Gta Online timeline discussion thread.

[0CypherP]

Ok,so Gta O originally took place 6 months before Gta V,when looking at the storyline we have in the background of Gta Online events we can see a few inconsistencies if we look at it thinking about GTA V story mode,making lot of players to consider Gta online completely non canon,or only some events canon,but what events we can take as canon?

So basically,canonically our Character did Contact missions,lowrider missions,Securoserv business in general,Bikers business in general,Bunker business,Smuggler's run stuff and heists,not in that order obviously.How he did it is not relevant,and completely optional since there are many ways of doing the same mission,so it is something personal of each player.

Stunt races,adv modes,crazy deathmatchs,stuff like that don't take it as canon events since there is no backstory in these stuff,and the ones that have are fanfics.

Ok so lets start with the inconsistencies.

At the start of Gta V we can see some news in the Internet,it is saying that Merryweather started operating in LS,and well we can see them on GTA O six months before so this is an developer oversight.

Trevor follows the Lost MC in his first mission because he doesn't know where they are going,and well he tell us six months before to come at Stab City,so he was mostly likely making sure they were coming there

Trevor states that he never came to LS before while going to LS to meet Michael,and well he comes there to meet up with the player to talk about Series A,so basically he meant that he never ''really'' came there,last time was for business,not as an tourist,he didn't had time to appreciate LS.

Benny garage is not in SP,indicating either that we advanced in timeline,or R* is 2 lazy to add it to SP,personally i pretend it is there and it is all right.

Lester states that the Union Depository was never sucefully raided,in Import Export we help some guys steal it,so mostly likely the governement covered it up,or this happened after the Big Score in Gta V,or it is basically non canon.

Bunkers around the city,well we can't see those bunkers in SP,so we either advanced in timeline or R* is 2 lazy to make some map changes in SP,i take the second option and pretend these Bunker are there.

Agent 14 states that it is 2017 in Mole Hunt,this doesn't works so well since at the end of GTA V merryweather lost their governement contract and stoped operating in the US soil,also from 2013 to 2017 these building in construction are not finished yet?i can't pretend they are already completed basically because in Smuggler's run we go there,so i consider that an Dev oversight,lets just pretend he said 2013.

Ron being the Character partner in the last DLC makes completely sense if we consider that it is 2017 right?well not exactly since we see Merryweather a few times in this DLC,so i think he mostly likely felt alone when Trevor went to LS during the campaing,right when he is living at floyd apartment,Ron feeling alone accepts working with our character secretly without Trevor knowing about it.

So i would say that Gta Online Smuggler's run takes place during Gta v Campaing,Gunrunning takes place during the start of it,anything before that happened during the six months before gta v.

That is my opinion of course,what is yours?would you change anything from my way of seeing the timeline,do you see it in another way?is there any question about the background story we have in Gta Online?

Share it here .

[General_Z]

Its 2017, dont lie to yourself, ITS 2017!!!!! IN GTAO !!!!!!!!! merryweather are probably just operating illegally, we do plenty of illegal sh*t so I wouldnt put it past them

[0CypherP]

Its 2017, dont lie to yourself, ITS 2017!!!!! IN GTAO !!!!!!!!! merryweather are probably just operating illegally, we do plenty of illegal sh*t so I wouldnt put it past them

Yeah it were one of my theorys,but how the hell they are operating illegally in the docks?after story mode they stay there but it is an Oversight,but on online we literally raid the docks to get an Railgun.

[SinZer0s]

Early 2013:

-Arrival

-Some contact missions

-Lowriders

-More contact missions

-Heists

 

Late 2013

-GTAO protagonist goes quiet for a while

-GTA V story happens

-GTAO protagonist decides it's time to stand up from the couch

 

2014, 2015 and 2016

-GTAO protagonist starts looking for businesses to invest in because he is a greedy f*ck

-GTAO protagonist decides to invest in a business that suits his personality so far there's only 3 businesses that don't affect the story (Crates, vehicles and biker business)

-He/she makes the business grow and gets even more money in the process

 

2017

-Agent 14 calls and the GTAO protagonist buys a bunker thinking also that it's a good opportunity to make even more money

-Ron calls and the GTAO protagonist buys a hangar for again making more money (Trevor has also apparently started to make some changes in his life according to Ron)

-Doomsday heist

 

2018

-To be added

Edited December 21, 2017 by Darkshadows

[0CypherP]

Early 2013:

-Arrival

-Some contact missions

-Lowriders

-More contact missions

-Heists

 

Late 2013

-GTAO protagonist goes quiet for a while

-GTA V story happens

-GTAO protagonist decides it's time to stand up from the couch

 

2014, 2015 and 2016

-GTAO protagonist starts looking for businesses to invest in because he is a greedy f*ck

-GTAO protagonist decides to invest in a business that suits his personality so far there's only 3 businesses that don't affect the story (Crates, vehicles and biker business)

-He/she makes the business grow and gets even more money in the process

 

2017

-Agent 14 calls and the GTAO protagonist buys a bunker thinking also that it's a good opportunity to make even more money

-Ron calls and the GTAO protagonist buys a hangar for again making more money (Trevor has also apparently started to make some changes in his life according to Ron)

 

End of 2017 and 2018

-To be added

Ok good to see someone has an little of imagination remaining in the head,but if Bikers/I/E happens after story mode,why stab city is still intact?also that o'neil house hostage mission?what about these construction sites,from 2013 to 2017 they couldn't finish it?,also i think the DLCS happens chronologically in the order they were released.(only mentioning,we go directly there in these locations during specific missions,so it is not an dev oversight regarding the map changes)

Edited September 1, 2017 by 0CypherP

[IGPlay]

Based on what Ron said, I think the current DLC is placed after story mode events just like GR.

It's interesting to know that Trevor survives and becomes a guru lol.

[0CypherP]

Based on what Ron said, I think the current DLC is placed after story mode events just like GR.

It's interesting to know that Trevor survives and becomes a guru lol.

Yeah it could happen after the story mode too,but i can't just stand that it happens in 2017,it just doesn't make any sense to me

[-LN-]

GTA Online isn't canonical; instead think of it as millions of different alternate realities that each happen to include many of the same characters from the SP game and of course, the same geographical location.

 

Trying to organise the scripted content from online into an established canonical timeline will only lead to frustration and pre-mature grey hair.

[0CypherP]

GTA Online isn't canonical; instead think of it as millions of different alternate realities that each happen to include many of the same characters from the SP game and of course, the same geographical location.

 

Trying to organise the scripted content from online into an established canonical timeline will only lead to frustration and pre-mature grey hair.

yeah,pretty stupid to try to put some sense in the background story of an game that the developers don't really care about story but only about flying motorcycles that can shoot rockets at people,it is just an fan thing,yo know.

[SinZer0s]

 

Early 2013:

-Arrival

-Some contact missions

-Lowriders

-More contact missions

-Heists

 

Late 2013

-GTAO protagonist goes quiet for a while

-GTA V story happens

-GTAO protagonist decides it's time to stand up from the couch

 

2014, 2015 and 2016

-GTAO protagonist starts looking for businesses to invest in because he is a greedy f*ck

-GTAO protagonist decides to invest in a business that suits his personality so far there's only 3 businesses that don't affect the story (Crates, vehicles and biker business)

-He/she makes the business grow and gets even more money in the process

 

2017

-Agent 14 calls and the GTAO protagonist buys a bunker thinking also that it's a good opportunity to make even more money

-Ron calls and the GTAO protagonist buys a hangar for again making more money (Trevor has also apparently started to make some changes in his life according to Ron)

 

End of 2017 and 2018

-To be added

Ok good to see someone has an little of imagination remaining in the head,but if Bikers/I/E happens after story mode,why stab city is still intact?also that o'neil house hostage mission?what about these construction sites,from 2013 to 2017 they couldn't finish it?,also i think the DLCS happens chronologically in the order they were released.(only mentioning,we go directly there in these locations during specific missions,so it is not an dev oversight regarding the map changes)

 

At the start of GTAO all that stuff didn't happen yet. GTAO gets a lot of new players daily which means they're still in early 2013 but we are already in the last part of the timeline so far

 

Rockstar would have to create new maps specifically made for new players and veterans (changing the big construction site would also create some issues with gang attacks and stuff)

 

It's kind of weird but veteran players are playing in 2017 LS in a way and new players are arriving at 2013 LS

[0CypherP]

 

 

Early 2013:

-Arrival

-Some contact missions

-Lowriders

-More contact missions

-Heists

 

Late 2013

-GTAO protagonist goes quiet for a while

-GTA V story happens

-GTAO protagonist decides it's time to stand up from the couch

 

2014, 2015 and 2016

-GTAO protagonist starts looking for businesses to invest in because he is a greedy f*ck

-GTAO protagonist decides to invest in a business that suits his personality so far there's only 3 businesses that don't affect the story (Crates, vehicles and biker business)

-He/she makes the business grow and gets even more money in the process

 

2017

-Agent 14 calls and the GTAO protagonist buys a bunker thinking also that it's a good opportunity to make even more money

-Ron calls and the GTAO protagonist buys a hangar for again making more money (Trevor has also apparently started to make some changes in his life according to Ron)

 

End of 2017 and 2018

-To be added

Ok good to see someone has an little of imagination remaining in the head,but if Bikers/I/E happens after story mode,why stab city is still intact?also that o'neil house hostage mission?what about these construction sites,from 2013 to 2017 they couldn't finish it?,also i think the DLCS happens chronologically in the order they were released.(only mentioning,we go directly there in these locations during specific missions,so it is not an dev oversight regarding the map changes)

 

At the start of GTAO all that stuff didn't happen yet. GTAO gets a lot of new players daily which means they're still in early 2013 but we are already in the last part of the timeline so far

 

Rockstar would have to create new maps specifically made for new players and veterans (changing the big construction site would also create some issues with gang attacks and stuff)

 

It's kind of weird but veteran players are playing in 2017 LS in a way and new players are arriving at 2013 LS

 

No,you didn't understand my point,i understand about why they won't make map changes,but like,in your way of seeing the timeline you said Bikers takes place on 2015,what would perfectly make sense,but we directly raid the O'Neils house in this DLC,we go to Stab City too,and in Smuggler's run we go to that big construction site,it would make sense to think that these stuff being there is non canon to our veteran Character and only to these new noobs,as long they weren't used in missions from the last DLCS it would make sense,but they are directly used on missions.

[M*A*R*I*N*A]

No and it IS 2017.

[pie4july]

Agent 14 is Steve Hanes. I killed that mother f*cker in 2013. How is he and Trevor around in 2017? Only way is if R* is assuming players did the kill Michael to save Trevor/Franklin thing which is bullsh*t tbh

[0CypherP]

Agent 14 is Steve Hanes. I killed that mother f*cker in 2013. How is he and Trevor around in 2017? Only way is if R* is assuming players did the kill Michael to save Trevor/Franklin thing which is bullsh*t tbh

Uhh,no?Agent 14 and Steve Haines are completely different,to start,their organization,Agent 14 is from IAA and Steve is from FIB,their face,voice,clothing,try to look for an Agent 14/Steve Haines image on the google and you will see the difference,it is brutal.

[SinZer0s]

 

At the start of GTAO all that stuff didn't happen yet. GTAO gets a lot of new players daily which means they're still in early 2013 but we are already in the last part of the timeline so far

 

 

Rockstar would have to create new maps specifically made for new players and veterans (changing the big construction site would also create some issues with gang attacks and stuff)

 

It's kind of weird but veteran players are playing in 2017 LS in a way and new players are arriving at 2013 LS

 

No,you didn't understand my point,i understand about why they won't make map changes,but like,in your way of seeing the timeline you said Bikers takes place on 2015,what would perfectly make sense,but we directly raid the O'Neils house in this DLC,we go to Stab City too,and in Smuggler's run we go to that big construction site,it would make sense to think that these stuff being there is non canon to our veteran Character and only to these new noobs,as long they weren't used in missions from the last DLCS it would make sense,but they are directly used on missions.

 

Yeah the problem is that Rockstar sometimes forgets their own timeline. They saw that we were going crazy about agent 14's 2017 dialogue and they basically confirmed it in smuggler's run (damage control lol)

 

I don't see how bikers could happen before story mode though since the character wouldn't have enough money to set up a big business like that yet so we got the first plot hole there

[0CypherP]

I see,i am not on my pc,mobile is sht,i will try to tell how i see the timeline with lots of details later,also it could be possible that ron was feeling alone while trevor were with floyd,or after trevor goes to vanilla unicorn,i can even see it happening a while after gta v,but not in 2017,anyway feeling abandoned ron started working with the online protagonist.

Edited September 1, 2017 by 0CypherP

[J1M]

GTA Online isn't canonical; instead think of it as millions of different alternate realities that each happen to include many of the same characters from the SP game and of course, the same geographical location.

 

Trying to organise the scripted content from online into an established canonical timeline will only lead to frustration and pre-mature grey hair.

 

I agree.

 

If GTAO's "story" didn't seem tacked on with lazy one-way scripts written by a parodist during weekend overtime sessions, we wouldn't even need this thread to try and glue it together.

 

After losing the last bit of "story-mode respect" I had for R* and GTAO while enduring Ron's pathetic Smuggler cutscenes the other day, I played through a bit of the GTA V story from the start, just to remind myself what some of these characters were like with a bit of inspiration and effort.

 

 

 

I saw the "GTAO Characters Elimination Game" and the final showdown was between Agent 14 and the Mechanic? Did the mechanic even get a cutscene in GTAO or is that his advantage in this situation?

 

Couldn't find a "Cutscene Elimination Game" yet, but I think the only cutscene I can think of that's not pushing cringe-worthy or well past it is the assistant introducing the I/E warehouse.

 

 

[Sanches]

We should agree that Online is not canonical.

But this leaves the question about Lester mentions our Online characters in SP one time by saying "I've been working with someone, but they're too unpredictable". But it's not 100% true if he's talking about Online characters or not.

Edited September 1, 2017 by Sanches

[MayoChiki]

Online's story has nothing to do with GTAV and considering the inconsistencies, Online is an alternate timeline.

 

Apparently Franklin wasn't doing repo jobs for Simeon in this timeline, since Lamar never mentioned him, but Simeon still knew who Lamar is. Gerald is more active while he didn't seem to exist back in V. Franklin didn't meet Michael and Madrazo never mentioned something about his house in Rockford Hills being destroyed, so we can assume Michael didn't take it down and the Vangelico job never happened. This also leads to Trevor not knowing about Michael still being alive. Lester runs a series of heists alongside the Online character, but never hits the Union Depository so he doesn't retire and instead moves to the MC drug business.

 

Lamar mentioned Franklin during one of his missions, so he was still on Davis being a low-life thug. Also, Molly, Jay Norris and Tao Cheng are clients for I/E cars, so they're obviously still alive. Steve Haines' show is airing, so he's most likely alive. I know it's all because Rockstar doesn't give a sh*t about storytelling for Online and it's all a disaster, but if you're trying to find an explanation, then the most logical is that Online happens in a world where the events of V never happened.

 

Of course, the Online character is mentioned on V, so my only guess is that our characters took different paths.

 

Online: they become CEOs with flying bikes

GTAV: they're just small time criminals who did nothing relevant

[Rykjeklut]

Basically after the Heist DLC, some strange cosmic event split the two timelines apart, where one of them (GTAO) went in a completely different direction than the other one(V), thanks to the very laws of nature and reality being altered.

 

That's my take on it anyway.

[REXX]

I think the timeline is irrelevent now and I believe Rockstar oversaw a lot of things.

[Supreme Leader]

really nice

[Partajeesus]

Agent 14 is Steve Hanes. I killed that mother f*cker in 2013. How is he and Trevor around in 2017? Only way is if R* is assuming players did the kill Michael to save Trevor/Franklin thing which is bullsh*t tbh

 

Or you just choose the third option (death wish) before the last missions and everyone lives.

[0CypherP]

We should agree that Online is not canonical.

But this leaves the question about Lester mentions our Online characters in SP one time by saying "I've been working with someone, but they're too unpredictable". But it's not 100% true if he's talking about Online characters or not.

 

Franklin mentions Lamar scheme of stealing tankers,except for this mention and the one Lester did there is no proof about the existence of our character in the main universe

 

Online's story has nothing to do with GTAV and considering the inconsistencies, Online is an alternate timeline.

 

Apparently Franklin wasn't doing repo jobs for Simeon in this timeline, since Lamar never mentioned him, but Simeon still knew who Lamar is. Gerald is more active while he didn't seem to exist back in V. Franklin didn't meet Michael and Madrazo never mentioned something about his house in Rockford Hills being destroyed, so we can assume Michael didn't take it down and the Vangelico job never happened. This also leads to Trevor not knowing about Michael still being alive. Lester runs a series of heists alongside the Online character, but never hits the Union Depository so he doesn't retire and instead moves to the MC drug business.

 

Lamar mentioned Franklin during one of his missions, so he was still on Davis being a low-life thug. Also, Molly, Jay Norris and Tao Cheng are clients for I/E cars, so they're obviously still alive. Steve Haines' show is airing, so he's most likely alive. I know it's all because Rockstar doesn't give a sh*t about storytelling for Online and it's all a disaster, but if you're trying to find an explanation, then the most logical is that Online happens in a world where the events of V never happened.

 

Of course, the Online character is mentioned on V, so my only guess is that our characters took different paths.

 

Online: they become CEOs with flying bikes

GTAV: they're just small time criminals who did nothing relevant

It is possible,we can see Gerald on lifeinvader if i remember correctly,steve haines show is just reused content,since rockstar is too lazy to create different shows for online

[pie4july]

 

Agent 14 is Steve Hanes. I killed that mother f*cker in 2013. How is he and Trevor around in 2017? Only way is if R* is assuming players did the kill Michael to save Trevor/Franklin thing which is bullsh*t tbh

Uhh,no?Agent 14 and Steve Haines are completely different,to start,their organization,Agent 14 is from IAA and Steve is from FIB,their face,voice,clothing,try to look for an Agent 14/Steve Haines image on the google and you will see the difference,it is brutal.

 

Are you kidding me? Listen to their voices lmao

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 1, 2017 by pie4july

[0CypherP]

 

GTA Online isn't canonical; instead think of it as millions of different alternate realities that each happen to include many of the same characters from the SP game and of course, the same geographical location.

Trying to organise the scripted content from online into an established canonical timeline will only lead to frustration and pre-mature grey hair.

 

I agree.

 

If GTAO's "story" didn't seem tacked on with lazy one-way scripts written by a parodist during weekend overtime sessions, we wouldn't even need this thread to try and glue it together.

 

After losing the last bit of "story-mode respect" I had for R* and GTAO while enduring Ron's pathetic Smuggler cutscenes the other day, I played through a bit of the GTA V story from the start, just to remind myself what some of these characters were like with a bit of inspiration and effort.

 

 

 

I saw the "GTAO Characters Elimination Game" and the final showdown was between Agent 14 and the Mechanic? Did the mechanic even get a cutscene in GTAO or is that his advantage in this situation?

 

Couldn't find a "Cutscene Elimination Game" yet, but I think the only cutscene I can think of that's not pushing cringe-worthy or well past it is the assistant introducing the I/E warehouse.

 

 

nope johnny on the spot never had an cutscene,unfortunately.

[Conici]

Agent 14 is Steve Hanes.

What the f*ck

[0CypherP]

 

 

Agent 14 is Steve Hanes. I killed that mother f*cker in 2013. How is he and Trevor around in 2017? Only way is if R* is assuming players did the kill Michael to save Trevor/Franklin thing which is bullsh*t tbh

Uhh,no?Agent 14 and Steve Haines are completely different,to start,their organization,Agent 14 is from IAA and Steve is from FIB,their face,voice,clothing,try to look for an Agent 14/Steve Haines image on the google and you will see the difference,it is brutal.

Are you kidding me? Listen to their voices lmao

Their voice is similiar,but they are not the same person,look at their faces,also 14 is from IAA,Haines from FIB

[pie4july]

So his hair is a different color? You guys seriously haven't noticed the similarities? Their mannerisms? Their voices? It's Steve Haines renamed. I mean it sounds like they have the same voice actor tbh

Edited September 1, 2017 by pie4july

[Guest]

It's two different timelines/dimensions.

 

GTA:O timeline started prior to the events of GTA:V. GTA:V timeline assumed you never stepped off of that plane or, if you did, you didn't climb up any further than a basic street hustler with Lamar.

 

GTA:O timeline is what it is. Franklin never started running with Lamar because Lamar was busy with the street punk who got off the plane. Michael never got back in the game. Trevor never learned Michael was still alive and never ventured outside of Blaine Country, found a street punk to do some low level work until that punk climbed the ladder and eventually worked along side Ron pushing Trevor out of the air trafficking business. With Trevors failed drug running organisation from Series A and losing Ron as his slave he returned to his trailer where he now sits enjoying those bad trips from the weird and wonderful substances consumed over the years.

 

The butterfly effect. You stepping off of that plane changed Los Santos.

 

It's as feasible a reason for inconsistencies as any.

 

So his hair is a different color? You guys seriously haven't noticed the similarities? Their mannerisms? Their voices? It's Steve Haines renamed. I mean it sounds like they have the same voice actor tbh

Robert T. Bogue is the voice of Steve Haines (and many other Rockstar characters from other games such as RDR, TBOGT).

 

Ryan Farrell is the voice of Agent 14.