Jarl001 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Wt hell am i doing wrong? I cant make any profit. My base incom is 89milion and my expensiv is 89milion. Dont see any high demand money. And in freeroam it take ages to just make 300,000. My higest bet is just to play mission. But i take long time to just make 100,000 I am Ceo and motorcycle president own bunker meth lab a forgury. But dont make money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StangOne50 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) I see alot of people say you can make good money with I/E and doing vip work in between, also joining the random heist finales when you can. Bunker seem decent as well if you just buy supplies and let it fill but then you need friends to help you with the sale. MC businesses seem a waste of time to me. Edited September 1, 2017 by StangOne50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyguns Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) Nope you don't need people to help with the sales. With bikers, if you sell below 1.5 bar of product, you get a single vehicle sale. But I closed my weed farm, the profit was only worth it if you robbed all supplies. Coke & Meth provide good profit even with buying supplies. Bunkers can be done solo too if you want. Just sell below $250,000 level of stock, think that's right. And you get a single vehicle. OP - can you be clearer, I can't see how your post is right. Your saying your income is 89 million & your expenses are 89 million. As for high demand, you get that selling in populated sessions, the more people in there, the higher the bonus. Also, what forgery? Document or money? If it's document forgery you would be better off closing it down. The profits are small even if you steal all supplies. Cash forgery is OK though. Do you have the staff and equipment upgrades in your businesses? If you don't, get them. Edited September 1, 2017 by tommyguns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl001 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 Nope you don't need people to help with the sales. With bikers, if you sell below 1.5 bar of product, you get a single vehicle sale. But I closed my weed farm, the profit was only worth it if you robbed all supplies. Coke & Meth provide good profit even with buying supplies. Bunkers can be done solo too if you want. Just sell below $250,000 level of stock, think that's right. And you get a single vehicle. OP - can you be clearer, I can't see how your post is right. Your saying your income is 89 million & your expenses are 89 million. As for high demand, you get that selling in populated sessions, the more people in there, the higher the bonus. Also, what forgery? Document or money? If it's document forgery you would be better off closing it down. The profits are small even if you steal all supplies. Cash forgery is OK though. Do you have the staff and equipment upgrades in your businesses? If you don't, get them. I got a money forgery. I got all upgrades just not the security but it makes no diferent. I havent seen high demand even if the lobby is full? Think stealing is so borring and take lot off effort. Dont think the buissnes are not worth it the time it takes is not profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyguns Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) If you are not getting the high demand bonus even when selling in sessions with lots of players, that is a bug, open a ticket with R* support & report it. You are doing the Far sales aren't you? Like if your warehouse is in Blaine or paleto, you are selling in los Santos & vice versa? High demand is only for far sales if I remember right. Not to mention, selling in the next county makes you a lot more money. Beyond that I don't see how you can't be making a profit. Five bars of coke sells for $420,000 - Meth for $357,000 I understand that it's maybe a little over 10 supply bars to make 5 bars of stock for those businesses. So minus 'roughly' 150K of supplies, that would mean a profit of around 270k for coke & 207k for Meth Obviously there are staff costs. You can dodge em and reduce the chances of raids by disbanding your MC whenever your not buying or stealing supplies, selling, or doing contracts. While your waiting for product to be made you can do whatever, do biker contracts, missions etc. There are players on here who have made tens, or even 100+ million from their biker businesses. If you have the upgrades, even if you buy all supplies, the coke & meth will make a profit. The thing about gunrunning and biker business is that it's mostly passive. It allows you to go off and do other stuff while product is being made. With other stuff like crates or cars, you need to be there, stealing the crates, stealing the cars, building up your crates for a big sale. Or with cars, steal a car, sell the car, steal another car, sell the car etc etc. If you aren't actively engaged in the work, your not making money. Its a matter of preference. Edited September 1, 2017 by tommyguns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartergaming Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 The least investment way to earn is to do VIP work... Sightseer and Head Hunter with a mission like "Editor and Thief", "Check Out TIme" or "Rockford Roll" between them while waiting on cool down timers... Most the ceo cargo, I/E, biker, business income numbers you see posted are bogus and fail to properly calculate time and expenses... they are a money losers... you are better off doing tge VIP work. It is very helpful to have a Buzzard when doing the VIP work. You can steal one or buy one once you have the money. The gun running, smugglers run are similar in the lack of ability to recover your investments... Rockstar trys to keep payouts at around an average of $100,000 per hour or less to encourage the purchase of shark cards. Do VIP work and missions... unless there are good double money events.... VIP work is the best way to earn ... maybe that is why you see so many youtube videos on "money glitches". 0CypherP and J-Scott-D 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseltech20 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 5 businesses with infinite supplies pays pretty good. A group of dedicated, like minded friends makes the sales a breeze, even with full stock. They also make bunker sales pretty easy. chef_archie and SHOKKERZ91 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggsAndJam Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) Import Export is your best bet. It's 20k to uprgade a car once it's been sourced, and then it's an 80k payout on delivery, so 60k profit. You can source & sell 3 cars per hour on average, so roughly 180k profit per hour or so Buy; Maze Bank West apartment La Mesa vehicle Warehouse Use the 10, 10, 12 method Source, Sell, Sightseer - repeat Edited September 2, 2017 by sleepwalk1980 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl001 Posted September 2, 2017 Author Share Posted September 2, 2017 Okey whats the payout when you have bodygards? Is it less if you solo? The motorcycle bodygards get like 5000 for resupliy thats bad. I dont think i will buy car warehous. All that i bought is with shark cards i bought 1 megalon shark cards 60usd that is one overpriced and i regreat it. Dont think i even have made a milion. Can we discuss money glitch here or is it against forum rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyguns Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) erm, I really don't understand what smarter gaming is on about. I had a long 18 month break from GTA, when I returned last Christmas, I migrated to XB1. My character carries over 3.2 million, earned from long hours of grinding contact missions mostly. I had a high end apartment at Richards majestic. A Turismo R, a armored kuruma, a voltic, a buffalo, Bati, and a couple of other vehicles. Pegasus wise, I just had my Besra. Now I have a clubhouse, the Lombank office with accommodation, old spice warm & executive garage. The LA Puerta vehicle warehouse. A Bunker. A Zancudo Hanger. A weed farm that I closed down. My personal garages are full of super, sports, and sports classics, along with at least a couplenof the best vehicles in each other class. I have Insurgents, regular, pegasus, and custom. I have the weaponised Tampa with all upgrades. A Ruiner 2K & blazer aqua. A Buzzard, a Rogue, a cargobob Jetsam. There is other stuff I'm not listing to save space and time. And I've got $16 million sat in my account....all of this stuff bought legit with money made from the businesses that smartergaming calls 'money losers' Edited September 2, 2017 by tommyguns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pptz84 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 The least investment way to earn is to do VIP work... Sightseer and Head Hunter with a mission like "Editor and Thief", "Check Out TIme" or "Rockford Roll" between them while waiting on cool down timers... Most the ceo cargo, I/E, biker, business income numbers you see posted are bogus and fail to properly calculate time and expenses... they are a money losers... you are better off doing tge VIP work. It is very helpful to have a Buzzard when doing the VIP work. You can steal one or buy one once you have the money. The gun running, smugglers run are similar in the lack of ability to recover your investments... Rockstar trys to keep payouts at around an average of $100,000 per hour or less to encourage the purchase of shark cards. Do VIP work and missions... unless there are good double money events.... VIP work is the best way to earn ... maybe that is why you see so many youtube videos on "money glitches". Yeah, three years ago VIP work was the best way to make money indeed... As is the 100.000 per hour. Hécate-II 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pptz84 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Okey whats the payout when you have bodygards? Is it less if you solo? The motorcycle bodygards get like 5000 for resupliy thats bad. I dont think i will buy car warehous. All that i bought is with shark cards i bought 1 megalon shark cards 60usd that is one overpriced and i regreat it. Dont think i even have made a milion. Can we discuss money glitch here or is it against forum rule? - every 2,5 hour you can sell your bunker product that's made from one full bar of supplies, gives 210.000 if sold in Los Santos - buy the supplies for the Meth, supply mission costs too much time, sell when 1.5 - 2 bars of product if solo - you don't pay the bodyguards if that's what you were thinking. - ignore the forgery, not worth the time. - if you DO want to make money, I would advice to buy the vehicle warehouse. It makes a lot more money than biker business, contact missions etc. But it's your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl001 Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 problem is is that suppliy is thaking a lot of time. And i play alone. 1 milion is nothing when everything cost 1 miljon! And uppgrades cars cost half milion! Think that contact missions is the best vr time and payout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pptz84 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 problem is is that suppliy is thaking a lot of time. And i play alone. 1 milion is nothing when everything cost 1 miljon! And uppgrades cars cost half milion! Think that contact missions is the best vr time and payout. Ok... you think you don't earn enough money, but don't listen to the advices. That's up to you. If you don't want to make investments and are not bored of the contact missions and VIP work, you can keep doing that. Best for time and payout is Import/Export, but that needs an investment of 1.5 - 2.8 million for a vehicle warehouse. The supply missions indeed take a lot of time, but you can also buy them for the meth and the bunker, and use the time to do something that earns more money (ideally import/export, but in your case if you don't want to change things: missions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Spanky Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Import Export is your best bet. It's 20k to uprgade a car once it's been sourced, and then it's an 80k payout on delivery, so 60k profit. You can source & sell 3 cars per hour on average, so roughly 180k profit per hour or so Buy; Maze Bank West apartment La Mesa vehicle Warehouse Use the 10, 10, 12 method Source, Sell, Sightseer - repeat Slight error in your calculations To sell a top range car to a specialist buyer, costs $20,000 But, the payout is $100,000, leaving $80,000 profit You appear to have deducted the initial $20,000 twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggsAndJam Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) Slight error in your calculationsTo sell a top range car to a specialist buyer, costs $20,000 But, the payout is $100,000, leaving $80,000 profit You appear to have deducted the initial $20,000 twice Yup, I did problem is is that suppliy is thaking a lot of time. And i play alone. 1 milion is nothing when everything cost 1 miljon! And uppgrades cars cost half milion! Think that contact missions is the best vr time and payout. Well if you don't want to bother putting in the time then why are you even asking? You won't get any help with money drops or glitches here. There's other website for that. Contact mission are not the best payout by a VERY long margin. Import Export is time and again proven the best money maker for solo players. But do as you will Edited September 5, 2017 by sleepwalk1980 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechanicMammal Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 My money mostly comes from heisting with friends, but if I'm solo I tend to try out which ever mode is paying 2x cash. I avoid trying to make money in free mode it does not work for me, I own all the biker, CEO, bunker, hanger and import export properties and have dabbled in using them to make cash but generally do not bother with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Spanky Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 My money mostly comes from heisting with friends, but if I'm solo I tend to try out which ever mode is paying 2x cash. I avoid trying to make money in free mode it does not work for me, I own all the biker, CEO, bunker, hanger and import export properties and have dabbled in using them to make cash but generally do not bother with them. If you can't make serious money doing I/E work,you are doing it wrong EggsAndJam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggsAndJam Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Even in a full lobby that sounds like WW2 in the distance, I can make money selling IE cars easy. You gotta pick your routes carefully. La Mesa Warehouse gives you some lovely highway access. It's easy to nip up into Vinewood Hills to make drops. Anything on the other side of the map, just plan your route to avoid those player blips. If someone comes after you in aircraft, they're easy to avoid. Keep an eye on their blip and make lots of turns and deviations. If they come after you in a land vehicle then concentrate on your driving. Drive well and sooner or later your pursuer will f*ck up. They'll be too busy trying to drive and shoot at the same time that they'll crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwdrinkwaterjr Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I put all my cash on my second character and source all my top range one day to avoid repair costs. Then sell everything in one four hour shot. Just under one million for the cars, and like 800k for the VIP jobs done on the I/E cooldown. So, I think it was two hours to source 12 cars, plus 4 hours to sell. The sourcing was all back to back. 1.8 million divided by 6 hours is 300k an hour. That's as good as I've done so far because I am only using my bunker for research right now. Even at full production however, it will still only bump up the bottom line to like 340k for that same amount of time. kidtwist81 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidtwist81 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 You need to reinstall your pebkac file. That is why you arent making any money clearly. I ran a scan through this thread just now and it is the only viable solution I can think of considering the advice you have been given by those clearly smarter than me, or you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WannaDJ Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 You need to invest in a vehicle warehouse (if you don't have one), Import/Export it's pretty much the best solo money method out there, you can mix it with your bunker and meth lab, buying supplies, and while your guns/meth it's being produced you can do Import/Export. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi22 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Get Vehicle warehouse, after that Coke factory, uprage it. Then stop Meth lab operating, you get more from exporting car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyguns Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 The OP hasn't posted in over a month Your offering advice that was already given, and given in more detail And the OP rejected all that advice, thinking they knew better. Leave the topic to die!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlk232 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 No free roam, repeat it with me, no free roam. It is a money suck bc it was designed to be so. Get a solo lobby public and just get really good at 2 or 3 things. You said heists, that's 1, I recommend gunrunning and coke for the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...