Players are voting for you to be removed from the session. Improve your behavior or you will be kicked.

[elfoam]

 

Why isn't this f*cking thread locked yet

 

Because people are still vote kicking, I got kicked out twice last night, worse yet the guys that kicked me out were flying around in a glitched deluxo that could cross the map in a few seconds.

[Black-Dragon96]

^Question:

How do you know it was him who kicked you and how can a single person kick you?

 

There's little point in attempting to discuss with someone so blinkered and lacks the ability to discuss. I guess ignoring your posts is something I should have done a long time ago.

So Im the one who lacks the ability to discuss, when you are unable to explain yourself or unable to defend your opinion when questioned.

You got offered a solution that had no negativ effects for any player, yet you dismissed it saying "thats not the point of the topic" and "I dont want sales in private lobbys.". No explanation or anything with substance, yet Im the one who is unable to discuss.

Great stuff man, great stuff.

 

 

@Ninja

 

I dont care about winning. There is nothing to win in a discussion, especialy if noone has the intention to change someones opinion.

 

 

Edit: Im not really sure on how to react to the post below mine.

Edited February 18, 2018 by Black-Dragon96

[No Use For A Name]

Thanks, Black Dragon.

 

I always wondered what a lobotomy feels like, and thanks to your posts I now know

[Big Molio]

Are the people who are posting "Ooooh Mavis, I'm surprised this thread isn't locked yet!" and "Why isn't this thread locked??" showing surprise because their reports have gone unheeded or what?

[Tonguegirl]

Are the people who are posting "Ooooh Mavis, I'm surprised this thread isn't locked yet!" and "Why isn't this thread locked??" showing surprise because their reports have gone unheeded or what?

'Kick' button is absent here

 

[email protected] Mavis

[Guest]

Its a shame, I thought the same people were gonna make this topic get more pages than the other topic that they derailed. Same happened to this topic but a mod finally stepped in after 20+ back and forth pages that got nowhere. If nothing was wrong, this wouldn't have gotten 36 pages. None of this would have gotten out of control had rockstar made freemode stuff available in private lobbies.

Jesus, change the record dude. We get it, you want freemode stuff available in private lobbies, it's pretty much all you post ffs.

 

Here's the thing... you've been preaching that for how long? 12 months? 18 months? How's that gone for you?

 

But because Rockstar wont change the game to suit your desires you're going to harp on about it in such a way that just screams out that you believe it should revolve around you...

 

Believe it or not but I've held my tongue when it comes to your posts but do you realise just how entitled you come across? Do you realise just how much it implies you don't want people to argue or oppose suggestions which you agree with?

 

You claim "the same people" derail topics yet you post simply with that statement and nothing to add to the discussion while "the same people" continually stick to the topic, attempt to avoid the topic being derailed and continually have to clarify and explain themselves because "the usual person" can't understand what's being posted despite it being in plain English and sometimes written over ten different ways.

 

Yes, if freemode sh*t was available in private then people wouldn't vote to kick a player so they could have that oxymoron of a session you class as "private public" or "solo public" yet it would not eliminate the misuse of the kick feature and regardless of all of that, as has been said many times, if my aunt had nuts she would be my uncle. It's irrelevant since it isn't available in private and there are no signs showing that it ever will be.

 

Just because you want what isn't available and Rockstar show no signs of changing it, does it really mean people aren't allowed to air their grievances regarding the cowardly and disrespectful, ignorant, rude, impolite, pompous, discourteous method players are using to circumvent these restrictions? If you have the right to bitch and moan about restrictions set by the developer then surely we should have the right to bitch and moan about vote kicking (and also the right to circumvent the effects of a vote to be kicked).

[Blasterman4EVER]

I'm just surprised how people refuse to respect the kick system as the best compromise. It really isn't even something that can be abused very easily.

I often have 6 friends in a full session and when all of us kick the same person, it's still not enough.

Sure, it can be abusive in a small session where you need less votes but....... if the kick feature didn't work, then even after finding a safe session for you and your friends, you wouldn't be able to preserve it.

The kick system works fine. Sigh.

[Guest]

I'm just surprised how people refuse to respect the kick system as the best compromise. It really isn't even something that can be abused very easily.

 

I often have 6 friends in a full session and when all of us kick the same person, it's still not enough.

 

Sure, it can be abusive in a small session where you need less votes but....... if the kick feature didn't work, then even after finding a safe session for you and your friends, you wouldn't be able to preserve it.

 

The kick system works fine. Sigh.

For you, sure.

 

Empty sessions are not required to sell, source etc. Not every player who enters will be hostile. Not every player who enters will allow script kiddys in or tryhards in. Empty sessions are a desire for those who wish to avoid any potential PvP, they aren't a necessity to play and enjoy the public locked stuff. Why should anyone be expected to compromise so that someone else can play how they want to play when that person or people could lag out again (if that's how they acquired the session)?

[Lonely-Martin]

 

Its a shame, I thought the same people were gonna make this topic get more pages than the other topic that they derailed. Same happened to this topic but a mod finally stepped in after 20+ back and forth pages that got nowhere. If nothing was wrong, this wouldn't have gotten 36 pages. None of this would have gotten out of control had rockstar made freemode stuff available in private lobbies.

Jesus, change the record dude. We get it, you want freemode stuff available in private lobbies, it's pretty much all you post ffs.

 

Here's the thing... you've been preaching that for how long? 12 months? 18 months? How's that gone for you?

 

But because Rockstar wont change the game to suit your desires you're going to harp on about it in such a way that just screams out that you believe it should revolve around you...

 

Believe it or not but I've held my tongue when it comes to your posts but do you realise just how entitled you come across? Do you realise just how much it implies you don't want people to argue or oppose suggestions which you agree with?

 

You claim "the same people" derail topics yet you post simply with that statement and nothing to add to the discussion while "the same people" continually stick to the topic, attempt to avoid the topic being derailed and continually have to clarify and explain themselves because "the usual person" can't understand what's being posted despite it being in plain English and sometimes written over ten different ways.

 

Yes, if freemode sh*t was available in private then people wouldn't vote to kick a player so they could have that oxymoron of a session you class as "private public" or "solo public" yet it would not eliminate the misuse of the kick feature and regardless of all of that, as has been said many times, if my aunt had nuts she would be my uncle. It's irrelevant since it isn't available in private and there are no signs showing that it ever will be.

 

Just because you want what isn't available and Rockstar show no signs of changing it, does it really mean people aren't allowed to air their grievances regarding the cowardly and disrespectful, ignorant, rude, impolite, pompous, discourteous method players are using to circumvent these restrictions? If you have the right to bitch and moan about restrictions set by the developer then surely we should have the right to bitch and moan about vote kicking (and also the right to circumvent the effects of a vote to be kicked).

Like you said, allowing businesses in private won't stop it all. There's other pansies kicking from damn near anything on a bad day. I agree here.

 

That said, those other kick/report abuses have been there since day one. Why did you not bitch, err, I mean, try to understand this 4+ years ago?. We've at least been very consistent in trying to get a change pretty much since it was added to the game. Where was this passion to understand back then?. As you said, There's been other reasons people abuse this, yet no real efforts all these years, lol.

 

Yeah, you care so pasionately about this, lol. It's been such a consistent issue, lol. Behave!.

 

It's clear as day, but you fail(ed) to recognise that this issue widely grew, and probably will continue to grow further, purely because of these businesses being set to 'public only'. And even when you do start to accept this, it's nothing but insults and abusive bullsh*t.

 

So yes, these businesses WILL be spoken about as one of the defining reasons behind you having to react like a spoiled child that just been told 'no'.

 

Also, removing the kick feature doesn't only help with abuses. It hampers gameplay. 1, can't kick a genuine cheat, ain't right they can have carte blanche while clean/legitimate players have to make way. This many cheats, That's basically a night of lobby hopping, forget that crap, it sends the wrong messages. Simple as that there really, lol. And, 2, Won't be able to kick those undesirables from jobs we all host, whatever it is. Again, shouldn't have to quit and re-host every time an undesired player joins.

 

By 'undesired' I simply mean for whatever reason one thinks really. If they don't want someone for any reason to join their jobs, only right they retain that choice.

 

To change it like this is clearly too much effort for R*. There's so much that's far less complicated that could do with attention, and as this is something integrated into the game from the off, might be much harder to tweak, and removal just ain't gonna happen. If they ignore all our pleas of things from the day they came (real issues, not just public businesses mind), you can be sure your 4+ years too late bitch and moan won't, lol.

 

You (among others) keep asking others to answer questions, you want answers to understand this. Yet refute what was offered as one of the bigger contributer's to this, and insult other players/gamestyles once you can't get a rise from people.

 

(But of course, you'll again say 'I'm not reading that' or some pap, lol... Childish).

Edited February 18, 2018 by KWF1981

[Ice_cold2016]

 

 

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f*cking hell!.

 

From an adult. Wow!.

How abooout, Rockstar create a system where it can detect players that abuse the kick feature and once detected you are forced into lobbies with others that abuse the kick feature. You know, like a bad sport lobby. A room full of tw*twotsits that love vote kicking. No gaming would get done in those lobbies as they would all just constantly be vote kicking each other. After a while they would all get fed up of being vote kicked and get a taste of their own medicine.

Lol. Only problem there though, even BS lobbies are something some players are keen to get into. Funny game really.

 

Doesn't matter if they did want to get into a vote kickers lobby. Because once they have abused the kick feature enough to end up in the lobby they would stay there and be out of everyone else's way. And because they all love vote kicking they would probably never leave the vote kick lobbies. They would forever be stuck on loading screens and bouncing around from vote kick lobby to vote kick lobby. lol

[Lonely-Martin]

^ IMO, if that's acceptable, then allowing these businesses in public will have the exact same results, and would be easier to Implement, not to mention, people will go mental if kicking genuine cheats/bad eggs deservedly then gets you sh*t.

This site is plagued, rightfully, regarding BS points for nonsense, indeed Big Molio showed in his response how daft things can trigger a BS lobby, lol.

 

(Edited as my stupid mobile spellchecker can't spell, lol)

Edited February 18, 2018 by KWF1981

[Black-Dragon96]

Not every player who enters will be hostile. Not every player who enters will allow script kiddys in or tryhards in.

Sure, not everyone who joins will be hostile, but a good portion of gta onlines players are. A nice lobby can turn into a sh*t one in seconds all it takes is just one jet and mememobile spamming tryhard.

Edited February 18, 2018 by Black-Dragon96

[flexcreator]

 

 

Sure, not everyone who joins will be hostile, but a good portion of gta onlines players are

 

You can easily distinguish hostile tryhards from regular players using the K/D stat. You don't have to kick everyone.

[Tonguegirl]

Just out of interest; do the people venting against the kick vote get as angry if they get kicked from a job, e.g. races, missions or heists?

[Big Molio]

Just out of interest; do the people venting against the kick vote get as angry if they get kicked from a job, e.g. races, missions or heists?

 

Happens to me all the time in races. Usually accompanied by accusations of "Moddeur, moddeur!!!!" from insufferable French children looking at my rank. When you remind them that the game is coming up for five years old, they go silent as their snail-addled minds try to process le information.

Edited February 18, 2018 by Big Molio

[Tonguegirl]

 

Just out of interest; do the people venting against the kick vote get as angry if they get kicked from a job, e.g. races, missions or heists?

 

Happens to me all the time in races. Usually accompanied by accusations of "Moddeur, moddeur!!!!" from insufferable French children looking at my rank. When you remind them that the game is coming up for five years old, they go silent as their snail-addled minds try to process le information.

 

Question is, does it annoy you in the same way when you get kicked?

[Big Molio]

Question is, does it annoy you in the same way when you get kicked?

 

Yeah it's annoying, but not as annoying as Freemode. At least in races you know it's because they've sh*t themselves that you are just going to easily breeze to a win (which is the truth)

[Black-Dragon96]

 

 

Sure, not everyone who joins will be hostile, but a good portion of gta onlines players are

You can easily distinguish hostile tryhards from regular players using the K/D stat. You don't have to kick everyone.

Not really. The two guys I met yesterday had a K/D of around 0.8, yet were hostile jet/deluxo/opressor spamming tryhards. It is indeed usefull most of the time, but sometimes its not.

[Black Boxcar in the dark]

surprised this thread isn't locked yet

Im also surprised its not locked yet.

 

But some guy trys kick me yesterday in Empty Public session then after 5 minutes he leaved.

Edited February 18, 2018 by AlbanyEsperanto

[Lonely-Martin]

Just out of interest; do the people venting against the kick vote get as angry if they get kicked from a job, e.g. races, missions or heists?

 

Bloody annoys me too, lol. Regardless of stance in this fun thread. Always Fleeca's and Pac Standards I get the boot from, races too, but they'd have lost anyway, lol. But for me, as bad as that gets, no-one should have to quit sessions because a genuine bandit gets in, be it cheating, or going beyond gaming to cause hassles. And in my experience, being kicked, changing sessions, or even loading into the game initially can all cause the lengthy time in clouds, partly the game has so much/is broken, partly so many have crap internet. So many variables there.

 

Kicking for no reason is most certainly poor, but kicking those that warrant it, key. And removing the feature now, near 5 years in. Gives a clear message to those looking to go further, to have at it. Had the thing been added and we knew a time before it existed in this game, fair play, we'd have prior knowledge. But with this many cheats, too late now. Next game will tell (Be it RDR2, or a new GTA)

 

Yeah it's annoying, but not as annoying as Freemode. At least in races you know it's because they've sh*t themselves that you are just going to easily breeze to a win (which is the truth)

 

So, clearly one way is less of an issue. (Not arguing it mind, I've agreed it's poor), my point is, if it was annoying before, how come there was no issues raised here, bar the odd B&M in the thread for just that, of which I've seen you make, understandably, yourself. Some of us have been vocal, and certainly in my case, deliberately loud in voicing what I feel would ease things, and would add to GTA, again, agree or not, is beside the point here, I merely mean, if this issue was already annoying, how come it wasn't addressed before?.

 

The things that truly piss me off, like research, I screamed over instantly. I didn't wait 4 years. The way some say this effects them, surely, that rage in needing to retaliate would be better used to truly retaliate and see it gone far earlier than now.

 

It's clear it frustrates, and that I totally get, it can with me too. But, if what's said is true, and these businesses shouldn't be discussed because they aren't the only issue, and as clearly this was going on long before (Been there, I know it's a day one thing too, Demonic's not wrong there, plagues the game at times), annoying people, like you showed, where was all this passion back then when, according to some, it was as big an issue then as it is now.

 

Should have said in my earlier post to Demonic that it's more an open question. It's caused sh*t from the start. But we're here now, nearing 5 years in, lol. Like I said, we're consistent and been asking since the start of these restrictions. I expect no changes to this game, but I'm sure R* have learned much good and bad with this game, we all did really. So time will tell. Game's potential is as big as ever, and many things they could add/remove/change over time. Definitely be fun finding out, lol. But we got 2 years of bitching about these businesses here in many places, only to get DDH, and record numbers again, lol.

 

#bangingthatdrum..

 

Peace man.

Edited February 18, 2018 by KWF1981

[Gettin up]

Keeep. It is necessary because of cheaters.

[MafiaDesigns]

Keeep. It is necessary because of cheaters.

Are they absolutely cheaters or do they just to things you can't so you call them a "cheater"?

 

People throw around that word way to soon when someone is in fact "better than them" at the game.

 

 

Sure, not everyone who joins will be hostile, but a good portion of gta onlines players are

You can easily distinguish hostile tryhards from regular players using the K/D stat. You don't have to kick everyone.

So just cause my k/d is a 5.03 does that mean I'm hostile? No, it just means I don't let anyone kill me or get close to killing me. Think before you throw around accusations of people being a "tryhard" which is in fact a term used by people to indicate that they are "better than you" hence calling them a tryhard.

[Black-Dragon96]

 

Keeep. It is necessary because of cheaters.

Are they absolutely cheaters or do they just to things you can't so you call them a "cheater"?

 

People throw around that word way to soon when someone is in fact "better than them" at the game.

Being able to go from Mazebank Tower to Sandy Shores Airfield and back in less then 10 seconds, standing behind a person 2 seconds after killing them, using a handheld minigun that shoots explosive rounds or driving a weaponized tampa that tanks 300+ explosive savage rounds has nothing to do with being better at the game.

 

Scriptkids are something you see on a regular basis on PC.

[Tonguegirl]

 

So just cause my k/d is a 5.03 does that mean I'm hostile?

 

 

Yes, yes it does

 

You're certainly not a fan of that Gandhi fella.

[No Use For A Name]

New rule: if you vote to kick me, fine. I dont care. If you vote to kick me and set a bounty for no reason, Im coming after your dumb ass regardless of what youre doing

[PetrolCB]

Thanks, Black Dragon.

 

I always wondered what a lobotomy feels like, and thanks to your posts I now know

 

Id rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

[elfoam]

Just out of interest; do the people venting against the kick vote get as angry if they get kicked from a job, e.g. races, missions or heists?

 

Not really because you don't have to cloud surf for 15 minutes after that, you just drop back to the lobby, still pretty rude though. That's mostly caused by people that don't know how to use the game and don't know how to close the job lobby etc so.. that's just noob error, it's not vicious asssholeness like the freemode kickers. I don't worry about it anymore, because of this thread I've just been joining lobbies and going after every shipment and sale I see. preemptive strike against the kickers. Just like they used to kick me as soon as my feet landed on the ground. I'm hoping to find the blackdragon :0!

Edited February 19, 2018 by elfoam

[We Are Ninja]

That said, those other kick/report abuses have been there since day one. Why did you not bitch, err, I mean, try to understand this 4+ years ago?. We've at least been very consistent in trying to get a change pretty much since it was added to the game. Where was this passion to understand back then?

Honestly, it's never been an issue until CEO work. I had actually never gotten kicked out of a lobby until R* refused to give players like you what you wanted.

 

 

So yes, these businesses WILL be spoken about as one of the defining reasons behind you having to react like a spoiled child that just been told 'no'.

Bro, you're projecting. You want to do CEO work in solo/invite lobbies, and R* said "No". Now, you're literally reacting like a spoiled child that has literally just been told 'no'. LITERALLY, LOL. C'mon, son. Who's really acting like an angry child? The player that's justifiably indignant after being warned to improve his or her behavior when he/she wasn't misbehaving, or the player that's upset and having a fit because R* won't give them what they want, so they're throwing a tantrum that affects the ENTIRE GTAO player base?

 

You guys are downright delusional.

 

 

You (among others) keep asking others to answer questions, you want answers to understand this. Yet refute what was offered as one of the bigger contributer's to this, and insult other players/gamestyles once you can't get a rise from people.

I don't want answers to why you do this. I know it's because you're lashing out and stomping your feet in a shockingly child-like manner because R* won't cater to your desires. I just want to know how you rationalize your actions. I, too, would love a lobby to myself to make money in, but I would never attempt to lock down a public lobby. That's so impossibly entitled/self-serving/inconsiderate/dickish/selfish/childish/self-important that I'd actually think less of myself.

Edited February 19, 2018 by We Are Ninja

[Lonely-Martin]

 

<snip>

1, Honestly, it's never been an issue until CEO work. I had actually never gotten kicked out of a lobby until R* refused to give players like you what you wanted.

 

<snip>

2, Bro, you're projecting. You want to do CEO work in solo/invite lobbies, and R* said "No". Now, you're literally reacting like a spoiled child that has literally just been told 'no'. LITERALLY, LOL. C'mon, son. Who's really acting like an angry child? The player that's justifiably indignant after being warned to improve his or her behavior when he/she wasn't misbehaving, or the player that's upset and having a fit because R* won't give them what they want, so they're throwing a tantrum that affects the ENTIRE GTAO player base?

 

You guys are downright delusional.

 

<snip>

3, I don't want answers to why you do this. I know it's because you're lashing out and stomping your feet in a shockingly child-like manner because R* won't cater to your desires. I just want to know how you rationalize your actions. I, too, would love a lobby to myself to make money in, but I would never attempt to lock down a public lobby. That's so impossibly entitled/self-serving/inconsiderate/dickish/selfish/childish/self-important that I'd actually think less of myself.

 

 

(Numbered for ease, but they all tie in really).

 

1, Ahh, but others are saying otherwise, again if this problem wasn't regarding these businesses to them, why wait this long to start this ball rolling. I know it was an issue before, long before. But others said otherwise (I'll add to this in #2). But 4+ years in, could have been addressed sooner, as even though it has grown rapidly, it was still an issue back in earlier days too.

 

2, Yeah, fair point. I can totally see the hypocrisy in my posts. But I'm not kicking people, I'm not running businesses after much hassle there either (Gunrunning saw an end to all that), so I am, especially after DDH's announced success, gonna definitely try to lean R* towards more of the same, if indeed we are heard in regards to anything. I vote for more choice, but I played the game. Just after those experiences, and seeing PvE respected/options added to freemode, time to bang the drum, might not affect the old, but it could with the new. Research was heavily slammed, IMO, not seeing that return is giving me hope. But we ain't out of the woods yet, so I've hopped on a bandwagon a bit. Noise is noise, lol. Don't hurt to ask, lots.

 

IMHO, R* haven't said no, as we can still use lone sessions, and those sultans still only show up in them. So aside what people do to tweak things, it's easy to still find ourselves there to do bits too. But I can certainly accept I've been busting Demonic's balls here a little, the man's so stubborn and refuses logical answers.

 

3, You may not want answers why, but many did, and some are riding Black-Dragon unfairly as I feel he's answered many, earlier on too. So I feel Demonic, among others are dropping to insult the man, and as I've sympathy for one trying against a few, aggressive taunts and all, yeah, as I acknowledged a few pages back, I got deliberate, even apologised. But the man won't listen to what people say, and gets as petty as me at times too. No, kicking for no reason is not right, but those doing it have offered their reasoning, and even appreciate it is a pain in the arse, I feel asking again and again, with name calling deserved in kind pettiness, but I'm sure many have been entertained, lol. (Been mentioned elsewhere, and many want this shut down - Ahh, boring, lol).

 

Me personally, these business are a lost cause. Have been for ages. I only really rebelled loudly with them when research came, as for myself that hampered me the most. But I do also feel these restrictions, the shark card push, and this, where we're at odds with each other, rather than join between us, and all try to see some change to benefit all. Much could, insurance, BS points, and yes, these businesses. But as I said, as DDH was better, IMO, in that it costs players less to do the PvP, but is truly optional, and the DLC added much for the pro PvP, and PvE crowds. As I said to Big Molio, I'm a banging that drum, lol.

 

I get your points, and will take it on board, apologies if you didn't enjoy your reading here. But to be fair, as silly as I get, I'm certainly not alone (and not from the pro kick guys either). Not in this thread, lol.

 

Peace out.

[Black-Dragon96]

I'm hoping to find the blackdragon :0!

Well good luck mate.

Better come prepared, I got some heavy weaponry up my sleeves and I know how to use it.