sheepdog6024 Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 and use that always for mods that need to replace something in package file then no game file gets ruined by modding and all the backups are in main game directory. But first you have to delete the previous stuff and redownload the game. I don't really understand the first part but either way for my game to work I have to delete everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda-J Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) if the mod installing instructions say you need to use openIV then copy the destination to mods folder using the right click option. It's modern counterpart for "modloader" which was safer way to mod GTA San Andreas back in the day. Total reinstall is required, your installing methods have broken it. Edited September 13, 2017 by ACM-Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog6024 Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) if the mod installing instructions say you need to use openIV then copy the destination to mods folder using the right click option. Total reinstall is required, your installing methods have broken it. Ok well like Cars and skins are the only thing I use open iv for, everything else is in the directory like plugins Also I can't delete some plugins, I tried that guide you sent me and it still wouldn't allow me to. Edited September 13, 2017 by sheepdog6024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda-J Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) it requires some creative thinking as well to manage file permissions and make them accessible again, i suggest to call someone who knows stuff and takes a look at the settings. So many different reasons to make permissions go wrong and professional should come to pc and test different ways or google more ways and try them all until you can delete them. This may take very long time and my time and nerves have limits so you have to figure this one out with someone else or by learning. Edited September 13, 2017 by ACM-Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog6024 Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 it requires some creative thinking as well to manage file permissions and make them accessible again, i suggest to call someone who knows stuff and takes a look at the settings. So many different reasons to make permissions go wrong and professional should come to pc and test different ways or google more ways and try them all until you can delete them. While I'm trying to figure that out I should delete my gta 5 game and directory? And re download gta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda-J Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) well thats the only way, you don't have any copy of clean game left (as i get from your previous statements) and this is why i got DVD version to have easy way to reinstall Edited September 13, 2017 by ACM-Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog6024 Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 well thats the only way, you don't have any copy of clean game left (as i get from your previous statements) Ok I'll do that and get back to you when gta is redownloaded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda-J Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) and try every solution that google suggests to delete files that give errors when trying to delete. BTW i have had many issues with windows suddenly removing permissions from files and self-learning via google helped always. Edited September 13, 2017 by ACM-Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog6024 Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) and try every solution that google suggests to delete files that give errors when trying to delete. BTW i have had many issues with windows suddenly removing permissions from files and self-learning via google helped always. Trying everything and nothing is working, I deleted most of the directory just not all of it And I can't even download gta again some error came up prob cause my gta 5 directory still has stuff in it. I'm going to do a factory reset Edited September 13, 2017 by sheepdog6024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda-J Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) try everything that you can find to get rid of those files, windows can really mind-fudge with such things sometimes Edited September 13, 2017 by ACM-Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog6024 Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 try everything that you can find to get rid of those files, windows can really mind-fudge with such things sometimes factory reset is going to have to be it, I'm done screwing around with this computer, once and if it works I'm just going to download all the stuff on my own not use my back up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog6024 Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 try everything that you can find to get rid of those files, windows can really mind-fudge with such things sometimes Alright I factory reset the computer and gta is downloading, how would I back it up? Just make a copy of the directory? I never backed it up before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog6024 Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 try everything that you can find to get rid of those files, windows can really mind-fudge with such things sometimes Gta is downloaded but I changed my graphics up and the game is very choppy. Don't know how to fix it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda-J Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) there is alot of small reasons why stuttering/choppiness happens, i had that too and tried literally tons of solotions from google to solve it, it's releated to messing with settings in game and video card manager program, i dont have patience to list them all especially when it's easier to google and test them because no harm can come changing settings since you dont have to change any files. Edited September 13, 2017 by ACM-Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog6024 Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) there is alot of small reasons why stuttering/choppiness happens, i had that too and tried literally tons of solotions from google to solve it, it's releated to messing with settings in game and video card manager program, i dont have patience to list them all especially when it's easier to google and test them because no harm can come changing settings since you dont have to change any files.Well I'm downloading drivers for nvidia now, that's what I found, instead of moving all my modded stuff over I'm going to do a fresh install of lspdfr and all my other plugins. I backed up my game already by copying the gta directory over into my other hard drive Update ok so drivers was installed and the game is fine. So now that the game works good I downloaded Scripthook / openIV / rage / and winrar. What's the next step? Edited September 13, 2017 by sheepdog6024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda-J Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) learning more about modding the game safely and enjoying it, im tired of explaining because self-learning has proven in past to be more effective. Edited September 13, 2017 by ACM-Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog6024 Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 learning more about modding the game safely and enjoying it, im tired of explaining because self-learning has proven in past to be more effective. Very true on that but you were telling me about defragmenting mods, can you go into more detail? Like if I download lspdfr it's going to put it in openIV isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda-J Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) ofc not, you have to open the "file" menu up left and click on defragment and click the button called defragment in next opened window then it will confirm soon that it has been finished then click edit mode button once more and close openIV also dont forget to copy required destination files to mods folder this time. EDIT: seems like LSPD FR is autoinstaller, that don't need anything else than launching the exe Edited September 13, 2017 by ACM-Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog6024 Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 ofc not, you have to open the "file" menu up left and click on defragment and click the button called defragment in next opened window then it will confirm soon that it has been finished then click edit mode button once more and close openIV also dont forget to copy required destination files to mods folder this time. EDIT: seems like LSPD FR is autoinstaller, that don't need anything else than launching the exe When I open up archive defragmenter in open iv what folder or files do I have to add? Because defragment is blacked out and I can't press it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda-J Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) *another facepalm* you copy the game files you about to mod into mods folder then in edit mode add mods in the respective files inside mods folder and after that when view is still inside mods folder you can use defragment option (thats what its made for) EDIT: I'm done now, if anyone else has willpower to continue explaining things then be my guest, im tired of this Edited September 13, 2017 by ACM-Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog6024 Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 *another facepalm* you copy the game files you about to mod into mods folder then in edit mode add mods in the respective files inside mods folder and after that when view is still inside mods folder you can use defragment option (thats what its made for) EDIT: I'm done now, if anyone else has willpower to continue explaining things then be my guest, im tired of this I guess the way you word it is confusing thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda-J Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) i can understand perfectly what im saying myself but since english ain't my first language nor i remeber anything form high school then i kinda mess up the grammar so to some i might talk chinese-english Edited September 14, 2017 by ACM-Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...