Spadge Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) Hey folks, Something about the new car that got negative attention, some people would consider a minor element, but which can be a dealbreaker in regards of flow of gameplay I think. Having played around a lot with car mods I can say from experience that the camera angle on a car can be a make or break for the enjoyment of the mod. Affects the immersion, game experience. The camera position & angle on the Ocelot XA-21 is kinda messed up. Here's what I mean. Look at a shot of the closest camera position, set to low angle at speed, Same camera position, now for the T20 The camera angle on the T20 feels more grounded, natural, lower, like plunging into the screen, got depth. In comparison the XA-21 camera position falls flat. It's way to high up (even if the angle is set to low), too far away. Feels detached from the action, almost like looking at a 2D wallpaper. Not too much in numbers, but enough for me to notice. This is nothing I had to think about, nothing I had to nitpick, I just noticed it day one after buying and it bugs me, camera position is too high, to far away from the actual car. Just can't get immersed when driving this thing, always wish the camera would be lower and a bit closer. Makes me feel like the model scale is messed up too. Whaddoyou think? Greets, Al. Edited August 18, 2017 by Spadge Ladelien, Verbal Soze, Nyamber and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamwithCheese Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Some cars do this and it is annoying. Uh, the Felon Gt cabrio and the Omnis are the first that come to mind. Spadge, Pedinhuh and MrTroubleMaker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLG Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Yeah I agree it just feels odd and it actually stopped me from buying the car. Spadge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phmiller714 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 yep the omnis and injection have this issue. It makes them feel like youre driving an RC car Spadge and Nossirag 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPECTER II Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Same with a lot of planes. The interior of the XA-21 is already annoying with the steering wheel completely covering the speedometer, and the third person is like this? And it's such a good looking car askinnywhitedildo, Nossirag and Spadge 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamwithCheese Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 The sultan rs has a high camera too. And I really like to play with the camera position set to "high" because it gives me a better view of the road, but with these cars it makes me feel disconnected from the car. Spadge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I noticed this immediately when I tested it in creator. Thought it was odd. Spadge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacitusKilgore Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Not too bothered with this really. Car still looks good as ever. Sure it can be fixed pretty easily by R*. Anybody here submit a ticket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTroubleMaker Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) Someone at R* thinks its better for something. The Itali GTB has the normal cam, the Itali GTB Custom has this higher cam. I find it annoying, I like the normal cam better. Edited August 18, 2017 by MrTroubleMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyamber Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I hate driving cars like this. The only reason I don't own an injection is because the view is just SO far away and so different compared to everything else. This is almost making me want to sell the XA 21. MrTroubleMaker and Spadge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamwes Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Isn't this the truck/large Vehicle cam? I thought the injection had this cam because one of the version had a tall antenna which made it count as a large vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aznknight Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I tried with the Dump and you're totally right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacitusKilgore Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I did notice that the XA21 looked very small, that may either be because of the camera view or just the fact that super/hyper cars a usually a bit smaller than regular cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Not too bothered with this really. Car still looks good as ever. Sure it can be fixed pretty easily by R*. Anybody here submit a ticket? Don't waste your time or get your hopes up. Unless the car is broken to the point where it interrupts its use, they won't fix it. You don't see the Torero with colored interior still do you? MrTroubleMaker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoropael Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Not too bothered with this really. Car still looks good as ever. Sure it can be fixed pretty easily by R*. Anybody here submit a ticket? Don't waste your time or get your hopes up. Unless the car is broken to the point where it interrupts its use, they won't fix it. You don't see the Torero with colored interior still do you? I don't recall them fixing the non-custom Faction crashing into bumps... Spadge, M*A*R*I*N*A and MrTroubleMaker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coelacanth72 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I'm into it actually, I run the high camera anyway. Forza Harrd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUScowboy Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 You assholes... now that you pointed out can't UNSEE it lol! Spadge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_CP_ Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 It's because of the collisions inside vehicle, one of the extras is relatively high, so camera position is raised. Forza Harrd and Spadge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverRST Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) And the sad thing: this collision bug has been there since GTA SA. Yes, when I created carmods back in 2008 or so and I accidentally messed up with the collision, the camera was high too, higher than the XA-21. However, from my experiences it could be because of how the doors opens. Happens exactly what I tried and when I placed the doordummies somewhere else, the carmod got its normal camera back. With these in minds, it's very unlikely R* wil fix it, especially when they still haven't fixed the Torero paintable interior. And beside, fixing in R* their eyes means removing, not actual fixing. Edited August 21, 2017 by SilverRST Forza Harrd and Spadge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forza Harrd Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I'm into it actually, I run the high camera anyway. I do that manually when I'm driving really fast (like on the freeway or on a long downhill straight on a stunt track). Maybe this is why I love driving my XA-21 so much (plus it actually is pretty quick and sounds awesome lol). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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