a public session.

 

This is why the game has gone down the tubes.

 

It's called a truce dopey. The game encourages interaction. Doesn't all have to be versus though.

 

Though, TBH, the 'begging' claims were genuinely funny, lol.

 

1. It was not initially a truce. Regardless of the outcome, the initial bullying was the focus of the complaint/post from me.

2. There was no need for the word dopey in there, using it undermined your entire post. Irrelevant since I did not bite.

3. Begging claims were funny is clearly you arguing that it wasn't begging (why the quotes if that's not the case) and was not even being taken seriously.

 

This single post, and only this post, was where the discussion regarding this begging to stay in a public session stemmed from. No previous arguments had been dragged in to it on my part, no previous discussions mentioned.

 

 

As for the blinkers, you were attempting to argue everything I was saying regarding begging until Ninja posted and then it was a 180 turn and you suddenly agreed with him, shifted focus to something else in some attempted smoke and mirrors magician style sh*t to divert the attention away from your pettiness. It's quite funny to re-read your posts sometimes to see that about turn and some other smoke and mirror BS you try to pull. Save the topic somewhere and in a few years read it back, you'll see.

 

Want more quotes, it can be arranged.

Edited March 16, 2018 by Guest

[Lonely-Martin]

I'll quote myself then. My first post here, page 12. (I've not edited it in any way.

 

As everyone says when I was looking to sell in peace...

'It only takes a minute or 2 to find a new session and be away from potential attacks in busier sessions'

Basically, tough. Swings and roundabouts.

Funny though. Will get worse until more options come to play our own way, and pooling everyone together. And if it's taking too long to bounce, get better connected, lol. (Another classic from the salt mines).

I never kick, couldn't. I did all mine solo among these twats (aside early attempts), took my licks, and came out rich - But never again, only the minimum.

So glad to be out of that gutter, lol.

 

I underlined the part that shows I understand it is a problem. Simply, if not a problem, it can't get worse.

 

(Just noticed you and BD have been at it since long before i popped along, lol)

 

* The stuff you quote came long after we started arguing dude, bloody hell. Already explained where the 'dopey' comment came from, I was petty there, as, again, long before that moment, you showed to be trolling me here. Old news dude. All previous arguments are dragged in when I have clearly shown, and told you of my contempt.

 

Like I showed, from the start. This problem will grow if things stay as ignorant as they are.

 

Eureka!. You got there. I was arguing with you, not ninja. You trolled me/take the piss/accuse. So I did much in return. Finally!.

 

(Again, apologies all. but we got there, lol).

Edited March 16, 2018 by KWF1981

[Guest]

* The stuff you quote came long after we started arguing dude, bloody hell. Already explained where the 'dopey' comment came from, I was petty there, as, again, long before that moment, you showed to be trolling me here. Old news dude. All previous arguments are dragged in when I have clearly shown, and told you of my contempt.

Well perhaps you shouldn't drag them in. Perhaps let them go and stay where they belong. It is possible to argue one thing and not drag it in to every other argument. Look at Ninja and myself in this topic, we are not arguing, in fact we are on the same page yet in other topics we have not seen eye to eye at all. There are others too, Ninja is just the most recent example.

[Lonely-Martin]

 

* The stuff you quote came long after we started arguing dude, bloody hell. Already explained where the 'dopey' comment came from, I was petty there, as, again, long before that moment, you showed to be trolling me here. Old news dude. All previous arguments are dragged in when I have clearly shown, and told you of my contempt.

Well perhaps you shouldn't drag them in. Perhaps let them go and stay where they belong. It is possible to argue one thing and not drag it in to every other argument. Look at Ninja and myself in this topic, we are not arguing, in fact we are on the same page yet in other topics we have not seen eye to eye at all. There are others too, Ninja is just the most recent example.

 

Oh I agree. even with you yourself. I agree with you on other things, even this bloody issue. But like I said, you went too far in accusing me often enough. Yes, I took that into account when addressing you.

 

You claimed I talk tripe that you declared to ignore, yet here we are. And if another shows me that much disrespect, I can bite. (I accept that flaw of mine).

 

Many I disagree with, many I even play with too. Hell, my CMM III & IV were with players that have vastly different opinions of GTA than me, almost got hot on the party text too. But a mutual respect for each's view without all this, and we were gold. You showed to me to go far further, even look to belittle and ridicule much, even with things you then show to do. Anyway. Regardless. Yes, if someone is taking shots and being deliberate, I lose respect for that person and can get drawn in. You were cute here to oblige that, even after professing to be past it all and ignoring it all.

 

But we're past that now. We each know where the other stands. Shame it came this far, but I've no regrets really. Just glad we could bash this out and move on now.

[dragosani00]

FFS will you three take your personal little argument to private messages and stop filling this thread with your tit for tat bullsh*t that no-one else is interested in so people who actually want to can discuss the topic of this thread?

[Black-Dragon96]

They gave him an ultimatum, leave or we will kick you, both with the same outcome. In any case, nobody anywhere said they forced him to leave, he was not forced to leave as he begged to stay.

They wanted him out of the lobby by "choice" (aka leave himself) or by force (kicking him).

I understand that as forcing him out of the lobby, or atleast trying to force him out of the lobby.

 

While I agree that it is not the exact wording (I am indeed incorrect on that note), demanded he leave still means they forcefully asked him to leave.

 

He pleaded to stay, I am not the only one who has said this.

Im sorry but I dont understand "please dont kick me, im just here to make $" as begging.

Pleaded is also a synonym of request. Well Google translate tells me it is.

 

You are incorrect with your P2P information. As explained multiple times to you now in a p2P network each player is both a client and server, each player connects to each other player. It's all over google if you search. They even have nifty little diagrams to show it for those who cannot grasp the concept when in the written word.

Here is how GTA works;

 

This error message posted on this very forum says otherwise:

http://gtaforums.com/topic/845109-ps3-connection-to-the-session-host-has-been-lost/

 

Aswell as this german article:

https://playfront.de/onlinegaming-peer-dedicated-server/amp/

 

"Für diesen Datenaustausch gibt es grundsätzlich zwei Methoden. Eine Methode ist die Peer-to-Peer-Übertragung. Bei dieser Variante fungiert ein Mitspieler als Host, sämtlicher Datenverkehr wird über sein Endgerät (also die Konsole oder den PC) abgewickelt."

 

Translation:

 

For this datatransfer there are basicly two methods. One is peer to peer. Here one of the participants is the host, that means every datatransactions runs on his device (his console or his pc).

 

The host migration stuff happening in watch dogs 2 online mode, or some battlefield games and soke cod games also suggests otherwise.

I dont say you are incorrect, Im just not 100% convinced.

 

Are you disputing wikipedia now too? Let me guess, lizard people right? Wikipedia is correct in this instance.

I don't trust wikipedia 100% simply because, everyone can make an account and edit an article. After some bad experience I take everything on wikipedia with a grain of salt.

[elfoam]

ahha! Wikipedia unlike a book needs to be accurate with sources or it simply gets edited, you can write any sh*t you want in a book and it's set in stone. When I was working in a school I heard this "Wikipedia can be edited by anyone" my reply was.. Have you even tried it.. You couldn't figure out how to edit in the first place let alone get something to stick for more than a day.

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

Show me one youtube video of anyone doing any VIP work with a Volatol or Bombushka and I will retract my statement but seriously, f*ck off if you think you're kidding anyone with this sh*t about using the OP toys you complain about to do missions, VIP work and heists.

f*ck youtube crap? Is that because there are no videos of a bombushka attempting Head Hunter? Go make one, prove me wrong, shut me up, you know you'd love to be able to do that... "lol"

Gotchu fam:

 

[YouTube]

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[Guest]

Fair enough, consider the statement retracted.

[Furry_Monkey]

This error message posted on this very forum says otherwise:

http://gtaforums.com/topic/845109-ps3-connection-to-the-session-host-has-been-lost/

 

 

 

Just to clarify, jobs have a "host", but that host is not a server. They were the only node in the network when the job was created (when you start a job and invite people), or they are the assigned node (when the host changes for whatever reason).

 

The word "host" is not strictly correct in this situation (but not strictly incorrect either - just misleading). The very words "peer-to-peer" literally tells us that there is no server - every node in the network is a peer.

 

In free roam, however, there is no host. There is a cloud server (data from the Rockstar central data store) and however many players connected to each other as peers. No host.

 

As for the rest of the arguing, you guys really should get a room and work that stuff out in private. It's getting far too moist for my liking.

Edited March 16, 2018 by Furry_Monkey

[Black-Dragon96]

@Furry_Monkey

 

I see, thank you for making that clear to me.

Can you explain the "host migration" thing that I experienced with watch dogs 2? Preferably with a PM, so we don't derail the topic.

[Guest]

As for the rest of the arguing, you guys really should get a room and work that stuff out in private. It's getting far too moist for my liking.

Tried that a while ago, didnt stop it happening. Tried it again just now, here's hoping.