Hangar Supply Missions

[DarkForkner]

I couldn't find a topic already touching on this, but it would surprise me if this hadn't already been brought up.

 

So, having solo done a handful of supply missions for my hangar last night, some of them had me either shooting down aircraft or bombing land vehicles/boats in a weaponised aircraft in order to reveal the crate.

 

Now, the problem I had was I was not in a helicopter. I was in some variant of fighter plane which means I was unable to land conveniently to pick up the crate without bailing the craft, parachuting onto the ground/into water to retrieve the crate. Then I'm at the mercy of NPC Buzzard's and Jets while on foot and having to spawn a Buzzard to get back safely (I use safely loosely) with the crate.

 

My question is, are these missions designed to stop you solo playing? Because the only logical way I can imagine it making it easier to pick up the crate is if you have an associate do it, while you remain in the plane?

 

But this raises another question: If you have an associate(s), will Ron provide all of you with separate planes for the mission? If so, this still makes it extremely inconvenient if one of you still has to eject yourself from the aircraft to retrieve the crate and still having to find your own transport back. The only perk of that last part with associates is there is protection from the NPC's whilst one of you is on the ground.

 

Still an odd mission design, though. Or am I missing something blindingly obvious?

[GTAnger]

I've been using my personal savage and hydra to land but still think it's stupid that some of the missions require me to be on foot even though I've just blown millions on an AIRCRAFT hangar.

[Big_T]

I know the mission you are talking about. The one with the old school war plane taking down hydras. To pick up the crate from the water all I did was fly low and skim the surface near the a crate. I think I clipped it with my wing.

[Jimbatron]

I know the mission you are talking about. The one with the old school war plane taking down hydras. To pick up the crate from the water all I did was fly low and skim the surface near the a crate. I think I clipped it with my wing.

This is basically how to do it. Even with more associates you still get 1 crate per player I hear so you still have the same issue. The problem is you can't always control exactly where it lands. Sometimes skimming the surface is viable, others not dependant on obstacles that may be in the way.

 

The alternative is to bail and quickly spawn a CEO buzzard to get back. I like to take out the first wave of attackers with my Minigun so I don't get shot while firing up the blades.

[Hécate-II]

 

My question is, are these missions designed to stop you solo playing?

 

Yes, you need to be experienced to do it fully solo. I don't think this DLC is worth from an economical pov, but thats just my opinion.

 

I never use the provided aircraft:

-launch mission

-grab Lazer(travel faster+ still an OP aircraft, perfect for destroying other modern fighter jets)

-and improvise according the mission, sometimes I do the mission in Buzzard, or Savage, it depends. Sometimes I use the Lazer as well because it completly fits to the mission.

 

 

" will Ron provide all of you with separate planes for the mission?"

Yes, I got two Hunters for me and my associate.

Edit: Hum, not sure about fixed-wing aircrafts. Sorry I don't paid attention...

Edited August 30, 2017 by Hécate-II

[Partajeesus]

I always use my hydra if I have to destroy something. It always does that faster and easier than the provided aircraft and you can easily pick up cargo from water.

Only time I use the provided plane is the tula mission, because you have to land on water and go diving.

[fw3]

In that specific mission, if you let the last Jet go, it will fly toward Zancudo, which is where my hangar is. I just shot it down over there, the cargo dropped IN Zancudo, where I swooped in, grabbed it, and hopped over to my hangar. Easy mission, in that regard.

I should note that just about every mission I've done has been in my SecuroServ Buzzard... not sure why I bought those other new planes?

[Schroebedroeber]

I might have done the same mission, i think it was the one with the propellor on the tail.

 

Package was in the water so i just took the gamble and landed on the water.

It floats!

[WarnerKiller]

As others have said, you can usually skim the package with your wing tip, or fly low and skim it with the belly of the plane. I'm not sure if it's part of the update, but aircraft now seem much stronger than before. I crashed a plane straight into a wall nose first last night and it just stopped dead, dropped onto the roof below and didn't explode... then a few seconds later with the propeller spinning against the wall it blew up. I also hit various buildings and just bounced off, whereas previously any contact with something immovable was an instant death sentence.

 

With any of the missions involving two buzzards coming after you once the package is released, just stand on land somewhere (or on the pontoon in the Tula diving mission) and use a pistol or something to shoot the gunners out the back of the buzzards. Then jump in your getaway plane/helicopter and fly away. The pilots of the buzzards can't shoot you and as you didn't shoot them down no new buzzards will respawn. I tend to shoot one of the buzzards down entirely and just leave one with a pilot - which also works.

 

On some missions when you're half way back across the map towards your base two new buzzards might eventually respawn, but by then you're going pretty quick and they don't catch up.

 

Hope this helps!

[DarkForkner]

I know the mission you are talking about. The one with the old school war plane taking down hydras. To pick up the crate from the water all I did was fly low and skim the surface near the a crate. I think I clipped it with my wing.

 

Unfortunately, the crate dropped in the water in and around Banning Docks. Impossible to skim the water and grab it that way, but funnily enough, I managed to do exactly what you're describing on a separate mission where the crate was on a boat in the sea, so once I destroyed it, I also flew low and clipped it with my wing.

 

The point I'm making though, is this is still a very awkward way of having to do things and sure not the intended method when R* designed this? Even with associates, as others have said, they will also have their own crafts and some of the time, everyone will have a crate each to pick up. So I'm confused as to how the game wants us to go about this in a far more viable and smooth manner?

 

This is basically how to do it. Even with more associates you still get 1 crate per player I hear so you still have the same issue. The problem is you can't always control exactly where it lands. Sometimes skimming the surface is viable, others not dependant on obstacles that may be in the way.

 

The alternative is to bail and quickly spawn a CEO buzzard to get back. I like to take out the first wave of attackers with my Minigun so I don't get shot while firing up the blades.

 

 

Again, bailing, picking it up on foot/in water, spawning a buzzard.... it's almost as if R* thought about the design of the mission up to the point of blowing up the vehicle carrying the crate and decided to just leave the rest up to us to figure out whichever way suits us. I just find it very odd. Solo or with associates everything just seems very awkward.

[Grimoire]

The one where you have to do tricks in a plane to fill an ''excitement'' meter is the f*cking worst....

[DangerZ0neX]

You don't have to use the planes provided as you can always use your own. I used my Hydra, Savage, and Molotok for most of these and completed them pretty efficiently.

[DarkForkner]

As others have said, you can usually skim the package with your wing tip, or fly low and skim it with the belly of the plane. I'm not sure if it's part of the update, but aircraft now seem much stronger than before. I crashed a plane straight into a wall nose first last night and it just stopped dead, dropped onto the roof below and didn't explode... then a few seconds later with the propeller spinning against the wall it blew up. I also hit various buildings and just bounced off, whereas previously any contact with something immovable was an instant death sentence.

 

With any of the missions involving two buzzards coming after you once the package is released, just stand on land somewhere (or on the pontoon in the Tula diving mission) and use a pistol or something to shoot the gunners out the back of the buzzards. Then jump in your getaway plane/helicopter and fly away. The pilots of the buzzards can't shoot you and as you didn't shoot them down no new buzzards will respawn. I tend to shoot one of the buzzards down entirely and just leave one with a pilot - which also works.

 

On some missions when you're half way back across the map towards your base two new buzzards might eventually respawn, but by then you're going pretty quick and they don't catch up.

 

Hope this helps!

 

They seem to continuously spawn for me. I bailed from my plane, picked up the crate in the water, two buzzards and a jet spawned. I get out of the water, manage to avoid being blown to sh*t and take out the Buzzards. I then tried to take out the Jet on foot, but two more Buzzards spawned. So I got rid of those two and by the time I spawned my own Buzzard, two more spawned again!! I then shot those two and the jet down with my Buzzard.

 

Guess what? When I flew off, another pair of Buzzards and a second jet spawned again.

The one where you have to do tricks in a plane to fill an ''excitement'' meter is the f*cking worst....

 

Yeah I had this one too. What a load of crap. I tried to "knife fight" between some tall buildings... yeah, didn't end well.

 

I ended up using all of my aircraft spawns and in the end, just used my Buzzard and flew under the bridges and that worked. Just ignore the bloody knife stunts

[Schroebedroeber]

Nobody tried landing their plane on the water?

Because some of them are seaplanes..

[DarkForkner]

You don't have to use the planes provided as you can always use your own. I used my Hydra, Savage, and Molotok for most of these and completed them pretty efficiently.

 

Yeah I figured you could. I probably will once the fun of dog fighting with jets in an old war plane wears thin, because at the moment, it's f'king awesome! I just wish I knew what R* intended us to do once the crate is on the floor haha!

Nobody tried landing their plane on the water?

Because some of them are seaplanes..

 

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure the ones I've had so far aren't seaplanes. It's the matter of having to pick up a crate in the middle of the concrete jungle that is the city as well, though. It's not easy to find a spot to land. I even had one crate land on the top of the mountains between City and Sandy Shores. That was fun to navigate in a Molotok......

[HipHopHead]

The one where you have to do tricks in a plane to fill an ''excitement'' meter is the f*cking worst....

I did that one, I crashed trying to knife, that plane is way too twitchy. I ended up just flying upside down over land and got it pretty easily.

[Chunkey_Monkey]

I just parachute out when the fighters are all killed, land bu chute as close as poss jump into CEO buzzard to collect.

[Hécate-II]

The one where you have to do tricks in a plane to fill an ''excitement'' meter is the f*cking worst....

 

-ask Buzzard, and do the helico challenge variation...you basicly have to pass under the brigdes.

Edited August 30, 2017 by Hécate-II

[JustCallMeNiko]

These missions may not be great from a profit per minute pov but I find them to be much more fun than previous dlcs.

 

In a year from now I surely won't be picking up ceo cargo crates but I would likely fire up a few SR missions to have fun.

[Chunkey_Monkey]

The one where you have to do tricks in a plane to fill an ''excitement'' meter is the f*cking worst....

 

 

Use Havoc or buzzard and fly under bridges it easy peasy that one, Once done fly to opposite end of map pick up truck and drive back

[Ker Juice]

 

The one where you have to do tricks in a plane to fill an ''excitement'' meter is the f*cking worst....

I did that one, I crashed trying to knife, that plane is way too twitchy. I ended up just flying upside down over land and got it pretty easily.

 

I tried this along with barrel rolls and loops, yet the meter did not budge for me.

[singemfrc]

Get creative. Land the plane nearby, use a car or chopper to ferry the stock back to your plane.

[NightShark]

 

The one where you have to do tricks in a plane to fill an ''excitement'' meter is the f*cking worst....

Yeah I had this one too. What a load of crap. I tried to "knife fight" between some tall buildings... yeah, didn't end well.

 

I ended up using all of my aircraft spawns and in the end, just used my Buzzard and flew under the bridges and that worked. Just ignore the bloody knife stunts

 

That's the only way to be successful at this game now, Ignore how R* wants you to play it and do it your own way

[HipHopHead]

 

 

The one where you have to do tricks in a plane to fill an ''excitement'' meter is the f*cking worst....

I did that one, I crashed trying to knife, that plane is way too twitchy. I ended up just flying upside down over land and got it pretty easily.

 

I tried this along with barrel rolls and loops, yet the meter did not budge for me.

 

You have to be pretty close to the ground. My controller had slight vibrations while the meter was filling up. It was good feedback letting me know I was close enough,

[singemfrc]

 

 

 

The one where you have to do tricks in a plane to fill an ''excitement'' meter is the f*cking worst....

I did that one, I crashed trying to knife, that plane is way too twitchy. I ended up just flying upside down over land and got it pretty easily.

 

I tried this along with barrel rolls and loops, yet the meter did not budge for me.

 

You have to be pretty close to the ground. My controller had slight vibrations while the meter was filling up. It was good feedback letting me know I was close enough,

 

 

Note that you arent required to use that plane. You can ditch it and use whatever you want, like just get a buzzard and fly under bridges.

[DarkForkner]

These missions may not be great from a profit per minute pov but I find them to be much more fun than previous dlcs.

 

In a year from now I surely won't be picking up ceo cargo crates but I would likely fire up a few SR missions to have fun.

 

This! Honestly, I'm far more concerned about these missions being a sh*t tonne of fun to do than be concerned about the money/profit. I've done the CEO grind enough to last me a lifetime and can't bring myself to do it anymore. I'm not going to go all out to make as much money as possible as quick as possible from this Smuggler DLC. I'm just going to try and enjoy it, no pressure and just let the value creep up as and when. I can earn more than enough money than I need with MC, I/E and the Bunker to keep me happy so I'm going to treat this Smuggling lark as a change of pace on the side.

[DarkForkner]

Get creative. Land the plane nearby, use a car or chopper to ferry the stock back to your plane.

 

Sometimes it's not so easy to land nearby. "Nearby" may not be all that close in some instances and this just leaves any idiot to come and steal your stuff whilst your arsing around landing a craft in some open ground, sourcing a vehicle to get you to the crate etc. Like I said, all video games are designed with a formula/method in mind for everything. Everything has a smooth path to completing an objective. Developers are paid to intricately design these formulas to be completed with a clear method whilst maintaining an element of challenge. The part between blowing up the vehicle and collecting the grounded crate in an aeroplane in a densely populated area seems a little....slapdash and sloppy. All of the suggestions people are providing to combat this will work, yes, but it's all over the place.

[DengaGrad]

The one thing i noticed that sucked is after doing the stunt plane mission where you have to fly in between building and bridges, the crate will spawn all the way on the other side of the map...

 

in a truck

 

the truck only goes about 70 and now you have to drive to your hangar on the other side of a map with a lobby full of jets and planes, and this for only a 10 grand package.

 

Not worth it

Edited August 30, 2017 by DengaGrad

[ash-274]

I might have done the same mission, i think it was the one with the propellor on the tail.

 

Package was in the water so i just took the gamble and landed on the water.

It floats!

That's the Seabreeze and yes, it's a seaplane.

It's at least partially-inspired by the LISA Akoya.

The one thing i noticed that sucked is after doing the stunt plane mission where you have to fly in between building and bridges, the crate will spawn all the way on the other side of the map...

 

in a truck

 

the truck only goes about 70 and now you have to drive to your hangar on the other side of a map with a lobby full of jets and planes, and this for only a 10 grand package.

 

Not worth it

The plane they give you is fast and twitchy and many of the bridges near Zancudo aren't great for "twitchy", so just use your Buzzard instead, and then you can rocket the truck at the end.

Edited August 30, 2017 by ash-274

[ALLWORLD19]

 

That's the only way to be successful at this game now, Ignore how R* wants you to play it and do it your own way

 

thats right been doing that since the game came out lol

Edited August 31, 2017 by ALLWORLD19