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R* currently working on making Solo Public Sales not possible.


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People who play in solo-public lobbies are not negatively affecting the experience of those who aren't. We aren't really cheating either, as you can stumble into an empty lobby by normal means. We're never the cause of complaints, unlike the guy shooting at your Titan or Boxville with exploding sniper bullets copy/pasted from a single player cheat code. I can't imagine why anybody would be in favor of taking away solo-public lobby money making unless they were rubbing their hands together snickering at the thought of all the new people they'll have a chance to grief. Pure spite really. Is there a single reason to be in favor of this aside from just being a massive c*nt?

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How exactly would they even fix solo public lobbies?

 

Rip to people that have bad internet in general

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They don't force you to sell in a session with a bunch of trolling assholes. You, if you're stupid enough to do so, choose to sell in that session. If a session has players who are very hostile and trolling across the whole map, why would you sell in that session? Find new session exists, use it. You'll find sessions where every player is just going about their own business and not killing anything that moves, you will find sessions with the PvP players who will attack if you are near but ignore you if you're too much like hard work.

We shouldn't have to find a new session in the first place, we should be able to fight back and be able to win in a balanced and fair even field. Sadly the game is very unbalanced and too stacked against the player to make this possible.

 

You have the same tools at your disposal as they do. If you are unable to defend yourself despite the weaponary you have, find a session where you can. You can fight back and you can win. Get a crew of 8, make a sale, you find few attempt to attack and those who do run off with their tail between their legs.

 

 

 

They should give people the option to play in closed sessions (at a cost).

What cost? We already play at a cost (no High Demand bonus, which is reasonable), any lower than the base payment and there will be no point to sell in Invite/Crew lobbies.

 

High demand bonus is 24% at most for MC and GR sales, 28% for crates, if you have the good sense to sell with a full crew. The reality of it is, in a full session of 32 players the amount of lag in the session tied in with the amount of hostile trolls makes using such a session for a sale a very poor choice. As I have preached before, picking the correct session and at the right time are fundamental to success.

 

I've already explained the cost and the reasons why, in my opinion, the costs should be there. You have already read them. Find those posts again if you need a refresher.

 

 

 

How does it make anyone greedy by restricting the sales to public? A failure to assess the session is on you, not anyone else.

Restricting freedom to the player in a sandbox game, not balancing the game at all and turning the playerbase against itself just to drive Shark Card sales is textbook definition of greedy.

 

Focus has shifted. What was once marketed as a sandbox multiplayer game has very much changed. If the arguments against it not being multiplayer can disregard the announcement trailer and multiplayer details of the game then the description of it being a sandbox game can be disregarded for the same reasons. If it were a true sandbox game would we be restricted by rank and money, which has been the case since day one? A true sandbox game with 100% freedom would allow us to do anything, use anything and have no restrictions, this has never been the case.

 

 

 

Play smart and you can succeed in populated, hostile, public sessions.

No matter how smart you play, it only takes a dick in a *insert OP weapon/vehicle of choice* to undo hours of work.

 

Untrue. I'm sure you know that should the worst happen and you exit the game before saving you do not lose the hours of work but lose, at most, a matter of minutes. Sell a full shipment of coke and have your stock blown up, exit the game, you lose very little stock. This is the worst case scenario too. Most of the time it's entirely possible to defend against the dick. Like I said, play smart, pick the right time, choose the right session, run with a competent crew who can and will defend your product.

 

 

 

And if everyone is forced to public, those who currently glitch solo publics and are crying about how unfair or how it will be the end of GTA if they are forced to publics will be in publics, playing peacefully with each other. The chances of a quiet peaceful session will be increased. It's not all negative, wipe the tears from your eyes and you will see the bigger picture.

This already happens, there's peaceful crews already that play peacefully in controlled public sessions. Sadly, if you land in one of our lobbies, you'll be asked to leave and if you don't comply, you'll be kicked. It's a sh*tty move? Certainly, but it's the only way to play in peace.

 

It would be way better if we could play as we wish without having to kick other people.

 

You miss my point. If everyone who currently solo publics it are forced to publics, the amount of peaceful, non crew controlled sessions will increase. There are already a great deal of these sessions, I often land in them and get inundated with messages of "peace". If/when solo publics cease then the number of these peaceful, uncontrolled sessions will increase, people will find those sessions easier and quicker. Surely that's a good thing for those who aren't in crews or peaceful crews etc.? If anything it's worse than having solo publics being a thing, peaceful people will gain the HD bonus for non hostile players - people should be happier that Rockstar are about to make it easier for people to play in peace and earn more money.

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How exactly would they even fix solo public lobbies?

 

Rip to people that have bad internet in general

I wouldn't say they are fixing it.

 

But yeah, the same way they did it with the clock.

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GTAO = troll simulator. i'm sure someday another publisher vwill pop in from nowhere with a great GTA like. i mean the GTA we always dreamt of. Ubi is closing. slowly but surely if you ask me. look the great Miami they have done in the crew, and it's only a driving simulator game. give Ubi few more years, and R* persists their way satisfying retarded kids, and goodbye GTA. guaranteed

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GTAO = troll simulator. i'm sure someday another publisher vwill pop in from nowhere with a great GTA like. i mean the GTA we always dreamt of. Ubi is closing, slowly but surely, if you ask me. look the great Miami they have done in the crew, and it's only a driving simulator game. give Ubi few more years, and R* persists their way satisfying retarded kids, and goodby GTA. guaranteed

GTA with the Crew map... would give us a reason to use more planes :D

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They could make it so you need at least 2 MC's/CEO's in a public session BEFORE you can sell.

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I would try to find public sessions without griefers,but it seem to be almost impossible to do that on PC

 

What's your definition of griefer?

What's your strategy to avoid them?

Are you against any PvP?

 

 

 

 

,lots of people already got everything with modded money

 

These people are extremely bad at the game and don't know how to use their "everything" properly. Just yesterday I've escaped two godmode oppressors while sourcing a car in a cargobob.

 

not to mention the risk of finding someone who will drop money bags on you,i can't risk that.

 

This risk is close to zero, since the moneybag have a radious in most modern mod menus. They can't remotely inject money anymore.

 

It is rare to find an good public session on PC,at least for me.

 

 

Tripplecheck that your crew is not IGN or any other "popular" crews. Even if the crewmember is not attacking you, they may have friends who do. Friends will have crewmembers and so on.

 

By Griefer i mean these tryhards with oppressors and explosive rounds,they seem to only attack players that have no interest in PVP at all

My strategy depend of the kind of player i am facing,i know how to abuse every mechanic from this game.

Of course not,sometimes i come here and suddenly summon an vip work ruiner 2k then start hunting some oppressors,i stay outside bunkers to kill people too,but i never destroy supplies,i like to get an higher K/D thats all.

 

I know some of them are really bad at the game,i made an rank 700 ragequit from an session,before leaving he told me how he got that rank,but no matter how bad they are,if you are inside an fkin post op boxville and they inside an hydra there is no way to win.

 

I am paranoic ok,i really love this game and i can't risk losing my account,i got already one strike.

 

It doesn't matter if they are from IGN or from the same crew,since i am Brazilian i keep finding sessions with others Brazilians,and hell,i hate Brazilians most of them are trolls who will attack supplies at sight,i never experienced problems with players from other nationalities

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^I like it when some players in jets do a runner when I get out of my vehicle. Its like they know I have the explosive rounds equipped :whistle: too right I do :p

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^I like it when some players in jets do a runner when I get out of my vehicle. Its like they know I have the explosive rounds equipped :whistle: too right I do :p

Jet griefers in session are an immediate invite to go ghost, grab your own Hydra and go and get them whilst off radar. They hate that.

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^I like it when some players in jets do a runner when I get out of my vehicle. Its like they know I have the explosive rounds equipped :whistle: too right I do :p

I know right,but they will just come back in another vehicle,and keep coming back,and i hate to leave the session because someone,it is like they won after all,so i just give up trying to make money and waste a lot of time killing him until he leaves the session(if he enters passive i keep following him and destroying his PV).

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I switch to mc spawn my Oppressor and go at them.

I do that a lot too,but i will never switch my Ruiner 2k for the Oppressor.

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The Wandering Hunter

so a random youtube says they're going to do something and people go on for 20 pages about it. really?

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so a random youtube says they're going to do something and people go on for 20 pages about it. really?

 

More like a R* leaker made a post on 4chan about it and people are going nuts because virtually 90% of the info he gave for Import/Export was correct.

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There's a difference between "You can destroy Gunrunning shipments for cash and RP" and "Destroy Gunrunning shipments for cash and RP". The first is and invitation, the second is an order. Sadly there's people who can't see the difference.

Grammatically, the second is also an invite. A suggestion too if you like. (An order or authoritative command would be likely to have penalising consequences for not following, which isn't the case with these messages)

 

Do you pass a shop that says "Buy one, get one free" and see it as an order to follow, or an invite?

FWIW your posts are mostly well thought out and I appreciate that you don't constantly refer to shark cards like so many others...you seem to get a lot of flack for them but I tend to agree with most points you make about this game.

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There's a difference between "You can destroy Gunrunning shipments for cash and RP" and "Destroy Gunrunning shipments for cash and RP". The first is and invitation, the second is an order. Sadly there's people who can't see the difference.

Grammatically, the second is also an invite. A suggestion too if you like. (An order or authoritative command would be likely to have penalising consequences for not following, which isn't the case with these messages)

 

Do you pass a shop that says "Buy one, get one free" and see it as an order to follow, or an invite?

FWIW your posts are mostly well thought out and I appreciate that you don't constantly refer to shark cards like so many others...you seem to get a lot of flack for them but I tend to agree with most points you make about this game.

 

 

I don't think you can really truly fault someone's personal thoughts, unless they lead to actions that can actually harm others. In this case -- for the 'victim' -- it would only really be:

 

A greater distrust for strangers

Further loss of hope in mankind

Anger

Rage

A temporary increase in stress levels

A temporary increase in blood pressure

Possible enamel loss from grinding of teeth

Short-term melancholy

Feeling 'crushed' or 'dead' inside

Resentment

PTSD flashbacks

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They could make it so you need at least 2 MC's/CEO's in a public session BEFORE you can sell.

 

If R* really wants to do something, the minimum number of CEO will be higher. It would be too easy to just lag and then invite 2 or 3 friends to simulate "rivalry" and stuff. Peoples already do it with IE to prevent the Sultan NPC to spawn during car export.

 

-Make your solo lobby

-invite 2 friends

-hire one as associate to perform a car export(2 cars)

-the other friend, do not hire him

-boom! no more stupid NPC with their blue Sultans.

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I am playing it safe myself to be sure and not buying into this update for at least a day and then check the forums here, Youtube, and other sources to see if this does ring true cause Rockstar sure as hell is not going to tell us about such a change up front. I prefer to wait and see instead of learning the hard way should this actually be true.

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ALifeOfMisery

I'm waiting for someone in my crew to get back to me whether MTU still work and if missions can be done.

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I'm waiting for someone in my crew to get back to me whether MTU still work and if missions can be done.

I'm waiting for someone in my crew to get back to me whether MTU still work and if missions can be done.

 

I've just tried to start work in a solo public lobbies and it seems to be letting me do work still,

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I'm waiting for someone in my crew to get back to me whether MTU still work and if missions can be done.

I'm waiting for someone in my crew to get back to me whether MTU still work and if missions can be done.

I've just tried to start work in a solo public lobbies and it seems to be letting me do work still,

The new hangar work? Does it give you the option to start a sale solo?

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I'll be checking if the Oppressor R* Editor glitch still works as well as the effectiveness of MTU and solo public lobbies in a minute now.

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I'm waiting for someone in my crew to get back to me whether MTU still work and if missions can be done.

I'm waiting for someone in my crew to get back to me whether MTU still work and if missions can be done.

I've just tried to start work in a solo public lobbies and it seems to be letting me do work still,

The new hangar work? Does it give you the option to start a sale solo?

I've not brought one yet going to buy now and I'll report back if it still work.

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Still doing solo lobby and selling off top 2 tiers at double money in i/e. Grinded i/e so much, like gr, that i will be done with i/e for awhile. Definitley had my fill of the slow Bob and the fiddling around needed to pick up cars with it.

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Could people please say the system and method when saying whether they can or cannot get solo pub lobby to work please.

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MTU will still work on PS4, r* can't stop it. I'm wondering if the new hangar steal and sell missions can be started while solo? And if so what the NPC resistance is like.

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I want to keep my system and method private. I will say that i have been in session for many hours and i have not updated.

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