brahmabull Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Also - havok - imho not worth it, it's not much more agile than the buzzard and drastically underpowered with the slow fireing .50 cal, even if it may be a teeny weeny bit more agile (which for me it isn't) it does not give much, buzzard is still the quickest and most deadly heli in this game The swift is quicker than the buzzard and always has been... Not gonna trust the word of someone that can barely fly helis in the game and doesn't realise the differences. You do realize I'm talking about waponized vehicles for assistance in mission completion? thus the quickest and most deadly description used. Good luck with taking down lazers in your swift dude. Playing since day one, and tons of hours spent in a heli, and just sharing my impressions with regards to the havok - that initially seemed like the 'lil agile machine, and yet even if it is more agile and quick than the buzzard(which at a first glance doesn't feel like it, but maybe someone will run some tests and prove me wrong in a youtube video which I won't even watch) its gun fires slow, poses minimal threat and does not handle in a 'new way of life' kind of way as I initially thought it might, and I prefer the buzzard as an attack heli - that everyone here knew was the best go to all around vip helper from the very beginning. You can buy four havoks and be happy about each of them, I bought one, upgraded it to the max and after flying 2 missions with it thought that the greatest thing about it is tha it can be sold so not all is lost. Do not believe me when I say that the buzzard feels just as quick and agile as the havok, lands in a more stable manner and has way better firepower, you grind your own buck and spend it as you prefer, gold dolla rims and white blazing jumpsuits if this is your idea of fun Havok looks as it should take off quicker than you can think, yet it musters the power to do so much longer than it should, it turns and lands after sharp turns in a very nervous manner and when trying to do a 180 with blazing jets on my tail I'd rather buzzard the sh*t out of my flying skills than rely on the havok to get me out of it I don't like the havoc either. The only thing i have done with it yet is a sell mission with 3 Havocs and i wasn't able to land a single one of them. Obviously i could but in a hurry i did what i'm able to do with evey other chopper but here i managed to tip all 3 over bacause i came in slightly sideways. It doesn't feel that much more agile than the buzzard and the weapons aren't that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Soze Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 When stocking on the same stuff you get bonuses for selling price adding to ther10k per crate, 5 percent of total crates value added after 5 crates in storage, 10 percent after 10 crates, I didn't get to more so I'm not sure it goes up to 50 percent with a full set of 50 crates of a particular product. It would be cool if a bigger crate count for one product gave better percentage. I sold the 10 crates in a one vehicle sale. Acquireing cargo missions are fun in the given vehicles as you can test them in action, however nothing beats a buzzard for solo work, I've had numerous situations where I'd simply call for it to not get frustrated at stuff - the only exception - dogfighting lazers with the nokia/nikon (every big boy knows it's the rustler dammit!) - cool mission and cool plane to fly, but with all others where you can choose your craft over the one provided buzzard is the best(hunter's rocket barrage has its perks and there is one mission where you airdrop from a cargobob over fort zancudo so no choice of aircraft there). A nice update although it's basically crates 2.0, with much worse payouts per game hours, and the only thing keeping the grind is the price unlocks for some of the aircraft Also - havok - imho not worth it, it's not much more agile than the buzzard and drastically underpowered with the slow fireing .50 cal, even if it may be a teeny weeny bit more agile (which for me it isn't) it does not give much, buzzard is still the quickest and most deadly heli in this game You sir just save my 2m GTAO dollars hahaha Thx kovaandr, Geisterfaust, Hécate-II and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazzytizer Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Doesn't Ron mention that destroying other people's cargo increases the value of your own stock? I don't see this mentioned anywhere I look and was wondering if anyone had anything to share on the matter? Maybe this is a way to make smuggling a bit more profitable? Not true, you have to actually steal them, I've stolen 3 so far. Oh. well, what kind of effect does it have on the overall value of stock? Since payouts are so poor, there is surely a way of making this business at least somewhat competitive in terms of money making when compared to other businesses? I don't understand why they would create an inferior version of crates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle4GTA Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 does the cheaper ls airport locations have a travel time disadvantage compared to the more central fz? bumping this one and is it possible to solo sell 50 crates? bumping this because i want to know same thing if its possible to solo sell 50 crates, i read on here someone delivered 1 big airplane with alot of crates on it but not sure if it was 50 crates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLG Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Has anyone found out the crate limit for 1 sale delivery vehicle yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmk111 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Has anyone found out the crate limit for 1 sale delivery vehicle yet? Crew member got 3 planes 5 drops each on 1 crate sale so there is none... He did couple of drops then blew the planes up and still got 10k - rons cut tho. Geisterfaust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryday Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 wait, you just selled 1 crate? and it was split up into 3 vehicles? ONE CRATE? 10000 DOLLARS? Stormingz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datetenou Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Has anyone found out the crate limit for 1 sale delivery vehicle yet? Crew member got 3 planes 5 drops each on 1 crate sale so there is none... He did couple of drops then blew the planes up and still got 10k - rons cut tho.WHAT thats tons of bullsh*t even if u play in a crew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharcken Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 There is a Heavy Sniper Spawn and Homing Launcher Spawn at the top of the hangar. You have to go up a bunch of stairs sonit is kind of annoying. Hécate-II and Taterman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbatron Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 How much do associates get paid for supply and deliveries (if anything) beyond their standard wages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrugalDangerMan Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Totally not worth the time invested as a solo player. I'm glad I bought a hangar for customs plane storage but it won't be until a 2x smuggling payout week before I bother with these time sink missions. Selling 3 ie cars with head hunting between cooldowns while the bunker staff grinds out weapons is a SH*T TON more profitable. Like work 10hrs at McDongles vs 10hrs at a unionized city Job. Both are 10hr jobs but one pays for a 500sqft apt/mo-ped and the other pays for a 1500sqft condo and a BMW. Neuling2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakswan Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Doesn't Ron mention that destroying other people's cargo increases the value of your own stock? I don't see this mentioned anywhere I look and was wondering if anyone had anything to share on the matter? Maybe this is a way to make smuggling a bit more profitable? Not true, you have to actually steal them, I've stolen 3 so far. Oh. well, what kind of effect does it have on the overall value of stock? Since payouts are so poor, there is surely a way of making this business at least somewhat competitive in terms of money making when compared to other businesses? I don't understand why they would create an inferior version of crates? So... if you start as CEO with 4 in, do a source mission, before taking crates your members leave and steal for themselves? Could even do swaps, both start a source mission and you agree with other CEO to take their crates. Any of this possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexcreator Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Those who are sticking to Import/Export should still get a hangar in my opinion, so they can place a Cargobob there (and maybe a Hyrda / Savage). Being able to spawn Cargobob right next to your feet is like a dream come true for any Import/Export grinder So far in all the videos I've seen, when players ordered their PV Buzzard by using the interaction menu it spawned pretty far away. The Cargobob really spawns near you? Depends on the location. You will have hard time spawning a large vehicle in a city. It's not the same as with CEO vehicles, but it's still better than Pegasus. Very similar to spawning a MOC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilez67 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Thanks for that but how can my associates make in hathe hanger missions and mc too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmk111 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 wait, you just selled 1 crate? and it was split up into 3 vehicles? ONE CRATE? 10000 DOLLARS? thats what he described on discord yes, i wasnt actually in the session with him so cant 100% confirm but i also have absolutely no reason to suspect that he was lying. i accidentally started a 7 crate sale solo (wanted to source) and it was the slow plane with turret on top, 5 drops, 4* wanted + 2npc helis attacking. changed session and it took one crate as a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazzytizer Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 As I don't have an air freight business just yet correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Ron say that certain things pay higher when In demand. Does this mean destroying crates of a certain type gives a bonus payout because there's less of them in circulation? Also is it true that stealing stock increases value too? I'm certain that there's more to this business that just sourcing crates as why would there be 8 different options of crate when they're all worth $10k each anyway?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedinhuh Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Once I hit 50 crates collected, to get all discount bonuses, I will sell all at once, call this sh*t a day and never touch it again. I shouldn't have left I/E and Gun running sales, much better profit. x_TestsubjecT_x, mrfonzius and anarquista_duval 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elektronik Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Have LSIA hangar. Dont regret about location. Everything sold alone. My selling missions: 1) Sold 1 crate - got 3 havoks and 6 point (2 per chopper). Lucky all points were near. Not for solo. 2) Sold 2 crates - got Alpha Z1 and 5 point very low almost over all map. Easy solo mission. 3) Sold 1 crate - got Skylift (fly over all map to Paleto from LSIA). Veeeery slow and boring. 4) Sold 1 crate - got Cargobob and 2 containers (2 points near Pacific Bank). Easy solo, but better have friend with owned Cargobob or have your. Will faster. 5) Sold 1 crate - got Mogul and had to deliver cargo to 5 points over all map. Was followed by cop's Mavericks. Impossible to destroy or avoid them. Did 2/5 and crashed but got all money (10k). Not for solo. So 3 of 5 missions require friends. Taterman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrnrfan182 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) If you've read this far and haven't figured it out by now, this update is a money making dud. There's very little need to learn the ins and outs as it's just not worth your time. My advice is to stock the product while earning discounts on aircraft and then leave it all alone until the inevitable x2 week. Don't waste your time selling anything at this point, especially if you're a solo player. You'll make quadruple the money in two hours of I/E with a bunker and MC business sale than you would dedicating any time to this. Just get your deliveries in for discounts and enjoy your personalized aircraft. Edited August 30, 2017 by Mrnrfan182 Beez 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brahmabull Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Have LSIA hangar. Dont regret about location. Everything sold alone. My selling missions: 1) Sold 1 crate - got 3 havoks and 6 point (2 per chopper). Lucky all points were near. Not for solo. 2) Sold 2 crates - got Alpha Z1 and 5 point very low almost over all map. Easy solo mission. 3) Sold 1 crate - got Skylift (fly over all map to Paleto from LSIA). Veeeery slow and boring. 4) Sold 1 crate - got Cargobob and 2 containers (2 points near Pacific Bank). Easy solo, but better have friend with owned Cargobob or have your. Will faster. 5) Sold 1 crate - got Mogul and had to deliver cargo to 5 points over all map. Was followed by cop's Mavericks. Impossible to destroy or avoid them. Did 2/5 and crashed but got all money (10k). Not for solo. So 3 of 5 missions require friends. I got the one with 3 Havocs with 2 drops each and did it solo easily. I had 5 minutes left even when i returned the chopper which i didn't have to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovaandr Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 How about raids? Did anyones hangar get attacked by npcs yet, or don't we have to worry about that this time? Stormingz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeSmooth Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Selling 14 crates got me an my friend two vehicles. I'm guessing that 9 is the magic number again for one vehicle like with special crates. My first sale was 8 crates and I had to use three of those small choppers made by nagasaki. Two drops with each chopper and you have to fly them in pretty tight spaces when you make the drop. Being careful not to crash I still had over four minutes left after the last drop. edit: Yeah f*ck this. Tried selling 8 crates and had to use some really slow plane. I'm talking slower than cuban slow and 4 star wanted level from the start. Managed to do 3/5 drops when the plane broke. You need someone in the machine gun with that thing to shoot the police choppers down. You were struggling against police choppers?!?! I don't wanna think of how you would have done with some griefer in a hydra chasing you. drizzi_b 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman1996 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Just did a sale of that full counterfeit goods stock and got 1 million! Also Ron got his cut - 18750$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormingz Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) How about raids? Did anyones hangar get attacked by npcs yet, or don't we have to worry about that this time? I don't think we have to worry about them. All the other businesses where being raided was a threat, we had the option to buy a security upgrade, with the hangar this option wasn't included, so I assume our hangars can't be raided. Edited August 30, 2017 by Stormingz kovaandr and Kesha_F1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoropael Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Also - havok - imho not worth it, it's not much more agile than the buzzard and drastically underpowered with the slow fireing .50 cal, even if it may be a teeny weeny bit more agile (which for me it isn't) it does not give much, buzzard is still the quickest and most deadly heli in this game The swift is quicker than the buzzard and always has been... Not gonna trust the word of someone that can barely fly helis in the game and doesn't realise the differences. You do realize I'm talking about waponized vehicles for assistance in mission completion? thus the quickest and most deadly description used. Good luck with taking down lazers in your swift dude. Playing since day one, and tons of hours spent in a heli, and just sharing my impressions with regards to the havok - that initially seemed like the 'lil agile machine, and yet even if it is more agile and quick than the buzzard(which at a first glance doesn't feel like it, but maybe someone will run some tests and prove me wrong in a youtube video which I won't even watch) its gun fires slow, poses minimal threat and does not handle in a 'new way of life' kind of way as I initially thought it might, and I prefer the buzzard as an attack heli - that everyone here knew was the best go to all around vip helper from the very beginning. You can buy four havoks and be happy about each of them, I bought one, upgraded it to the max and after flying 2 missions with it thought that the greatest thing about it is tha it can be sold so not all is lost. Do not believe me when I say that the buzzard feels just as quick and agile as the havok, lands in a more stable manner and has way better firepower, you grind your own buck and spend it as you prefer, gold dolla rims and white blazing jumpsuits if this is your idea of fun Havok looks as it should take off quicker than you can think, yet it musters the power to do so much longer than it should, it turns and lands after sharp turns in a very nervous manner and when trying to do a 180 with blazing jets on my tail I'd rather buzzard the sh*t out of my flying skills than rely on the havok to get me out of it Other than the stunt mission, you're doing it wrong if you take a Buzzard anyway. Hydra is by far the most efficient (and in many cases, fun) option due to its speed and sheer destructive power. I do agree however that the Havok is very disappointing. kovaandr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmy13999 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Totally not worth the time invested as a solo player. I'm glad I bought a hangar for customs plane storage but it won't be until a 2x smuggling payout week before I bother with these time sink missions. Selling 3 ie cars with head hunting between cooldowns while the bunker staff grinds out weapons is a SH*T TON more profitable. Like work 10hrs at McDongles vs 10hrs at a unionized city Job. Both are 10hr jobs but one pays for a 500sqft apt/mo-ped and the other pays for a 1500sqft condo and a BMW. To much work compared to the payout. I'll do the supply missions to unlock all discounted price and just wait with selling until some kind of bonus on it.. Mogg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarimboHanky Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 have someone figured out hoe much cargo you need to sell solo? you know no multiple vehicles and sh*t like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlobbishBoozer Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I'm not liking what I'm reading!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElchMoose Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Minmaxing much? I know this might not be the best paying scheme so far (or maybe we just need to know how), but is it all you care about? How about having some fun in a game instead of grinding cause this pays better. Personally, I dislike the i/e bull-- since every super duper aimbotted npc bullet loses you money and those silly street chases are annoying. Would rather do crates than i/e. If this is at least half decent at earning, i will be doing it, maybe not all of the time, just when i feel like it. Certainly more enjoyable than coke with boxvilles. Nossirag, LoveFist87, Jackie_R and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrnrfan182 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Minmaxing much? I know this might not be the best paying scheme so far (or maybe we just need to know how), but is it all you care about? How about having some fun in a game instead of grinding cause this pays better. Personally, I dislike the i/e bull-- since every super duper aimbotted npc bullet loses you money and those silly street chases are annoying. Would rather do crates than i/e. If this is at least half decent at earning, i will be doing it, maybe not all of the time, just when i feel like it. Certainly more enjoyable than coke with boxvilles. If you own a Bob you should be delivering cars in mere minutes without a scratch... mrfonzius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
