Bitch and Moan Thread - Smuggler's Run Edition

[The Wandering Hunter]

Hunter is dripfeed.

f*ck everything.

I'm gonna go cryofreeze myself.

Wake me up when hunter is released.

you can rent a pod if you like

[rlk232]

Update came out but broke because legit money was removed.

Thus the rating of this update from 1 to 5:

1.

And they pretty much got gifted such a rating because i can technically not rate it lower.

Sure, you can. I give it a -356. Feels right to me.

[SideStunt]

If you put the Valkyrie in your hanger it removes the nose art.

 

I thought I'd be able to permamently stick the ace nose art onto the helicopter, and boy was I wrong.

[Organ-Donor]

 

 

Insurance charges for blowing up jets...

 

GO f*ck YOURSELF, R*.

Yep insurance for blowing up military vehicles LOOOOOOL C* does it again.

 

Game off

This is reeetarded. So defending yourself or having dog fights will result in paying insurance fees. And on top of it I assume no way to know if it's a Pegasus Hydra (no insurance) or Hydra they spawned in their hanger turning it into a personal vehicle (assuming they didn't repaint it)?

 

Was bad enough paying for Opressor insurance when you were just defending yourself.

 

How much is it 20k?

This is real bad.

I think I read only $1k which is odd considering it's an aircraft. Not that big of a deal if it is only $1k but still a stupid logic to get docked money for defending yourself, or just having fun dogfighting. Edited August 29, 2017 by OD913

[UndyingBubbles]

OK, so I went in all guns blazing as soon as the DLC dropped and went off on a tangent. I had a few hours off then went back to it for an hour or so to see if I was being a little too critical initially, I wasn't. This is by far the worse DLC that has been released. I have had a chance to do 16 resupply missions so have tested out the various aircraft as well. My opinion? They are all utter crap including the hunter. There is NOTHING my trusty Hydra won't take care of in an instant.

 

I bought the cheapest hangar with no upgrades as I sort of knew I didn'rt really want to get involved but with money to spare I thought why not for a measly few $m which I got in no time from x2 IE anyway.

 

- Resupply missions for a lousy $10k crate can take 10-15 mins if you do the jammer one plus a few more

- Clothes are utter cack as normal

- The sourcing/selling profit margin is pathetic for theamount of time you put in to it

- Insurance on military jets - really?

- BS points for blowing up high calibre military vehicles like in GR - really? I mean why have them if they cannot be used properly?

- The planes and choppers, apart from to show off, serve no purpose at all - just keep your buzzard, savage, hydra in hangar

- Not done one yet but try selling a large amount of stock whilst being carpet bombed by numerous players - yeah, good luck

 

I could literally pull this DLC apart it is so shockingly bad. As it was so close to GR I presume not much time, thought or effort was put in to it and it shows. It is just again C* way of getting little squeakers and the fools amongst you to part with your money to buy your new pointless pixelated toy(s). If you have the money, good, you have grinded for months to get a pointless plane or chopper and if you spend $hundreds on shark cards for this junk more fool you.

 

I will play with friends every now and then but if I need money it will be via IE and MC certainly not GR and SR which so close together have been the worse 2 DLCs to date.

 

The game is going in a direction I do not like, this is not GTA any more, it is a kids playground full of stupid toys. Very soon it will just be griefing non stop and trying to do any sort of sale will be impossible unless you are lucky enough to get a lagged out session with friends

 

From someone who played a lot and enjoyed the game I am now hating it. I am just glad I will have Battlefront II and RDR2 soon as my time on GTAO is coming to an end unless it is the odd hour or 2 to simply muck around.

 

It is a real shame this has gone from a decent game to a simply cash cow that people have swallowed.

[Hybrid_Punk]

I'd say GR is still the worst update, but this one isn't too far behind.

[Jammsbro]

 

 

I am also priced out of the game.

 

Not buying a card. Would rather pay for a standalone update pack rather than pay for a card.

 

Even at the trade prices these vehicles are anything up to £40 PER VEHICLE.

 

This might be the last straw in the game for me. Think I'm just going to use the game to goof around with mates and ignore all updates.

priced out?

 

we just had x2 I/E sales, i only played on the weekend and made almost 10M in 2 days just seeling cars and bunker in between

 

if you dont play, you cant buy.

 

I did the math for you.

According to GTASeriesVideos you can sell up to 3 cars per hour.

With 2x I/E sales every high end vehicle should give a profit of $ 160.000 ((100k - 20k)x2)

The bunker when buying supplies for $ 75.000 needs 140 minutes (with upgrades) to produce $ 210.000 to sell to LS.

 

If we break it down to an hour, your profit could look like this:

I/E 1h : 3 high end cars : $ 480.000

Bunker 2,33h : 1 bar of product : $ 135.000

1h : 43 % bar of product :~$ 57.857

 

Maximum profit in one hour, considering no damages while sourcing or selling cars: ~ $ 537.857

 

$ 10.000.000 : $ 537.857 = 18,59 hours

55 cars sourced and sold, almost 8 bunker sales. Average playtime on a 3 day weekend 6 hours 12 minutes. Very reasonable and not time consuming at all. There might be some bonuses for full lobby sales or vip missions in between, but the overall time shouldn't be affected by more than an hour.

 

If I throw in 3 additional headhunters for $ 21.000 every hour, you would need 16,64 hours to get to $ 10.000.000.

 

double cars sales are over. to buy the minimum for everything right now is way over $20Million, closer to $27Million if you haven't unloicked the trade prices.

 

Add in whatever the drip fed content will cost and you could be looking at $40Million+

 

It's too much grinding. All the time. Playing has been replaced with grinding.

 

And if you want to buy cards, it's no longer a case of buy a card and get something. Now you have to buy two, or even three cards for one item.

 

Say you want to get going day one. With no trade prices, you buy one plane, the new car, a zancudo base and a couple of upgrades. That's about $12Million. A shark card is about £13 for $1.2Million

 

That's £120 to buy it. That, is rockstar totally and utterly taking the piss out of us all.

[We Are Ninja]

 

https://twitter.com/TezFunz2/status/902472976997785600

Destroying other Smuggling stock increases the value of your own. Wow

This is just plain bullsh*t.

 

Perhaps it is.

 

But if you think about it makes perfect sense.

 

Simple supply and demand business principle.

 

Blowing up competitors supply increases demand for whatever product remains.

 

And with that, R* created a literal, driving incentive to completely ruin other players' Smuggler's Run sales as often and completely as possible. If you want to maximize profit, you have to take out other players work. Talk about crabs in a barrel. I'm legit glad that I didn't impulsively pull the trigger on a hangar this morning before work. You airplane/chopper fans can keep all the smuggling shenanigans for yourself...

Edited August 29, 2017 by We Are Ninja

[JON22]

^^^^^^You have to pay insurance on stored Pegasus vehicles? The f*ck. Cheaper not storing them. f*ck insurance. The only reason why I don't go on a fun rampage is because of insurance and bad f*cking sport (I've seen those lobbies on youtube. No thanks).

[jimmylh]

I want a soft drink machine or snacks in the hanger.

[555-We-Tip]

I can make money faster by walking the streets than I can with this update.

[Khephera]

Not really B&M, but it's related to this:

 

It seems like doing hangar missions isn't really profitable. I mean, $10k worth of product for each supply run?

You get a bonus for blowing up other player's smuggling goods.

Now go have your fun, my girl

 

I was just on my way back to my hangar with my Savage. A guy crossed my way and he was just delivering smuggler goods to his hangar. So I destroyed his truck and picked up his goods. He left the session. Dunno if pissed or if he thought that this will cancel the piracy.

So, it's more like some info:
-If the player is leaving the lobby, you have 3 minutes to deliver the goods
-The stolen good is worth $20k of product

Cheers (:

Edited August 29, 2017 by Khephera

[P34NUTZ]

This game is a complete f*cking warzone now. Holy sh*t.

I thought it was bad before but this is ridiculous. I was just driving around in passive and there were so many explosions that my game crashed. What in the absolute f*ck we're Rockstar thinking?!

[Stealthflight]

OK, so I went in all guns blazing as soon as the DLC dropped and went off on a tangent. I had a few hours off then went back to it for an hour or so to see if I was being a little too critical initially, I wasn't. This is by far the worse DLC that has been released. I have had a chance to do 16 resupply missions so have tested out the various aircraft as well. My opinion? They are all utter crap including the hunter. There is NOTHING my trusty Hydra won't take care of in an instant.

 

I bought the cheapest hangar with no upgrades as I sort of knew I didn'rt really want to get involved but with money to spare I thought why not for a measly few $m which I got in no time from x2 IE anyway.

 

- Resupply missions for a lousy $10k crate can take 10-15 mins if you do the jammer one plus a few more

- Clothes are utter cack as normal

- The sourcing/selling profit margin is pathetic for theamount of time you put in to it

- Insurance on military jets - really?

- BS points for blowing up high calibre military vehicles like in GR - really? I mean why have them if they cannot be used properly?

- The planes and choppers, apart from to show off, serve no purpose at all - just keep your buzzard, savage, hydra in hangar

- Not done one yet but try selling a large amount of stock whilst being carpet bombed by numerous players - yeah, good luck

 

I could literally pull this DLC apart it is so shockingly bad. As it was so close to GR I presume not much time, thought or effort was put in to it and it shows. It is just again C* way of getting little squeakers and the fools amongst you to part with your money to buy your new pointless pixelated toy(s). If you have the money, good, you have grinded for months to get a pointless plane or chopper and if you spend $hundreds on shark cards for this junk more fool you.

 

I will play with friends every now and then but if I need money it will be via IE and MC certainly not GR and SR which so close together have been the worse 2 DLCs to date.

 

The game is going in a direction I do not like, this is not GTA any more, it is a kids playground full of stupid toys. Very soon it will just be griefing non stop and trying to do any sort of sale will be impossible unless you are lucky enough to get a lagged out session with friends

 

From someone who played a lot and enjoyed the game I am now hating it. I am just glad I will have Battlefront II and RDR2 soon as my time on GTAO is coming to an end unless it is the odd hour or 2 to simply muck around.

 

It is a real shame this has gone from a decent game to a simply cash cow that people have swallowed.

 

 

I am a 1,000 hour player with high K/D ratio being my specialty hobby pastime.

 

I have done most ingame activities and DLCs but like the yacht , I think Ill pass on this one

 

I'm not a flight fan except for my buzzard and don't think this DLC will make me into one either

 

I already have a hydra and I don't really enjoy it. I'm not interested in slow azz 10k plane deliveries

 

I have unlocked all my research for the bunker. I have my explosive sniper and own a Ruiner.

 

With the 3 million I had to buy a hanger, I think Ill spent it on the Oppressor instead

 

My buzzard homing launcher is disabled when planes are making deliveries so whats the point. I have more fun on the ground.

[Stealthflight]

 

OK, so I went in all guns blazing as soon as the DLC dropped and went off on a tangent. I had a few hours off then went back to it for an hour or so to see if I was being a little too critical initially, I wasn't. This is by far the worse DLC that has been released. I have had a chance to do 16 resupply missions so have tested out the various aircraft as well. My opinion? They are all utter crap including the hunter. There is NOTHING my trusty Hydra won't take care of in an instant.

 

I bought the cheapest hangar with no upgrades as I sort of knew I didn'rt really want to get involved but with money to spare I thought why not for a measly few $m which I got in no time from x2 IE anyway.

 

- Resupply missions for a lousy $10k crate can take 10-15 mins if you do the jammer one plus a few more

- Clothes are utter cack as normal

- The sourcing/selling profit margin is pathetic for theamount of time you put in to it

- Insurance on military jets - really?

- BS points for blowing up high calibre military vehicles like in GR - really? I mean why have them if they cannot be used properly?

- The planes and choppers, apart from to show off, serve no purpose at all - just keep your buzzard, savage, hydra in hangar

- Not done one yet but try selling a large amount of stock whilst being carpet bombed by numerous players - yeah, good luck

 

I could literally pull this DLC apart it is so shockingly bad. As it was so close to GR I presume not much time, thought or effort was put in to it and it shows. It is just again C* way of getting little squeakers and the fools amongst you to part with your money to buy your new pointless pixelated toy(s). If you have the money, good, you have grinded for months to get a pointless plane or chopper and if you spend $hundreds on shark cards for this junk more fool you.

 

I will play with friends every now and then but if I need money it will be via IE and MC certainly not GR and SR which so close together have been the worse 2 DLCs to date.

 

The game is going in a direction I do not like, this is not GTA any more, it is a kids playground full of stupid toys. Very soon it will just be griefing non stop and trying to do any sort of sale will be impossible unless you are lucky enough to get a lagged out session with friends

 

From someone who played a lot and enjoyed the game I am now hating it. I am just glad I will have Battlefront II and RDR2 soon as my time on GTAO is coming to an end unless it is the odd hour or 2 to simply muck around.

 

It is a real shame this has gone from a decent game to a simply cash cow that people have swallowed.

 

 

I am a 1,000 hour player with high K/D ratio being my specialty hobby pastime.

 

I have done most ingame activities and DLCs but like the yacht , I think Ill pass on this one

 

I'm not a flight fan except for my buzzard and don't think this DLC will make me into one either

 

I already have a hydra and I don't really enjoy it. I'm not interested in slow azz 10k plane deliveries

 

I have unlocked all my research for the bunker. I have my explosive sniper and own a Ruiner.

 

With the 3 million I had to buy a hanger, I think Ill spent it on the Oppressor instead

 

My buzzard homing launcher is disabled when planes are making deliveries so whats the point. I have more fun on the ground.

 

 

The gunrunning supply missions were a waste of time too. I bought all my supplies for research using my I/E money

 

A few weeks from now it will back to the I/E being the easiest profitable businesses. And the skies will back to the hydras and griefer jets.

[mrfonzius]

The Howard stuntplane should just be smashed into a wall or drowned in the ocean being such an awful piece of crap. If you have the stunt mission, better use the Lazer/Hydra/Besra.

 

And Ron even gets a cut? Time to call uncle T I guess...

Edited August 29, 2017 by mrgstrings

[redamed9292]

by the look of it ,this update is bad if you want to make money.so i'll skip it.and IMO people will buy the hangar just so they can mod the aircrafts.and that's something i am not interested in.

[Sunny_D]

I'd say GR is still the worst update, but this one isn't too far behind.

nice LP flag soldier profile pic

 

Ot: there feels like there was just something that is lacking in this update. It looked alot more fun in the trailer.

[TankGirl]

 

 

 

 

 

https://twitter.com/TezFunz2/status/902472976997785600

Destroying other Smuggling stock increases the value of your own. Wow

This is just plain bullsh*t.

 

Perhaps it is.

But if you think about it makes perfect sense.

Simple supply and demand business principle.

Blowing up competitors supply increases demand for whatever product remains.

 

 

And with that, R* created a literal, driving incentive to completely ruin other players' Smuggler's Run sales as often and completely as possible. If you want to maximize profit, you have to take out other players work. Talk about crabs in a barrel. I'm legit glad that I didn't impulsively pull the trigger on a hangar this morning before work. You airplane/chopper fans can keep all the smuggling shenanigans for yourself...

 

I feel the same way! I was going to rush and buy it this morning but decided to wait abit and after reading what I have read I think I will sit this DLC out. I may get the hanger possibly only to customize planes and choppers because I love to fly but as far as making money, think I will stick to cars and my bunker. Same goes for going wild and buying all the planes and such, probably will just buy one.

Edited August 29, 2017 by TankGirl

[Weej1888]

It isn't Rockstars fault that everything is so expensive, it's the fault of folk who spend money on shark cards.

 

Rockstar is a business. Of course they are going to make as much real money from people as possible.

 

If nobody bought the shark cards, it wouldn't be an issue.

[DatQuietKid]

Destiny 2 is coming out, yea thats how bad this dlc is. Hopefully rdr online won't be a f*ck up like gta online. When will r* realize that gta online is boring and the dlc they release dies out within a week or less.

 

They should fire the guys who come up with these ideas for the game. This is the reason why some players like to grief other players because they're bored asf playing gta online and the only satisfaction they get is by killing other players, sad but true.

[Fennimoe]

If you are on a sell limit for personal vehicles...

 

You cannot remove any aircraft from your hangar until your daily sell limit is reset!

 

Lmao! I had to fill my storage slots with Hydras because I couldn't remove the damn Duster I put in there.

Edited August 29, 2017 by Fennimoe

[Mattoropael]

If you put the Valkyrie in your hanger it removes the nose art.

 

Meanwhile, the Dodo can change livery in the hangar. The f*cking Dodo.

[Arkseven]

And again, c*nt* could deliver a better way to farm and have fun with some planes, but nooo...

 

Instead, all i see here is LONG, BORING AND UNNECESSARY missions.

 

 

Seriously, they made every mission to take more than 10 minutes. Geez...

They literally screw all the missions desgins, just to make you lose more time. They don't care about how the mission is gonna play, they just care about how long you can complete it.

 

They do not care about game desing anymore. They're just throwing sh*t. Hell, the clothes have worse texture than the basic clothes that come with the game since 2013.

The Hunter, one of the most wanted vehicles, has been drip fed. Of course...

 

 

What makes me even more angrier is that they are trying to milk every last drop. FFS, they already got a ton of money with this game. Can't they at least be a little "pve lone wolf friendly" for once? Why on earth everything has to be conect with forced pvp?

 

 

And again, associates get pure sh*t. "MULTIPLAYER GAME".

 

 

c*nt* is getting above the level of EA or sh*tsoft...

[Runnin_Gag]

Savage still dies when you sneeze at it.

 

More protection against explosives wont help you against AI

[ash-274]

@Myself for this one:

I went to check the number of collections needed for the discount on the Tula and accidentally bought it at full price. $1.3M mistake (in part due the fact I only slept for 3 hours and it was 3:00am).

That plane is very vulnerable in hover mode. I recommend getting he JATO option. Try it with the missions that include it to see the difference.

[Stealthflight]

And again, c*nt* could deliver a better way to farm and have fun with some planes, but nooo...

 

Instead, all i see here is LONG, BORING AND UNNECESSARY missions.

 

 

Seriously, they made every mission to take more than 10 minutes. Geez...

They literally screw all the missions desgins, just to make you lose more time. They don't care about how the mission is gonna play, they just care about how long you can complete it.

 

They do not care about game desing anymore. They're just throwing sh*t. Hell, the clothes have worse texture than the basic clothes that come with the game since 2013.

The Hunter, one of the most wanted vehicles, has been drip fed. Of course...

 

 

What makes me even more angrier is that they are trying to milk every last drop. FFS, they already got a ton of money with this game. Can't they at least be a little "pve lone wolf friendly" for once? Why on earth everything has to be conect with forced pvp?

 

 

And again, associates get pure sh*t. "MULTIPLAYER GAME".

 

 

c*nt* is getting above the level of EA or sh*tsoft...

 

I even said "F" this" to the gunrunning missions. I simply paid for all my research unlocks by buying the supplies instead with my I/E money . I didn't speed research, I just paid for the supplies. I want to have fun with this game. I don't want it feeling like a job. Many of my other friends with full time job said the same thing. They long left Gta 5 to play something else

[White Shark]

Lol wut? So say if I'm on the ground getting trolled by an enemy new-fangled jet, and I manage somehow to shoot him down, I have to pay his insurance?!?!

[Fennimoe]

Lol wut? So say if I'm on the ground getting trolled by an enemy new-fangled jet, and I manage somehow to shoot him down, I have to pay his insurance?!?!

Yeah, of course!

 

Shark Cards say hello

[UndyingBubbles]

The game is so broken in terms of balance and dynamics as well as grind/purchase ratio it is beyond a joke now.

 

If you are happy to do days and weeks worth of monotonous grinding to be carpet bombed more fool you.

 

C* are laughing at you all and you all swallow it up like a lap dog