Will any one of you buy a Lazer for 6.5 million?

[Biter]

They should have made a two seat F-14 Tomcat clone. Would have been much more popular than the Lazer.

[Khaisz]

if upgradable i will

[whywontyoulisten]

I haven't read the whole thread so sorry if this has already been mentioned. I totally expect Lazers to stop spawning at Zancudo once they are for sale.

All apart from the one that mashes into your pv/sale vehicle on the runway outside Hangar 3499.

[PwnageSoldier]

Waiting for the next DM in Online glitch that sticks

[Pedinhuh]

 

ur the reason the explosive rounds exist and the same reason I grinded cash to get those rounds on my sniper. U jet pilots get dropped out the fking sky like flies as soon as I see the icon coming after me when I'm doing free mode business work. Ot: no I'm not buying the lazer. I don't like jets plus this thing is overpriced.

 

....

 

explosive sniper squad. Dropping fighter jets out the sky since June of 2017.

With or without explosive rounds, when you're trying to achieve something in GTA and you're lucky enough to see a jet coming your way, your priorities change. Mine do not.

They don't have to be lucky, just scan the map before moving business like I do and constantly watch the blips on the radar, also the player feed to see anyone repeatedly killing others.

 

Unless, of course, you're that kind of player who spams off radar and ghost organization.

 

In which case I just play your game and spam those as well

 

 

...And it's not like your precious jets is a stealth fighter, I can listen to it coming a mile away

[SkynetOnlineID]

I'm glad I was able to get the Lazer in my hanger for free and early.

[Pedinhuh]

 

I also honstly doubt that a starling will last long in a dogfight against anything thats not an annihilator.

CorrectAre you sure about that?

 

[Video]

 

You underestimate the power of the Starling, its has more maneuverability and flares too.

Edited September 20, 2017 by Pedinhuh

[StangOne50]

I just found a guy that already has the Lazer in his hangar and painted blue on PS4.

Edit: seems there is a glitch,

Edited September 20, 2017 by StangOne50

[Prince_Polaris]

I just found a guy that already has the Lazer in his hangar and painted blue on PS4.

Edit: seems there is a glitch,

 

Yeah but the damn video is in russian

[Nyamber]

 

I just found a guy that already has the Lazer in his hangar and painted blue on PS4.

Edit: seems there is a glitch,

 

Yeah but the damn video is in russian

 

It's also patched now, so I wouldn't bother trying until they find another one.

[Black-Dragon96]

 

 

I also honstly doubt that a starling will last long in a dogfight against anything thats not an annihilator.

Correct

Are you sure about that?

 

[Video]

 

You underestimate the power of the Starling, its has more maneuverability and flares too.

Sure it may fly the faster turns, that means if you have an aircraft following you you will end up behind them eventually.

But what if the following pilot changes directions amd flys an diffrent turn (you turn right he turns left)? At the half of the turn you may end up with a lazer deathbeam up your nose and if you do a full turn the oposing pilot will be on your tail again.

Flares do also not help against the lazer/hydra deathbeam or the molotoks spamrockets. In a real fightsituation it does not have a chance, but thats not a problem because thats not what its build for.

[StangOne50]

 

 

I just found a guy that already has the Lazer in his hangar and painted blue on PS4.

Edit: seems there is a glitch,

 

Yeah but the damn video is in russian

 

It's also patched now, so I wouldn't bother trying until they find another one.

 

Oh well probably better off. All I need is to get reported for flying a chrome Lazer before its release lol

[CosmicBuffalo]

Camera Angle affects turning ability and speed. I noticed the video stays behind all planes. Basically, the actual jets cut harder with the thumbstick pressed up. Make your video going around the maze bank. Or better, get two pilots that know what to they are doing to 1v1 with hydra. The winner gets a rogue or whatever, see who wins. Hydra will win...no doubt, except against the lazer thats why its 6mil. It needs no upgrades to trash all other things.

 

Edit...Starling definitly turns tighter to be fair. If it had a cannon, it would be the best. Rogue is fun, but no match for the hydra. It would be an interesting fight between the hydra and the starling, i think the hydra would and should win once the starling pilot is out of boost.

Edited September 21, 2017 by GenericGTAO

[Gaffa]

Camera Angle affects turning ability and speed.

 

Is there any sort of evidence you could provide to back that theory up?

 

The only thing affecting agility normally is handling setting (stock/ smooth/ sport/ race) and speed (the slower, the less manoeuvrability).

[Cutter De Blanc]

Running out of boost has never been a problem for me in the Starling. Every dogfight I've had with a Jet so far in it has either ended in me shooting them down or if I'm facing a decent pilot I end up colliding with them in mid-air. I don't think I've been hit by a jet in the Starling yet.

[CosmicBuffalo]

 

Camera Angle affects turning ability and speed.

Is there any sort of evidence you could provide to back that theory up?

 

The only thing affecting agility normally is handling setting (stock/ smooth/ sport/ race) and speed (the slower, the less manoeuvrability).

I know that when I change the camera angle and hold the buttons in the same position it changes the direction of the plane. For a fact. Against other players, I am always able to tell if they know how to circle by the speed I get behind them or not, faster if they dont know about the right thumb stick. Stalemate if they use the right thumbstick. Usually ends in a crash. At this point you would normall switch to throttle control/braking...hardly anyone uses this technique, I am not even that good myself. Edited September 21, 2017 by GenericGTAO

[Gaffa]

I know that when I change the camera angle and hold the buttons in the same position it changes the direction of the plane. For a fact.

 

Well you're saying it's a fact, and I'm saying it isn't. It's not backed up by anything I've seen in the game files; is there a YouTube video showing the differences? It doesn't work this way on PC where there's "on or off" inputs, nothing in between, the only thing I can think the camera angle has anything to do with is being able to lock onto targets slightly earlier.

[CosmicBuffalo]

Because it is a fact, there are tons of youtube videos about dogfighting jets. The camera angle matters to follow the oppenent and it increase turning ability. The camera angle has slight a effect on turning enough that if used, the pilot using it has a significant advantage. I dont know why it does, but it does. I dont know why the lazer or hydra, or any plane fly backwards, but they do. It has something to with camera because if the camera shifts you lose the backwards flying. At least that what it seems like.

 

Another vehicle that seems like it gets a turning boost from pressing th camera up is the oppressor. Its seems like it floats longer and turns sharper. Could just be a feeling though.

 

I just want to say. I have no scientific testing, but have a ton of experience with dogfighting and mainly failing. Here is someone way better than me. Not trying to promote a youtube or whatever, but you asked. You will notice that in the kills he lets go of the camera and the jet straightns out.

 

 

Edited September 21, 2017 by GenericGTAO

[Gaffa]

Lol, where the camera is pointed doesn't affecting turning speed. That just seems like very good use of managing the throttle, spoilers and rudder and really that's the best way to take on an opponent - by keeping the camera on them - but that in itself doesn't mean aircraft are more responsive when the camera is used.

 

That sort of idea would suggest someone somewhere had done some sort of testing to show how the turn speed was different when leaving things normal, and then comparing with looking ahead to where you're going. (If anyone is able to further this topic by providing some sort of baseline to go off, that'd be handy, and I'll obviously eat my words if it can be proved).

 

Like with the Smuggler's Run and handling upgrades - it's quite apparent, comparing stock handling to race, to show the biggest difference, that the race handling certainly improves the effectiveness of the rudder, ailerons and elevator, and a test could show how those three things are improved. I've got a test lined up with some props in single player, just hadn't gotten round to do that video yet.

 

Jets (and even some prop planes) can be flown backwards, made really easy by starting off with a stall, but the camera only helps give some sort of perspective as to where you're going to end up, leaving it in the usual position will see the camera pan round to the rear automatically anyway, but it's by no means something that 'only happens when messing with the camera' - just that makes things a bit easier because you can see where you're going.

[CosmicBuffalo]

Never done any time testing, I just can tell when a player isnt using the thumb stick v when they are. The turn is sharper. As can be seen in the video. When he lets go of the rt thumb stick, the jet sort of dips and straightens out.

 

This how I evade homing lanunchers as well.

 

I dont really notice a difference with molotok.

 

I honestly feel like its most noticeable with the oppressor, but as I said, I havent used enough to say it makes a difference.

[Happy Hunter]

Sure it may fly the faster turns, that means if you have an aircraft following you you will end up behind them eventually.

But what if the following pilot changes directions amd flys an diffrent turn (you turn right he turns left)? At the half of the turn you may end up with a lazer deathbeam up your nose and if you do a full turn the oposing pilot will be on your tail again.

Flares do also not help against the lazer/hydra deathbeam or the molotoks spamrockets. In a real fightsituation it does not have a chance, but thats not a problem because thats not what its build for.

 

I don't know - I've been getting use out of it against jets.

 

 

[The Wandering Hunter]

Yes for both characters.

 

I'd spend another million if you could upgrade the Lazer radio to constantly loop Danger Zone (the song, not the long winded forum poster).

please don't give them ideas

 

i have youtube for that

I'm glad I was able to get the Lazer in my hanger for free and early.

they'll probably blacklist it temporarily or something, i doubt they'll let this one slide.

[B4T4LI4]

 

All that money just to get shot down by a starling.

 

Hydra reigns supreme. Forget pv the Pegasus one spawns at helipads. The Lazer you need a landing strip. Also the Lazer is the most overhyped crap ever.

No bombs? No flares? NO POINT

Well the point for me is that the lazer looks a lot cooler, handles better than the hydra and that i have always wanted to own a lazer.

I also honstly doubt that a starling will last long in a dogfight against anything thats not an annihilator.

If that's the case you met some bad starling pilots mate. I find it quite easy to get behind most aircraft in my starling. Hydra is a little tougher so you need to get the drop on them and never go face to face with one. A good lazer pilot however will wreck you.

[polaris23]

I know its probably patched already, but how were people able to glitch a Lazer into their hangar?

[StangOne50]

I know its probably patched already, but how were people able to glitch a Lazer into their hangar?

glitch posted couple pages back and yes I believe it is patched.

[SkynetOnlineID]

The lazer was removed for anyone who glitched it into their hanger for free. Seems Rockstar really wants everyone to buy it instead.

[FallingAway]

The lazer was removed for anyone who glitched it into their hanger for free. Seems Rockstar really wants everyone to buy it instead.

Ya they blacklisted it, not too surprised. Oh well, it was fun for a few days.

[Devdevi45]

Is there any customization?

[FallingAway]

Is there any customization?

Paint, lol.

[Black-Dragon96]

 

 

All that money just to get shot down by a starling.

 

Hydra reigns supreme. Forget pv the Pegasus one spawns at helipads. The Lazer you need a landing strip. Also the Lazer is the most overhyped crap ever.

No bombs? No flares? NO POINT

Well the point for me is that the lazer looks a lot cooler, handles better than the hydra and that i have always wanted to own a lazer.

I also honstly doubt that a starling will last long in a dogfight against anything thats not an annihilator.

If that's the case you met some bad starling pilots mate. I find it quite easy to get behind most aircraft in my starling. Hydra is a little tougher so you need to get the drop on them and never go face to face with one. A good lazer pilot however will wreck you.

Well havent met one yet however i simply cant imagine that it would last long against the lazer/hydra deathbeam. At the end of the day, it all comes down to the pilot.