Why Hasn't Benny's Gotten Used More?

[Schroebedroeber]

It would be cool if we could upgrade the most trivial cars in Bennys so they would become better and more competitive cars (at least for freeroam). The first I can think of are the Sentinel and the Bullet. Maybe the Surfer?

A BF Surfer Pfister special?

[oleg_aka_djmeg]

 

There's only like 2 Benny's vehicles that perform better after the custom upgrade. It is literally all over the internet.

Oh and everything on the internet must be true then, right?

 

According to Broughy1322's testing:

 

FCR1000 Custom is faster than the FCR1000.

Diabolus Custom is faster than the Diabolus.

Sabre Turbo Custom is faster than the Sabre Turbo > same with all lowriders.

Slamvan Custom is faster than the Slamvan.

Specter Custom is faster than the Specter (since Gunrunning).

Itali GTB Custom is faster than the Itali GTB Custom (since Gunrunning).

Nero Custom is faster than the Nero.

 

So which ones haven't been covered?

 

EDIT:

 

So which ones haven't been covered?

So maybe people got it wrong and what they meant to say is, it's 2 vehicles that DON'T benefit from the upgrade... they would be the Elegy Retro Custom and the Comet Retro Custom.

 

this is technically correct but really there are only 2 benny's cars that actually get some real performance boost from upgrading them and those are sabre and slamvan.

 

i need manana, emperor and peyote custom.

Edited August 21, 2017 by oleg_aka_djmeg

[brose_sfr]

am I the only one that wants more lowriders?

 

#RIPBenny

[Darekl92]

Seems like R* totaaaaaaally forgot Benny. Specially with following vehicles:

 

Tampa > Drift Tampa

Hakuchou > Drag

Daemon > Custom

Blazer > Street Blazer

Tornado > Rat Rod

 

It would make a lot more sense to have these as upgrades, not standalone vehicles on standalone pages. Right now it is so random, some vehicles have upgrades to Benny version and some not, even bikes got it.

 

Tampa could have 2 versions, Drift at benny and Weaponised at MOC, why they made these 2 as separate items is just shame.

[Above Omnipotence]

It's gonna be used for the Tuneables update. *whistles*

[Malibu Club]

I like his Asian second cousin who works in my personal garage much better. For one, she isn't fat, mute and on the spectrum. And two, she's all class and knows when it's time to take a damn shower...

I like her X80 Proto.

[Snoopbr]

Well maybe we will get something new at Benny's when "Tuners DLC" come out, but I wouldn't expect new lowriders.

[Arrows to Athens]

In IV, you could acquire the mafia variant, which had a sport mesh grille, rear and front bumper kits, and side skirts - it was also debadged. I wish these mod options were available at Benny's. Give it a 3 mph higher top speed (which would make it on par with the Zion's top speed), better acceleration, and some more traction with a lip spoiler, especially when it's one of the worst performers around a track in its class. Also, give it a two-tone colour.

 

Not my photos:

 

 

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

Maybe we haven't got more Benny's vehicles because R* found out how lucrative they are for dupe glitches?

 

On topic, we need both the Cheetah and the Peyote inside Benny's:

 

Edited November 4, 2017 by Voodoo-Hendrix

[coelacanth72]

R* has a pretty poor track record for following up on new game modes and mechanics. The MOC has only been used for the vigilante since gunrunning, there havent been any new special vehicles, more adversary modes but never any new maps... and so on. At least theyve come back around to Bennys a few times since lowriders, so I wouldnt rule out a few more down the line.

[SkylineGTRFreak]

Since christmas updates have always been kinda... nice when it comes to content, I'm having some hopes for additional benny vehicles.

[M*A*R*I*N*A]

Oracle XS Custom, Sports

 

 

[mrfonzius]

Maybe someone should hint R* that this is another possibility to drain people's bank accounts.

Edited November 5, 2017 by mrgstrings

[Cahill--EFC]

Benny has seemed to have gone quiet these past few months ???

 

Benny's custom garage should be open to ALL vehicle classes..... all 6 garages should be accessible. just keep the features limited, after all we can take Lowriders inside regular custom garages.

 

It might be cool to drive our Warstock vehicles to Bennys, instead of using our MOC.

[Commander S]

To answer the original question: same reason why each business update just layers on more gimmicks, but doesn't evolve the format. Same reason why yachts are barely more than a fancy, ridiculously-expensive apartment, and haven never had any meaningful expansion in terms of what they can do.

I.e., R*'s post-Heists strategy for everything other than gimmick vehicles and stunt races seems to be one of 'fire and forget'. Come up with something, throw it out into the game, then move on to the next thing. We got a string of Benny's stuff in late 2015/early 2016, then R* shoved a random assortment of dubiously-appropriate vehicles in with Import/Export, and then nothing for another year. Oh, and they also rendered Benny's almost completely redundant, by letting office garages function in the same way.

Considering how much customisation now gets 'baked in' with things like the Rapid GT Classic, I get the impression that their next phase in this 'experiment' is to just cut Benny's out of the process entirely. They could have done the odd vehicle or two with every larger update, just to fill out the roster, and keep the place feeling like a relevant part of the game world, but apparently not... Guess we'll see if the end-of-year update does anything to turn that around.

[GTA-Biker]

I'd like a Tuners update,which would allow us to customize cars like Futo, Blista Compact, Penumbra, Prairie, and unarmored Kuruma into some F&F style cars at Benny's (like we can do with Sultan and Elegy).

Part 3 of Lowriders would also be cool,I'd like to turn my Peyote, Manana, Emperor and Virgo into lowriders.

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

I'd like a Tuners update,which would allow us to customize cars like Futo, Blista Compact, Penumbra, Prairie, and unarmored Kuruma into some F&F style cars at Benny's (like we can do with Sultan and Elegy).

Part 3 of Lowriders would also be cool,I'd like to turn my Peyote, Manana, Emperor and Virgo into lowriders.

I'm afraid that if a Tuning update comes up, R* will pull a "MOC required" again and make us buy yet another business just to be able to modify them, even when both Benny's and the Office Mod Shop are already a thing.

[Jacobmaate]

Bennys does go out of business, that's why his shop isn't in single player. But....his shop is in multiplayer, and multiplayer is confirmed to take place in 2017. So either our characters story isn't real or gta5 isn't cannon or our character is real but is in a simulation that is simulating multiple threats to the gov't and the govt is actually looking for ways to combat national security on U.S soil.

 

Illuminati.

The catch is it's not actually in chronological order, Online should in fact (and was for some time), based prior to Story, not exactly sure if there is any exact time frame but the evidence is there, for instance:

GTAO Gang Attacks: (The Lost MC occupy Sandy Shores Airfield) - In story, The Lost MC occupy S.S.A. before Trever overruns it.

GTAV Protagonists in Online: (Only Trevor, not Franklin or Michael) - In story, (at the beginning of modern day, after the prologue), Trevor is the only person still out there committing crimes, Micheal is 'retired' and Franklin is pretty much a no-one in the Criminal Underworld of L.S.

Heists: (Lester implies that the Union Depository can't be hit) - Admittedly I don't remember exactly when this takes place, but he does imply that the U.D. can't be hit, and therefore GTAO must have taken place before Story (as in the end they raid the U.D.)

FIB Building: (At the end of the game, the FIB building still has damage to it) - Could be that GTAO takes place much later, but would make more sense if it was because it hadn't been damaged in the first place, as a result on the Raid at the Bureau.

Lester in GTAV: (He mentions your GTAO Characters) - When Lester and Micheal discuss the job on the jewelry store, he mentions that he knew someone, but they were "too unpredictable", and it's been widely accepted that he was referring to our GTAO Characters, which would make sense, and yet again would prove that the events of GTAO took place prior to the events of GTAV.

 

Agent 47 claiming that "it's 2017", really f*cks up what R* clearly laid out before. I'd imagine it was just a script error, but anyhow, the vast majority of evidence would support the fact O came before V. Then again, this mention of the year is the only reference I'm aware of. So if we do go by the majority of evidence, it would mean that GTAO took place in early 2013, if not before, with GTAV taking place (according to some in-game calendars) in August 2013 if I remember rightly, and of course V was released in September 2013, so about that time frame.

 

Though I must say, your explanation: "or our character is real but is in a simulation that is simulating multiple threats to the gov't and the govt is actually looking for ways to combat national security on U.S soil.

Illuminati.", is an interesting one.

 

Anyway, back to the topic, I'd love to see more vehicles upgradable at Benny's they added it, and then basically left it to rot soon after. Very pricey there, but with a number of vehicles we have, it'd be nice to customise them more. I sometimes feel that there's a lack of customisation options or GTAO, though when you think about it, there really is a lot. Just how I feel. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Edited November 5, 2017 by SA's Most Wanted

[Ryancoke66]

Seems like R* totaaaaaaally forgot Benny. Specially with following vehicles:

 

Tampa > Drift Tampa

Hakuchou > Drag

Daemon > Custom

Blazer > Street Blazer

Tornado > Rat Rod

 

It would make a lot more sense to have these as upgrades, not standalone vehicles on standalone pages. Right now it is so random, some vehicles have upgrades to Benny version and some not, even bikes got it.

 

Tampa could have 2 versions, Drift at benny and Weaponised at MOC, why they made these 2 as separate items is just shame.

This is so true...

[Arrows to Athens]

I'd like a Tuners update,which would allow us to customize cars like Futo

Now I would love a Futo hatchback. Make it fast in a straight line (1 or 2 mph slower than the Futo, since the Futo already has a really high top speed), have better acceleration than the Futo, and better traction. Exhaust note similar to the Futo, but more louder and aggressive.

 

Edited November 5, 2017 by Arrows to Athens

[Commander S]

 

I'd like a Tuners update,which would allow us to customize cars like Futo, Blista Compact, Penumbra, Prairie, and unarmored Kuruma into some F&F style cars at Benny's (like we can do with Sultan and Elegy).

Part 3 of Lowriders would also be cool,I'd like to turn my Peyote, Manana, Emperor and Virgo into lowriders.

I'm afraid that if a Tuning update comes up, R* will pull a "MOC required" again and make us buy yet another business just to be able to modify them, even when both Benny's and the Office Mod Shop are already a thing.

 

Heh - that's the one time I'd actually be a hypocrite, and be totally fine with that. Car-based business, complete with unique mod shop? That'd at least be a business I'd want to own...

 

But in general, I can't stand things like the vehicle warehouses, hangars, MOC workshop, or anything else that locks you out of stuff unless you bite the bullet and get them. I wouldn't mind owning things like the Molotok, APC, Wastelander, etc., but because I'd rather snap my disc in half than get suckered into owning an office, bunker or whatever, there's a ridiculous amount of stuff from the last lot of big updates that I'll never be able to have.

[HKM87]

Hot-Rods are all about custom, yet the only one there is the Slamvan custom, which is part of lowriders

[delorianlazarus]

He is a bit like Pegasus, he got forgotten.

The missions being forced to 2 or 4 players doesn't help its popularity.

 

If another car DLC drops, maybe...

[DaveyGravy]

Yeah I was hoping Benny's would make a lot more of the base game cars competitive. Don't get me wrong the Elegy and Comet are fantastic cars when souped up, but so many cars in the game are useless. Even if you don't want to race, you still need a fast car either to run from players/cops or to get to destinations during heists/missions.

 

I just bought the car which looks like the Merc but has the double headlight. This is my 5th character and he's only at level 93 so not unlocked the turbo, but even with the rest of the upgrades the car is just slooooow. I was really looking forward to the car which looks like the MKII Escort, but again it lacks decent top speed. Even my Coquette which is upgraded all but the turbo gets pasted by even the Kuruma. Only time I outrun people is because I know how to turn corners.

 

I was also hoping Benny's would bring back the nitro boost back from SA, but sadly they left that out too.

 

So far in the game and its a Benny's car, I'd say the Progen Italia GTB Custom is the best all round car in the game. Once you have that kitted out and have the race skills, you don't need any other super car and can save yourself a fortune.

[Arrows to Athens]

Yeah I was hoping Benny's would make a lot more of the base game cars competitive. Don't get me wrong the Elegy and Comet are fantastic cars when souped up, but so many cars in the game are useless. Even if you don't want to race, you still need a fast car either to run from players/cops or to get to destinations during heists/missions.

 

I just bought the car which looks like the Merc but has the double headlight. This is my 5th character and he's only at level 93 so not unlocked the turbo, but even with the rest of the upgrades the car is just slooooow. I was really looking forward to the car which looks like the MKII Escort, but again it lacks decent top speed. Even my Coquette which is upgraded all but the turbo gets pasted by even the Kuruma. Only time I outrun people is because I know how to turn corners.

 

I was also hoping Benny's would bring back the nitro boost back from SA, but sadly they left that out too.

 

So far in the game and its a Benny's car, I'd say the Progen Italia GTB Custom is the best all round car in the game. Once you have that kitted out and have the race skills, you don't need any other super car and can save yourself a fortune.

''I was really looking forward to the car which looks like the MKII Escort, but again it lacks decent top speed.''

 

The Retinue? That has a pretty impressive top speed for what it is. It has a top speed of 116.5 mph, which is as fast as the Torero, and is faster than the Duke O' Death. The reason as to why the cars feel slow in this game is because of the top speed cap. Cars generally have top speeds that are under the 130 mph mark. The Pigalle, for example, is as fast as the Tempesta in a straight line (121.3 mph), which also makes it 0.2 mph slower than the Entity XF (121.5 mph), but many will say it's slow because they won't assume it to be that fast, since it's an old Citroen.

 

Click the link in my signature for all the top speeds.

 

''Even my Coquette which is upgraded all but the turbo gets pasted by even the Kuruma.''

 

The Coquette has a top speed of 119.3 mph, which is as fast as the Jester Racecar and the Futo (surprisingly), while the Kuruma has a top speed of only 112 mph. Either lag is playing a role, or you need to get that turbo installed ASAP.

 

''I'd say the Progen Italia GTB Custom is the best all round car in the game.''

 

The Vagner is still the best all-rounder. The Itali GTB was NEVER the best in its class, neither on tracks or in top speed.

Edited November 6, 2017 by Arrows to Athens

[Forza Harrd]

Best super for the money, for someone under level 100 is still either the Turismo R or the Zentorno. If you can drive good the Elegy RH8 is still REALLY good. Not to mention Akuma. By splitting lanes I used to lose EVERY super car in traffic on my Akuma.

[DaveyGravy]

 

Yeah I was hoping Benny's would make a lot more of the base game cars competitive. Don't get me wrong the Elegy and Comet are fantastic cars when souped up, but so many cars in the game are useless. Even if you don't want to race, you still need a fast car either to run from players/cops or to get to destinations during heists/missions.

 

I just bought the car which looks like the Merc but has the double headlight. This is my 5th character and he's only at level 93 so not unlocked the turbo, but even with the rest of the upgrades the car is just slooooow. I was really looking forward to the car which looks like the MKII Escort, but again it lacks decent top speed. Even my Coquette which is upgraded all but the turbo gets pasted by even the Kuruma. Only time I outrun people is because I know how to turn corners.

 

I was also hoping Benny's would bring back the nitro boost back from SA, but sadly they left that out too.

 

So far in the game and its a Benny's car, I'd say the Progen Italia GTB Custom is the best all round car in the game. Once you have that kitted out and have the race skills, you don't need any other super car and can save yourself a fortune.

''I was really looking forward to the car which looks like the MKII Escort, but again it lacks decent top speed.''

 

The Retinue? That has a pretty impressive top speed for what it is. It has a top speed of 116.5 mph, which is as fast as the Torero, and is faster than the Duke O' Death. The reason as to why the cars feel slow in this game is because of the top speed cap. Cars generally have top speeds that are under the 130 mph mark. The Pigalle, for example, is as fast as the Tempesta in a straight line (121.3 mph), which also makes it 0.2 mph slower than the Entity XF (121.5 mph), but many will say it's slow because they won't assume it to be that fast, since it's an old Citroen.

 

Click the link in my signature for all the top speeds.

 

''Even my Coquette which is upgraded all but the turbo gets pasted by even the Kuruma.''

 

The Coquette has a top speed of 119.3 mph, which is as fast as the Jester Racecar and the Futo (surprisingly), while the Kuruma has a top speed of only 112 mph. Either lag is playing a role, or you need to get that turbo installed ASAP.

 

''I'd say the Progen Italia GTB Custom is the best all round car in the game.''

 

The Vagner is still the best all-rounder. The Itali GTB was NEVER the best in its class, neither on tracks or in top speed.

 

I always assumed the speedo was broken in the game. If you get in an Adder and go straight on the airport, then login to Rockstar Social Club it used to say your top speed reached and in what vehicle. I think mine was the Adder with something like 217mph.

 

Even on the race tracks the speedos are broken. I get the restrictor chip type thing for the city, but again I thought they would have just gone by the old 155MPH vehicle cap like in real life on some import cars.

 

What they should have done was allow each car to gain 10mph per engine upgrade, so even the likes of the Futo would have some speed to them. And its not lag as I too thought this could be the case, so I tried a few cars fully upgraded in single player mode. Both speedos and the actual cars have no real speed in the game which is a shame. But I suppose doing all that dash work could have caused problems.

[delorianlazarus]

Is the speedo really broken?

Iknow on some cars you can make it go crazy without even moving, but the figure it shows seems to connect with speed tests showing numbers through mods.

[Arrows to Athens]

Is the speedo really broken?

Iknow on some cars you can make it go crazy without even moving, but the figure it shows seems to connect with speed tests showing numbers through mods.

The speedometers have always been a crock of sh*t.

[LN Media]

we need cars like this in benny's!

Edited November 14, 2017 by LN Media