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Idea: easy solution to PvP suicide turds.


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Smooth Longsack

I personally don't think that most of them care about K/D. I think it's just that little bubble of time they're in that they're thinking about, and as long as they're "up on you" then they're happy. (Snip)

This is all i care about. I MUST be up. The kd is almost an unfortunate side effect. A high kd will attract try-hards, rebreathers and griefers like flies to sugar water. But that's ok too, i reckon. The player interactions are my favorite part of the game. PVE ain't my thing. I get excited when i see someone approaching with noob tactics and i get tense when someone knows how to kill me.

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No Use For A Name

A huge banner that flashes across the screen: B*TCH ALERT! Xx_trYhARd-xX has taken the Easy Way Out

 

That would work wonders. Public shaming is a beautiful thing

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I personally don't think that most of them care about K/D. I think it's just that little bubble of time they're in that they're thinking about, and as long as they're "up on you" then they're happy. (Snip)

This is all i care about. I MUST be up. The kd is almost an unfortunate side effect. A high kd will attract try-hards, rebreathers and griefers like flies to sugar water. But that's ok too, i reckon. The player interactions are my favorite part of the game. PVE ain't my thing. I get excited when i see someone approaching with noob tactics and i get tense when someone knows how to kill me.

This is when a game of gta chess unfolds the battle of wits is on :D unless its a lllllllllll- player then its best too get them first

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|v get them first v|

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BST+heavy sniper. No mid-fight ewo´s since you blast them oneshot. Where is the problem?

Gotta agree with this.

 

It isn't often that I use BST. But when I do, it is because of this. Not a whole lot of a big deal anyway since encounters barely even last longer than 10 minutes before either party gets bored and leave.

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They should just charge $50,000 - $100,000 to commit suicide in deathmatches/game modes only.

Enabling Rockstar to milk you for more money. Seems smart.

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Lmao!!!! Hahahahahahaha!!! He actually monkey rolled off the ledge!

 

 

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Sometimes they suicide when spawned in open place in front of you, can perform that like 10x in a row, until spawned somewhere safe.

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We Are Ninja

 

Make committing suicide lower your KDR.

/thread

 

This is something that should have been implmented at launch. Still doing it even with a 0.00KD/R? Easy, -5000k everytime.

 

This. I can't stand fighting some tryhard dancing around C4. On the flip side, there's NOTHING better than stealing a kill from a suicider. When that sticky goes off AFTER you put them down? Feelz gud man.

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I don't see what the problem is. If you think it's unfair that they suicide then just suicide yourself. Isn't that the simple solution? I must admit to killing myself too. Not because I want my health reset but just to get rid of the damn cops. If you weren't able to suicide and you had to go back into battle with reduced health and the cops shooting at you. To me that just seem like catchup in racing where the person leading is then put at a disadvantage. It's not broken and doesn't need fixing.

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BST+heavy sniper. No mid-fight ewo´s since you blast them oneshot. Where is the problem?

This is the only time I'll ever accept BST as fair, unless they're using it first of course. If you're gonna be a little bitch with me and blow yourself up mid fight, I'm gonna do something about it. The second I see them register as CEO (if they're not already), I'm starting a sightseer so they can't use BST either. That's when they usually teleport to their apartment/passive and send me messages. Pathetic.

 

What if they BST as well?

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BST+heavy sniper. No mid-fight ewo´s since you blast them oneshot. Where is the problem?

This is the only time I'll ever accept BST as fair, unless they're using it first of course. If you're gonna be a little bitch with me and blow yourself up mid fight, I'm gonna do something about it. The second I see them register as CEO (if they're not already), I'm starting a sightseer so they can't use BST either. That's when they usually teleport to their apartment/passive and send me messages. Pathetic.

 

What if they BST as well?

 

 

 

Doesn't happen too often because, well, let's face it. Not everyone's gonna go through their menu to BST, armour and then put a sticky on the group. [Order doesn't matter.]

Just kill/die and move on. There's a threshold of where I find things to get quite ridiculous. And that is pretty much it.

Sort of like in Dark Souls. Buff yourself, your weapon, consume consumables, cast your spells and THEN go to fight.

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If you think it's unfair that they suicide then just suicide yourself.

It's annoying and I absolutely don't want to participate this suicide challange lol. PvP should be about surviving and killing enemies, not yourself. But this BS kinda force you too, and that's the another problem.

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Why do all of that when you can make a suicide wimp's experience even worse? I think some nerfs given to a player that commits suicide upon taking player damage should result in these effects:

-Only half health is given upon respawning, and it only stays at half until several minutes later. If you survive that long that is...
-Damage output is reduced from all weapons fired.
-Increased recoil/reduced accuracy.
-Reduced movement speed(Running and Strafing)
-Inability to use explosive weapons and inability to choose the Easy Way Out

--These effects last until 2 minutes have passed without choosing the Easy Way Out after taking player damage--

That's a harsh punishment for them since they're far more vulnerable against other players due to their fragile bodies, worsened aim, slower movement and forced confiscation of explosive weaponry, which prevents another way to commit suicide.

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On PC there's no problem to do suicide/BST spawn, because they're using macros. Just press 1 button and program will do it for you, saving the annoyance of going through sections in interaction menus, I know because i've seen people admitting of doing so.

 

But my point is, that if Rockstar wanted, they would do it long time ago. They keep a look out for money glitches, but they're completely ignoring the rest of the game. I mean, heist music still f*cked up, just like the rest of the game. Savage armor not buffed, and light opressor still flying in the sessions.

 

Game is broken, and people just abuse stuff because it's allowed to be abused.

 

f*ck I'd wish they treat their child with a respect, but no, every patch that potentially can fix something, gets released once or twice in the year, it's not enough for such popular title that have their biggest player count since release in July 2017

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If you think it's unfair that they suicide then just suicide yourself.

It's annoying and I absolutely don't want to participate this suicide challange lol. PvP should be about surviving and killing enemies, not yourself. But this BS kinda force you too, and that's the another problem.

 

 

No-one forces you to do anything. You choose to involve yourself. How many people in this thread have said they just don't fight people like that?

 

We get that they think you're a pussy if you don't fight them, but you not having the balls to let some other player think they've somehow beaten you is your problem. Get over that and this issue is resolved.

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Just take away K/D ratio from the stats list. I know one thing, it will keep me from padding my K/D ratio. I don't know what it is but I always wanted to see how far I can get that number to go. Meh, consider it a hobby. But some of these suggestions are funny as hell. The amount of people getting stressed over pvp in a game is enjoyable to see.

 

I mean there is also passive and invite-only/crew-only sessions.

 

YES, I AM ONE OF THOSE PVP TURDS. I really don't care how you take it. I don't provide lube so you might want to bring some.

What's it like taking an unbalanced mess of a game as seriously as you do?

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I don't see what the problem is. If you think it's unfair that they suicide then just suicide yourself. Isn't that the simple solution? I must admit to killing myself too. Not because I want my health reset but just to get rid of the damn cops. If you weren't able to suicide and you had to go back into battle with reduced health and the cops shooting at you. To me that just seem like catchup in racing where the person leading is then put at a disadvantage. It's not broken and doesn't need fixing.

 

Cops are there to force the players to keep moving and bring a more of a realistic vibe to free roam pvp. As long as you don't kill a cop you'll stay at 2 stars.. If you keep moving they won't get you. But what ever.. Players who kill them selves sometimes is not usually an issue.

 

Theres a different kind of player that most players bring up when they talk about Suicide Drama Queens. And they are relentless when it comes to suicide.. Cops or not.

 

 

Players who constantly kill themselves while they attack players are usually pretty decent at pvp but, they are pussies. And try and force players into ONE shot battles and then kill themselves if they fail at the ONE shot. And will do this non stop.. Looking for the game to give them a great spawn point, a few easy kills and then kill themselves even more. Doing the same thing back to them is beyond boring and pretty retarded because its not needed.

 

I've had a one of these players attack me and my freinds/crew a few weeks ago. Cheap shot killed us all when we where just chillin at the Maze Bank Front Lobby entrance. So we all went after him.. This guy killed himself so much that by the time it was done, what started at Maze Bank ended by Trevors House before he went passive. I've never ever seen anyone kill themselves that much in my life. He traveled half way across the map when respawned from killing himself.

 

 

The real counter to these idiots is not to sink to their level. But to embrace and enjoy their suicides and laugh at it.. Or get away from them or go passive.

 

They want you to TRY harder.. Because they know the suicides make players become more aggressive and attack them at a faster pace. Because they only give them a small window to attack before killing them selves. Which makes it easier for them to kill players

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CarcerCityMadMan

Sometimes they suicide when spawned in open place in front of you, can perform that like 10x in a row, until spawned somewhere safe.

Idk if this was said but a 3 to 5 min cooldown is all that needs to be done.Problem solved

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Arrows to Athens

 

 

 

BST+heavy sniper. No mid-fight ewo´s since you blast them oneshot. Where is the problem?

This is the only time I'll ever accept BST as fair, unless they're using it first of course. If you're gonna be a little bitch with me and blow yourself up mid fight, I'm gonna do something about it. The second I see them register as CEO (if they're not already), I'm starting a sightseer so they can't use BST either. That's when they usually teleport to their apartment/passive and send me messages. Pathetic.

 

What if they BST as well?

 

Doesn't happen too often because, well, let's face it. Not everyone's gonna go through their menu to BST, armour and then put a sticky on the group. [Order doesn't matter.]

Just kill/die and move on. There's a threshold of where I find things to get quite ridiculous. And that is pretty much it.

Sort of like in Dark Souls. Buff yourself, your weapon, consume consumables, cast your spells and THEN go to fight.

 

Actually, it does. You can literally spam BST, and as long as you know where the BST is located on the menu, you can spawn it within 5 seconds. Also, I never mentioned armour or stickies.

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I hate how suicide is a thing in GTA V. Just like Passive mode. Sure a sweet thought but so very misused.

 

GTA IV had options for further apart spawn distance. The player killed would lose his guns. He go collect some new guns while the surviving player lost the cops and ran for healthpack or armour. When they meet again it felt like a fresh fight. So simple yet much more immersive felling IMO.

 

Rockstar made a big mistake when they choose to make suicide "Easy Way Out" instead of "Last Way Out".

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I hate how suicide is a thing in GTA V. Just like Passive mode. Sure a sweet thought but so very misused.

 

GTA IV had options for further apart spawn distance. The player killed would lose his guns. He go collect some new guns while the surviving player lost the cops and ran for healthpack or armour. When they meet again it felt like a fresh fight. So simple yet much more immersive felling IMO.

 

Rockstar made a big mistake when they choose to make suicide "Easy Way Out" instead of "Last Way Out".

I still don't know why they scrapped the whole lobby settings thing - it worked perfectly in IV. I'd rather them remove passive mode and implement friendly lobbies instead for those who don't want to engage in PvP. Also, the ability to turn off retarded traffic and annoying ass cops would be great.

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Happy Hunter

I like when I can just sit back lol.

 

 

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The Wandering Hunter

-0.01 k/d per suicide

Problem solved

 

 

 

 

Whenever you kill someone, it should start a short timer, when any of your suicide counts as a frag to the player you killed last. One to two minutes is optimal. So competitive PvP will no longer be a suicide fest, players gonna have to fight for their lives till the end.

If you like the idea, spread it around and make sure RS will hear it.

 

id prefer like 10-20 seconds

i use it a lot just because of cops

then use an exlosive, easy way out is meant to get out of places easily if you get stuck.eh?

 

people use that in pvp way more than actual easy way out since there's an animation

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Suicide after low health and cops on you is ok, suicide after every single kill is bitchy.

Thats dumb,

 

So I get shot by you

Is it ok to ewo??

But after I kill you it's not?

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Pragmatic stance:

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PS: just to show how easy it is to parameter the instaEWO, just tested it, FPV/Heavy Sniper/9mm suicide... I don't even play with macros on GTA, not even for heists(macros for snacks/bullet proof vest).

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