EggsAndJam Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I can only afford one. I've flown both stock. Edging towards the Nokota atm. Not flown either upgraded. Obviously we won't know what the Nokota is like fully upgraded. I've heard not so good things about the upgraded Rogue. So which to get? Advice is welcome. Nossirag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHADOW OPS Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I say Nokota due to fast firing homing launcher missiles. AUScowboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdv95 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Rogue is a beast when in a dogfight fully upgraded. It can eat hydra's and molotoks by a decent pilot. Nokota is the same story. Both are great against anything else in the sky,but when pitted against eachother it's realy a matter of the pilot. Just be sure to take the sport handling for the rogue if you go with that one. Wastelander (Suzuki) and Nossirag 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Just be sure to take the sport handling for the rogue if you go with that one. Why, what does the sport handling do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggsAndJam Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 I'm not overly fussed about how good the weapon systems are, more the handling. f*ck it, I'll probably save up and buy both jdv95 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdv95 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Just be sure to take the sport handling for the rogue if you go with that one. Why, what does the sport handling do? it's the best handling for that plane. race just wants to crash you. Even if you know how to manage it,it's a bit to much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Just be sure to take the sport handling for the rogue if you go with that one. Why, what does the sport handling do? it's the best handling for that plane. race just wants to crash you. Even if you know how to manage it,it's a bit to much. But what's it actually doing? Game's files suggest Handling is increasing braking performance (which it doesn't) and it isn't affecting anything else on the Alpha-Z1 or Molotok (two I've tested extensively). Goingcrowd9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince_Polaris Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 For 4 or 5 million (because upgrades) the nokota is just a plane that's a little bit better than the Hydra and Lazer. Meanwhile, the Rogue can be had for about 2 million (kuz upgrades) and it's a good bit better! Boom cannons and all that stuff. Goingcrowd9, Nossirag, EggsAndJam and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfonzius Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Personally for me the Molotok would also be an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdRatherBeFlying Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) Just be sure to take the sport handling for the rogue if you go with that one. Why, what does the sport handling do? it's the best handling for that plane. race just wants to crash you. Even if you know how to manage it,it's a bit to much. You can tame race mode with enough practice: http://gtaforums.com/topic/895343-western-rogue/page-2?do=findComment&comment=1069815506 Edited September 1, 2017 by IdRatherBeFlying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBSanta Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I bought the Rogue and it's a pretty cool plane. I put all the upgrades on it so it has explosive rounds on the main cannon plus homing missiles, bombs, and countermeasures. It's very agile but a bit twitchy with the race handling. It's also a very good looking plane. If you can afford it, I recommend it. Goingcrowd9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggsAndJam Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) Personally for me the Molotok would also be an option. I just can't. Call me superficial but it looks weird. Edited September 1, 2017 by sleepwalk1980 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Smith187 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Will the Nokota be able to drop bombs? The Rogue can, and that's a plus. Still gotta get the timing right on dropping them, but boy is it fun as hell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Will the Nokota be able to drop bombs? The Rogue can, and that's a plus. Still gotta get the timing right on dropping them, but boy is it fun as hell... Nope, only missiles, drop tanks, 10 liveries, countermeasures and the usual Engine/ Handling/ Armour upgrades. Nossirag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfonzius Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Personally for me the Molotok would also be an option. I just can't. Call me superficial but it looks weird. Thought something was missing when I saw it first, but using it in the mission made me like it more and more. Just do not look behind you while flying, it is not recommended anyway. Goingcrowd9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdRatherBeFlying Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Will the Nokota be able to drop bombs? The Rogue can, and that's a plus. Still gotta get the timing right on dropping them, but boy is it fun as hell... Nope, only missiles, drop tanks, 10 liveries, countermeasures and the usual Engine/ Handling/ Armour upgrades. Wait, no cannon? Then the Rogue will probably remain the dogfigher of choice. Nossirag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Smith187 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) Will the Nokota be able to drop bombs? The Rogue can, and that's a plus. Still gotta get the timing right on dropping them, but boy is it fun as hell... Nope, only missiles, drop tanks, 10 liveries, countermeasures and the usual Engine/ Handling/ Armour upgrades. Wait, no cannon? Then the Rogue will probably remain the dogfigher of choice. ... no cannon or bombs... looks like I made the right choice with the Rogue then lol Btw, what do the drop tanks do? Edited September 1, 2017 by Mr.Smith187 Nossirag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79'Blazer4x4 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Will the Nokota be able to drop bombs? The Rogue can, and that's a plus. Still gotta get the timing right on dropping them, but boy is it fun as hell... Nope, only missiles, drop tanks, 10 liveries, countermeasures and the usual Engine/ Handling/ Armour upgrades. Wait, no cannon? Then the Rogue will probably remain the dogfigher of choice. There are 6 wing mounted .50 cals(3 on each wing) on the Nokota. They're not explosive, but they're damn good considering, It took no time at all for me to shoot down about 10 NPC Lazers with just the guns during the source mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delorianlazarus Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 The canons of the Nokota might look good at first, but when facing explosive rounds from the Rogue (not even mentionning the Hydra), it's everything but competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLordMarvel Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 It all depends on what you're wanting the plane for. If it's to fight other players on ground, then maybe the Rogue will be the best choice, cause of the explosive rounds. Both are probably equal in dogfights, maybe slightly tipping in the favor of the Nokota due to the firerate. I'm honestly in the same boat as the OP right now. - I like how cheap the Rogue is compared other aircraft, but I love the styling of the Nokota. I could afford both, but I don't like spending so much money. Plus I want to keep enough money for the Hunter. Hmm. Davisbruh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davisbruh Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) It all depends on what you're wanting the plane for. If it's to fight other players on ground, then maybe the Rogue will be the best choice, cause of the explosive rounds. Both are probably equal in dogfights, maybe slightly tipping in the favor of the Nokota due to the firerate. I'm honestly in the same boat as the OP right now. - I like how cheap the Rogue is compared other aircraft, but I love the styling of the Nokota. I could afford both, but I don't like spending so much money. Plus I want to keep enough money for the Hunter. Hmm. If the Nokota had explosive cannons then this choice would be so much easier Edited September 2, 2017 by Davisbruh TheLordMarvel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsaf3Mang0 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) Both planes are equally deadly in the right hands. The Rogue lacks in missile upgrades but has better primary upgrades to compensate; compared to the Nakota which is capable of overwhelming pilots with it's rapid fire missiles. Rogue: The rogue has the best mobility out compared many other fighter planes. It is capable to take sharp turns by just using the rudder, and can use this to dodge homing missiles tapping each bumper to cause the plane to shake the missile past you. It's weapons can be very effective with practice, you are able to upgrade it's primary into explosive machine guns and secondary into dual shot missiles which helps to prevent enemies from attempting to escape mid dogfight. Negatives: I dislike the Rogue's landing capability. The airplane is pretty bad at low speeds, It just doesn't seem to want to leave the ground or stay in the air. When taking off you need to make sure you have a fairly open strip to get the wheels off the ground and pull the gear in, as having the wheels out drastically reduces the speed and mobility. It will nose dive even if you have engines at full throttle many times causing premature touch downs and damage to the plane. Nakota: The Nakota on the other hand has the advantage in it's secondary weapon choices compared to the Rogue. While they don't share the sane primary weapon customizations. The Nakota has slightly increased rates of machine gun fire (not explosive rounds) giving it a higher chance of hitting the target. Not only does it have increased primary fire, the Nakota has a lock-on missile upgrade that can be fired multiple times without cooldown. Negatives: The Nakota has less mobility compared to the Rogue. This will eventually cause the rogue to cut tighter corners, swooping inside loops and getting behind you. So now if two pilots with the same skill were to dogfight against each other. The Nakota has the advantage at the start, eventually they will pass each other and both pilots will loop back and attempt to get behind the other pilot. While the Nakota is looping back the Rogue could possibly already be on your inside loop. Only choice for the Nakota is to try jerking him around to make him overextend a turn or to attempt to slow the Nakota to it's landing speed. If the Rogue doesn't have time to get a shot on you he will either shoot pass you or try to slow down which could easily lead to a crash. In my opinion I would say the Rogue though, agility and primary weapons are the most important flying variables used in GTA 5. If you can stay out of their crosshairs and get behind them faster, better missiles aren't necessary? Edited November 6, 2017 by Unsaf3Mang0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whywontyoulisten Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Nakota Gentlemen, we have a new "Karuma". Mattoropael, kovaandr, Pedinhuh and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoropael Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) It all depends on what you're wanting the plane for. If it's to fight other players on ground, then maybe the Rogue will be the best choice, cause of the explosive rounds. Both are probably equal in dogfights, maybe slightly tipping in the favor of the Nokota due to the firerate. The fact that Rogue has explosive rounds while Nokota doesn't seals the deal about dogfights. Rogue only needs a few shots at most to connect while Nokota can spray all it wants ineffectually. Rogue's explosive cannons are decent for air-to-air, but absolute sh*t against ground targets if you're used to the sheer destructive power of Lazer/Hydra cannons. Better than the Nokota, yes, but not ideal either. Both planes are equally deadly in the right hands. The Rogue lacks in weapon upgrades but has better mobility to compensate, compared to the Nakota. While the Nakota can overwhelm a pilot with it's rapid fire missiles. I stopped reading right there. Against competent dogfighting aircraft or aircraft with similar agility (Lazer, Hydra, Molotok, Besra, Rogue, etc.), you need a sh*t pilot as your opponent for aircraft-carried missiles (with their sh*t tracking) to be anything but a joke, or more than a distraction to stop the other guy from flying in a straight line to pull away from you. Edited September 13, 2017 by Mattoropael Smooth Longsack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon92x Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 For someone who has gotten the chance to fly both, which one is faster in a straight line? Can someone share times from a straight-line air race? I need a capable aircraft that can take me from my hangar to my bunker as quickly as possible (for grinding purposes). Also, it sounds like the Nokota is better at taking-off and landing on short airstrips? m2roadwarrior 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre "2K" Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I dunno, those Nokota missiles get the job done, already taken a few hot pink Hydras out trying the whole spinning in circles thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPRF12345 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) In my opinion, the Rogue is better. Here's why: -Is cheaper -Has a higher top speed -Has a better turning curve -Holds 2 passengers (the nokota can only transport 1) -Can be equipped with bombs Though the Nokota has a better accelaration and fires continuos missiles, without having to reload Edited February 24, 2018 by MPRF12345 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The First Hunter Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 What's with all these necros today? Is it the international Necro day? Bloodytears1666 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodytears1666 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 What's with all these necros today? Is it the international Necro day? Easy, this thread has some Rogue love, no shame to bump it:). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
