R* currently working on making Solo Public Sales not possible.

[Non Funkable Token]

 

 

I don't get people like you who creates all these mental rules of what "cowardly" is and what is not, you go through all these mental gymnastics to convince yourself you're honorable and the rest are not, how about adapting to your enemy? the only thing that i woudn't condone is cheating and glitching... the rest of the games features are fair go.

I am adapting. By getting rid of them completely.

 

Good for you... i'm sure it's gonna be real fun using the Hunter against npcs.

 

 

Lol what you have been doing in this saga until now? Or is this your first GTA?

 

The Hunter made its name against npcs, pretty much like every vehicle not named Oppressor.

[Semaj 2JZ♢]

 

"Hey I destroyed your 2 million sale, it's just a game bruh"

^ If people could play with that mantra of truth kept in mind, the happier they might be.Really? Then by all means do all that is required to get that 2 million dollar sale attempt and then just let someone destroy it.

 

Record it. Show it here, and then say the trite, middle school phrase, "it's just a game, bruh."

 

10 bucks says you won't.

[Non Funkable Token]

 

"Hey I destroyed your 2 million sale, it's just a game bruh"

^ If people could play with that mantra of truth kept in mind, the happier they might be.

 

 

Too bad R* uses virtual dollars for transactions, not mantras.

[Hécate-II]

I don't get people like you who creates all these mental rules of what "cowardly" is and what is not, you go through all these mental gymnastics to convince yourself you're honorable and the rest are not, how about adapting to your enemy? the only thing that i woudn't condone is cheating and glitching... the rest of the games features are fair go.

Passive/active abuse is not a strategy, not a tactical move, its nothing, its pure crap. Its designed for wannabe PvPers who can't take the heat when they start losing a fight/lose their vehicles because are sh*t pilots.

[Big Molio]

No, it's f*cking not. You're the exact reason why no one outside of the GTA community will ever look at GTA in a positive light because all they'll remember is the childish cancerous fanbase. You would rather fight each other over dumb unnecessary sh*t than work together and have fun together.

By the way, blowing up people's multi-million dollar shipments isn't trolling, it's the behavior of a wanker. Don't sugarcoat it or give it any special names.

To be fair, there might be players on the receiving end who might yell that it isn't a troll game, but the facts are that this message, and others like it, unequivocally say otherwise:-

 

DESTROY GUNRUNNING SHIPMENTS FOR CASH AND RP

 

Couple that with the fact there is an audio-visual alert to show you where these shipments are, then I don't see how it can be denied that the intent is to invite other players to destroy those shipments.

 

Blame the game, not the people who play it, in whichever manner.

[HamwithCheese]

How about this, I can blame the game and blame the players for not thinking for themselves.

 

"The game told me to" is a sh*tty excuse, especially since there isn't an "or else" scenario.

Edited August 28, 2017 by HamwithCheese

[Nyamber]

 

 

 

 

I don't get people like you who creates all these mental rules of what "cowardly" is and what is not, you go through all these mental gymnastics to convince yourself you're honorable and the rest are not, how about adapting to your enemy? the only thing that i woudn't condone is cheating and glitching... the rest of the games features are fair go.

I am adapting. By getting rid of them completely.

 

Good for you... i'm sure it's gonna be real fun using the Hunter against npcs.

 

It was in every other GTA game. I don't see how this one's any different.

 

Yeah you're right it is fun... getting that Hunter with Tommy and blasting all of Vice City... BUUT for me personally i prefer the dicking around in online nowadays. I just don't like people telling me how to play.

 

Neither do I. That's why the public lobby restriction shouldn't exist.

[Big Molio]

How about this, I can blame the game and blame the players for not thinking for themselves.

 

"The game told me to" is a sh*tty excuse, especially since there isn't an "or else" scenario.

"The game told me to" is an equally lame riposte, because the game doesn't tell players to do anything, it merely invites them to engage in what is thus valid gameplay. The players on the thick end of that type of play are naturally going to complain, but that is the game presented.

[ScrappyBauer]

 

Welp newsflash this is not an esports game... this is a troll game

No, it's f*cking not. You're the exact reason why no one outside of the GTA community will ever look at GTA in a positive light because all they'll remember is the childish cancerous fanbase. You would rather fight each other over dumb unnecessary sh*t than work together and have fun together.

 

By the way, blowing up people's multi-million dollar shipments isn't trolling, it's the behavior of a wanker. Don't sugarcoat it or give it any special names.

Look i love doing heists and coop sh*t... i even do contact missions from time to time (who does this?), but they won't add them anymore, am i supossed to do them forever? yeah well i don't think so... listen i just like the two sides of this coin the pvp and the pve.

[DangerZ0neX]

Blame the game, not the people who play it, in whichever manner.

I blame the devs, the game, and the people who blindly follow Rockstar's orders like sheep.

 

I blame Rockstar for stomping on the majority of the playerbase just to milk money from the minority who individually splurg thousands on shark cards, the game for being designed to be such inconvenient unbalanced crap that's meant to frustrate and coax you into buying a shark card to skip the toxic moneymaking sh*thole that is public Freemode, and the players who are looking for every little reason to excuse their cowardly tactic even if the destruction of multi-million dollar products pays them mere pennies that doesn't get them anything.

 

There's literally no reason to be a dick for such a pathetic reason, no matter how many times anyone tries to convey it otherwise.

Edited August 28, 2017 by DangerZ0neX

[ScrappyBauer]

 

 

 

Neither do I. That's why the public lobby restriction shouldn't exist.

 

 

 

I agree on that, it would be a shame, atleast for me as i said earlier.

 

[Guest]

 

 

(No salt man, not one bit. I don't care... I'm having fun elsewhere... You do remember already that you've apologised for assuming wrongly I cheated, and that I quit a month-or-so ago because Gunrunning was, IMO, a load of sh*t with nothing to encourage me to play, paywalls, balance issues, recycled heist/story missions etc... The newer players to this discussion need to know that the one with all the objections/crusade against solo public sessions is equally a cheat that is boasting 100% successes across the board from using said solo public sessions to achieve his success... Seems it's not 'at a stretch' after all bub - It reeks, lol... However, I accept that I'm disappointed that I left the game this way, yeah, I'm really hoping GTA can return to appeal to me, but that's all on me man, not aimed at you, not anyone other than R*... If you think I'm bitter at you, then I must ask again... Are you R*, lol...)

Are you high? Or just a little slow? How on Earth do you get to "struck a nerve" from what I responded with? No, you haven't struck a nerve, I don't even know what or why you think you have. Or is this just another way to say "u mad bro?"? Either way, no nerve struck and not mad. Simply correcting your dumbass comments which you claim I continue to cheat despite the fact that I haven't used a solo public for monetary gain for almost a year. You just can't seem to grasp that it would make zero sense for me to argue against the failed petition and argue for this rumoured change if I continued to cheat.

 

Out of curiosity, after what fact is it coming out? I have, since the start, in the topics prior to the failed petition one, stated that I have played solo public, I found them no challenge, boring and dull and stopped using them. Public sessions and playing as Rockstar clearly intend these game modes to be played isn't hell at all, it's easily achievable. So just what fact is it that my stating I haven't cheated to get a solo public for monetary gain has come out after?

 

Your argument is extremely flawed. I don't want solo publics to be a thing, I don't want closed sessions to allow sales/resupplies, because I want to be the only person to gain from it? What?! How does that even make sense? Or perhaps I am arguing against them because I so desperately use them regularly? Again, what?! Surely if I continued to cheat and continued to use solo publics I'd be crying all over the forums with the rest of you lot about the rumoured change or demanding that Rockstar change it so I can play the way I want to?

 

FYI check what you post. I've never said it was 100% across the board. And as explained in my last post, that was brought up purely to show that selling in public is possible (regardless of how many were done in solo public, if at least 1 was done in public then it's possible - you don't seem to be able to comprehend this for some reason - perhaps lay off the weed or stop jerking off so much, it's not difficult to understand).

 

No salt? You are kidding right? Your tears are by far among the saltiest of those crying to me about something I don't control but only agree or disagree with.

 

Holy quote train batman. You seem to care a lot about public solo lobbies since you keep coming back to the topics so often.

 

So often, sure... except for the fact I went over a week without bothering to respond to anyone whining... but yeah, I come back so often.

 

I respond to posts directed at me, that is all. If something requires an answer or further justification I provide it. It's that simple really.

[HamwithCheese]

You just want to be right. Just say it.

[Guest]

Lol.

Awesome argument and answers to those questions posed and/or points made. How I wish I could discuss with as much intellectual content as you do...

[ScrappyBauer]

 

Blame the game, not the people who play it, in whichever manner.

I blame the devs, the game, and the people who blindly follow Rockstar's orders like sheep.

 

I blame Rockstar for stomping on the majority of the playerbase just to milk money from the minority who individually splurg thousands on shark cards, the game for being designed to be such inconvenient unbalanced crap that's meant to frustrate and coax you into buying a shark card to skip the toxic moneymaking sh*thole that is public Freemode, and the players who are looking for every little reason to excuse their cowardly tactic even if the destruction of multi-million dollar products pays them mere pennies that doesn't get them anything.

 

There's literally no reason to be a dick for such a pathetic reason, no matter how many times anyone tries to convey it otherwise.

 

You're right THERE IS NO REASON, that's the beauty of online for a lot of people. Some people like being dicks to other people get over it.

Edited August 28, 2017 by ScrappyBauer

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

To be fair, there might be players on the receiving end who might yell that it isn't a troll game, but the facts are that this message, and others like it, unequivocally say otherwise:-

DESTROY GUNRUNNING SHIPMENTS FOR CASH AND RP

 

Couple that with the fact there is an audio-visual alert to show you where these shipments are, then I don't see how it can be denied that the intent is to invite other players to destroy those shipments.

 

Blame the game, not the people who play it, in whichever manner.

 

 

The game tells you to deliver cars to Simeon, do you do that too?

 

The game tells you to play the most recent Adversary Mode, do you do that too?

 

The game tells you to buy Shark Cards, do you do that too ?

You're right THERE IS NO REASON, that's the beauty of online for a lot of people. Some people like being dicks to other people get over it.

 

So if people want to be dicks, let them be, but if someone wants to play in peace without affecting others is wrong?

 

There's nothing beautiful about being a dick.

[Big Molio]

The game tells you to deliver cars to Simeon, do you do that too?

 

The game tells you to play the most recent Adversary Mode, do you do that too?

 

The game tells you to buy Shark Cards, do you do that too ?

The game doesn't tell me to do anything, it invites me to, if I wish. Those modes of play are equally as valid as the adversary element of freemode.

 

There's literally no reason to be a dick for such a pathetic reason, no matter how many times anyone tries to convey it otherwise.

It doesn't require a reason.

 

You say cowardly, but if I'm on foot and I see a 3-shipment convoy coming down the highway with a Buzzard in tow, I see that as a challenge. I'll be on my own, and on foot, so to my mind I'm the underdog, not them.

Edited August 28, 2017 by Big Molio

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

 

The game tells you to deliver cars to Simeon, do you do that too?

 

The game tells you to play the most recent Adversary Mode, do you do that too?

 

The game tells you to buy Shark Cards, do you do that too ?

The game doesn't tell me to do anything, it invites me to, if I wish. Those modes of play are equally as valid as the adversary element of freemode.

 

 

There's a difference between "You can destroy Gunrunning shipments for cash and RP" and "Destroy Gunrunning shipments for cash and RP". The first is and invitation, the second is an order. Sadly there's people who can't see the difference.

 

But it doesn't matter anyway cause you still go after sales regardless of what the game tells you to do.

[Guest]

Why do they force me to play with a bunch of trolling asshole who would ruin my 1-million$ warehouse just for their petty amusement?

 

They should give people the option to play CEO/Bikers/Bunkers/Import-Export/Smuggling in closed/solo sessions as well!

 

Are they that greedy?

They don't force you to sell in a session with a bunch of trolling assholes. You, if you're stupid enough to do so, choose to sell in that session. If a session has players who are very hostile and trolling across the whole map, why would you sell in that session? Find new session exists, use it. You'll find sessions where every player is just going about their own business and not killing anything that moves, you will find sessions with the PvP players who will attack if you are near but ignore you if you're too much like hard work.

 

They should give people the option to play in closed sessions (at a cost).

 

How does it make anyone greedy by restricting the sales to public? A failure to assess the session is on you, not anyone else. Selling in the right session (i.e. one without a bunch of jet greifers or players who are chasing sales across the whole map) at the right time (during events, the notifications either don't show up at all or are less obvious/less appealing to players - why waste time getting $2k and some fireworks if you can earn more from driving fast, sniping players, causing mass damage etc.?), with the right crew (if you have full stock there's no sense in selling solo, 3 post op vans for a far sale is very tight in the 30 minutes you get to do it, more than one FAV to 5 destinations each in 15 minutes is very tight if not impossible in some cases).

 

Play smart and you can succeed in populated, hostile, public sessions.

 

And if everyone is forced to public, those who currently glitch solo publics and are crying about how unfair or how it will be the end of GTA if they are forced to publics will be in publics, playing peacefully with each other. The chances of a quiet peaceful session will be increased. It's not all negative, wipe the tears from your eyes and you will see the bigger picture.

[Big Molio]

There's a difference between "You can destroy Gunrunning shipments for cash and RP" and "Destroy Gunrunning shipments for cash and RP". The first is and invitation, the second is an order. Sadly there's people who can't see the difference.

Grammatically, the second is also an invite. A suggestion too if you like. (An order or authoritative command would be likely to have penalising consequences for not following, which isn't the case with these messages)

 

Do you pass a shop that says "Buy one, get one free" and see it as an order to follow, or an invite?

Edited August 28, 2017 by Big Molio

[ScrappyBauer]

 

You're right THERE IS NO REASON, that's the beauty of online for a lot of people. Some people like being dicks to other people get over it.

 

So if people want to be dicks, let them be, but if someone wants to play in peace without affecting others is wrong?

 

There's nothing beautiful about being a dick.

 

No it's not wrong playing in peace i'm fine with that, what i'm saying is that mass murdering the entire session until they all quit so i can farm alone is just as valid.

Edited August 28, 2017 by ScrappyBauer

[Guest]

You just want to be right. Just say it.

Right about what?

 

Right about the things I've claimed, sure - I wouldn't claim them as fact if they weren't right.

 

Or right about something else? Not entirely sure what else there is to be right or wrong about.

[HamwithCheese]

 

You just want to be right. Just say it.

Right about what?

 

Right about the things I've claimed, sure - I wouldn't claim them as fact if they weren't right.

 

Or right about something else? Not entirely sure what else there is to be right or wrong about.

Okay okay you're right. You're wrong sometimes geez.

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

No it's not wrong playing in peace i'm fine with that, what i'm saying is that mass murdering the entire session until they all quit so i can farm alone is just as valid.

 

It's not necessary wrong to empty a session by a show of force, but it wouldn't be way better to play the full game in an Invite/Crew session and saving all the hassle?

[0CypherP]

 

Why do they force me to play with a bunch of trolling asshole who would ruin my 1-million$ warehouse just for their petty amusement?

 

They should give people the option to play CEO/Bikers/Bunkers/Import-Export/Smuggling in closed/solo sessions as well!

 

Are they that greedy?

They don't force you to sell in a session with a bunch of trolling assholes. You, if you're stupid enough to do so, choose to sell in that session. If a session has players who are very hostile and trolling across the whole map, why would you sell in that session? Find new session exists, use it. You'll find sessions where every player is just going about their own business and not killing anything that moves, you will find sessions with the PvP players who will attack if you are near but ignore you if you're too much like hard work.

 

They should give people the option to play in closed sessions (at a cost).

 

How does it make anyone greedy by restricting the sales to public? A failure to assess the session is on you, not anyone else. Selling in the right session (i.e. one without a bunch of jet greifers or players who are chasing sales across the whole map) at the right time (during events, the notifications either don't show up at all or are less obvious/less appealing to players - why waste time getting $2k and some fireworks if you can earn more from driving fast, sniping players, causing mass damage etc.?), with the right crew (if you have full stock there's no sense in selling solo, 3 post op vans for a far sale is very tight in the 30 minutes you get to do it, more than one FAV to 5 destinations each in 15 minutes is very tight if not impossible in some cases).

 

Play smart and you can succeed in populated, hostile, public sessions.

 

And if everyone is forced to public, those who currently glitch solo publics and are crying about how unfair or how it will be the end of GTA if they are forced to publics will be in publics, playing peacefully with each other. The chances of a quiet peaceful session will be increased. It's not all negative, wipe the tears from your eyes and you will see the bigger picture.

 

I would try to find public sessions without griefers,but it seem to be almost impossible to do that on PC,lots of people already got everything with modded money so they won't mind their own business since they don't need money anymore,not to mention the risk of finding someone who will drop money bags on you,i can't risk that.It is rare to find an good public session on PC,at least for me.

 

Not sure about Xbox 1,and PS4 since i didn't play in them.

[ScrappyBauer]

 

No it's not wrong playing in peace i'm fine with that, what i'm saying is that mass murdering the entire session until they all quit so i can farm alone is just as valid.

 

It's not necessary wrong to empty a session by a show of force, but it wouldn't be way better to play the full game in an Invite/Crew session and saving all the hassle?

 

But the "hassle" is what some people like.

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

They don't force you to sell in a session with a bunch of trolling assholes. You, if you're stupid enough to do so, choose to sell in that session. If a session has players who are very hostile and trolling across the whole map, why would you sell in that session? Find new session exists, use it. You'll find sessions where every player is just going about their own business and not killing anything that moves, you will find sessions with the PvP players who will attack if you are near but ignore you if you're too much like hard work.

 

We shouldn't have to find a new session in the first place, we should be able to fight back and be able to win in a balanced and fair even field. Sadly the game is very unbalanced and too stacked against the player to make this possible.

 

They should give people the option to play in closed sessions (at a cost).

 

What cost? We already play at a cost (no High Demand bonus, which is reasonable), any lower than the base payment and there will be no point to sell in Invite/Crew lobbies.

 

How does it make anyone greedy by restricting the sales to public? A failure to assess the session is on you, not anyone else.

 

Restricting freedom to the player in a sandbox game, not balancing the game at all and turning the playerbase against itself just to drive Shark Card sales is textbook definition of greedy.

 

Play smart and you can succeed in populated, hostile, public sessions.

 

No matter how smart you play, it only takes a dick in a *insert OP weapon/vehicle of choice* to undo hours of work.

 

And if everyone is forced to public, those who currently glitch solo publics and are crying about how unfair or how it will be the end of GTA if they are forced to publics will be in publics, playing peacefully with each other. The chances of a quiet peaceful session will be increased. It's not all negative, wipe the tears from your eyes and you will see the bigger picture.

 

This already happens, there's peaceful crews already that play peacefully in controlled public sessions. Sadly, if you land in one of our lobbies, you'll be asked to leave and if you don't comply, you'll be kicked. It's a sh*tty move? Certainly, but it's the only way to play in peace.

 

It would be way better if we could play as we wish without having to kick other people.

[Guest]

 

 

You just want to be right. Just say it.

Right about what?

 

Right about the things I've claimed, sure - I wouldn't claim them as fact if they weren't right.

 

Or right about something else? Not entirely sure what else there is to be right or wrong about.

 

Okay okay you're right. You're wrong sometimes geez.

 

How so?

 

Are my opinions wrong? Or do they just differ from yours?

 

Has anything I have claimed been wrong? Or have I fully backed up every last claim when challenged?

 

I'm sure I am wrong sometimes however can't see where in relation to this topic or any other around the same subject.

[REXX]

Think this thread needs a cleanup tbh.

[flexcreator]

I would try to find public sessions without griefers,but it seem to be almost impossible to do that on PC

 

What's your definition of griefer?

What's your strategy to avoid them?

Are you against any PvP?

 

 

 

 

,lots of people already got everything with modded money

 

These people are extremely bad at the game and don't know how to use their "everything" properly. Just yesterday I've escaped two godmode oppressors while sourcing a car in a cargobob.

 

not to mention the risk of finding someone who will drop money bags on you,i can't risk that.

 

This risk is close to zero, since the moneybag have a radious in most modern mod menus. They can't remotely inject money anymore.

 

It is rare to find an good public session on PC,at least for me.

 

 

Tripplecheck that your crew is not IGN or any other "popular" crews. Even if the crewmember is not attacking you, they may have friends who do. Friends will have crewmembers and so on.