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GTP_Monkey

Savage or Hunter

Savage or Hunter  

179 members have voted

  1. 1. Please choose one

    • Hunter
      112
    • Savage
      67


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SHOKKERZ91

It depends on the situation and how many players are in the hunter (for it´s full potential).

You can use all weapons of the savage by your own, while the cannon of the hunter can only be used by the co-pilot.

When two equaly good pilots meet, one in the savage and one in the hunter, i think the savage will win, because of his precise cannon.

I destroyed plenty mission-hunters with my savage already (yeah, shame on me) Because they where all without co-pilot (and only spamming homing missiles, except 2, and those two only hit me once).

A hunter with 2 guys in it will always win, doesn´t matter if with the explosive cannon or not. The range dominates here.

 

This is the savage before the buff.

 

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Terrazi Terrajin

Definitely choosing the Hunter over Savage, doesn't mean I will stop using the latter though.
It's got flares(limited)/chaffs, the Savage's missile rate and the rapid fire missiles to replace the solo-cannon. Now hearing about how much armor it has, has me all the more excited to blow the last of my money on it.

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FallingAway

I'll definitely take the Hunter, it's fast and agile with plenty of weapon choices. It is disappointing about the cannon but overall I'm very happy with it.

 

I doubt the barrage missiles will be limited in number since it has a few second cool down already. If it had a fixed number of missiles I would think you could just spam them at once similar to the APC.

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egomaniac247

The Hunter feels like a flying STICK.

 

Seriously, it's so awward to fly, the tail is so long it feels like the thing pivots on it's nose instead of actually turning.

I like the Savage better, especially because of the explosive rounds.

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Arrows to Athens

 

I feel out of the loop, what did they buff about the savage?

It now survives a missile. I've also heard it can survive 2, though I think you have to be lucky for that (depends where it hits I'd imagine).

 

My test still get it when it comes to non-explosive weapons (still 9 kicks, etc.) - though I can't speak for when someone's in it. It might be buffed to non-explosive stuff when someone's flying it; not sure.

 

At any rate, it's buffed to explosives guaranteed.

 

Nice buff too.

 

I like how they buff the Savage when the DLC containing the Hunter drops. Coincidental timing? I guess not.

Edited by Arrows to Athens

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Gridl0k

Instant coffee or Blue Mountain?

 

:D

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GTP_Monkey

Although I currently prefer the Savage I will also buy the Hunter when available

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FuturePastNow

I think the Savage will only remain superior for solo contact jobs, since you can use the gun. The Hunter will be better for everything else, especially if you have a friend to use the gun, and with flares for freemode.

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Dragon_Of_Tragedy

The hunter flies incredibly smooth

Such as shame the pilot can't use the front mounted gun. What a waste.

 

Savage or hunter? Wait until hunter has been released to find flaws before you decide.

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Forza Harrd

Honestly I find I can do contact missions quicker with my Buzzard. Contact missions are predictable enough to easily make every missile count so that cooldown isn't an issue. It's so much quicker and maneuverable that it makes up for not having the "ray beam of death" explosive cannon.

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Happy Hunter

The Hunter's firepower makes people lose their nerves easily.

 

 

 

In the end (if they're of the mind to do it anyway) they'll be killing themselves all over the place, and panic easily.

 

Also, a lucky hit on a jet:

 

 

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Darkwing_F

At least NPCs get nervous. I watched the first video and have not been impressed much. :cry: But I still have the plan to buy a Hunter...

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Black-Dragon96

Both.

Savage against NPCs (I love doing headhunter with it) and if you have no co pilot.

Hunter for PvP or if you have a co pilot.

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Wildfire_08

Hunter even in it's standard form is better, although I really f*cking hope that when we are able to purchase it, that we can switch the HMG to be controlled by the pilot, and not the second person in the heli.

 

At least I assume that's why there is an MG on the front, with a second seat at the front & I wasn't able to switch to it..

 

The free fire cluster f*ck rockets are good I suppose, but it turns like a cruise ship, can be easily merked by a laser (as with basically everything) ... For me it'll depend on how much punishment it can take with max armour + whether they'll allow me as the pilot to operate the gun, because that is a critical factor in dogfights.

 

 

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Commander S

Well, the Savage:

- costs about than 2/3 the price of the Hydra (not entirely sure of the exact trade discount, but still...)

 

- ticks all my Metal Gear Solid nostalgia boxes

 

- doesn't require me to fork out an extra couple of million and get stuck with Ron's smuggling business, just to be able to buy the thing... :rol:


That's where it matters to me - already own a Savage (and a Buzzard before that), don't see myself getting the Hunter any time soon (probably ever...). Bit miffed that R*'s idiotic arbitrary paywalls mean that I'm likely locked out of getting the Molotok or Nokota for the same reason, but considering we could own Pegasus vehicles just fine for years, and we didn't need to buy Benny's in order to even access things like Lowriders (you can still buy a Faction as-is, for example), the current approach is just utter bobbins, IMO. :p

Edited by Commander S

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VercettiKiller

I prefer the hunter, already flown on missions and it's very stable and can fire multiple missiles, also is from the 3D era, something very nostalgic.

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Happy Hunter

Hunter even in it's standard form is better, although I really f*cking hope that when we are able to purchase it, that we can switch the HMG to be controlled by the pilot, and not the second person in the heli.

 

At least I assume that's why there is an MG on the front, with a second seat at the front & I wasn't able to switch to it..

 

The free fire cluster f*ck rockets are good I suppose, but it turns like a cruise ship, can be easily merked by a laser (as with basically everything) ... For me it'll depend on how much punishment it can take with max armour + whether they'll allow me as the pilot to operate the gun, because that is a critical factor in dogfights.

 

 

Oh I'm 99.9% sure you can't use the gun solo in any situation, sadly.

 

(Taken from reddit) :

 

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Both say "gunner" on them.

 

This is obviously going to hurt it when it's fighting other aerial vehicles - especially jets. The missile barrage might make that feel a little better (haven't had enough time to say how much, though I did shoot down a Molotok/mig with it). But it's no substitute for a cannon.

 

If you do have someone to use it though, it has a great range. The stock, non-explosive one is 400m. The upgraded explosive one is 250m. That's 50m more than the Valkyrie, and 50m less than a homing launcher lock on.

 

Still a very good helicopter in my opinion. It takes a lot more damage than other helicopters:

 

(Courtesy of the honourable Classique, posted in the Hunter appreciation thread) :

 

 

Great news about the damage it can take.

STOCK:
One Homing Missile, blows up on the 2nd.
750 Mingun Bullets.
3-4 shots with the Explosive Sniper.
UPGRADED:
Two Homing Missiles, blows up on the 3rd.
950 Minigun Bullets.
5-6 shots with the Explosive Sniper.
Keep in mind theese are when the Hunter is unoccupied. It can take around double damage if it's occupied. However, I'm not sure this rule counts for the Explosive Sniper.

 

A comparison:

 

 

 

The turning/yaw will also be able to be improved via handling upgrades, I've been told.

 

It's fast too.

 

(Courtesy of the honourable Gaffa) :

 

 

 

Countermeasures are obviously a massive plus when comparing to other helicopters.

 

Oh, and dropping bombs feels really satisfying.

 

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Edited by Happy Hunter

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GTP_Monkey

Just hate the long wait for this now

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duskpanthers

The hunter flies incredibly smooth

Such as shame the pilot can't use the front mounted gun. What a waste.

 

Savage or hunter? Wait until hunter has been released to find flaws before you decide.

But pilot can use the barrage bombs which is powerful enough?

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Wildfire_08

 

 

 

Oh I'm 99.9% sure you can't use the gun solo in any situation, sadly.

 

(Taken from reddit) :

 

 

 

About the explosive cannon range... what's the range of the lasers explosive cannon?

 

If the ranges are even remotely comparable then with the right pilot/gunner combo this thing could be a serious threat to Jets which would be amazing to finally have some power shift back to helis.

 

As for no gun solo, that f*cking sucks tbh... but if he trade off is an explosive gunner then that's interesting, plus the increased armour and countermeasures.

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Happy Hunter

About the explosive cannon range... what's the range of the lasers explosive cannon?

 

If the ranges are even remotely comparable then with the right pilot/gunner combo this thing could be a serious threat to Jets which would be amazing to finally have some power shift back to helis.

 

As for no gun solo, that f*cking sucks tbh... but if he trade off is an explosive gunner then that's interesting, plus the increased armour and countermeasures.

 

Just a little shorter than the cannon on the Valkyrie, I think.

 

Here you can see the Savage, Valkyrie, and a Hydra at 0:13:

 

 

 

So, the Hunter being 50m longer than the Valkyrie - that gives it a decent amount of range over the jets. That's assuming you're using the explosive cannon too - if you left it stock, then it has an extra 150m; it reaches very far then.

 

Dive bombing is obviously going to be the big threat to it. I found it can swing up quite well though. Not as well as if they'd taken off the auto-stabilization (like the San Andreas Hunter) - but better than most the helicopters in this game in my opinion. Plus, sitting near buildings and stuff you could obviously make it more difficult for them.

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Wildfire_08

 

About the explosive cannon range... what's the range of the lasers explosive cannon?

 

If the ranges are even remotely comparable then with the right pilot/gunner combo this thing could be a serious threat to Jets which would be amazing to finally have some power shift back to helis.

 

As for no gun solo, that f*cking sucks tbh... but if he trade off is an explosive gunner then that's interesting, plus the increased armour and countermeasures.

 

Just a little shorter than the cannon on the Valkyrie, I think.

 

Here you can see the Savage, Valkyrie, and a Hydra at 0:13:

 

 

 

So, the Hunter being 50m longer than the Valkyrie - that gives it a decent amount of range over the jets. That's assuming you're using the explosive cannon too - if you left it stock, then it has an extra 150m; it reaches very far then.

 

Dive bombing is obviously going to be the big threat to it. I found it can swing up quite well though. Not as well as if they'd taken off the auto-stabilization (like the San Andreas Hunter) - but better than most the helicopters in this game in my opinion. Plus, sitting near buildings and stuff you could obviously make it more difficult for them.

 

 

Yeah, Dive bombing is always the threat, but I wonder if basically backflips will be as effective as they were in GTA IV, especially if the thing has an explosive cannon.

 

Another thing is as long as the pilot is in control of CEO with Ghost/OTR, and monitors the map effectively, he can easily adjust altitude so that a jet has to come from below, or the cat and mouse with range/altitude to where he would onlky come close if he's at a higher altitude.

 

Not many jet pilots are gonna be thinking that far ahead either, like the 1%ers to be honest, but having said that, I guess that's also true of the Hunter pilots.

 

I mean, how many hunter pilots are going to be even remotely decent, and have a gunner, and monitor the map and have all the skills of a veteran GTA player... probably not many.

 

Oh well, it'll still be fun, and at this point there are so many games around the corner I don't really care.

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ALifeOfMisery

Hunter 100%. I've no doubt the PV version fully upgraded will be a beast.

 

I'm still getting use to the handling, but I've had years of experience flying a Savage, so I'm sure it will come good with practice.

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d3mentu

Hunter 100% is CG Savage is OG :D

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ibsmokin

I just wish the Hunter handled like it should, in real life it is agile as f*ck. We don't need to be able to do flips in it like San Andreas but you should be able to achieve at least 45°tilt at full acceleration. Explosive cannon would be nice to operate via pilot but it would be op as f*ck if we got both.

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SaltyGTAFMember

Neither as both are food for the return of the tank (2069).

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MajorVienna

Voted Savage. It's nice the Savage got the buff but it should get more. It's only just lobby-worthy now. Either give it bombs (never going to happen), carbon props for off radar like the Microlite, more armor, or more speed. If they give it countermeasures then I guess I'd grudgingly accept.

 

If I end up buying the Hunter, it'd be because of the hovering bombing spam capability, as the planes have to fly around for another pass except Tula.

Edited by MajorVienna

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Death Rains From Above

As much as I love my Savage, especially now with the buffed armor, I'm gonna have to admit that the Hunter is the superior chopper here.

 

First off, it's a damn Apache (mostly), who doesn't love Apache helicopters!

 

Second, it's able to drop bombs, making the Hunter both an attack heli AND a bomber.

 

Third, accurate seating placements!

 

Fourth, a gimballed forward gun. Unfortunately it requires a gunner, but if one has friends, that won't be an issue.

 

Last, but certainly not least, the Hunter can launch missile barrages that make the Pharah-main in me extremely happy. :D

 

The only thing I don't like about it is the fact that we're gonna have to wait several weeks at the very least to be able to buy it. Then again, that gives us plenty of time to scrape together the cash to purchase it.

Edited by Death Rains From Above

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Omnifarious

I' surprised to see the Savage and Hunter so close on the poll. Then again, I'm apt to side with the Savage simply because it has a Hydra cannon on the front.

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